Breaking Bad: Sympathy For Gus Fring

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Gus Fring was a murderer and large scale peddler of a highly-addictive illegal drug. He knew this drug was capable of having calamitous effects on any community it infiltrated. He killed enemies, accomplices, and trusted associates. He may or may not have been living in America under a fake name after working in some capacity with Pinochet’s violent regime in Chile. He did all this right under the nose of the government agency responsible for catching people like him, posing as a bespectacled local businessman who wanted to support law enforcement, even as he was signing off on the attack that would eventually leave one of those officers bedbound and partially paralyzed for a number of months. And yet, despite all that, I still feel a little bad for Gus Fring.

What was Gus Fring’s real crime? Yes, okay, all those murder and narcotics things I just mentioned, if you want to be legally and technically accurate. But let’s not do that. Let’s zoom out a little and look at all of this from 30,000 feet, where the individual actions he took and laws he broke look like little tiny ants scurrying around a blue and green Earth. I don’t know about you, but from up way there I just see a guy who was guilty of flying a little too close to the sun.

Let’s rewind.


We know very little about Gus Fring prior to his association with Walter White. We know he was very successful, and we know he was very careful. He hid in plain sight, making only well-planned moves that were designed to increase profits without raising his profile. We also know he had enough status in Chile prior to becoming Gustavo Fring, proprietor of Los Pollos Hermanos fried chicken restaurant, that the boss of a violent Mexican cartel would let him live even after deciding that his burgeoning drug business was an offense deserving of severe corporal punishment. The exact nature of his role in Chile is still a mystery, and it’s somewhat off-topic from the point I’m getting at, but given his expert knowledge of the narcotics industry as well as all I’ve mentioned here, maybe stories like this one can provide some potential framework for his old life. A sample:

In testimony sent to Chilean Judge Claudio Pavez, Manuel Contreras alleges that Pinochet and his son Marco Antonio organised a massive production and distribution network, selling cocaine to Europe and the US in the mid-1980s.

According to Contreras, once Pinochet’s ally and now a bitter enemy, Pinochet ordered the army to build a clandestine cocaine laboratory in Talagante, a rural town 24 miles from Santiago. There he had chemists mix cocaine with other chemicals to produce what Contreras described as a “black cocaine” capable of being smuggled past drug agents in the US and Europe.

Point being: Maybe he wasn’t the best guy prior to his meeting with Walter. Fine, conceded.

But it was Walter who, as he does to pretty much everyone he comes in contact with, turned Gus’s life into dog crap before ending it in dramatic, explosive fashion. Gus hired Walt because Walt presented himself as a serious businessman who could produce meth of great quality and quantity with very little drama. Then Walt demanded that the friendly, competent, karaoke-loving Gale be replaced in the super-lab with the then mid-train wreck Jesse, at least partially to distract Jesse from going after Hank with a lawsuit, and that’s where everything started to come unglued for Gus. (Who, it should be pointed out, originally passed on working with Walt for exactly that reason.) Bringing in Jesse led to the disagreements with the street dealers who killed Combo, which led to the issues with the killing of young Tomás, which led to Walter — the supposedly mild-mannered chemistry teacher whose one job was to quietly cook the meth that fueled the whole operation — mowing down and shooting two of Gus’s dealers in the street to save Jesse. I could continue, but I think you see where I’m headed. Walter White, and his association with Jesse, turned Gus Fring’s careful, successful empire to dust.

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Now let’s imagine a world where Gus sticks to his gut and chooses not to work with Walter. He’s still got Gale, a fine chemist who makes excellent, if not world-changing, methamphetamine. He’s still in a good place to make the move against the cartel that he’d been planning. And it’s not like he’d have to worry about “Heisenberg” and his blue meth, because Tio’s nephews would have had no one to stop them from axing Walter as he walked out of the shower, and Jesse was and is too much of a loose cannon to become a serious threat. Plus, with no Walter and Jesse in the picture, Gale never gets murdered, which means Hank never stumbles across the Los Pollos wrapper from Gale’s apartment that triggered the whole investigation in his operation (nor does Hank ever get attacked by the cousins, meaning he doesn’t have weeks and weeks to sit around the house connecting dots).

