Charles Barkley: LeBron James will never be a top-five NBA great

[tallblacknyc]

Stop lying man....

dude i'm not lying..when he has his hissy fits he goes in these moments where you go wtf..i forget what thread it was but he said some shit like when lebron was under 21 he was winning rookie of the yr meanwhile jordan was riding the bench in north carolina.. mad people was like wtf than he went mia out that thread..whenever he goes in on his hissy fits and people call him out on his dumbshit he goes mia.. his new fave thing is jordan would be joe johnson without pippen.. yes he has said jordan had real good 7 footers on his squad.. also kerr and paxon kept bailing him out in his championship.. according to him jordan is a guy that has had a great career cause his supporting cast of nobodies has always saved his ass

 

[Tha Great Muta]

they had cameras and tv's when green punted adams in the dick twice and nothing..lebron points out that he completely disrespects green and steps over him and dat green didn't take that so kindly.. yet green gets suspended for the punch but not the kick

Steven Adams is not LeBron James. Green should have been smart enough to know to ease up. All the Greats get preferential treatment but let's call it the other way. Green gets suspended in the OKC series and OKC is in the Finals. Right?

 

[RoadRage]

ONe thing about me I am both a fan of LeBron and Jordan, really a fan of strong positive black men, so I don't have to tear one down to rate the other up... In my opinion they are both great and their numbers, hardware and wow moments speak for themselves...

 

[tallblacknyc]

Steven Adams is not LeBron James. Green should have been smart enough to know to ease up. All the Greats get preferential treatment but let's call it the other way. Green gets suspended in the OKC series and OKC is in the Finals. Right?

that's who i would prefer.. i wanna see my boy kd get 1

 

[RoadRage]

that's who i would prefer.. i wanna see my boy kd get 1

Not to throw shade KD way but the Cavs would have absolutely ate up OKC.. They are a very poor match up vs Cleveland..

 

[Tha Great Muta]

that's who i would prefer.. i wanna see my boy kd get 1

Cavs would have nushed OKC

 

[KingTaharqa]

Steven Adams is not LeBron James. Green should have been smart enough to know to ease up. All the Greats get preferential treatment but let's call it the other way. Green gets suspended in the OKC series and OKC is in the Finals. Right?

Tallblack will tell you MJ didnt get preferential treatment.

The irony is the flagrant foul rule that got Green suspended came only after MJ complained to the league about the Pistons in 1990.

 

[SpiritualPorn]

Yeah, they allowed a lot of that swatting fuckery.

Sure did
They called it great defense by Iggy and Dray.
LeBron nor the Cavs complained
They adjusted
Bron started hitting his outside shot
Soon as things didn't go GS way it was a conspiracy

 

[Tha Great Muta]

I had to read this twice

How can anyone use Green as an excuse?
He missed one game out of seven.
Green should have been suspended in the last series.
Golden State truthfully got NBA assistance all year.
Most of the Finals , LeBron could barely get a call on drives.
Love got knocked the fuck out and there was no foul called. I didn't see one tweet from GS fans about that

These guys are so intellectually dishonest it's hilarious. Nobody was saying shit about the refs except bitchassrecords.

 

[SpiritualPorn]

Not to throw shade KD way but the Cavs would have absolutely ate up OKC.. They are a very poor match up vs Cleveland..

Another 5 game sweep

 

[KingTaharqa]

These guys are so intellectually dishonest it's hilarious. Nobody was saying shit about the refs except bitchassrecords.

Tallblack and the other Jordan dickriders souls are really hurt when LeBron wins chips. And for him to have a better Finals against a better team than MJ ever faced really stings.

Tallblack will tell you the 97 Jazz are better than the 2016 Warriors to keep that Jordan myth alive.

 

[KingTaharqa]

that's who i would prefer.. i wanna see my boy kd get 1

You mustve really been mad in 2012.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Has anyone just admitted that the 3s stop falling for GS, Green was wide open for a 3 with like 2 mins and he just flat out missed it. Ball don't lie.

 

[SpiritualPorn]

These guys are so intellectually dishonest it's hilarious. Nobody was saying shit about the refs except bitchassrecords.

