Breaking: Mueller Objects to Barr's Description of Russia Investigation's Findings

[sharkbait28]

Once I heard Barr’s testimony..... I knew exactly where this is going to go... and to be honest I think it has to go that route...

Eventually folks are going to start getting fatigued and lose interest....

But if the Dems have to take this to the Supreme Court to force The repubs to let McGahn testify... then Dems can ride on the “What are you hiding chant”

They could also continue to build a case against Barr for impeachment...

Sadly right now... I just don’t think they have enough to seek a worthwhile impeachment hearing against Barr without more leaked documents or another whistleblower...

Dude was lying his ass off but his wording was carefully calculated.

I will say this ... if Mueller says that I specifically voiced my opinion to Barr over the phone and memorized that opinion in the subsequent letter that is before the committee then... Barr lied in front of Congress and that would be an easy case for impeachment...

But mueller is such a straight shooter... I just don’t know what he will say. Dude isn’t a rock the boat type of guy.

Grandstanding isn’t going to get you anywhere with dude.

Yeah man Barr chose his words so carefully. It was a masterclass in hedging and artful dodging. Even when Harris nailed him to the fucking wall he kept enough wits about him to say "I dunno". Also smart enough to duck the Congressional hearings where he'd get cooked at a much higher heat. I was always worried Trump would eventually get one of these ultra-competent lying fucks on the team. The other staffers are basically cartoon characters and been largely ineffective in comparison... it's frightening to think how much more fuckery is coming down the pike if 45 gets a few more well placed Barrs

 

[veritech]

I don't think the SCOTUS sides with Trump on this. Not even the ones he picked.

 

[Camille]

Kavanaugh was picked for his opinion that a sitting President can't be indicted and incidentally he believes strongly that POTUS shouldn't even be subject to a criminal investigation until after their term. He, like Barr, was literally installed to protect Trump. Gorsuch tends to vote along partisan lines. The only hope here is Roberts who could be concerned about his legacy but even there I have my misgivings... he voted to strip the Voting Rights Act of it's teeth. I think things are even worse than they look tbh

They aren't trying to indict Trump tho, they just want McGahan to testify. They aren't going to set a precedent that would work favorably for a Democrat to defy republicans in a similar situation. I think they tell the WH to kick rocks on this one.

 

[Nzinga]

The Congress has the power to arrest anyone who defies its subpoena without regard to any court.

 

[cashwhisperer]

**Breaking*** Former DNI Clapper says Trump campaign aided and abetted Russians.

 

[cashwhisperer]

18 U.S. Code § 3. Accessory after the fact
U.S. Code
Notes
Authorities (CFR)

Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.

Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 684; Pub. L. 99–646, § 43, Nov. 10, 1986, 100 Stat. 3601; Pub. L. 101–647, title XXXV, § 3502, Nov. 29, 1990, 104 Stat. 4921; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §§ 330011(h), 330016(2)(A), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2145, 2148.)

 

[cashwhisperer]

https: // www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/05/02/james-clapper-intv-nothing-bothered-me-as-much-as-2016-russian-interference-crn-vpx.cnn

 

[cashwhisperer]

 

[Dr. Truth]

What the hell is a DNI clapper!?!!

 

[MurderCity]

What the hell is a DNI clapper!?!!

James Clapper - Former United States Director of National Intelligence

 

[Dr. Truth]

James Clapper - Former United States Director of National Intelligence

Does he have any weight? What’s this mean?

 

[Flawless]

18 U.S. Code § 3. Accessory after the fact
U.S. Code
Notes
Authorities (CFR)

Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.

Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 684; Pub. L. 99–646, § 43, Nov. 10, 1986, 100 Stat. 3601; Pub. L. 101–647, title XXXV, § 3502, Nov. 29, 1990, 104 Stat. 4921; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §§ 330011(h), 330016(2)(A), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2145, 2148.)

Brah these laws are for poor people.

 

[fonzerrillii]

i didn't see alot of Kats mentioning this... but Amy Klobuchar shit... was how you get it done. Her shit is exactly how real lawyers do it... Specific questions that created a Narrative and related it to his previous testimony during the confirmation hearing. She then compared what he said to get nominated with what he saw now. It's used to create a story.

Notice how she kept forcing on showing the pattern... while BARR's stupid ass kept looking at shit like one incident..

 

[Spectrum]

 

[ViCiouS]

The Congress has the power to arrest anyone who defies its subpoena without regard to any court.

yeah they do - but guess who is responsible execute the warrant?

