Boycott Black Woman Bashing.
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Mane, smh....
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Fascinating.
I can't give all of those quotes equal weight but some of them are just...
damn.
I can't give all of those quotes equal weight but some of them are just...
damn.
Black women will just have to learn to deal with it. Black men have to with it too. What can you do?
LoneStar29
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This video was created by one of the LSA sistren. I was around when it was created
good stuff
good stuff
Fascinating.
I can't give all of those quotes equal weight but some of them are just...
damn.
Did you see the bw who were killed or died by the hands of whites? There's got to be a way to fight for ourselves because we have too, and fight for our boys too. But hell our boys turn into the men who shit on us kill us commit violence against us.
Shit's out of wack
I think that's where Monie got it from. She's posting their now.
I did and I was uncomfortable with something as tragic as murdered women being lumped in with comedians and rappers saying ignorant shit. The second half makes the first half come off as flippant.
I also wasn't a fan of the presentation of comparing the coverage of Trayvon Martin's murder to lesser known murders/deaths/disappearances of some Black women. That's how the media is. Hadiya Pendleton got a lot of coverage and even had the First Lady speak at her funeral. There were far more Black boys murdered in Chicago than girls so, going by the thinking of the video, what made her different than all those boys.
+ being on BGOL sometime is like being in the 2nd grade. You got the classic boys are better than girls argument and vice versa, You got the bullying, you got your followers, and so on. The truth of the matter is no one should be bashing anyone in our community. No one groups bashing is more important than the others. It's ridiculous to think that someone somewhere isn't going to have a gripe with you. Just deal with it and be positive you know
I don't see it that way. But you're of course welcome to your view of things.
I see it as we've got to defend ourselves. And boycott those who spit on us and don't want us. It's not just about them saying the things they say. It's not a well he said this and he's JUST a comedian thing to me.
It's a he has a platform and people listen to him thing... it's a we're consumers of their products so lets no support them thing.
When Trayvon was murdered some of us began figuring out how to stop supporting white businesses. We're trying to figure out how to generate black money for ourselves. To stop giving whites our money because they don't care about us.
The same thing should be done with black men who shit on us. It's how i see it. The examples of the young females not getting coverage media or whatever is a male vs us thing. Because that's what it is. A male life is more valuble than a female life. And i'm not saying that our boys aren't valuble.
I think black girls are JUST as valuble as black boys. I saw that part of the video as a way to say look this is happening also.
Stop supporting those who shit on us. And become aware of the value of female lives. Trayvon and some other black males loss is tragic. It was very tragic for me. He was my sons.
But the women's loss of life was very tragic too. And only a few of us care about that. I don't know why the first lady did what she did. That's not my argument. And that's not the arguement the video was speaking of.
I see it as a bit of a wake up for all those of us who may care and maybe need some reminding.
LoneStar29
Banned
Exactly sis
its about not supporting those who show us disrespect and try to inflict pain on us regardless of how big or small it might be ... alot of these guys play themselves by biting the hand that feeds them ... there is power in our dollars
and the situation with the news stories is that some people feel the entire black community (men and women) come together when one of our boys is hurt but you rarely get the same response from the men when one of our young women is hurt
its about not supporting those who show us disrespect and try to inflict pain on us regardless of how big or small it might be ... alot of these guys play themselves by biting the hand that feeds them ... there is power in our dollars
and the situation with the news stories is that some people feel the entire black community (men and women) come together when one of our boys is hurt but you rarely get the same response from the men when one of our young women is hurt
rarely indeed. Most of the first things spoken of when it's a girl is somehow or another she put herself in the position to be killed. What she did wrong.
Heavenlywings77;13855999[B said:
Yeah it is.
Co sign the rest too but that part stood out to me.
That's not what happens, really. I used the Pendleton example to show how it's more of a crass marketing thing. We don't hear these women's stories because most often they don't get the right people involved. The right people would be high profile names like Sharpton or the popular morning shows like Tom Joyner or Steve Harvey. Martin's story was actually an old story until it got the attention of those national shows.
Now of course no one gets the coverage of White women but, looked at objectively, there's no Black male bias over Black women.
I like a good light skin joke so I can't be a hypocrite on a dark skin joke but I can't, for the life of me, see how Hart thought that joke would get any other response. It wasn't even funny.