I wanted to see GS in the Finals vs the Cavs.
But anyone that says the refs cheated for the Cavs yet completely ignore what Green did in the OKC series is not being honest.
I'm not even talking about the kick Adams nuts.
Green tried to take Adams shoulder off.
Also high kicked I think Westbrook in the face.

 

[TimRock]

And for him to have a better Finals against a better team than MJ ever faced really stings.

Tallblack will tell you the 97 Jazz are better than the 2016 Warriors to keep that Jordan myth alive.

Wow, you really typed that? So much blasphemy in these two sentences, I wouldn't know where to begin.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

I swear I don't hate the Warriors at all but I honestly believe there are more people that hate LeBron than Warriors fans in the entire world. Everyone knows the basketball team of California is the Los Angeles Lakers. And you can see this now that people are calling LeBron a snitch or a cry baby or this or that. But they never talk about what went wrong for their team, it's always someone else fault I seen a few people on here with an unbiased point of view saying that golden state shit the bed but even they are hesitant to acknowledge the immortal finals perferomace by LeBron. The fact that he did so much with just Kyrie as help cannot be ignored and will be talked about forever. It's laughable to compair him to Wilkins,Bird,Malone or any of those cats.

 

[Mr. Met]

3 and counting to Barkley's ZERO. FOH!

 

[TimRock]

I swear I don't hate the Warriors at all but I honestly believe there are more people that hate LeBron than Warriors fans in the entire world. Everyone knows the basketball team of California is the Los Angeles Lakers. And you can see this now that people are calling LeBron a snitch or a cry baby or this or that. But they never talk about what went wrong for their team, it's always someone else fault I seen a few people on here with an unbiased point of view saying that golden state shit the bed but even they are hesitant to acknowledge the immortal finals perferomace by LeBron. The fact that he did so much with just Kyrie as help cannot be ignored and will be talked about forever. It's laughable to compair him to Wilkins,Bird,Malone or any of those cats.

Not a fan of either, but I said in the game thread, GS was shooting too many jumpers. They lost how they have been known to win all this time. And they sucked at rebounding.


And it wasn't just Kyrie, he had help in other ways. Others didn't put up the points that Kyrie did, but they contributed in certain areas. Kevin Love early on, rebounding. Thomas had some points, blocks and rebound. Smith helped ease the half time lead.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Wow, you really typed that? So much blasphemy in these two sentences, I wouldn't know where to begin.

No team MJ saw in a Finals was as good as this Warrior team.

And no MJ Finals performance tops this one by Bron.

Go ahead, try us. You wont cuz you cant.

 

[TimRock]

No team MJ saw in a Finals was as good as this Warrior team.

And no MJ Finals performance tops this one by Bron.

Go ahead, try us. You wont cuz you cant.

I'm not gonna waste my time or yours, but the fact that you think this, proves a lot. Carry on.

 

[AllUniverse17]

Wow, you really typed that? So much blasphemy in these two sentences, I wouldn't know where to begin.

What team did MJs Bulls beat that was better then those Warriors?

And I do think MJ should rank higher then James but this finals as an accomplishment stands above the rest.

 

[KingTaharqa]

I'm not gonna waste my time or yours, but the fact that you think this, proves a lot. Carry on.

Exactly what I thought. No answers. There isnt a single one you can point to.

 

[Day_Carver]

Has anyone just admitted that the 3s stop falling for GS, Green was wide open for a 3 with like 2 mins and he just flat out missed it. Ball don't lie.

Everyone has admitted that; the whole dam team miss a ton of wide open shots all series long; they miss several in the last 4 mins as well; Like I said it wasnt just Green being suspended as to why they lost; anyone with a brain knows that; But dont act like him not playing in game 5 didnt help the cavs, it did; you can say he shoulda been suspended in OKC, and thats probably true; but those are opinions and not facts; Kyrie had a great series; LBJ had an historic series and GS still could have won; and some will argure they still should have won; alot went right for Cavs and alot went wrong for GS; GS lost because Barnes flat out stunk, Curry shit the bed, and whole dam team went missing the last 4 mins of the game; Nothing more nothing less; Its too much dumb shit going on in these threads and thats because people love to hype their favorite players up...

 

[TimRock]

What team did MJs Bulls beat that was better then those Warriors?

And I do think MJ should rank higher then James but this finals as an accomplishment stands above the rest.

