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Breakdown of how Kevin Durant will fit into the Warriors offense
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Breakdown? Has he even signed the contract?
Yes he does
Coach Nick knows his shit. Congrats to golden state forming voltron.
But let @RoadRage tell it kd is a horrible spot up shooter
, needs the ball consistently doesn't fit at all with GS offenseblah blah blah blah.....
The problem is KD and Thompson will be playing redundant rolls in the pick and roll, both spotting up waiting for the dish... In my opinion both Thompson and Curry are much better outside shooters than Durant and for Durant to get those shots it will be a lot better than any of the splash brother taking it...
So if I was playing the Warriors I would try to bait the Warriors to forcing Durant to take the outside shots...
As far as having Durant come down with the ball and having Green set the pick and roll the way he does with Curry, again Curry is a better shooter, better ball handler and makes better decisions passing the ball, so that too will be a de-grade, also keep in mind the Warrior feast when the big man is force to rotate on Curry during these pick and roll switch off, go back the OKC series when Curry torched the Thunder when ever Durant or Adams was forced to guard him off the switch off... Do that with Green and the difference is not that pronounced, due to Green defender usually is the same type of guy who could defend against Durant so there would be very little mismatch in the switch off..
Lastly the problems the Warriors had with the Cavs is that their big men were able to match up vs Curry during these switch off, due to them being better perimeter defenders, so in that case switching the man guarding Durant with Love or Thompson will not be that big of a deal...
So if I was playing the Warriors I would try to bait the Warriors to forcing Durant to take the outside shots...
As far as having Durant come down with the ball and having Green set the pick and roll the way he does with Curry, again Curry is a better shooter, better ball handler and makes better decisions passing the ball, so that too will be a de-grade, also keep in mind the Warrior feast when the big man is force to rotate on Curry during these pick and roll switch off, go back the OKC series when Curry torched the Thunder when ever Durant or Adams was forced to guard him off the switch off... Do that with Green and the difference is not that pronounced, due to Green defender usually is the same type of guy who could defend against Durant so there would be very little mismatch in the switch off..
Lastly the problems the Warriors had with the Cavs is that their big men were able to match up vs Curry during these switch off, due to them being better perimeter defenders, so in that case switching the man guarding Durant with Love or Thompson will not be that big of a deal...
Bottom line, Durant will be playing the Love, Bosh, Barns roll, being stuffed in the corner waiting for the kick out and will usually be the forth man touching the ball after Curry, Thompson and Green...
The reason why these players numbers and % drop so low, is because its virtually impossible for rhythm shooters to stay on point with very few touches and shots.. Thats why they have specialist in the NBA who specialize in this type of shooting...
The reason why these players numbers and % drop so low, is because its virtually impossible for rhythm shooters to stay on point with very few touches and shots.. Thats why they have specialist in the NBA who specialize in this type of shooting...
They said Russ has helped him train for this role...
Durant stats suffered and the Thunder did nothing but fail with him being the 2nd option and him not doing shit when Russ dominated the ball..
So what are we supposed to expect from him as the 4th option on the club and even less touches...
Durant stats suffered and the Thunder did nothing but fail with him being the 2nd option and him not doing shit when Russ dominated the ball..
So what are we supposed to expect from him as the 4th option on the club and even less touches...
Fourth option?They said Russ has helped him train for this role...
Durant stats suffered and the Thunder did nothing but fail with him being the 2nd option and him not doing shit when Russ dominated the ball..
So what are we supposed to expect from him as the 4th option on the club and even less touches...
Pretty much sums it all up bruh...
Bottom line is ill trust jerry west and other great bball players analysis over yours..the fact that you are comparing team offenses that don't even run the same offenses and players that don't even play the same way is ridiculous but you will keep doing it
Bottom line is ill trust jerry west and other great bball players analysis over yours..the fact that you are comparing team offenses that don't even run the same offenses and players that don't even play the same way is ridiculous but you will keep doing it
You have a bad track record of falling for the okie doke, so I guess you are stuck depending on others for thinking instead of being able to figure shit out for yourself..Bottom line is ill trust jerry west and other great bball players analysis over yours..the fact that you are comparing team offenses that don't even run the same offenses and players that don't even play the same way is ridiculous but you will keep doing it
BTW there are only but so many shots in the game, not my opinion but a fact... So unless your going to show to me how the Warriors will somehow make Durant more than the 4th option on the team with out taking shots form Thompson, Curry, and play-making form Green, then I don't care if you get advice from Jesus fucking Christ, it still won't make sense...
At the end of the day, when the dust settles and GS wins the chip,it won't matter who is the 1st 2nd or 5th option..and like i said I'll trust my own
eyes and people who know played worked scout lived trained etc etc the game before you and your silly rhetoric....
I never said he is a horrible shooter... I said that he is a rhythem shooter who like most rhythem shooters has to usually be allowed to shoot himself out of slumps by shooting...But let @RoadRage tell it kd is a horrible spot up shooter
As the 3rd and 4th options, players like Barns, Love, JR Smith do not have that luxury, so their in game assignments are different... For these roll players when they are not shooting it is very important for them to be doing other things... In the case of Love he usually rebounds and is great at the long in bound passes, JR found a nitch for himself by being a spot on perimeter defender..