US Attorney -> FBI / Marshal

 

[darth frosty]

 

[T_Holmes]

Are they any brakes on this rolling shitshow....?

 

[Nzinga]

yeah they do - but guess who is responsible execute the warrant?

US Attorney -> FBI / Marshal

Wrong...the Sergeant at Arms of the Congress

 

[therealjondoe]

Any arrests or impeachment yet

 

[Spectrum]

Wrong...the Sergeant at Arms of the Congress

Yeah. You're right. I don't think they'll go that route, but they certainly have the power to do it...it just hasn't been done since the 1930s.

 

[Nzinga]

Yeah. You're right. I don't think they'll go that route, but they certainly have the power to do it...it just hasn't been done since the 1930s.

Exactly

 

[Dota]

Does he have any weight? What’s this mean?

He's basically head of the Intelligence Community. So all that reacted CI info in Muller's report they know since they collect it.

 

[kirkout]

They aren't trying to indict Trump tho, they just want McGahan to testify. They aren't going to set a precedent that would work favorably for a Democrat to defy republicans in a similar situation. I think they tell the WH to kick rocks on this one.

And see that’s the problem, the Dems are out here playing a friendly game of softball.

 

[ViCiouS]

Wrong...the Sergeant at Arms of the Congress

there is a reason - contempt of congress is usually referred to to the US Attorney and arrest effected by the FBI:

- unless the subject is on Capitol grounds - how is the Sergeant of Arms of the House going to effect an arrest w/o cooperation of LEO?
The AG moves with an extensive security detail, but for shits and giggles lets assume Sergeant at Arms compels capitol police and DC police to carry out his arrest in DC streets- and Barr cooperates, what about getting local police cooperation for other subjects in VA and Md?
Do you really see current Homeland or Treasury Secretaries allowing arrests by DC police or capitol police in any of the buildings they control?
Can you see any of the DoJ agencies assisting in carrying out any arrest ordered by Congress?

 

[Spectrum]

 

[BDR]

GOP fucked up confirming this fat fuck

 

[easy_b]

GOP fucked up confirming this fat fuck

Yeah they thought they could cover it up and people will move on but this attorney general is making things worse

 

[Spectrum]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ala-harris-william-barr-confrontation-829841/

 

[darth frosty]

 

[sharkbait28]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ala-harris-william-barr-confrontation-829841/

Yup, you can't shame these people. He's doing exactly the job he was brought in to do. All the half-measures and throaty condemnations in the world won't stop this train. Dems need to go nuclear... no more empty threats or deadlines.

They aren't trying to indict Trump tho, they just want McGahan to testify. They aren't going to set a precedent that would work favorably for a Democrat to defy republicans in a similar situation. I think they tell the WH to kick rocks on this one.

I hope you're right but these guys have already demonstrated that they're not concerned in the least about the precedents set by their insane actions (see national emergency from earlier in the year for reference).

I think we're applying an old lens that doesn't capture the new galaxy we're observing. Barr already said Mcgahn can't testify for reasons of privilege and Trump has installed Justices who have very favorable views on the breadth of Executive powers. I don't have much faith that these guys will do the right thing if this ball ends up in their court (which seems to be where this is headed).

 

[sharkbait28]

 

[Camille]

Yup, you can't shame these people. He's doing exactly the job he was brought in to do. All the half-measures and throaty condemnations in the world won't stop this train. Dems need to go nuclear... no more empty threats or deadlines.



I hope you're right but these guys have already demonstrated that they're not concerned in the least about the precedents set by their insane actions (see national emergency from earlier in the year for reference).

I think we're applying an old lens that doesn't capture the new galaxy we're observing. Barr already said Mcgahn can't testify for reasons of privilege and Trump has installed Justices who have very favorable views on the breadth of Executive powers. I don't have much faith that these guys will do the right thing if this ball ends up in their court (which seems to be where this is headed).

There isn't supposed to be privilege for publicly known information. If it's in the report and they didn't object to his disclosing of information to Mueller, they can't say it's privilege now. I don't think the SCOTUS would back that nonsense up.

 

[Flawless]

Other than racism, why would Barr put his career on the line like this?

 

[therealjondoe]

Other than racism, why would Barr could his career on the line like this?

Hes a Republican covering up Republican dirt.

 

[sammyjax]

Other than racism, why would Barr could his career on the line like this?

He got skin in the game

Russia connections, family connections, and money tied up in all this shit and it should have kept him from getting the job but they were asking him the wrong questions