Canelo Not Intimidated: Paul Williams Talks Going Well

[Alaskanredman]

WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (40-0-1, 29KOs) may receive a very tall order for his September title defense – in the form of 6’3 Paul “The Punisher” Williams (41-2, 27KOs). There are very positive discussions taking place, says Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, to finalize Alvarez-Williams as a pay-per-view headliner for September 15th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

“[Negotiations] are going very well. We had some very good meetings with his team, and with Canelo as well. As a matter of fact, [Golden Boy President] Oscar [De La Hoya] met with him today again. There are very good conversations. I met with the adviser for Paul Williams, Al Haymon, and we are working on that. We are working on trying to finalize the fight between Canelo and Paul Williams,” Schaefer told BoxingScene.com.

Nobody can dispute the danger involved. Williams, standing at 6’3 and having a reach of 82 inches, has a clear physical advantage over the 5’9 champion with a reach of 71 inches. Williams also has a very high workrate and he doesn’t get tired. But, Canelo is not intimidated and indicated to Golden Boy that he wants the fight. Everything appears to be moving in a positive direction in terms of a deal being reached.

Schaefer is confident that a win over Williams will open up the door for potential mega-events with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Miguel Cotto.

“That’s what Canelo wants…he wants to fight the best. [Williams] has been one of the most avoided fighters. He’s an awkward fighter. He’s a different style from anyone that Canelo has ever fought. It’s a dangerous fight,” Schaefer said.

“People want to see big fight and this is a big fight and a dangerous fight. Protecting [unbeaten records] and as a result fighting guys where people already know the result when you go into the venue….who the hell wants to see that? There are other possibilities but this is a big fight and a dangerous fight and that’s what people want to see.”

“If he goes and beats Paul Williams, then I think all of those people who say ‘we’re still not so convinced by Canelo’ – they should just shut up.”

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[O.J PIMPSON]

that 11 inch reach difference would mean something if Paul fought his height, but he like to fight inside, doesn't throw a "stay the fuck right there" jab and takes too many shots because he won't fight his height. I like Paul but he get this fight he going the fuck to sleep................EARLY!!!!!!

 

[P03t]

too bad Paul doesn't fight tall he doesn't use his reach to his advantage at all...

Canelo about to catch another body

what happen to Kirkland Vs Canelo?

 

[Alaskanredman]

Williams will get those retirement papers fucking around with Canelo.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Williams will get those retirement papers fucking around with Canelo.

Well, he gets one more big payday.

I still like Paul but he hasn't done anything lately to earn this fight.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Well, he gets one more big payday.

I still like Paul but he hasn't done anything lately to earn this fight.

Yeah, I liked him too and I was willing to make excuses for him, but I had to jump off the wagon when Lara was robbed and Paul was saying he doesn't care if people land the overhand right... then he was acting like he won, which isn't new for robberies, but saying on top of that he won't change his fighting style.

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[patscorpio]

if canelo faces paul he will catch a serious beatdown...just off the fact his stamina and workrate is shit and against a high volume puncher it wont be pretty

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

he would be undefeated if only he had one of them Tommy hitman Hearns or lARRY THE CHAMP HOLMES in his prime that jab was a wmd.

how he lets anyone come inside his reach without defending it with a solid jab is just baffaling?

 

[Alaskanredman]

if canelo faces paul he will catch a serious beatdown...just off the fact his stamina and workrate is shit and against a high volume puncher it wont be pretty

I hope it becomes a fight, but I see Canelo's power unscrewing the rest of Paul's brain.

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[patscorpio]

I hope it becomes a fight, but I see Canelo's power unscrewing the rest of Paul's brain.

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canelo is not a counter puncher though and other than baldomir he hasn't really ko'ed anyone of note that had a good chin...but i hope it becomes a brawl too

 

[Alaskanredman]

canelo is not a counter puncher though and other than baldomir he hasn't really ko'ed anyone of note that had a good chin...but i hope it becomes a brawl too

Man... all you need to do with P Will is throw a wild overhand right with heat on it and do it repeatedly. Canelo has mean power, but he is careful and I respect that. I hope for Paul's sake he has altered his defense or is active enough to throw Canelo out of his game like you suggested.