Then, when he had to see his joke bombed and offended the fuck out of people, he did the exact wrong thing and hollered "I'm a comedian". Nigga, we know that. I don't judge folks on saying something fucked up and hurtful but on what they say when they see they're comment was hurtful is when their character reveals itself.
I think people had started the Cassidy boycott a long time ago.
Yeah it is.
Co sign the rest too but that part stood out to me.
That's not what happens, really. I used the Pendleton example to show how it's more of a crass marketing thing. We don't hear these women's stories because most often they don't get the right people involved. The right people would be high profile names like Sharpton or the popular morning shows like Tom Joyner or Steve Harvey. Martin's story was actually an old story until it got the attention of those national shows.
Now of course no one gets the coverage of White women but, looked at objectively, there's no Black male bias over Black women.
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No. I disagree. But it's futile to explain things to you from a black woman's perspective. You'll see it how you wish. The things you've said here show you may be incapable of doing it. But it's your view. So that's cool.
I love black women more than they love themselves. I think once they start respected themselves and stop trying to emulate other races it will get better. Didn't have to emulate the booty and now everyone is. But then they'll get the best weave available. for what? self esteem?
No. I disagree. But it's futile to explain things to you from a black woman's perspective. You'll see it how you wish. The things you've said here show you may be incapable of doing it. But it's your view. So that's cool.
Not being a Black woman, I can't see it from your perspective. I try to sympathize but I'm fully aware that I can't offer first person p.o.v.
But perception is not reality. Reality is reality.
I agree with the message... As a analogy I heard, if you are going to a deli and stand in line for a sandwich, and when its your turn, yours has a healthy helping of manure in it, while others are clean cut sandwiches, you shouldn't accept the item as a whole.. you shouldn't have to eat a shit while enjoying a sandwich like everyone else... its your money, so its your right to do as you please with it and not support it.
Black women have their battles to fight, to gain the respect which they deserve... no different than black men have to do the same... we might not be able to do it together due to circumstances which causes a silent battle between the two, but both working on their own issues may find equitable standing in order to do so...
Black women have their battles to fight, to gain the respect which they deserve... no different than black men have to do the same... we might not be able to do it together due to circumstances which causes a silent battle between the two, but both working on their own issues may find equitable standing in order to do so...
LoneStar29
Banned
It would be helpful if we didnt jump in to create obstacles for each other as well or try to block on each others achievements
i agree,, and while we are at it, Black women should stop supporting these bs "housewives" reality shows that depict yall as outta control, emotional idiots, who wear so much weave, wigs & make up, that yall look like gotdamn circus clowns,, why no mention of that
Fuzzy_McNut
Banned
This is not a one sided problem because black women are also guilty of verbal attacks against black men. As a whole we seem to have lost respect for each other. I will however place the larger blame on us men.
We don't stand united, we don't support each other nor do we show respect each other. An its usually petty nonsense that seems to be tearing us apart and keeping us apart. I try to avoid bashing. I see the damage its doing to us. SOL is a perfect example. Where are all the ladies that used to be active within this forum? I don't blame them for leaving why stay some place only to be berated?
Now this is where I place fault upon you women. Whatever happened to being women and ladies? Where did they all go? Today your looked upon and spoken of as bitches. (that used to be reason for a fight) Where was your outrage? You women not only accepted the title but started calling yourselves bitches. So IMO women are as guilty as the men because you allowed this to happen. You should've demanded more from men and demanded your respect. The bigger question is how do you regain what you've lost?
I don't look down on women never have. It doesn't matter their status, homeless, ho, junky, however what I see in women today kind of justifies the unwanted attention your (mostly) all are receiving. The bottom line to all this is if you want respect you have to earn that respect. Present a better image of yourselves chances are you'll get better feedback. Is presenting yourselves as ladies that difficult. I'm not saying you need to dress like a Sunday school teacher. I'm just saying a little class on your part will work wonders.
The change has to start somewhere. If you demand better what choice do we men have but to step up our game?
BTW I'm in support of your boycott.
We don't stand united, we don't support each other nor do we show respect each other. An its usually petty nonsense that seems to be tearing us apart and keeping us apart. I try to avoid bashing. I see the damage its doing to us. SOL is a perfect example. Where are all the ladies that used to be active within this forum? I don't blame them for leaving why stay some place only to be berated?
