Cam explains why he ether Melyssa Ford for suggesting he might’ve messed with underage girls in a story he told on the show about back in the day

Gods_Debris

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i can read great, but I just want to remind you of this quote of what you wrote defending mel that you think it's wrong because Camron shot back after what mel said about him FIRST!
Quote the portion defending melyssa, maybe you just can't hear all that great then. She very carefully presented the presence of minors as a possibility she never said they were there. Legally that is a defensible position for council. Cam just straight out made an allegation. It was dumb as fuck to do, he should have made his statement in a similarly speculative manner but he was so hurt he just started slinging mud like a child throwing his blocks around the room.
 

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Nigga:lol:you capin up for some niggas that wouldn't spit on you if you were cooking in a open pit. Matta fact these juvenile degenerate ass niggas would prolly point, laugh, and spark a blunt off the raging flames. If you could read you would realize I'm just pointing out that your boy is about to get caught up for making the prostitution allegation with no receipts. He is a dumbass.
My boy, you can deflect all you want... still don't take away from the fact that your cape is flying valiantly in the wind for this chic... are you one of the niggas from the podcast or something? That bitch related to you? What's the deal?

And if you listen, Joey insinuated she was an escort to her face... so if she want to be mad at somebody it should be him
 

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My boy, you can deflect all you want... still don't take away from the fact that your cape is flying valiantly in the wind for this chic... are you one of the niggas from the podcast or something? That bitch related to you? What's the deal?

And if you listen, Joey insinuated she was an escort to her face... so if she want to be mad at somebody it should be him
Ok cool, you have a mental disorder. I was wondering what your deal was.
 

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Melyssa based her accusation off of a false premise. The story she is using to base her accusations took place when Cam was a minor in 1992. So unless the females in questions were 12-15 years old dancing in a underground club, it's a very far stretch to make a minor look like an abuser.

Cam also mentioned that fact that Melyssa was in Canada in 1992 and wouldn't know what Cam was doing as a minor. So unless she has something other to reference than the story Can supplied about he had Mase it seems like she fabricating facts

The accusations about Melyssa are based off of accounts of her actions as an adult by other adults. These aren't accusations based solely off her actions in Canada. You can't say that what Cam is saying if 100% true but what he is saying is more probable that the accusations Melyssa put out there.

It find it amazing some of the stances people are taking. If you knew both sides of this tiff you would understand who is backtracking and who has a leg to stand on.
 

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Melyssa based her accusation off of a false premise. The story she is using to base her accusations took place when Cam was a minor in 1992. So unless the females in questions were 12-15 years old dancing in a underground club, it's a very far stretch to make a minor look like an abuser.

Cam also mentioned that fact that Melyssa was in Canada in 1992 and wouldn't know what Cam was doing as a minor. So unless she has something other to reference than the story Can supplied about he had Mase it seems like she fabricating facts

The accusations about Melyssa are based off of accounts of her actions as an adult by other adults. These aren't accusations based solely off her actions in Canada. You can't say that what Cam is saying if 100% true but what he is saying is more probable that the accusations Melyssa put out there.

It find it amazing some of the stances people are taking. If you knew both sides of this tiff you would understand who is backtracking and who has a leg to stand on.
What are you talking about because I'm talking about the difference between what is legally slander and what isn't? Y'all niggas playing detective and shit pulling up charts, pulling out string and thumb tacks and timelines with telephoto lensed images and shit. Y'all niggas wild. She implied some bullshit but he straight up stated it as fact then started talking about suing and lawyers when HE is the one in legal jeopardy. I don't know why he opened that can of worms but he did. I wait I do, it was his emotions.
 

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Ok cool, you have a mental disorder. I was wondering what your deal was.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.... but I'm the one with the mental disorder :rolleyes2:

Answer the question... why you going so hard in your defense of this heffa and what she said? You either fuckin, want to fuck, related to the bitch or work on the podcast... I'm just trying to figure which category you fall under, because ain't no way you would have your cape this freshly pressed for a bitch you have ZERO affiliation with... unless YOU'RE the one with the disorder at which point your actions would make perfect sense.

What she did was indefensible. She had no right to make any insinuations of that matter against those men, and it's especially reckless in today's climate. It potentially messes with their funding, sponsorships, and future business endeavors. I have zero remorse for how Camron or Mase retaliate to her accusations as the impact of those accusations can be damaging beyond measure to their financial security and well being.

Who cares about a half assed apology followed up with more tough talk from Joe grumpy ass. She should have kept her fckn mouth shut and that goes for anybody making statements like that, male or female. Don't speak on shit you have no knowledge of.

And like i said, if Cam said she was escorting Buddens dumbass basically confirmed it with his "bad escorts" comment...
 

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Melyssa based her accusation off of a false premise. The story she is using to base her accusations took place when Cam was a minor in 1992. So unless the females in questions were 12-15 years old dancing in a underground club, it's a very far stretch to make a minor look like an abuser.