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[merce77]

I think ya'll way over-estimate Canelo. He's only beaten an old Mosley and a never-was in Cintron.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I think ya'll way over-estimate Canelo. He's only beaten an old Mosley and a never-was in Cintron.

I think we would agree if we weren't talking about Williams as an opponent.

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[Upgrade Dave]

I think ya'll way over-estimate Canelo. He's only beaten an old Mosley and a never-was in Cintron.

True but having not seeing him since the Lara fight, I don't have the same faith in Williams like in years past.

 

[merce77]

Well you guys know I was never a Paul Williams guy but Canelo hasn't shown me anything for me to believe he's going to grab a guy 6'3" with an 82 inch reach and just beat the shit out of him. Paul Williams has problems with boxers, brawlers are his type of fighters. Canelo is somewhere in between. Dangerous match up for young Canelo, at least on paper.

 

[P03t]

Well you guys know I was never a Paul Williams guy but Canelo hasn't shown me anything for me to believe he's going to grab a guy 6'3" with an 82 inch reach and just beat the shit out of him. Paul Williams has problems with boxers, brawlers are his type of fighters. Canelo is somewhere in between. Dangerous match up for young Canelo, at least on paper.

Williams has been schooled by fighters not on Canelo's level

& with the reach advantage & height advantage why is Paul so easy to hit...he doesn't use his height or reach to his advantage

he doesn't fight tall like the Klits or even Hearns...he is willing to fight in a phone booth he almost never keeps his opponent at the end of his punches

Canelo TKO

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Williams has been schooled by fighters not on Canelo's level

& with the reach advantage & height advantage why is Paul so easy to hit...he doesn't use his height or reach to his advantage

he doesn't fight tall like the Klits or even Hearns...he is willing to fight in a phone booth he almost never keeps his opponent at the end of his punches

Canelo TKO

But he's always had that weakness and he was still hell for most guys and the most avoided guy in the business.

 

[merce77]

Williams has been schooled by fighters not on Canelo's level

& with the reach advantage & height advantage why is Paul so easy to hit...he doesn't use his height or reach to his advantage

he doesn't fight tall like the Klits or even Hearns...he is willing to fight in a phone booth he almost never keeps his opponent at the end of his punches

Canelo TKO

Hold on. Lara is not on Canelo's level? Lara is a waaay better, way more experienced pure boxer than Canelo. And who has schooled Williams other than Lara and
Quintana, 2 world class fighters. He was in a war with Sergio and got ktfo the second fight. I can't ride with this Canelo kid until he fights a live body. I can't buy into the hype of a dude that hasn't done anything worth hyping yet. So far ya'll got him destroying Cotto, Paul Williams, Kirkland and everybody else. Don't crown the kid until he's actually won something. You notice they never mentioned fighting Lara, the guy who actually deserves the fight.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Hold on. Lara is not on Canelo's level? Lara is a waaay better, way more experienced pure boxer than Canelo. And who has schooled Williams other than Lara. He was in a war with Sergio and got ktfo the second fight. I can't ride with this Canelo kid until he fights a live body. I can't buy into the hype of a dude that hasn't done anything worth hyping yet. So far ya'll got him destroying Cotto, Paul Williams, Kirkland and everybody else. Don't crown the kid until he's actually won something.

I'm sure he means the first Quintana fight.

I still pick Kirkland in that match up, but you are correct about the rest. I would love to see all the match ups.

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[merce77]

I'm sure he means the first Quintana fight.

I still pick Kirkland in that match up, but you are correct about the rest. I would love to see all the match ups.

