Texas is a state flagship school that's quite possibly worse than A&M, Baylor, Texas Tech, Houston and TCU. How long do you really think a state flagship school that's built around football is going to accept losing? Being in your third year, you should have enough players in your system to field a decent team. The defense has gotten worse every year.
Charlie Strong Fired after 31-9 loss to TCU
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which is why if I'm Herman, I decline that job with the quickness. I'm biased cause I'm UH, but TH would be cutting his career short going to UT or LSU. He's never built anything and the expectations will be his undoing at another school. He has to take over a big school that's hit rock bottom.That' my biggest issue with him. You don't have to win all your games, but your area of expertise shouldn't look clueless against average teams. They look absolutely lost out there on D. Blown assignments, missed tackles, lack of effort...not a good look for a defensive guru.
Their defense is just garbage...there is a difference between losing and being humiliated. You can't give up 50 points every week.
Again... Watching that game I saw a Texas team that doesn't have enough talent. You can call whatever schemes you want, but if they can't beat their man it doesn't matter. As I said, Texas, their boosters, and fans are living in another reality. The squad isn't good, and why go to Austin when you can go live in Houston or DFW and play ball??? No one but Texas fans thinks that job is good, or being a longhorn matters to kids nowadays. Kids were picking Oregon... OREGON!!! For shit like uniforms...
Yeah the defense is terrible. Strong took over the defense and nothing changed
Because the players haven't.
Not being able to win at Texas is not a good endorsement
When in their history has Texas ever been anything better than just... Pretty good...???... They're like Michigan south. Lots of wins, and tradition but that trophy case is kinda bare given how much they're talked about...
Purging a team of players is never a good thing. I think that was one of his biggest mistakes
Yep
I'm a UH alum, but hiring him would be a huge mistake.
How? He's a great coach, great recruiter, knows how to relate to his players, he's learned from one of the best Urban Myer.
Texas didn't win less than 8 games the 3 years before Strong got there. They've never been a perennial 6 win type of program, which is basically what he's given them. It would be different if dude was winning 9/10 games, but he's not.
Todd Herman bout to lose to Navy
What has he proven? He hasn't built anything. Won with Sumlin's recruits. All that hugging & kissing players won't win at UT. The discipline he's added at our school works in the AAC, but a step up...it's a different game P5. Add in those expectations, not the right hire.
Art Briles & Kevin Sumlin lost the game in which they were negotiating with Baylor and A&M, chances are Herman has a deal in place with UT.
Theyve always been very good... Theyre in a down stretch in which theyre around .500. But let's not act like Mack wasn't pulling any and damn near everything to keep winning like they were with Colt. He changed the offense from a spread to a run happy, Bama wannabe type pro offense and didn't have the athletes to do it. That was the start of the decline. Mack went 8-5 his last year and he was basically fired without being fired. No Charlie hasn't brought results, but let's not act like the program went from 1 extreme to the other. It was already slipping when he got there. That's why I think most of its race related. Texas was already down, just not "bad." But every football school goes through it... Looks likes it their turn maybe now they'll get off their high horse and stop throwing their weight around.
I think you're just making excuses for a dude that happens to be black that really hasn't done much of shit since he's been there.A dude that's turned Texas defense into one of the worst units in all of college football. Texas is by far worse now than they were when he got there, there's no point in even bothering trying to argue that point. And, how many players did he kick off the team when he got there? Almost 700 yards of offense today. NO P5 football oriented team is going to be content with that no matter whether you're black, white, purple or blue. Thus far, Texas is 2-3, their wins are over Notre Dame who has 2 wins over Nevada and Syracuse...and UTEP, only win against New Mexico State. If he wins less than 7 games with the past 2 recruiting classes he's had he really doesn't deserve another year.
My thing is why is it whenever schools that have NEVER fired any coach before their contract runs out, the first black coach is also the first coach they break tradition for???.........
Of the 3 games they've lost who are they really better than as if now??? Okie state is always tough, California isnt a scrub team, and OU has had Texas' number going on a fucking decade. I keep saying it, but it doesn't matter. Texas just isn't a good team. Coaching won't change it. Mack left the frige empty but no one wants to admit it. Yeah Charlie deserves blame. But what's there to gain by firing him when the issue is obviously talent, and not coaching.
Of the 3 games they've lost who are they really better than as if now??? Okie state is always tough, California isnt a scrub team, and OU has had Texas' number going on a fucking decade. I keep saying it, but it doesn't matter. Texas just isn't a good team. Coaching won't change it. Mack left the frige empty but no one wants to admit it. Yeah Charlie deserves blame. But what's there to gain by firing him when the issue is obviously talent, and not coaching.
