Child support goes from $276 to $660 after job loss

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A slumping economy affects our lives in many ways And this week's question comes from someone who says he's doing his best to stay out of jail and support his kids.

Marshall Coe of Monticello wants to know what happens to your child support payments when you lose your job because of the economy.

Marshall's not alone in this situation. Forty-two percent of parents who pay child support are behind on their payments according to the Office of Child Support Services. Not all because of the economy, but the office says its something they're seeing more of.

Coe spends 50 hours a week looking and applying for jobs. He worked for the same civil engineering and surveying company for 12 years, until February when they laid him off.

"Our company was around 25 or 26 employees, but now I think it's downsized to maybe seven or eight employees," he said.

Coe's wife filed for divorce two years ago. Their 18-year-old son lives with him and she has their 15-year-old daughter.

"My children are my reason for breathing and living. They're the love of my life," he said.

He says he's struggling to pay child support for his daughter. He lives off unemployment while he searches for work, that's $320 a week. He says he always paid the $276 a month he and his wife agreed upon. But at a hearing after he lost his job, a judge ordered him to pay based on what he's capable of making. Now he owes $660 a month.

"I'm not trying to walk out on my kids or neglect them or anything of that nature... I just want it to be fair," Coe explained.

Kristi Stone works for the Office of Child Support Services. She says she's familiar with Coe's dilemma.

"There are a lot of people out there that are losing their job due to the economy," she said.

She says Child Support Services calculates the amount of child support someone should pay and gives the paperwork to the judge, but he can order whatever amount he sees fit.

Coe has sold most of his furniture and kitchen appliances to continue paying what child support he can. He heats his home with wood from a friend and hopes he can avoid jail, until he finds a job that pays.

Coe says he's exhausted every angle to try to get change in his case, with no luck. But Kristi Stone says there are several things you can do if you're in a similar situation.

She says communication is key. Keep in touch with the Office of Child Support and let them know any time you lose your job or change jobs.

If you're having trouble finding a decent paying job, you can enroll in the office's Fatherhood program. They can help you get a GED, learn skills, and place you in a job. Since 1998, they've helped 16,000 participants get jobs.

If you'd like to change your child support payments, you can request a review and modification by the Child Support Office. They could adjust what they suggest you pay, but ultimately a judge decides.

Stone says if you're frustrated and have questions, don't hesitate to call your Child Support Office. She says the worst thing someone can do is stop communicating and fall off the radar.

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http://www.13wmaz.com/article/20081127/FEATURES/81127013
 
JUst fuckin criminal....beat you down to nothing....at least he got his son and 3-4 years on his girl.

Some folks got 15 years left on CP.
 
Its dumb shit like this that causes men to say fuck getting married

This shit, among other things are causing marriage rates to keep dropping

How is he going to pay double when he has no job, what are you going to do, throw him in jail, then he pays nothing

Retards:smh:
 
Just met with "Father's Rights" attorney Jeffrey Leving and two Illinois Child Support representatives at a "Father's Rights" seminar;

Child support will collect NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE, forever [from your retirement pension, if needed].

Child support enforces whatever the judge orders, only changes its actions based on judge's orders. There are programs to aid dads in abating child support based on income loss [due to incarceration or long term loss of income], but the proof of this need is on dad. No detail given on whether dad needs to use the court for this proof [good bet he does].

Not talking to Child Support can lead you to jail, after you loose your license, have your credit destroyed, wages garnished, taxes taken to pay whatever Child Support reports as your arrears.

Heard stories of brothers coming out of prison owing TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars, one personal friend reports arrears accrued $48000 during his prison stay.

Only things in life to count on: death, taxes and child support?
 
Uh, she must be receiving or had received state assistance because the courts won't step in at all if both parties agree to an amount UNLESS the state is owed money.
 
i have to pay 1200 a month they take it out my check,300 a week ,my exwife say its not here doin,but see is the lazy one that got on welfare when we broke up,now see dont even get half of that money a month and my kids still need things,welfare took my tax checks this year and my rebate check . my kids still ask me to by every thing they need or want ,i cant do it all .i tell my kids that i dont have the money ask your mother and they say you no welfare takes the money and give her mybe 80 a week ,but thats not my fault,i told her when we broke up that i would give her 200 a week for the kids ,and she still went behind my back and got on welfare.now am between jobs and the payments are backin up,i can bearly take care of my self and beside the three kids i have by her i have 2 others,but they mother has a job and take what i give her because she no`s that when i got i give with no questions asked. as a man i say take care of your kids, but if i cant take care of myself how can i take care of them?if i had to do all over again i would still have my kids,they are the light of my life.
 
