Charles Oakley: Ewing "never put us on his back like he should have"
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I agree with Oakley. The knicks had talent but Ewing was never there when we needed him.
Starks 19 was the highest... Houston and spree 17/18 ish
Some of ewing top defensive plays ever
excellent pont
Oakley preceded Dennis Rodman on how to have nba success by diving impossible to save loose balls and tracking down a rebound while being the 6th option on the offensive end.
The legend of Oakley's play is more impressive than the reality of him being a non athletic, non jumping but slow power forward.
The legend of Oakley's play is more impressive than the reality of him being a non athletic, non jumping but slow power forward.
First thing that came to mind was..I think it was Robin Harris's joke about Bird only having a jump shot.
But the funny thing is you're 100% on point.
I still remember Oak with that set shot..I don't think he DID have another go-to move.
No and aint no bigger Oak fan than me.
I hated Charles Smith regardless if Scottie Pippen hacked him and the refs didn’t call the foul.
How many all-star games did those guys play in combined as Knicks?
Glad I’m a Bulls fan
Thanks but your boy @playahaitian is trying to change the subject to lakers bulls in a new thread. You might want to see him bro.
I might not be able to watch this damn documentary fam...
Watch all of em. Give us a report on what winners look like. Even critique the commercials. It has been a minute since I had some pledges.
How can u be critical of anybody when u were a 6'9" PF WITH NO DUNK PACKAGES AND NO LAYUP PACKAGES. FOH
If Patrick Ewing was born in the 80s or 90s instead of the 60s no one would have a problem with Oak's comment and would be praising him for throwing a younger generation under the bus for white folks enjoyment. Oak simply said what we've known for sometime, his era wasnt as "tough" as projected.
Oakley also has more career rebounds than Rodman and his 35 in one game is more than Rodman ever posted in a game. Oak was never a star but he wasnt a bum. He was an enforcer and an effective low post presence.
idk, Oak and Harper and Childs may be dealing in some revisionist history. They never would have gotten where they did without Ewing. And then, if you really feel the guy is unreliable in the big spots, you don't go to him. I can remember Ewing stepping up at times. Remind me again who else stepped up?
I know all about that. We also had Mason and X at one time too.
Rodman performed his rebounding in his role. He could score and did when he was with Detroit. Oak was the man in college but he played with Jordan and became kinda bitter. I didn't like him much when I literally ran into him outside of the garden.
Bottom line, he could've done more to help Ewing instead of now gossiping years later.
Didn’t Larry johnson do a 4 point play to lead y’all into the finals?
Didn’t pat miss a point blank finger roll?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You have to be a truly dumb motherfucker to argue that a player led a team into the finals based on one shot in the middle of a series.
You still mad how they did pat?????
that's that old Georgetown Hoya mentality. hoyas used to mug anybody who came into the paintAw man...fuck you!
But seriously, Patrick always gave it his all every night. I also liked the fact that he challenged every dunk. Yes, he got yammed on a few times, but at least he tried to go for the block. Most guys would be afraid of getting posterized, and they wouldn't even try to play defense.
Oh yeah, and Fuck Oakley for his comments!
The attention tour continues. Nothing but a bitch. Like Canibus to LL, I'm officially an ex-fan.
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Oakley says he still talks to Jordan, his former teammate, about the series. The former Knicks power forward won’t pin it on Smith, who blew all those last-second putbacks in the critical Game 5 heartbreaker, which would have given the Knicks a 3-2 series lead as they tried to keep the Bulls from their first three-peat.
“Patrick, at the end of the game, he’d get double-teamed,’’ Oakley told The Post. “He’d shoot fadeaways on double-teams and that hurt us as a team.”
“My thing with [Jordan] is, ‘It’s not like you beat us by 20,’ ” Oakley added. “Most games went down to two, three possessions. Y’all made shots. We didn’t. The best player won. Michael was a better player than Patrick hands down.”
Ewing averaged 25.8 points and 11.2 rebounds and shot 53 percent in the six-game series — all in line with his regular-season numbers. In the series-turning Game 5, Ewing had 33 points on 12-of-23 shooting and nine rebounds.
