Bush Ignores US People- Get The Coffins Ready!!

muckraker10021

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Read the article and watch the video below, it highlights the abject buffoonery of the Bush junta’s troop ‘surge’ plan. The Shiite Iraqi troops that are embedded with the US troops, <b>will never be fully committed to engage in a 100% Bloodlust to kill their fellow county men & women. </b> More importantly the Sunni’s have access to hundreds of millions of dollars $$$$ - and tons of weapons & explosives. Bottom line : More Death and Chaos with Americans <font color="#ff0000"><b>killed</b></font> in the middle.
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Baghdad Battle Cry: 'Who's Shooting At Us?'</font>

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January 25, 2007

by Damien Cave

<u>BAGHDAD</u></b>

In the battle for Baghdad, Haifa Street has changed hands so often that it has taken on the feel of a no man's land, the deadly space between opposing trenches.

On Wednesday, as U.S. and Iraqi troops poured in, the street showed why it is such a sensitive gauge of an urban conflict marked by front lines that melt into confusion, enemies with no clear identity and allies who disappear or do not show up at all.

In a miniature version of the troop increase that the United States hopes will secure the city, American soldiers and armored vehicles raced onto Haifa Street before dawn to dislodge Sunni insurgents and Shiite militiamen who have been battling for a stretch of ragged slums and mostly abandoned high rises. But as the sun rose, many of the Iraqi Army soldiers who were supposed to do the actual searches of the buildings did not arrive on time, forcing the Americans to start the job on their own.

When the Iraqi units finally did show up, it was with the air of a class outing, cheering and laughing as the Americans blew locks off doors with shotguns. As the morning wore on and the troops came under fire from all directions, another apparent flaw in this strategy became clear as empty apartments became lairs for gunmen who flitted from window to window and killed at least one U.S. soldier.

Whether the gunfire was coming from Sunni or Shiite insurgents or militia fighters or some of the Iraqi soldiers who had disappeared into the Gotham- like cityscape, no one could say.

"Who the hell is shooting at us?" shouted Sergeant 1st Class Marc Biletski, whose platoon was jammed into a small room off an alley that was being swept by a sniper's bullets. "Who's shooting at us? Do we know who they are?"

Just before the platoon tossed smoke bombs and sprinted through the alley to a more secure position, Biletski had a moment to reflect on this spot, which the U.S. Army has now fought to regain from a mysterious enemy at least three times in the past two years. "This place is a failure," he said. "Every time we come here, we have to come back."

He paused, then said, "Well, maybe not a total failure," since American troops have smashed opposition on Haifa Street each time they have come in. With that, Biletski ran through the yellow smoke and took up a new position.

The Haifa Street operation, involving Bradley Fighting Vehicles and highly mobile Stryker vehicles, will probably cause plenty of reflection by the commanders in charge of the Baghdad "surge" of more than 20,000 troops.

Just how those extra troops will be used is not yet known, but it will probably mirror at least broadly the Haifa Street strategy of working with Iraqi forces to take on groups from both sides of the Sunni-Shiite sectarian divide.

Lieutenant Colonel Avanulas Smiley of the 3d Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2d Infantry Division, said his forces were not interested in whether opposition came from bullets fired by Sunnis or by Shiites. He conceded that the cost of letting the Iraqi forces learn on the job was to add to the risk involved in the operation.

"This was an Iraqi-led effort and with that come challenges and risks," Smiley said. "It can be organized chaos."

Many of the Iraqi units that showed up late never seemed to take the task seriously, searching haphazardly, breaking dishes and rifling through personal CD collections in the apartments. Eventually the Americans realized that the Iraqis were searching no more than half of the apartments; at one point the Iraqis completely disappeared, leaving the U.S. unit working with them flabbergasted. "Where did they go?" yelled Sergeant Jeri Gillett. Another soldier suggested, "I say we just let them go and we do this ourselves."

Then the gunfire began. It would come from high rises across the street, from behind trash piles and sandbags in alleys and from so many other directions that the soldiers began to worry that the Iraqi soldiers were firing at them. Mortars started dropping from across the Tigris River, to the east, in the direction of a Shiite slum.

The only thing that was clear was that no one knew who the enemy was.

At one point the Americans were forced to jog alongside the Strykers on Haifa Street, sheltering themselves as best they could from the gunfire. The Americans finally found the Iraqis and ended up accompanying them into an extremely dangerous and exposed warren of low-slung hovels behind the high rises as gunfire rained down.