i have to pay 1200 a month they take it out my check,300 a week ,my exwife say its not here doin,but see is the lazy one that got on welfare when we broke up,now see dont even get half of that money a month and my kids still need things,welfare took my tax checks this year and my rebate check . my kids still ask me to by every thing they need or want ,i cant do it all .i tell my kids that i dont have the money ask your mother and they say you no welfare takes the money and give her mybe 80 a week ,but thats not my fault,i told her when we broke up that i would give her 200 a week for the kids ,and she still went behind my back and got on welfare.now am between jobs and the payments are backin up,i can bearly take care of my self and beside the three kids i have by her i have 2 others,but they mother has a job and take what i give her because she no`s that when i got i give with no questions asked. as a man i say take care of your kids, but if i cant take care of myself how can i take care of them?if i had to do all over again i would still have my kids,they are the light of my life.

Would do it all again huh ? :hmm:

Dudes like you kill me. If I could do it all again, I would get vasectomy. Fuck a bitch. And thanks to the courts, fuck a kid too.

Since when do parents get more broke and the kids still get the same shit ?? That's like me having asked my pops for more money because he got a raise.
 
i have to pay 1200 a month they take it out my check,300 a week ,my exwife say its not here doin,but see is the lazy one that got on welfare when we broke up,now see dont even get half of that money a month and my kids still need things,welfare took my tax checks this year and my rebate check . my kids still ask me to by every thing they need or want ,i cant do it all .i tell my kids that i dont have the money ask your mother and they say you no welfare takes the money and give her mybe 80 a week ,but thats not my fault,i told her when we broke up that i would give her 200 a week for the kids ,and she still went behind my back and got on welfare.now am between jobs and the payments are backin up,i can bearly take care of my self and beside the three kids i have by her i have 2 others,but they mother has a job and take what i give her because she no`s that when i got i give with no questions asked. as a man i say take care of your kids, but if i cant take care of myself how can i take care of them?if i had to do all over again i would still have my kids,they are the light of my life.

i went thru the same shit:smh:. co sign +1 ( just how can you support your kids if you cant support your self, if you fail they fail:smh::angry:, but some of these stupid phuck dames out there dont see that:angry: and the state sees you as a endless bank account they can bank on:smh::smh:.child support is a sick vicious system set up to make a honest dad that takes care of there kids fail $$$$$ wise:angry::smh::angry::smh::smh:.the state gets paid off of pimping your kids:smh::angry:...:smh::angry:think about it and look at the shit they do)) but word is bond god i feel 1000%. its some unfair:(:(:smh::smh: shit and then some people of power wonder why some dads go off the ledge and be like phuck it..... i know the feelin son:smh::angry::smh::(
 
i had the same exact shit happen to me in 06 to 07. like i said before.child support is a sick vicious system to make a honest loving dad fail $$$ wise. they base what they take on money you dont ever see. which is not right off the break.
 
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The 13th Ammendment outlawed Slavery, as well as something called Indentured Servrvants which is defined as a person who is bound to work for another for a specified period of time, esp. such a person who came to America during the colonial period. Enforcing child support based on potential income fall under that catagory. If this person fights the right battle in court the judge will back peddle.
 
Its dumb shit like this that causes men to say fuck getting married

This shit, among other things are causing marriage rates to keep dropping

How is he going to pay double when he has no job, what are you going to do, throw him in jail, then he pays nothing

Retards:smh:

If I recall, marriage aint got shit to do with it...All I can say is strap up and watch who you fuck...........also, a weird thing about the recession is, less people are getting divorced and tryna make shit work......I guess thats good and bad depending how u look at it
 
Its dumb shit like this that causes men to say fuck getting married

This shit, among other things are causing marriage rates to keep dropping

How is he going to pay double when he has no job, what are you going to do, throw him in jail, then he pays nothing

Retards:smh:

:yes:
 
i have to pay 1200 a month they take it out my check,300 a week ,my exwife say its not here doin,but see is the lazy one that got on welfare when we broke up,now see dont even get half of that money a month and my kids still need things,welfare took my tax checks this year and my rebate check . my kids still ask me to by every thing they need or want ,i cant do it all .i tell my kids that i dont have the money ask your mother and they say you no welfare takes the money and give her mybe 80 a week ,but thats not my fault,i told her when we broke up that i would give her 200 a week for the kids ,and she still went behind my back and got on welfare.now am between jobs and the payments are backin up,i can bearly take care of my self and beside the three kids i have by her i have 2 others,but they mother has a job and take what i give her because she no`s that when i got i give with no questions asked. as a man i say take care of your kids, but if i cant take care of myself how can i take care of them?if i had to do all over again i would still have my kids,they are the light of my life.

damn nigga, stop fucking
 
If I recall, marriage aint got shit to do with it...All I can say is strap up and watch who you fuck...........also, a weird thing about the recession is, less people are getting divorced and tryna make shit work......I guess thats good and bad depending how u look at it

When you have the family courts fucking shit so badly, yeah, it do

Its well known how unfair the family courts are to most well informed men, so bad, they are refusing to get married, have kids, or just get a women from another country and build a family from there

Texas last year collected 2 billion.......and thats with a B, in child support, and most of that came from low income men, men working menial jobs, unmarried and such

Informed men are wising up to the scam, and have been for a long time

How are you going to pay $300 for child support, but the woman gets only $80?