The long and short of it is that Gus Fring could have probably had all he ever wanted — a consistent supply of high-quality product, no enhanced suspicion from the DEA, revenge against his enemies, some homemade Chilean soup in the evenings — had he not agreed to work with Walter. He just flew a little too close to the sun, like a Meth Icarus, and for his sins, he got burned. Say what you will about the man and his methods, but that’s a little sad.



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RunawaySlave

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Man if I'm Gus I cut all that shit off the minute I find out Gale's been murdered. Everybody out
That shit always did bother the hell out of me
 

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that final scene w/ gus had me fucked up for a minute...that was some creepy shit + I felt some way about walter getting the best of him
 

code_pirahna

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I can t feel sorry for Gus......He played the game and went hard against Walt....

and lost the game.....he also went hard against the old dude and was trying like usual to cover his tracks......and got got....

:dunno:

no sympathy its just that he lost the game.
 

code_pirahna

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Man if I'm Gus I cut all that shit off the minute I find out Gale's been murdered. Everybody out
That shit always did bother the hell out of me

But he didn t cause he wanted that M O N E Y.......

can t feel sorry for that when you know to walk away but that greed gets you....
 

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But he didn t cause he wanted that M O N E Y.......

can t feel sorry for that when you know to walk away but that greed gets you....


No not walk away fuck that I built this shit....WALTER is fired. Right then and there...I find something new. But there isn't any sympathy for Gus at all. I'm just taking the view of the article that Gus was not your typical drug dude. He operated a CARTEL but we're talking about a guy that's been flying under the radar for YEARS not some fly by night drug dealer. Gale getting killed would've been an automatic REBOOT of the entire operation starting with the cat closest to his death...That's from the perspective of the article. Which I happen to agree with


Just imagine your running a business and your shit is like CLOCKWORK for years then you meet this muthafukka and he injects himself into your business (that's been running on auto pilot for years) and within a matter of a few days your main money maker is killed and you have to depend on this same person?? Hell naw, I'm getting rid of that fool
 
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I LOVE Gus's Best friend. That Old Guy with the BELL! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
Ring ring ring...Ring ring ring...Ring ring ring...:lol::lol::lol:
 

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No not walk away fuck that I built this shit....WALTER is fired. Right then and there...I find something new. But there isn't any sympathy for Gus at all. I'm just taking the view of the article that Gus was not your typical drug dude. He operated a CARTEL but we're talking about a guy that's been flying under the radar for YEARS not some fly by night drug dealer. Gale getting killed would've been an automatic REBOOT of the entire operation starting with the cat closest to his death...That's from the perspective of the article. Which I happen to agree with


Just imagine your running a business and your shit is like CLOCKWORK for years then you meet this muthafukka and he injects himself into your business (that's been running on auto pilot for years) and within a matter of a few days your main money maker is killed and you have to depend on this same person?? Hell naw, I'm getting rid of that fool

what u said was the smart play. It never happened cause Gus wanted that money.

Walt = money
 

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what u said was the smart play. It never happened cause Gus wanted that money.

Walt = money
its not really about waning the money, as you saw Gus was running a big international operation, when you are making that kind of money you cant just quit. He had a chance to when he took out the cartel but he wanted to be boss now
 

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I still havnt figured out why Gus cut that kid's throat.

I think it was for drama, because really, that was Walt and Jessie's death right there. The dude knew how to cook the meth like Walt did it.

Storywise, I took it to mean "nobody is indispensable" and people saw him at Gale's crime scene. Gus ain't like loose ends. :lol:
 

RunawaySlave

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what u said was the smart play. It never happened cause Gus wanted that money.