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For me the Kirkland fight is a toss up, I think their styles complement each other enough to make a great match. Ironic though, Quintana just called out Canelo a couple days ago after he destroyed Bundrage a on the Floyd/Cotto card. Now Canelo's fighting Paul Williams. At least Williams avenged the Quintana fight, brutally. I must admit though, it's refreshing to see a young fighter who actually WANTS to fight all the best guys in his division and who's not signed to Top Rank.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Hold on. Lara is not on Canelo's level? Lara is a waaay better, way more experienced pure boxer than Canelo. And who has schooled Williams other than Lara and
Quintana, 2 world class fighters. He was in a war with Sergio and got ktfo the second fight. I can't ride with this Canelo kid until he fights a live body. I can't buy into the hype of a dude that hasn't done anything worth hyping yet. So far ya'll got him destroying Cotto, Paul Williams, Kirkland and everybody else. Don't crown the kid until he's actually won something. You notice they never mentioned fighting Lara, the guy who actually deserves the fight.

Lara is getting shitted on this deal. Can the brother at least get on one these undercards?

For me the Kirkland fight is a toss up, I think their styles complement each other enough to make a great match. Ironic though, Quintana just called out Canelo a couple days ago after he destroyed Bundrage a on the Floyd/Cotto card. Now Canelo's fighting Paul Williams. At least Williams avenged the Quintana fight, brutally. I must admit though, it's refreshing to see a young fighter who actually WANTS to fight all the best guys in his division and who's not signed to Top Rank.

Talking about fighting Mayweather, dude has a host of good fights to make to show he deserves that kind of high profile fight. Beat some live bodies, Floyd's got at least two more fights in him (unless he gets Pacquiao, then it's wrap).

 

[Alaskanredman]

For me the Kirkland fight is a toss up, I think their styles complement each other enough to make a great match. Ironic though, Quintana just called out Canelo a couple days ago after he destroyed Bundrage a on the Floyd/Cotto card. Now Canelo's fighting Paul Williams. At least Williams avenged the Quintana fight, brutally. I must admit though, it's refreshing to see a young fighter who actually WANTS to fight all the best guys in his division and who's not signed to Top Rank.

You gotta respect it because he is actually trying to prove himself. He doesn't side step guys when asked. He is confident in his abilities so lets see what happens. I just hope I'm wrong.

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[P03t]

Hold on. Lara is not on Canelo's level? Lara is a waaay better, way more experienced pure boxer than Canelo. And who has schooled Williams other than Lara and
Quintana, 2 world class fighters. He was in a war with Sergio and got ktfo the second fight. I can't ride with this Canelo kid until he fights a live body. I can't buy into the hype of a dude that hasn't done anything worth hyping yet. So far ya'll got him destroying Cotto, Paul Williams, Kirkland and everybody else. Don't crown the kid until he's actually won something. You notice they never mentioned fighting Lara, the guy who actually deserves the fight.

fam Quintana is not world class...Kirkland is a one trick pony he is not skillful he uses his touhness to win fights...Cotto most likely won't be easy...Willaims got schooled a few times he fights to his opponents strengths not using his strength his height & reach....

dudes face was terrible after Lara what you think a better puncher with skills like Canelo going to do to him

 

[tp2001]

So who do you guys think Canelo should fight next out of Williams, Cotto, and Kirkland?

 

[Alaskanredman]

So who do you guys think Canelo should fight next out of Williams, Cotto, and Kirkland?

Cotto because he is the biggest name, best boxer out the three and Cotto has been able to duck that division.

 

[merce77]

fam Quintana is not world class...Kirkland is a one trick pony he is not skillful he uses his touhness to win fights...Cotto most likely won't be easy...Willaims got schooled a few times he fights to his opponents strengths not using his strength his height & reach....

dudes face was terrible after Lara what you think a better puncher with skills like Canelo going to do to him

How the hell is Quintana not world class fam. Former champ, first guy to beat Paul Williams when that was saying something. Sorry fam, but that is a world class fighter. You don't have to be skilled to be world class, ask Mickey Ward. If you've shown yourself capable of beating or hanging with top opposition, that makes you world class.
Lara is a moving boxer-puncher who throws lots of punches, he's mad slick, him and Canelo couldn't be more different. So basing what you think Canelo is going to do on the fight with Lara, makes no sense. Styles make fights.