The state is the pimp, the woman is the ho, and the, whose paying is the john, and women just keep falling for the prostitute role, only to get pennies out of it
 
When you have the family courts fucking shit so badly, yeah, it do

Its well known how unfair the family courts are to most well informed men, so bad, they are refusing to get married, have kids, or just get a women from another country and build a family from there

Texas last year collected 2 billion.......and thats with a B, in child support, and most of that came from low income men, men working menial jobs, unmarried and such

Informed men are wising up to the scam, and have been for a long time

How are you going to pay $300 for child support, but the woman gets only $80?

The state is the pimp, the woman is the ho, and the, whose paying is the john, and women just keep falling for the prostitute role, only to get pennies out of it
keep preaching
 
When you have the family courts fucking shit so badly, yeah, it do

Its well known how unfair the family courts are to most well informed men, so bad, they are refusing to get married, have kids, or just get a women from another country and build a family from there

Texas last year collected 2 billion.......and thats with a B, in child support, and most of that came from low income men, men working menial jobs, unmarried and such

Informed men are wising up to the scam, and have been for a long time

How are you going to pay $300 for child support, but the woman gets only $80?

The state is the pimp, the woman is the ho, and the, whose paying is the john, and women just keep falling for the prostitute role, only to get pennies out of it
100 % Co-sign ...... When you are with someone, you take the high with the low. In today's system, women try to take the high and have no compassion when things go down.
:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
that's some crazy shit. i got a partna now that's been laid off & lost his car & his home. dude has been going from one temp job to the next, from one shelter to another. by the time he finds a new gig, he's back on their (child support) radar.
ol' boy gotten so far behind that within a week of employment, sheriffs have came, & locked his ass up, now he's out of a job again. the cycle continues
 
i went thru the same shit:smh:. co sign +1 ( just how can you support your kids if you cant support your self, if you fail they fail:smh::angry:, but some of these stupid phuck dames out there dont see that:angry: and the state sees you as a endless bank account they can bank on:smh::smh:.child support is a sick vicious system set up to make a honest dad that takes care of there kids fail $$$$$ wise:angry::smh::angry::smh::smh:.the state gets paid off of pimping your kids:smh::angry:...:smh::angry:think about it and look at the shit they do)) but word is bond god i feel 1000%. its some unfair:(:(:smh::smh: shit and then some people of power wonder why some dads go off the ledge and be like phuck it..... i know the feelin son:smh::angry::smh::(

Co/sign. Iam paying 600.00 month just got
My hours cut back and the punk ass judge still wants me to pay that much. The system laws was made up by pussy whip men.
 
Just met with "Father's Rights" attorney Jeffrey Leving and two Illinois Child Support representatives at a "Father's Rights" seminar;

Child support will collect NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE, forever [from your retirement pension, if needed].

Child support enforces whatever the judge orders, only changes its actions based on judge's orders. There are programs to aid dads in abating child support based on income loss [due to incarceration or long term loss of income], but the proof of this need is on dad. No detail given on whether dad needs to use the court for this proof [good bet he does].

Not talking to Child Support can lead you to jail, after you loose your license, have your credit destroyed, wages garnished, taxes taken to pay whatever Child Support reports as your arrears.

Heard stories of brothers coming out of prison owing TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars, one personal friend reports arrears accrued $48000 during his prison stay.

Only things in life to count on: death, taxes and child support?

i done sucked the grizzle out of the child support bone. its the BIGGEST scam the courts run. i have helped numerous people, including myself with this situation by exposing the frauds. how all this got started was at the hands of your "honorary negro" bill clinton. in 1996, he signed off on the bradley amendment, which effectively brought back the FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT. the fugitive slave act was a act which enabled the feds or any state to cross borders to get runaway slaves. bradley amendment brought this back under the guise of child support. child support is SLAVERY,because slavery is CONSENSUAL. once you expose that, then it turns into peonage. im not going too deep into it, but lets get back to the bradley amendment. this act made it impossible for judges to forgive any back support under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. it used to be that if you went to jail, got laid off or fired, became a prisoner of war, etc. the judge would forgive that amount, and start over with reasonable payments. not anymore, clinton stopped that shit under the guise of helping families. see, the courts are corporations, that do business with other corporations (child support collection agencies, jails, etc.) they got this act passed so that they can make money off of men being incarcerated and they get a cut out of the collections and the feds made it where the states gets grants for every dollar they collect of child support. has NOTHING to do with children's well being.
 