American officers tried to persuade the Iraqi soldiers to leave the slum area for better cover, but the Iraqis refused to risk crossing a lane that was being raked by machine gun fire.

In this surreal setting, about 20 American soldiers were forced at one point to pull themselves one by one up a canted tin roof by a dangling rubber hose and then shimmy along a ledge to another hut. The soldiers were stunned when a small child suddenly walked out of a darkened doorway and an old man started wheezing and crying somewhere inside.

Ultimately the group made it back to the high rises and escaped the sniper in the alley by throwing out the smoke bombs and sprinting to safety. Even though two Iraqis were struck by gunfire, many of the rest could not stop shouting and guffawing with amusement as they ran through the smoke.

One Iraqi soldier in the alley pointed his rifle at an American reporter and pulled the trigger. There was only a click: The weapon had no ammunition. The soldier laughed at his joke.

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lightbright

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That buffoon already said that his word was gonna be the last word no matter what congress said about it.... :hmm:
 

kain

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I believe Bush is missing this point.

We CAN take control of Baghdad but can you hold it?

How long will it take for the Iraqs take over security? My guess is never...they are not motivated to put their asses on the line. The US forces have to pull a Saddam and totally eliminate one of the group to peace to occur long term.

The plan is going to fail. It is ill conceived.
Now they want to fight Iran by drawing them into the conflict.........
WWIII is about to pop off...and we may see invaders in the US to overthrown the White house.
 

muckraker10021

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Just saw this commercial from IRAQ WAR VETERANS VoteVets.org on MSNBC.

JOIN the TROOPS - Stop the TROOP ESCALATION</font>

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SO A PRESIDENT GOING AGAINST THE WILL OF MAJORITY OF THE NATION, THE SENATE, THE CONGRESS,MOST OF THE MILITARY,AND HALF OF HIS ADMINISTRATION.. DOESNT START GROUNDS FOR IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS? :smh:
 

muckraker10021

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<h2>READ ARTICLE BELOW</h2>
Bush is sending US troops to their death.
THEY DON'T HAVE PROPER EQUIPMENT.
Bush has DESTROYED the US Military.
Will the Senate & Congress stop the demented fool ???????????????????</font><p>
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Equipment For Added Troops Is Lacking</font><font face="tahoma" color="#0000FF" size="4"><b>
New Iraq Forces Must Make Do, Officials Say</b></font><font face="georgia" size="3" color="#000000"><p>
<table border="5" width="600" cellspacing="3" cellpadding="3" bordercolorlight="#FF0000" bordercolordark="#FF0000" bgcolor="#000000" height="120"><tr><td><font color="#FFFFFF" face="tahoma" size="4"><br>Army National Guard units, have only 40 percent of their required equipment, minimum equipment levels are not expected to return to
'normal' levels until 2013<br>&nbsp;</font></td></tr></table><b>
by Ann Scott Tyson

Washington Post Staff Writer

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Tuesday, January 30, 2007; page A12</b>
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Boosting U.S. troop levels in Iraq by 21,500 would create major logistical hurdles for the Army and Marine Corps, which are short thousands of vehicles, armor kits and other equipment needed to supply the extra forces, U.S. officials said.</b></font>

The increase would also further degrade the readiness of U.S.-based ground forces, hampering their ability to respond quickly, fully trained and well equipped in the case of other military contingencies around the world and increasing the risk of U.S. casualties, according to Army and Marine Corps leaders.

"The response would be slower than we might like, we would not have all of the equipment sets that ordinarily would be the case, and there is certainly risk associated with that," the Marine Corps commandant, Gen. James Conway, told the House Armed Services Committee last week.
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President Bush's plan to send five additional U.S. combat brigades into Iraq has left the Army and Marines scrambling to ensure that the troops could be supported with the necessary armored vehicles, jamming devices, radios and other gear, as well as lodging and other logistics.

Trucks are in particularly short supply. For example, the Army would need 1,500 specially outfitted -- known as "up-armored" -- 2 1/2 -ton and five-ton trucks in Iraq for the incoming units, said Lt. Gen. Stephen Speakes, the Army's deputy chief of staff for force development.

"We don't have the [armor] kits, and we don't have the trucks," Speakes said in an interview.</b></span> He said it will take the Army months, probably until summer, to supply and outfit the additional trucks. As a result, he said, combat units flowing into Iraq would have to share the trucks assigned to units now there, leading to increased use and maintenance.