Now this is where I place fault upon you women. Whatever happened to being women and ladies? Where did they all go? Today your looked upon and spoken of as bitches. (that used to be reason for a fight) Where was your outrage? You women not only accepted the title but started calling yourselves bitches. So IMO women are as guilty as the men because you allowed this to happen. You should've demanded more from men and demanded your respect. The bigger question is how do you regain what you've lost?
I don't look down on women never have. It doesn't matter their status, homeless, ho, junky, however what I see in women today kind of justifies the unwanted attention your (mostly) all are receiving. The bottom line to all this is if you want respect you have to earn that respect. Present a better image of yourselves chances are you'll get better feedback. Is presenting yourselves as ladies that difficult. I'm not saying you need to dress like a Sunday school teacher. I'm just saying a little class on your part will work wonders.
The change has to start somewhere. If you demand better what choice do we men have but to step up our game?
BTW I'm in support of your boycott.
I'm not a lady. I'm a me. I don't like to be boxed. I don't like to be packaged. I'm a human being. I have blood. I have nerves. I have neurons. I have a brain. I can think. I can create. I can Make things. The greatest thing and something i miss almost heartsickeningly, is that my husband is 1 of the only men i've ever known who accepted me as me. And then APPRECIATED me as ME. Being told to be a lady is almost a put down for me. It's restrictive.
I have no issue with women who want to be that way. But saying be a lady? Makes my eye twitch. Because it says to me "you're not good enough as you are. Your degrees, your intellect. Your will. Your creativity. Your focus and determination. Are worthless because you have a vagina so you must be THIS way."
In this day and age as a woman you have to be hard. This is not the time of our forebears. Times have changed and people have to change with it. When i was coming up women would be mad about being called a bitch. Being called a bitch meant you have an attitude. You're behaving in a way a man doesn't like. Basically. When i came up if i didn't let you fuck me i was a bitch. This would come with an implied threat of violence.
Being a bitch now is a mark of power. It's a claiming of power. Yes i'm a bitch. Yes i'm not going to do what you want me to do. I'm not going to bend to your will. And i'm not going be what you want me to be. I'm a bitch. I have strength. I can do things. Words change over time.
Regain? Who says regaining anything from that era is a good idea? The world is changing. You need to adapt.
There are levels of respect. To me. I respect you as a BLACK person first. I respect your right to life. I respect your right to be left alone. I respect your right to pursue your happiness. Women don't get even THIS level of respect. This is not something that has to be earned. This is the most basic level.. and in my eyes this is what all black people are due 1 another.
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Yep.
The only place I would disagree is the first sentence. There is either respect or there is not, no qualifications. If you do this
I
we're good.
And you're right, Black women don't even get that (you just said "women" and you were right but I'm being specific).
I don't think they ever have. The ways they've been disrespected take different forms but it's the same shit.
source: Washington Post
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Harry Belafonte challenges Phi Beta Sigma to join movement to stop oppression of women
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Actor, singer and human rights advocate Harry Belafonte called on Phi Beta Sigma during the fraternity’s Centennial Founders’ Day Gala Saturday night in Washington to join a worldwide movement to end the violence and oppression against women
Belafonte, who is well known for his historical contributions to the civil rights movement, was keynote speaker during the gala at the Renaissance Hotel in Washington. Earlier that night, Belafonte was inducted as an honorary member into the fraternity, one of the largest men’s organizations in the world.
“My contribution as a new member of the fraternity is to sucker all of you into coming with me and man up and stand up. When the time comes, we will be in touch and you will be informed to join us in the this movement in the 21<SUP>st</SUP> century,” Belafonte told a crowd of more than 1,000 people. “Let us use this century to be the century where we say we started the mission to end the violence and oppression of women.”
Belafonte, 86, who for more than 70 years has fought against racial oppression, recently created an organization called Sankofa Justice & Equity Fund, a nonprofit focused on social justice and helping marginalized people throughout the world.
“Sankofa is a bird, a symbol that comes out of West African mythology,” Belafonte told the crowd. “It is a Guinea hen with its beak and its neck gracefully turned to the rear of its body and it is retrieving an egg from space. Mythology says the truth is forever accessible. If you think you have lost it, it can be retrieved.”
Belafonte challenged the fraternity to use its motto of “service to do the thing that has now been adopted by Sankofa,” with projects in South Africa, the Congo, Nigeria, Berlin, London, Paris and New York.