Cam also mentioned that fact that Melyssa was in Canada in 1992 and wouldn't know what Cam was doing as a minor. So unless she has something other to reference than the story Can supplied about he had Mase it seems like she fabricating facts

The accusations about Melyssa are based off of accounts of her actions as an adult by other adults. These aren't accusations based solely off her actions in Canada. You can't say that what Cam is saying if 100% true but what he is saying is more probable that the accusations Melyssa put out there.

It find it amazing some of the stances people are taking. If you knew both sides of this tiff you would understand who is backtracking and who has a leg to stand on.
She didn't base it off anything because Cam never said what year it happened or what age he was or even where it took place, she just said something foul out of nowhere
 

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Quote the portion defending melyssa, maybe you just can't hear all that great then. She very carefully presented the presence of minors as a possibility she never said they were there. Legally that is a defensible position for council. Cam just straight out made an allegation. It was dumb as fuck to do, he should have made his statement in a similarly speculative manner but he was so hurt he just started slinging mud like a child throwing his blocks around the room.
I wasn't gonna respond but you seem to want my attention.......Like I said your calling cam all this shit because he wanted to defend himself from allegations Ms ford said about him that the majority on this thread agree that cam had the right to fire back at ms ford the way he did no matter how the delivery was or him continuing to throw shots at her. Anybody when a bitch say something about them which is false would act out the same way but i can't speak for you because I don't know how you would react towards someone accusing you for some shit that you didn't do. But like I said, the majority of niggas on this board be caping for these bitches no matter if she wrong or right without having facts to back it up. Crazy how a bitch can say something and the majority of niggas would side with her before facts and then want to tell how a man should react.
 
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That shit was very messy of her. The ramifications that these allegations could have on negations for a deal or sponsorship is huge in this environment. If she’s going to say these things she needs to come all the way out with evidence. If she ain’t got none, leave the brothas alone.

Cam was right to go hard at her and probably should’ve done more.
 

jawnswoop

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That shit was very messy of her. The ramifications that these allegations could have on negations for a deal or sponsorship is huge in this environment. If she’s going to say these things she needs to come all the way out with evidence. If she ain’t got none, leave the brothas alone.

Cam was right to go hard at her and probably should’ve done more.
The sad part is women never receive any consequences for those false allegations. Because women should be charged for lying.
 

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What are you talking about because I'm talking about the difference between what is legally slander and what isn't? Y'all niggas playing detective and shit pulling up charts, pulling out string and thumb tacks and timelines with telephoto lensed images and shit. Y'all niggas wild. She implied some bullshit but he straight up stated it as fact then started talking about suing and lawyers when HE is the one in legal jeopardy. I don't know why he opened that can of worms but he did. I wait I do, it was his emotions.
You real out of pocket. But Imma let you keep typing since you know so much.

What he said has to be proven was slander. Melyssa can sue all she wants but that doesnt mean she will win. But God Bless her if she tries.

LOL!! I don't have to "detect" shit about behavior that I have witnessed with my own eyes from both people.

I'm not dogging her about her past but I wouldn't doubt some of what am has been said happened.
In her prime niggas was tricking hard on that girl. Shit is what it is.
 

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patrice o neal told all of you in comedy routine= women love to fuck up a flow of a man conversation. this is a lesson= you can't invite women to sports anything, they will fuck it up
 

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I wasn't gonna respond but you seem to want my attention.......Like I said your calling cam all this shit because he wanted to defend himself from allegations Ms ford said about him that the majority on this thread agree that cam had the right to fire back at ms ford the way he did no matter how the delivery was or him continuing to throw shots at her. Anybody when a bitch say something about them which is false would act out the same way but i can't speak for you because I don't know how you would react towards someone accusing you for some shit that you didn't do. But like I said, the majority of niggas on this board be caping for these bitches no matter if she wrong or right without having facts to back it up. Crazy how a bitch can say something and the majority of niggas would side with her before facts and then want to tell how a man should react.

Back in my Jr high/high school days a classmate got labeled as a pedo. Originally, most people more so said it as a joke. Overtime, the joke amongst people in the know got turned into the guy really being labeled as a pedo. To this day and after his death, people still believe that even though most people couldn't say who the victims were or even who they were related to. No one really knows the truth.

My point is MFord making the statement my stick or have people question Cam and Mase moving forward regardless of them denying it or MFord kind of trying to clean it up.

For those who say she apologized, watch the clip and you'll see it wasn't sincere. In the latest pod, she basically says the backlash was getting to her and kind of plays the victim from the parts I watched. I don't think Cam would have cared if it were sincere or not, but being truly regretful and just saying words to reduce backlash are different. maybe she said more but I stopped listening once it became about her and not the people she disrespected intentionally or not.

I also didn't respect her allowing men to stand on her behalf as she mostly sat silent. I didn't have an issue with people giving support to her. However, we've seen this play out worse case scenario. The men go at it and the woman slowly backs out. Someone gets hurt only for the woman to say I never asked anyone to do anything and go on to live her life. The men are either dead or in jail over petty shit that shouldn't have escalated except right or wrong someone wanted to protect a woman who's behavior was questionable to begin with. If MFord would have told the guys to respectfully stay out of it and I can address this myself, it would be different if said men still looked out. As I said before, maybe that was said and I moved on too fast.