In the documentary, Ewing says, “It was extremely physical. It wasn’t really a foul until you drew blood.”
Asked about the remark, Oakley sniffed, “A lot of guys who talk now didn’t say that stuff when they played basketball.’’
Oakley, then in his defensive prime, also believed Phil Jackson outmaneuvered then-Knicks coach Pat Riley.
“Pat Riley never adjusted to the situation,’’ Oakley said. “At halftime we did the same thing. They trapped us full-court. We never did nothing like that to trap them and make them think about the game.
“We didn’t make shots and played into their hands. With defense, they played a zone and built a wall. They knew Patrick wasn’t going to pass out of the double team. Phil watched a lot of film. We watched a lot of film, but we were playing checkers and they were playing chess.”
During the broadcast, it’s mentioned the Knicks were similar in style to “The Bad Boys’’ of Detroit, who used to batter Jordan’s Bulls before they finally broke through.
“Everyone says Detroit was more physical,’’ Oakley said. “I don’t think so. Detroit just played more dirty than us. We didn’t play dirty basketball.’’
Jeff Van Gundy, then a Knicks assistant to Riley, told The Post the 1993 team was the best team he’d ever been part of. The Knicks won 60 games that season and Riley told “Garden Glory” the Knicks had built “a championship team.’’
It’s why Oakley is still frustrated it didn’t go the Knicks’ way.
“We should’ve beaten them and we didn’t beat them,’’ Oakley said. “The Bulls got a lot of calls. I tell that to Michael to this day. The league’s best player will get all the calls when he needed to. But Michael made shots. It wasn’t like he was getting to the rim and dunking on us. He had a couple of dunks. But that was only two dunks he had in the half-court offense.
“I took the ball from Michael in that series and they called a foul and I didn’t even touch him,” Oakley added. “The one thing I didn’t like about Phil’s Bulls is they complained about the officials, about physicality. We were playing hard. If you complained to me, you’re soft.
“Phil Jackson always planted stories in the paper when they lost: ‘Look at the fouls.’ Pat Riley was a psychologist, but Phil was the doctor. They played mind games with one another.”
Jordan’s trek to Atlantic City after a Game 1 Bulls loss turned into a firestorm. But ultimately it motivated Jordan.
“When you’re off, you can do whatever you want to do,’’ Oakley said. “Danny Ainge said [he and Jordan] played golf 36 holes before a playoff game. I never thought he’d do that, but he’s incredible. When things go your way, you can take a chance of doing things. A lot of guys can’t do that. They don’t have that drive. Patrick would never do it like that — because he doesn’t have it inside of him.”
Ewing was fourth in the MVP voting in 1993, but in recent months Oakley has aimed darts at “The Big Fella” as much as feuding partner James Dolan, the Knicks owner. Oakley recently called Ewing “one of the most difficult guys I’ve played with.’’
As for failing to topple the Bulls in 1993, Oakley put it simply in his inimitable way.
“The Bulls had Michael and we had Patrick,’’ Oakley said. “It’s like seeing Beyoncé and going to see someone trying to be Beyoncé. If Beyoncé is in town, everyone’s going to see Beyoncé. If Michael and Patrick are in town, everyone is going to see Michael. They had ‘The Show.’ We tried to stop them and we couldn’t stop them.”
Charles Oakley blames Patrick Ewing for Knicks’ failure to conquer Michael Jordan
Charles Oakley says Patrick Ewing’s inability to step up more in the 1993 playoff war versus the Bulls and Michael Jordan cost the Knicks a trip to The Finals — not Charles Smith. Oakley, the forme…
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Oakley says he still talks to Jordan, his former teammate, about the series. The former Knicks power forward won’t pin it on Smith, who blew all those last-second putbacks in the critical Game 5 heartbreaker, which would have given the Knicks a 3-2 series lead as they tried to keep the Bulls from their first three-peat.
“Patrick, at the end of the game, he’d get double-teamed,’’ Oakley told The Post. “He’d shoot fadeaways on double-teams and that hurt us as a team.”
“My thing with [Jordan] is, ‘It’s not like you beat us by 20,’ ” Oakley added. “Most games went down to two, three possessions. Y’all made shots. We didn’t. The best player won. Michael was a better player than Patrick hands down.”