What do you have to go by to determine who was better? The teams record? How can you prove to me that GS was better than all the teams the bulls played? You gonna get all the players together and have them play against each other? Oh I know, you'll use stats to show me that it is impossible for GS to lose to the Jazz, Lakers, Suns, Sonics and Blazers. If stats is all you have to go by, that's not proof.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

These GOAT and Top 5 debates are all dumb, no matter who your picks are.

 

[Day_Carver]

These GOAT and Top 5 debates are all dumb, no matter who your picks are.

you are exactly right...

 

[TimRock]

What team did MJs Bulls beat that was better then those Warriors?

And I do think MJ should rank higher then James but this finals as an accomplishment stands above the rest.

What did he accomplish? We giving credit to who some are saying is the best player ever, for coming back from being down 1-3. Ask yourself this, was Jordan in that situation in the finals? No. Why was LeBron, the great one, even down? He's the best ever right? He controls the game. No one can stop him. So why was he in a hole? You guys are only looking at the positive side. Yeah he came back, bravo, but he should have not been in that position to begin with, if he is as great as you say he is. And I think, not having the same stats as LeBron, proves how good Jordan was because he didn't have his back against a wall to where he had to do that. Why didn't LeBron have this performance last year, or against SA his last year in Miami. Or against Dallas? Let's here the excuses.

Yeah he's great, but not the greatest and never will be.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Everyone has admitted that; the whole dam team miss a ton of wide open shots all series long; they miss several in the last 4 mins as well; Like I said it was just Green being suspended as to why they lost; anyone with a brain knows that; But dont act like him not playing in game 5 didnt help the cavs, it did; you can say he shoulda been suspended in OKC, and thats probably true; but those are opinions and not facts; Kyrie had a great series; LBJ had an historic series and GS still could have won; and some will argure they still should have won; alot went right for Cavs and alot went wrong for GS; GS lost because Barnes flat out stunk, Curry shit the bed, and whole dam team went missing the last 4 mins of the game; Nothing more nothing less; Its too much dumb shit going on in these threads and thats because people love to hype their favorite players up...

You niggas suffer from some sort of basketball mental disorders and need help.Green had TWO FUCKING GAMES to seal the deal. I can understand if it was just one game left but the nigga had two to get it right. He could not get it done period. Every time one of you niggas bring up Green or Bogut missing I'm gonna bring up Kyire or Love missing last year, because we are both speaking hypothetically..

As far as it's an opinion to whether Green should have been suspended or not is some complete bull to the shit. What sport is it ok to kick a grown ass man in the balls and not get penalized for it????? You all want to say the Warriors loss rather than the Cavs winning.but Bron block on Iggy, his clucth free throw, JR showing up in the second half, love's d on the MVP in the final minute and Irving' right in the face of the MVP are all proof that the Cavs earned their win.

 

[Postalone]

warriors fucked up+ with a lil assistance of the higher ups to fuck up their momentum... warriors had this series in the bag and a bunch of shit happened that lead to their demise..as far as bird compared to lebron bird played better comp yes he did

Yes, so correct! GSW screwed up big time. They maligned and alienated the refs to the point, like a great card shark, they were NOT going to let GSW win a close game 7. GSW got to the free throw line 11 times. Curry 1 free throw and Thompson 0. No touch fouls called on those 3 point shot attempts. Those refs walked off the court snickering after that game.

 

[Day_Carver]

What did he accomplish? We giving credit to who some are saying is the best player ever, for coming back from being down 1-3. Ask yourself this, was Jordan in that situation in the finals? No. Why was LeBron, the great one, even down? He's the best ever right? He controls the game. No one can stop him. So why was he in a hole? You guys are only looking at the positive side. Yeah he came back, bravo, but he should have not been in that position to begin with, if he is as great as you say he is. And I think, not having the same stats as LeBron, proves how good Jordan was because he didn't have his back against a wall to where he had to do that. Why didn't LeBron have this performance last year, or against SA his last year in Miami. Or against Dallas? Let's here the excuses.

Yeah he's great, but not the greatest and never will be.