MFord should openly speak on her experience in the industry and name people if need be. In my opinion, she pushes the woman voice thing extra hard due to unresolved things from her time in the industry or those she knows. She can romanticize video vixens, but the truth is they were seen mostly as sexual objects. They weren't respected during that time. Yes, it's true that they helped to reshape what is considered a acceptable body size for models, but they still had other issues like colorism. Honest question. How many video vixens went on to be professional models outside of Hip-hop or have any type of career? I'm not saying this to disrespect her craft or accomplishments. However, there is clear regret about the ugly side of her profession and younger women/girls could benefit from hearing those stories. She could have easily talked about underage girls on video sets or taking part in adult activities.

I said it before, I wouldn't necessarily do what Cam did, but im not going to tell someone else how to react or judge harshly given what was done. It's COE on boths sides to me.
 

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Back in my Jr high/high school days a classmate got labeled as a pedo. Originally, most people more so said it as a joke. Overtime, the joke amongst people in the know got turned into the guy really being labeled as a pedo. To this day and after his death, people still believe that even though most people couldn't say who the victims were or even who they were related to. No one really knows the truth.

My point is MFord making the statement my stick or have people question Cam and Mase moving forward regardless of them denying it or MFord kind of trying to clean it up.

For those who say she apologized, watch the clip and you'll see it wasn't sincere. In the latest pod, she basically says the backlash was getting to her and kind of plays the victim from the parts I watched. I don't think Cam would have cared if it were sincere or not, but being truly regretful and just saying words to reduce backlash are different. maybe she said more but I stopped listening once it became about her and not the people she disrespected intentionally or not.

I also didn't respect her allowing men to stand on her behalf as she mostly sat silent. I didn't have an issue with people giving support to her. However, we've seen this play out worse case scenario. The men go at it and the woman slowly backs out. Someone gets hurt only for the woman to say I never asked anyone to do anything and go on to live her life. The men are either dead or in jail over petty shit that shouldn't have escalated except right or wrong someone wanted to protect a woman who's behavior was questionable to begin with. If MFord would have told the guys to respectfully stay out of it and I can address this myself, it would be different if said men still looked out. As I said before, maybe that was said and I moved on too fast.

MFord should openly speak on her experience in the industry and name people if need be. In my opinion, she pushes the woman voice thing extra hard due to unresolved things from her time in the industry or those she knows. She can romanticize video vixens, but the truth is they were seen mostly as sexual objects. They weren't respected during that time. Yes, it's true that they helped to reshape what is considered a acceptable body size for models, but they still had other issues like colorism. Honest question. How many video vixens went on to be professional models outside of Hip-hop or have any type of career? I'm not saying this to disrespect her craft or accomplishments. However, there is clear regret about the ugly side of her profession and younger women/girls could benefit from hearing those stories. She could have easily talked about underage girls on video sets or taking part in adult activities.

I said it before, I wouldn't necessarily do what Cam did, but im not going to tell someone else how to react or judge harshly given what was done. It's COE on boths sides to me.

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For those who say she apologized, watch the clip and you'll see it wasn't sincere. In the latest pod, she basically says the backlash was getting to her and kind of plays the victim from the parts I watched. I don't think Cam would have cared if it were sincere or not, but being truly regretful and just saying words to reduce backlash are different. maybe she said more but I stopped listening once it became about her and not the people she disrespected intentionally or not.

she took zero accountability and rapidly jumped into full victim mode - "this is what happens when misogyny goes unchecked"

that lady is a mess hiding behind a façade of sex and fake pseudo-intellectualism
 

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she took zero accountability and rapidly jumped into full victim mode - "this is what happens when misogyny goes unchecked"

that lady is a mess hiding behind a façade of sex and fake pseudo-intellectualism

I don't think I listened long enough to hear what you quoted, but that does make it worse than I originally thought.

Even going back to the initial statements she made, I don't think some people are factoring in her body language, facial expressions and verbal add ons MFord did when the other co-host challenged her opinion/thoughts. Hence, why some people are giving the excuse of MFord didn't say Cam and Mase did anything with minors directly.

She didn't immediately say no I'm not saying they are guilty of that. Instead the room challenged her opinion and she said something like " do we" and continued to talk about her research or a doc she watched about sex trafficking.at face value, it can be taken that she's saying they could have took a minor home because minors are some times there. She never removed Cam and Mase from her point of minors being in whore houses and made it a separate point. She kept putting them in the situation of potentially knowingly or unknowingly taking part in this.

I know people are going to say I'm over thinking this, but communication isn't just what we say or verbal language. It includes body language and even expressions/tone of how/what we are verbally saying.
 

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How many video vixens went on to be professional models outside of Hip-hop or have any type of career?
Years later them same hoes on Onlyfans selling pussy. They wasn't nothing but glorified prostitutes on rap videos. Just like in 2023 the Brothers who travel as Passport Bros on youtube be having women in they videos. Them hoes all is hookers too. Woman in a video as eye candy is a hooker.
 
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