Ewing averaged 25.8 points and 11.2 rebounds and shot 53 percent in the six-game series — all in line with his regular-season numbers. In the series-turning Game 5, Ewing had 33 points on 12-of-23 shooting and nine rebounds.
In the documentary, Ewing says, “It was extremely physical. It wasn’t really a foul until you drew blood.”
Asked about the remark, Oakley sniffed, “A lot of guys who talk now didn’t say that stuff when they played basketball.’’
Oakley, then in his defensive prime, also believed Phil Jackson outmaneuvered then-Knicks coach Pat Riley.
“Pat Riley never adjusted to the situation,’’ Oakley said. “At halftime we did the same thing. They trapped us full-court. We never did nothing like that to trap them and make them think about the game.
“We didn’t make shots and played into their hands. With defense, they played a zone and built a wall. They knew Patrick wasn’t going to pass out of the double team. Phil watched a lot of film. We watched a lot of film, but we were playing checkers and they were playing chess.”
During the broadcast, it’s mentioned the Knicks were similar in style to “The Bad Boys’’ of Detroit, who used to batter Jordan’s Bulls before they finally broke through.
“Everyone says Detroit was more physical,’’ Oakley said. “I don’t think so. Detroit just played more dirty than us. We didn’t play dirty basketball.’’
Jeff Van Gundy, then a Knicks assistant to Riley, told The Post the 1993 team was the best team he’d ever been part of. The Knicks won 60 games that season and Riley told “Garden Glory” the Knicks had built “a championship team.’’
It’s why Oakley is still frustrated it didn’t go the Knicks’ way.
“We should’ve beaten them and we didn’t beat them,’’ Oakley said. “The Bulls got a lot of calls. I tell that to Michael to this day. The league’s best player will get all the calls when he needed to. But Michael made shots. It wasn’t like he was getting to the rim and dunking on us. He had a couple of dunks. But that was only two dunks he had in the half-court offense.
“I took the ball from Michael in that series and they called a foul and I didn’t even touch him,” Oakley added. “The one thing I didn’t like about Phil’s Bulls is they complained about the officials, about physicality. We were playing hard. If you complained to me, you’re soft.
“Phil Jackson always planted stories in the paper when they lost: ‘Look at the fouls.’ Pat Riley was a psychologist, but Phil was the doctor. They played mind games with one another.”
Jordan’s trek to Atlantic City after a Game 1 Bulls loss turned into a firestorm. But ultimately it motivated Jordan.
“When you’re off, you can do whatever you want to do,’’ Oakley said. “Danny Ainge said [he and Jordan] played golf 36 holes before a playoff game. I never thought he’d do that, but he’s incredible. When things go your way, you can take a chance of doing things. A lot of guys can’t do that. They don’t have that drive. Patrick would never do it like that — because he doesn’t have it inside of him.”
Ewing was fourth in the MVP voting in 1993, but in recent months Oakley has aimed darts at “The Big Fella” as much as feuding partner James Dolan, the Knicks owner. Oakley recently called Ewing “one of the most difficult guys I’ve played with.’’
As for failing to topple the Bulls in 1993, Oakley put it simply in his inimitable way.
“The Bulls had Michael and we had Patrick,’’ Oakley said. “It’s like seeing Beyoncé and going to see someone trying to be Beyoncé. If Beyoncé is in town, everyone’s going to see Beyoncé. If Michael and Patrick are in town, everyone is going to see Michael. They had ‘The Show.’ We tried to stop them and we couldn’t stop them.”
Never even had within ten rebounds of that with the Knicks.
Never had a 30 point game.
Never even had a four block game!
Never averaged a block every other game!
Had a half dozen seasons with the Knicks where he didn't even get double digit rebounds!
This clown has a lot of fucking nerve.
I think it's because Oak didn't feel so angry until this past year.
He's had shit to say about a couple of his old teammates recently. He felt that more of them should've spoken up when Dolan had him thrown out of the Garden. He felt betrayed by all of them, specifically those who still worked or associated with Dolan.
EDIT: I just read PlayaHaitian's post. Sums it up perfectly.
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