Brace yourselves stock market may slide again today I wonder if trump going to take credit for this

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Originally Posted by Grumpy ol' Man
What you are mistaking for grace and elegance were really a smooth talking con man. He, and she, are nothing but Anti-American racists who hate America, hate white people, hate police, and hate the military, just for starters. obama did everything in his power to divide America and bring her to her knees and the effects are still being felt. It's going to take time and hard work by our now good president to get this country back o track.
obama's only success was that he was a successful con man who still has ignorant suckers believing in him, even after all of the damage and illegal activities he was engaged in... Very sad indeed.


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...ny-you-wish-obama-still-24.html#ixzz56FTJSCca


So according to this cat what Obama did is still be felt but when you ask him about job growth and the stock market ?
 
When the Republicans Pass that Hideous tax bill they officially took over the economy Obama has nothing to do with this economy anymore.

True but that yokel isn't that refined.....and job growth continued and so did the market before the tax bill..

But they won't ever say Obama policies are continuing.They say thanks to Trump.Like we spent the last 8 years in recession
 
No one found it pretty peculiar that the market dropped 666 on Friday? Think that's some coincidence?
 
Stocks were pummeled on Friday and Monday. The Dow fell more than 1,000 points over two sessions. Here's what's going on.

1. Concerns that the Fed will raise rates

Stocks have been rising steadily since the election in part because the economy is so strong. Unemployment is historically low, and there are more open jobs than people to fill them.


Companies are starting to pay workers more to retain existing employees and attract new hires. Businesses will eventually have to raise prices on the stuff they sell to afford their growing payrolls. In economics, that's called inflation.

Though the economy has been growing steadily for almost nine years, inflation has remained stubbornly and mysteriously low. The Federal Reserve combats inflation by raising its interest rates. The central bank has been unable to significantly raise its interest rates over the past decade, fearing it could stymie the economic recovery and perhaps cause prices to fall.


The Fed planned on raising interest rates slowly this year-- just three times in 2018. But if inflation picks up, the Fed could raise rates more often and more steeply than it had planned.

2. Rising interest rates

When the Fed raises rates, the cost of borrowing money increases. That means companies have to pay more for their loans, which cuts into corporate profits. It also means Americans will pay more for mortgages and loans.

Another reason the stock market has risen so much over the past year has been the steady growth in corporate profits. Companies are healthy, and investors have rewarded them by pushing up their stock prices.

When interest rates rise sharply, stocks often fall. Investors worry that businesses' profit parade will slow down.

3. Worries about the bond market

Stocks have also been on a tear because they have been one of the only investments with a decent return. U.S. Treasury bond yields have been so low that many stock dividends are paying better.

But stocks are a higher-risk investment than bonds, which are backed by the United States Treasury. If bond yields start to rise, investors will want to take some of their money out of stocks and put it into safer bonds.

Sure enough, bond yields hit a four-year high Friday. The recent tax bill has forced the Treasury to borrow more money, which will put more bonds into play. A supply glut could devalue bonds. Prices and yields move in opposite directions, and bond buyers will want a higher yield (and lower price) to make it worth their investment.

Inflation is bad for bonds, too. If borrowing costs increase, bond investors will want more return -- a higher yield.

Attractive yields on a safer investment have made stocks suddenly less attractive.


4. Ugly politics

Politics has played a part in stocks' steady march higher, too. The Republican tax cut is great for corporate profits. Investors have rewarded companies' promises of bigger stock buybacks and dividends by raising their stock prices. Business confidence is on the rise, in part thanks to the Trump administration's push to cut regulation.

On Friday, the controversial release of a once-classified memo about the Russia investigation gave investors pause. Turmoil in Washington could be bad for business. It could create a logjam in Congress.

It's not top of mind for investors, but it's adding to their concerns.

5. Too far, too fast

Stocks have been rising pretty much in a straight line since November 2016, and that's not exactly healthy. Stock market analysts believe the stock market is long overdue for a 5% pullback or even a 10% correction.

A cooling-off period would be a good thing. It would make stocks cheaper and more attractive to investors, especially if the underlying companies are healthy, cranking out strong sales and profits.

The market finally began to come down to earth -- just a bit -- this week, and investors wonder whether this is the beginning of a correction. There could be a little groupthink taking place in the downturn.
 
I sent this earlier the rich people are taking the money and running or there is some big news is about to drop really big news
I'd go with really big news.