 

[merce77]

Cotto because he is the biggest name, best boxer out the three and Cotto has been able to duck that division.

I don't think it's fair to put that on him.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I don't think it's fair to put that on him.

Yeah he was under that Top Rank banner, but come on he could have spoke his mind at least to the press about fighting certain guys. He chose to play along and the best example is that bogus Margarito rematch. Cotto said himself that he wouldn't allow "Margarito to make any money off of his name" after we all found out he was a cheat. That was some bogus bullshit and even with fighting Floyd, that was another guy that wasn't fighting at 154. That was for the most money he has ever made which no one blames him, but how the fuck do you claim champion or headline PPVs and only 1 of 4 guys you fought was active at your weight class. The shit is a joke.

We will see if he gives any of the guys at 154 a chance, but I would not be surprised if he rematches Floyd and calls it quits.

 

[Alaskanredman]

How the hell is Quintana not world class fam. Former champ, first guy to beat Paul Williams when that was saying something. Sorry fam, but that is a world class fighter. You don't have to be skilled to be world class, ask Mickey Ward. If you've shown yourself capable of beating or hanging with top opposition, that makes you world class.
Lara is a moving boxer-puncher who throws lots of punches, he's mad slick, him and Canelo couldn't be more different. So basing what you think Canelo is going to do on the fight with Lara, makes no sense. Styles make fights.

While I agree with most of this, P Will says niggas can have the overhand right all night. He exposed his own weakness and said have fun because I'm not changing shit with his trainer co signing. You don't need a style for that shit.

 

[merce77]

While I agree with most of this, P Will says niggas can have the overhand right all night. He exposed his own weakness and said have fun because I'm not changing shit with his trainer co signing. You don't need a style for that shit.

True. I still see this as a bad physical match up.

 

[merce77]

Incidentally, is it true Zeferino got banned?

 

[Alaskanredman]

Incidentally, is it true Zeferino got banned?

That's what they say... dude crosses all types of lines for reactions. I guess the mods got tired of it.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Incidentally, is it true Zeferino got banned?

Wouldn't surprise me. Dude stays going for shock value and pushing the limit. I actually find him amusing in small doses but he does have some moments, a lot of them.

True. I still see this as a bad physical match up.

I agree but it depends on which Williams shows up. He never uses his reach but he does use good movement and a high volume of punches. If he plays to that, he stands a good chance and could put himself back on the p4p list again.

How the hell is Quintana not world class fam. Former champ, first guy to beat Paul Williams when that was saying something. Sorry fam, but that is a world class fighter. You don't have to be skilled to be world class, ask Mickey Ward. If you've shown yourself capable of beating or hanging with top opposition, that makes you world class.
Lara is a moving boxer-puncher who throws lots of punches, he's mad slick, him and Canelo couldn't be more different. So basing what you think Canelo is going to do on the fight with Lara, makes no sense. Styles make fights.

I wouldn't have said Quintana was world class until he popped Lattimore in a fight where he was clearly picked to be "the opponent". He might not be a truly great fighter but he's still a serious top flight talent who should never be underestimated.
Canelo is not Lara. Lara has great movement and had the perfect game plan. Alvarez is going to have to bring his best for Williams. Paul has to know this a make or break fight so I expect (hope) he comes guns blazing.

 

[merce77]

I still love the fact that Saul is ready to take on the best, no matter the threat. That's throwback material in this era of low risk-high reward fights/fighters. Williams will be a legit test for him.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I still love the fact that Saul is ready to take on the best, no matter the threat. That's throwback material in this era of low risk-high reward fights/fighters. Williams will be a legit test for him.

I'm not sold on him yet but fighting good fighters is how he can get people like me on the bandwagon. Beating an old Shane Mosley and thinking that's enough to warrant a Mayweather (or Pacquiao) fight isn't.