They not listening to you bro; Dudes never want to admit when LBJ shits the bed; and he has several times; But dudes love to point out when other players now and before have shit the bed; he was down 3-1 and GS had every opportunity to win game 7; Fuckers didnt score in the last 4mins of the game!!!!; that didnt happen not 1 time end their entire season; but yet dudes come out of lurking after Cavs win talking about I told you so ; no player is perfect and LBJ has his faults just like other greats do...

 

[KingTaharqa]

What did he accomplish? We giving credit to who some are saying is the best player ever, for coming back from being down 1-3. Ask yourself this, was Jordan in that situation in the finals? No. Why was LeBron, the great one, even down? He's the best ever right? He controls the game. No one can stop him. So why was he in a hole? You guys are only looking at the positive side. Yeah he came back, bravo, but he should have not been in that position to begin with, if he is as great as you say he is. And I think, not having the same stats as LeBron, proves how good Jordan was because he didn't have his back against a wall to where he had to do that. Why didn't LeBron have this performance last year, or against SA his last year in Miami. Or against Dallas? Let's here the excuses.

Yeah he's great, but not the greatest and never will be.

He was down because this was an all time great team he was facing that was heavily favored. Even the Lakers and Celtics teams in the 80s were down in series before and went to Gane 7s. The fact the Bulls of the 90s never did is a testament to the weak comp they faced who never won nothing.

You cant name 1 Finals Jordan had better than this 1? Should be easy right? Bron makes dude look like your average volume scorer.

 

[TimRock]

Yes, so correct! GSW screwed up big time. They maligned and alienated the refs to the point, like a great card shark, they were NOT going to let GSW win a close game 7. GSW got to the free throw line 11 times. Curry 1 free throw and Thompson 0. No touch fouls called on those 3 point shot attempts. Those refs walked off the court snickering after that game.

I wouldn't go that far, Cleveland did what they had to do to win. The refs didn't do anything. GS shot themselves out of the game.

 

[Day_Carver]

You niggas suffer from some sort of basketball mental disorders and need help.Green had TWO FUCKING GAMES to seal the deal. I can understand if it was just one game left but the nigga had two to get it right. He could not get it done period. Every time one of you niggas bring up Green or Bogut missing I'm gonna bring up Kyire or Love missing last year, because we are both speaking hypothetically..

As far as it's an opinion to whether Green should have been suspended or not is some complete bull to the shit. What sport is it ok to kick a grown ass man in the balls and not get penalized for it????? You all want to say the Warriors loss rather than the Cavs winning.but Bron block on Iggy, his clucth free throw, JR showing up in the second half, love's d on the MVP in the final minute and Irving' right in the face of the MVP are all proof that the Cavs earned their win.

You clearly dont know how to read; Go back and reread the post; Nothing you said makes any sense; Not once did I say in the post I just posted, that the reason why GS lost was because green wasnt there; I didnt even mention Bogut; You sir clearly miss the point were reading is fundamental; Please reread and stop trying to carry on a debate, when nobody is debating...

 

[AllUniverse17]

What did he accomplish? We giving credit to who some are saying is the best player ever, for coming back from being down 1-3. Ask yourself this, was Jordan in that situation in the finals? No. Why was LeBron, the great one, even down? He's the best ever right? He controls the game. No one can stop him. So why was he in a hole? You guys are only looking at the positive side. Yeah he came back, bravo, but he should have not been in that position to begin with, if he is as great as you say he is. And I think, not having the same stats as LeBron, proves how good Jordan was because he didn't have his back against a wall to where he had to do that. Why didn't LeBron have this performance last year, or against SA his last year in Miami. Or against Dallas? Let's here the excuses.

Yeah he's great, but not the greatest and never will be.

The way guys respond when their backs are against the wall goes a very long way.

Explain to me why this sort of comeback has never been done before please.

 

[KingTaharqa]

They not listening to you bro; Dudes never want to admit when LBJ shits the bed; and he has several times; But dudes love to point out when other players now and before have shit the bed; he was down 3-1 and GS had every opportunity to win game 7; Fuckers didnt score in the last 4mins of the game!!!!; that didnt happen not 1 time end their entire season; but yet dudes come out of lurking after Cavs win talking about I told you so ; no player is perfect and LBJ has his faults just like other greats do...

He wasnt even posed to be in a Game 7. You said all year Cavs had NO CHANCE. And after 2 games you was calling sweep. Jordan wouldve lost to this Warrior team.