Speakes said that although another type of vehicle -- the up-armored Humvee -- continues to be in short supply Army-wide, there would be "adequate" numbers for incoming forces, and each brigade would receive 400 fully outfitted Humvees. But he said that to meet the need, the Army would have to draw down pre-positioned stocks that would then not be available for other contingencies.

Still, U.S. commanders privately expressed doubts that Iraq-bound units would receive a full complement of Humvees. "It's inevitable that that has to happen, unless five brigades of up-armored Humvees fall out of the sky," one senior Army official said of the feared shortfall. He expects that some units would have to rely more heavily on Bradley Fighting Vehicles and tanks that, although highly protective, are intimidating and therefore less effective for many counterinsurgency missions.

Adding to the crunch, the U.S. government has agreed to sell 600 up-armored Humvees to Iraq this year for its security forces. Such sales "better not be at the expense of the American soldier or Marine," Speakes told defense reporters recently, saying U.S. military needs must take priority.

Living facilities in Iraq are another concern for the additional troops, who would be concentrated in Baghdad, Army officials said. The U.S. military has closed or handed over to Iraqi forces about half of the 110 bases established there after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Decisions are being made on where to base incoming units in Baghdad, but it is likely that, at least in the short term, they would be placed in existing facilities, officials said.

Lt. Gen. David H. Petraeus, the new top U.S. commander in Iraq, has requested that additional combat brigades move into Iraq as quickly as possible. But accelerated deployments would mean less time for units to train and fill out their ranks. Brigades are required to have an aggregate number of soldiers before deploying but may still face shortages of specific ranks and job skills.

Meanwhile, the demand for thousands more U.S. forces in both Iraq and Afghanistan is worsening the readiness of units in the United States, depleting their equipment and time to train, Army officials said. "We can fulfill the national strategy, but it will take more time and it will also take us increased casualties to do the job," Speakes said.

Army Chief of Staff Peter J. Schoomaker testified last week before the House Armed Services Committee that, regarding readiness, "my concerns are increased over what they were in June."

"To meet combatant commanders' immediate wartime needs, we pooled equipment from across the force to equip soldiers deploying in harm's way," he said. "This practice, which we are continuing today, increases risk for our next-to-deploy units and limits our ability to respond to emerging strategic contingencies."

Schoomaker called for additional funding to fix "holes in the force" and "break the historical cycle of unpreparedness."
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The equipment shortages are pronounced in Army National Guard units, which have, on average, only 40 percent of their required equipment, according to Army data. Senior Pentagon and Army officials say they expect to have to involuntarily mobilize some National Guard combat brigades earlier than planned to relieve active-duty forces. But the Guard as a whole is not expected to return to minimum equipment levels until 2013, Army figures show.</b></span>

The Army seeks to increase its permanent active-duty ranks by 65,000 soldiers by 2012, creating six new combat brigades at a total estimated cost of $70 billion.
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CPT Callamity

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In true BGOL fashion, there will be someone in here claiming this is necessary and that this is what we sign up for. As a soldier, my anger stems from the fact that this one person has everyone standing off. He should've been impeached from the moment it was proven this whole thing is a lie. What a perfect way to build discontent amongst the masses and welcome a New World Government in.
 

Fiya Ant

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and they lied to those people saying peace will come when Saddam is dead...

I knew that was a lie, it would only make things worst..
 

shanebp1978

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They were talking about the lack of equipment on NOW, last week or so. squads sharing tanks for training, that are then transported to Iraq.
 

L_SON

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muckraker10021 said:
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Just saw this commercial from IRAQ WAR VETERANS VoteVets.org on MSNBC.

JOIN the TROOPS - Stop the TROOP ESCALATION</font>

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You won't see this ad on FOX NEWS!
 

shanebp1978

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Another long Honour Roll on the Newshour with Jim Lehr. 27 names I think. Since the war has begun, I've seen at least 15 people from my hometown. And the least just gets longer, and longer, daily.
 

gene cisco

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SO A PRESIDENT GOING AGAINST THE WILL OF MAJORITY OF THE NATION, THE SENATE, THE CONGRESS,MOST OF THE MILITARY,AND HALF OF HIS ADMINISTRATION.. DOESNT START GROUNDS FOR IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS? :smh:
Ladies and gentlemen, this is from 2007, not 2020. :lol:
 
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