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Him versus Stoops was like a loser leave town match up
I saw that and was thinking, do they really want dude
I saw that and was thinking, do they really want dude
This program has been on a decline since V. Young left.
They've won 2 big12 championships that I can remember in the past 10-15 years.
They're a mediocre team.
They've won 2 big12 championships that I can remember in the past 10-15 years.
They're a mediocre team.
The issue is talent when you've had 2 top 10 recruiting classes? lol...i'd bet every dollar I have that if Peterson with Washington, Saban, Meyer, the coach at Houston...hell even Sumlin had this SAME team this year with this same talent they wouldn't look the way they're looking right now. Does Houston have more talent than Texas? If you say yes, i'll just end this conversation.
2013 recruiting: Texas #20, Houston ##53
2014 recruiting: Texas #20, Houston #70
2015 recruiting: Texas #10, Houston #92
2016 recruiting: Texas #7, Houston #41
Houston record 2016, 5-1
Texas record 2016, 2-3
Common opponent, Oklahoma
Texas - Loss
Houston - Win
Know the difference in these two programs? Herman can coach.
2014 recruiting: Texas #20, Houston #70
2015 recruiting: Texas #10, Houston #92
2016 recruiting: Texas #7, Houston #41
Houston record 2016, 5-1
Texas record 2016, 2-3
Common opponent, Oklahoma
Texas - Loss
Houston - Win
Know the difference in these two programs? Herman can coach.
Herman going to LSU....He took a L today too
You know good and well recruiting ranking don't mean shit. Should Texas be better??? Yes, but wasn't Mack getting tip 5 recruiting classes, better classes than Stoops and not winning too??? It's not an either or situation. Charlie may not be the best coach, but all those good players aren't panning out. You can look at them play and see they're not good, and where they ranked coming out of high school doesn't matter. They look fast... But don't look like good football players.. Add into that maybe Charlie isn't coaching them up and it's not hard to see why they look like they do. But a guy that won at Louisville before Louisville was an up and coming program didn't just forget how to coach.
That kinda proof Texas aint pulling recruits and why the defense is so bad.
2015 & 2016 they just started to crack the Top 10
You dudes are making some pretty shitty excuses to be honest. With those recruits, pre-season Texas was ranked as having the 13th best defense in the country. Virginia Tech, Army, Boston College, Houston, NC State, Kansas State, Washington, Colorado, Baylor, UCLA, Duke, Nebraska, Auburn, Iowa, Utah, Georgia Tech, Minnesota, and plenty of others have a better defense. Do I even really need to point out where any of those teams were in relation to Texas in recruiting the last 3 years? Please cut the bullshit ass excuses, dude's defensive schemes are ass. You don't need a top 10 recruiting class to have a good defense lol
Winning in one conference does not translate to winning in another. You may also want to consider that he only had two seasons at Louisville above 7 wins. You may also want to consider that, the year that they had 11 wins, they were in the AAC, and only played ONE team that whole season that was ranked. They made it to number 9, then were blown out by an unranked ACC team. Then were beaten again by an unranked UConn. The year after, when they won 12 games, they played not one single ranked team, again, AAC games. You do realize that this is his first rodeo being a coach in a P5 conference, right? It's not as if he had some stellar resume, dude had 2 10+ win seasons in a non P5 conference. If you want to see what coaches do, look at Peterson in Washington. Came from the MWC, doesn't have a bunch of fancy recruits and is kicking people to sleep.
I'm a Washington fan I know full well that Pete is a quality coach. But why is Tom Herman a top coach with the same credentials you're shitting on???
Let's face it the Big 12 is full of teams with high powered offenses that run the spread and all these other gimmick schemes that are designed to put points the board. After all Oklahoma game up 40 to Texas too!! No one is saying their Defense sucks because they got the W.
The ironic thing is Charlie appears to have fixed his offense, but the defense hasn't caught up. The Longhorns used to be DBU all the corners and safety's that came out of that school in the 2000's, but either the scheme isn't working or they just don't have the skills on this years squad.
He's has to go 8-4 to save his job. Even then that might not be good enough unless a bowl win is one of the 8
The ironic thing is Charlie appears to have fixed his offense, but the defense hasn't caught up. The Longhorns used to be DBU all the corners and safety's that came out of that school in the 2000's, but either the scheme isn't working or they just don't have the skills on this years squad.
He's has to go 8-4 to save his job. Even then that might not be good enough unless a bowl win is one of the 8
Im just sayin in order for a black football coach to coach a major
college team, is it a prerequisite that he have a white wife???
college team, is it a prerequisite that he have a white wife???
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