Walt = money


Gus operation was so silent and well hidden that he could walk into DEA headquarters and shake hands with cats whose job it was to lock his ass up forever. I think the point of the article is that's why it's so out of character for him to take so many chances on Walter White. He wanted the blue meth only because it was cornering the market...But no Walter White, no blue. At that point Jesse didn't have it in him to do it alone, nor the brains and balls to take on Gus. So it was Walt or nothing....If I'm Gus, I chose nothing and go right back to the shit I've been using all along...Back to clockwork
 

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I hate that they never gave us the back story on Gus about who he was in CHile and why they killed his friend but not him
 

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I hear ya'll. Season recordings set for Breaking Bad and Low Winter Sun both starting on Sunday. The best thing about the series is that whole CAT/MOUSE shit over the years ... gotta love that suspense generated with the likes of Gus, Mike, Walt, and Hank ... the next few months will be fun as we watch this series come to a close (2008 - 2013).




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DVR set already!!!

I LOVE Gus's Best friend. That Old Guy with the BELL! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
Ring ring ring...Ring ring ring...Ring ring ring...:lol::lol::lol:

I hope they don't put some ridiculous twist in this scene that gives Walter some rope.

What makes the show so great is the chase.
 

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that scene where that fucker ain't have a face but still adjusted his tie was hard as fuck...


man i can't wait until sunday night they left off with a giant cliff hanger is Hank on the trail of Hisenberg
 

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they @ the part where gus said fuck a sniper lol but ya as I'm watching now gus put up w/ a lot of shit w/ hank snooping around too after the failed hit...dude shoulda said fuck walter + his whole family a long ass time ago
 

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I hate that they never gave us the back story on Gus about who he was in CHile and why they killed his friend but not him

You were supposed to infer that from Hank's inquiry + the throwback seen with Gus and his then, soon to be dead, chemist parter/brother that Gus was a king pin in Chile.

In all likelihood, Gus is FORMER CHILEAN MILITARY . . . in Pinochet's army.


JG
 

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You were supposed to infer that from Hank's inquiry + the throwback seen with Gus and his then, soon to be dead, chemist parter/brother that Gus was a king pin in Chile.

In all likelihood, Gus is FORMER CHILEAN MILITARY . . . in Pinochet's army.


JG
i read that from the comments when I googled it too, but its just speculation, I wish they had a 5 minute flashback
 

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i read that from the comments when I googled it too, but its just speculation, I wish they had a 5 minute flashback

I hadn't bothered to google it so of course it's just conjecture on my part. But Gus' demeanor, operational organization, and discipline are SCREAMING military . . . probably colonel (Rank high enough to be comfortable with authority, low enough not to be the head, next in line to be a general). I'd place good money on that.

JG
 

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"Don Eladio is dead!"
"His Capos are dead!"
"You have no one left to fight for."
"Fill your pockets and leave in peace...."
"Or fight me and DIE!"


Classic shit.
 

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You were supposed to infer that from Hank's inquiry + the throwback seen with Gus and his then, soon to be dead, chemist parter/brother that Gus was a king pin in Chile.

In all likelihood, Gus is FORMER CHILEAN MILITARY . . . in Pinochet's army.


JG

I thought they were lovers. During the flashback, when ol' boy was pissing in the pool. He turned back to his associate and said, "don't worry, they like this sort of thing"
 

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I thought they were lovers. During the flashback, when ol' boy was pissing in the pool. He turned back to his associate and said, "don't worry, they like this sort of thing"


No reason to believe he couldn't be both gay and former military.

JG
 

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You said "brother", now unless Breaking Bad was alluding to some sick incest shit, then you're wrong.

:lol: Nooooo, I would never infer that 'Breaking Bad' would permit a sick or twisted plot into the story arc . . . because they never do that!


Nah, but for real, I didn't mean blood related. More brothers by bond. After all, the name of their fast food chain cover operation was/is "Pollos Hermanos".


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:lol: Nooooo, I would never infer that 'Breaking Bad' would permit a sick or twisted plot into the story arc . . . because they never do that!


Nah, but for real, I didn't mean blood related. More brothers by bond. After all, the name of their fast food chain cover operation was/is "Pollos Hermanos".


JG

:lol: It's all good. I knew that you knew that, but I didn't want anyone to read your comment and think "brothers" in the literal sense.
 
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