In order for Durant to embrace his new role, he too is going to find other ways of helping the club, when he is not getting the touches or when his shot is no falling...
Serious question, please don't take offense for me asking... But on the real, do you cut and paste your shit, because I could have sworn you repeated the same thing you just typed, a hundred times during the past season....
Reread..u said he's not good at spot of shooter..although he was 10th in the league..
I said he is a rhythem shooter not a shooter who is forced to hide in the corner taking 3 shots per quarter and expect to produce... There are some guys who are way less of a player than Durant who are better at that role than he is...
I have always been big on role players because this is how the sport is played... To me Durant is too good of a player and too much of a one dimensional player to be such a role player...
In my opinion if the Warriors would have gotten Whiteside instead it would have been lights out...
But one good thing, if Durant does fail, at least he is good trade value for the future...
You take yourself way too seriously..and I can tell u try to over think everything just like in that cop thread..everybody is in agreement and everybody is looking at the big picture yet u telling everyone they off..and u do it all the time..
But look at my track record, I only tell people they are off when they are... Remember when folks was killing the defense of Irving, killing the play of Love, laughing at JR Smith, swearing up and down the Spurs would be much better, claiming Irving and Love will eventually get injured, and saying Thompson wasn't worth his contract..You take yourself way too seriously..and I can tell u try to over think everything just like in that cop thread..everybody is in agreement and everybody is looking at the big picture yet u telling everyone they off..and u do it all the time..
Well not only did I say those shits was wrong, I explained in great detail exactly why it was wrong, and guess what, at the end of the day, every last one of my predictions as well as my explanation (sure you can guess and be right at times, but you cannot get lucky with reasoning with explanations) was 100% correct...
Its not that I am taking myself seriously, as much as me being logical and consistent with it..
Your track record is like everyone else's..your bitch ass wasn't saying shit when the cavs was down and green wasn't suspended..you say ridiculous shit just like everyone else..it's easy to play Monday morning qb after they came back and won..had they lost your ass would have still been hiding...
Again tell me three times where I was dead wrong about anything.......
I will even spot you one.... I was wrong about the Heat beating the Spurs, now take it from there..
BTW you should have a lot to go on, because I say a whole lot, and I have to problems thinking outside the box and opposing popular beliefs....
You said gs and the Hawks were the same team remember
you said cavs would beat GS last year remember u said love played defense remember u said that love fit with the cavs remember u said kd was a bad spot up shooter remember u constantly talk about cops and how bros shouldn't run blah blah blah instead of dealing with the problem(justice system)i can go on and on not worth it...Coach nick is a biased motherfucker and I am glad I saw this thread so I can go to his twitter and remind and laugh at his bullshit Cavs-Warriors analysis
Now getting back to the video, in actuality everything duke said is true so opposing it is not my stance..
My stance is everything Durant can do in that offense someone else can do better..
So yes Durant can bring the ball up the court and make his own shot, and do it very well..
However Curry does it better, so every time Durant does it as opposed to Curry he is actually doing the defense a favor.
Sure Durant can be effective off the pick and pop, but thats what Thompson usually does and having Durant do it instead will be a down grade from Thompson...
Same can be said about him setting up picks the way Green does, he will be good but Green does it better...
So in the end, its fools gold, where the shots are being distributed differently, not more shots being created, as in the case with Whiteside grabbing more rebounds and being a force in the paint by blocking so many shots..
My stance is everything Durant can do in that offense someone else can do better..
So yes Durant can bring the ball up the court and make his own shot, and do it very well..
However Curry does it better, so every time Durant does it as opposed to Curry he is actually doing the defense a favor.
Sure Durant can be effective off the pick and pop, but thats what Thompson usually does and having Durant do it instead will be a down grade from Thompson...
Same can be said about him setting up picks the way Green does, he will be good but Green does it better...
So in the end, its fools gold, where the shots are being distributed differently, not more shots being created, as in the case with Whiteside grabbing more rebounds and being a force in the paint by blocking so many shots..
No I said you play them the same, and when healthy thats exactly what the Cavs did, pound them off the boards, make Curry play both ways, and attack them in the paint...You said gs and the Hawks were the same team remember
While on defense you stay focus on the pick and rolls, never losing site of your man...
If you was coaching against either the Warriors or the Hawks of last year, what would you do different while playing each team?I'm done
This involves critical thinking so you can emoji your ass out of this one, like a third grader...
To show I am fair and not on some dumb fan bullshit... One element that Durant brings to the table is that he should be able to save the legs of Curry and Thompson...
I've been preaching all along that if you get them to play both ways they tend to wear down towards the end of the game... Now with Durant they should be able to rest Curry and Thompson much better but not only that Green should be able to get some blow also...
This is not a big problem vs most teams but the Cavs specifically had a team that was designed to attack that chink in their armor, so on paper at least they should be better off...
I've been preaching all along that if you get them to play both ways they tend to wear down towards the end of the game... Now with Durant they should be able to rest Curry and Thompson much better but not only that Green should be able to get some blow also...
This is not a big problem vs most teams but the Cavs specifically had a team that was designed to attack that chink in their armor, so on paper at least they should be better off...
Roasted dat nigga real quick.Bottom line is ill trust jerry west and other great bball players analysis over yours..the fact that you are comparing team offenses that don't even run the same offenses and players that don't even play the same way is ridiculous but you will keep doing it
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