All this talk makes me think of something someone once said:
(it was said as comedy but it's true going by some of the comments)

"My wife was a beautiful woman before we had children."

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I sometimes think I shoulda married one of those "perfect women" from my past. I see some of them now; most of them got married and are now divorced with a kid or 2. They remind me how much I wanted to have a family and ask why I'm still single. I just say - "I got 99 problems but child support ain't one! Good seeing you, take care."

Oh, one other thing Bill said:
(this applies to me)
"You know the only people who are always sure about the proper way to raise children? Those who've never had any."
 
i have to pay 1200 a month they take it out my check,300 a week ,my exwife say its not here doin,but see is the lazy one that got on welfare when we broke up,now see dont even get half of that money a month and my kids still need things,welfare took my tax checks this year and my rebate check . my kids still ask me to by every thing they need or want ,i cant do it all .i tell my kids that i dont have the money ask your mother and they say you no welfare takes the money and give her mybe 80 a week ,but thats not my fault,i told her when we broke up that i would give her 200 a week for the kids ,and she still went behind my back and got on welfare.now am between jobs and the payments are backin up,i can bearly take care of my self and beside the three kids i have by her i have 2 others,but they mother has a job and take what i give her because she no`s that when i got i give with no questions asked. as a man i say take care of your kids, but if i cant take care of myself how can i take care of them?if i had to do all over again i would still have my kids,they are the light of my life.

WHY ARE EARTH WOULD YOU DO THAT SHIT AGIN???
 
Those stories really suck but having kids you still gotta pay something.....Bottom line is that you cant win
 
Those stories really suck but having kids you still gotta pay something.....Bottom line is that you cant win

I'm sorry Kids are the world but I refuse to accept that defeatist attitude am I suppose to roll over and let the court system financially enslave me..I cant do it
 
For me, child support should be CHILD SUPPORT, not momma support!!
I think a mother who wants LARGE amounts of child supports, (from fathers who earn big money) should be forced to provide receipts showing that ALL that money is going towards th child.
I also, think, that support should be based on the current earnings of the father. I read about ex athletes/celebrities, who are still expected to pay the same amount they had to pay at the peak of their earning power.
That is bullshyt~~~
Furthermore, I don't believe a mother is entitled to a lavish lifestyle, just because she slept with someone who lives a lavish lifestyle. Athletes in particular, work to maintain their bodies to a very high level of performance, in order to earn that lifestyle. Don't tel me, a woman deserves a substantial portion of that money just because she had a baby.

Women claim they want equality, well, if a man doesn't want a child, but the woman goes ahead and have it anyway, he shouldn't have to pay shit!!!
If HE wants a child and she doesn't, he can't make her, have it.
Fair exchange ain't no robbery.

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As this economy gets worse in the US. I see a lot of people leaving the USA altogether. Luckily the courts have me paying the ex directly and we came to an agreement when I was laid off to lower my payments instead of going through the courts again.

I've been keeping all of my receipts though just in case.

Oh yeah If you know that she might be going after you for child support payments figure that shit out before you get to the courts and start paying her (with money orders) before the order. Judges look favorably on that in that you were already doing your job.

And get a lawyer......A damn good one
 
this system is ridiculously fucked up. unfortunately, for all of us fathers, we'll have to pay something. its just an inevitable fact. now as a good father i dont mind having to pay to take care of my children. after all, its not their fault they're in this world and above all else, they're just kids!!

but i think the real question is, what can we do specifically to ensure that we get a fair deal when it comes to child support amounts? yea sure everyone says just get a lawyer or whatever. but that in itself is expensive and then you pretty much leave everything in their hands. i'm about action. i like to be hands on with my problems so i know everything is being done correctly. but like someone else posted earlier, i refuse to just roll over and let the courts and some greedy bitch dictate what the hell i'm going to pay while i go home to some drafty shack and cans of beans and rice as my main staple of life. so gentleman i ask again....what can we do??
 
Child Support don't play! I'm 26 now and my mom never saw one red cent from my dad after they divorced when I was three. After I turned 18 I guess that nigga though he was off the hook but somehow Child Support caught up with his ass and since I was about 24 my Mom's been getting back-pay checks on the regular... about $300, $400 a month lol!

But the case with this dude is just fucked up, my dad is a bumb so fuck him... but here you have a man trying his best to do right by his kids despite his circumstances and the judge still wants to push his foot harder on his neck. There's probably some hard feelings between him and the wife because if she wanted to she could talk the judge into rolling back the payments to their original amount.
 
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