Futures already down 1500 also. If this continues overnight, will be more of the same tomorrow.
 
Yep. The bottom about to fall out. Smart money always leaves the market first. Trump decided to tie his wagon to the stock market and take credit for the increases which no president controls. Not sure what he and Sarah Sanders will say now.
 
Do you think smart investors are panicking? They diversified and going to get paid regardless. Just a few weeks ago, folks were talking about how shit was off to such a great start. Now they got the masses panicking. :smh:

Folks tried to tell people shit don't go up forever. Some been talking that a correction was incoming. And rich folks going to get richer off this shit.


So the equity market falls due to wage growth. A paradox that highlights the corruption of this system. Wage growth should increase disposable incomes, thus allowing for more spending on products or savings into investments. Instead, we have the opposite
 
no worries.. it will bounce back..

No need to start moving your holding to CASH at this pint..

HOLD THE LINE mudafuka.. Hold the line.. We gon be allright...

btw.. this is a good time to buy Alibaba ( BABA ) .. At $187.. its a strong buy.. in 6 months it will be at 235.. You wanna bet ? :rolleyes:
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That what they was telling muthafuckas back in October 1929 and October 1987 you rat soup eatin muthafucka!!! :angry:
 
U.S. Household Incomes: A 50-Year Perspective
by Jill Mislinski, 9/19/17

Last week the Census Bureau released its annual report on household income data for 2016. Last year the median (middle) average household income rose to $59,149, a 4.1% increase over 2015 and a record high. The median average income adjusted for inflation is also at a record high, above the peak of $58,882 set in 2000. The mean (average) household income set a new high of $83,143. More about that in another commentary. Meanwhile, let's take a closer look at the quintile averages, which dates from 1967, along with the statistics for the top 5%.

Most people think in nominal terms, so the first chart below illustrates the current dollar values for the six cohorts across the 50-year period (in other words, the value of a dollar at the time received — not adjusted for inflation). What we see are the nominal growth patterns over the complete data series. In addition to the five quintiles, the Census Bureau publishes the income for the top five percent of households. We've included a table to document the impressive year-over-year growth in 2016 for all six cohorts.





The next chart adjusts for inflation in chained 2016 dollars using a research variant of the Consumer Price Index, the CPI-U-RS, which is the CB's preferred deflator for inflation adjustment. In other words, the incomes in earlier years have been adjusted upward to the purchasing power of the most recent year in the series. We've also highlighted recessions to show the correlation of household incomes to the business cycle.



As for the cumulative household income growth by segment over the past 50 years, the adjacent table shows the real, inflation-adjusted, difference between 1967 and 2016.

To give us a better idea of the underlying trends in household incomes, we've also prepared a chart of the real percentage growth since 1967. Note in particular the growing spread between the top quintile (and especially the top 5%) and the other four quintiles. The growth spread began in the mid-1980s during the Reagan administration, the era of Supply Side Economics (aka "Reaganomics" and Trickle-Down Economics). As this chart illustrates, tax and other policy changes to benefit the wealthier households didn't have the heavily promoted trickle-down effect.



All of the cohorts in this analysis saw impressive increases in 2016, and the top three quintiles and top 5% hit record income levels in 2016. However, the two lower quintiles remain below their record highs in inflation-adjusted terms. The table below documents the percent change from the peak year. The list shows the two lower quintiles peak year: 2000 for the fourth quintile and 1999 for the bottom quintile.



It's important to understand that the data in the charts above is for the mean (average) income for each of these segments. For US households quintiles, the mean (average) income is higher than the median (middle of the range). We'll have more to say about this negative skew in a follow-up article on household incomes by age bracket.

They should stop reporting on the movement in stock markets. $100 today and $99 the next, based on a crystal ball predicting a future that has not arrived and may not. This type of analysis is prognostication after the event that sells papers and continually debases the word “investment”.

Those providing grist for that mill are similarly debased. The leverage in the system is much more of an effect than any fundamental shift in the value of companies or their assets. The corporate leverage on which is heaped the investors leverage. They set targets for inflation, they were not achieved, this perpetuated pessimism but caused leveraged investment using free money.

Now inflation is a whiff on the horizon which could flow into the pockets of workers that prop up the consumer system there is an analysis that companies are so finely balanced in profitability that such a result will diminish corporate values.

In fact it is possibly a knee jerk reaction from those so handsomely compensated for looking at their crystal balls (pun intended) they could not contemplate their third world maid earning another $5 per week
 
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