Activists are “gathering now to say, ‘Man up. All men who are stepping into this moment to say, ‘We will accept the responsibility for what we have done in the abuse of women and we acknowledge that abuse and we are here to declare ourselves as the tenders to the future to never, ever let our children be the abusers of women in our lifetime.’ ”
The crowd rose in applause.
Belafonte urged those gathered to join “the 21st century mission to focus on the plight of the savagery and brutalization of women in some parts of the world — not only the brutalization of those in war– but the brutalization of domestic application…. brutalizing women continually. It is men who created violence against women. It is men who should end the violence against women.”
Jonathan A. Mason, international president of Phi Beta Sigma, said, “I accept your challenge and we will make a difference in the community.”
Actor Malik Yoba, the gala’s master of ceremonies, told the crowd: “That was rich. We just heard from someone who has lived history.”
I wrote about this issue for The Washington Post in a 2006 article telling the story of a young woman who was abducted by the Lord’s Resistance Army in northern Uganda, where the girl spent years in captivity as a sex slave. ”Pretty girls are given to older commanders as wives; the others are often killed,” Grace Akallo told me while visiting Capitol Hill, where she urged Congress to stop the civil conflict in Uganda.
In 2004, I also interviewed political rape victims in Haiti, where human rights lawyers contended women were targeted in the political violence. In 2008, The Post ran the story of Lisa F. Jackson, whose chilling documentary, ”The Greatest Silence: Rape in the Congo,” debuted on HBO that year. In the documentary, Jackson talked to a group of men who told her rape “was necessary” to weaken their enemies.
“If she says no, I must take her by force. If she is strong, I’ll call some of my friends to help me,” a man told the filmmaker. “All this is happening because of the war. We would live a normal life and treat women naturally if there was no war.”
A woman told Jackson that rape victims often must flee their villages to hide their shame. ”After we’ve been raped, our men don’t want us anymore. We are considered half-human beings,” a woman confided to Jackson and her camera.
During the gala, the fraternity, founded at Howard University on Jan. 9, 1914, also honored Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.); civil rights activist Al Sharpton; civil rights leader C.T. Vivian; former congressman Edolphus Towns (D-N.Y.); Freedom Rider Hank Thomas; advocate against homelessness and hunger Elisabeth Williams-Omilami; and Clayola Brown, president of the A. Philip Randolph Institute.
Each speaker challenged the crowd to do more to help the poor, the hungry, those in prison and those who are oppressed.
“That space between the haves and the have-nots is getting wider,” Williams-Omilami, president of Hosea Williams Feed the Homeless & Hungry, told the crowd. “Atlanta is the worst city for homeless children in the country. I feed 61,000 people a year…. I will continue the fight to feed our hungry children … because it is our job and that is what Sigma means.”
Thomas, one of the original Freedom Riders, recalled being trapped in a burning bus as an angry mob sealed the doors to prevent the riders from escaping. Their choice was to stay on a burning bus or flee into a mob where they knew they would be beaten.
“Memories don’t leave like people do,” Thomas told the gala crowd. “They always stay with you.”
Thomas added: “When they ask me why I joined the Freedom Riders, I will tell them with the eloquence of my grandfather, ‘I saw something wrong and I done something about it.’ “
Vivian challenged the fraternity to do more to help the men and women in prison. “We’ve got a million black men in jail, and we are not doing anything about it,” Vivian said. “If you save those who can be saved you will have done the maximum in society… The reason we have any organization is to save the rest of us.”
Lewis, who received the Sigma Centennial Lifetime Achievement Award, recalled traveling into the South as a Freedom Rider during “Bloody Sunday” in 1965 in Selma, Ala., where he was beaten.
“I just tried to help,” said Lewis, who led marchers across the Edmund Pettus Bridge. “When people say nothing has changed all these years later, I say, ‘Come and walk in our shoes.’”
But Lewis, who was the youngest speaker during the 1963 March on Washington, said there is still work to be done to end oppression. “To all the brothers of Phi Beta Sigma, I say find a way to get in trouble. Get into some good trouble.”
<HEADER class=entry-header>
Harry Belafonte challenges Phi Beta Sigma to join movement to stop oppression of women
</HEADER>
Actor, singer and human rights advocate Harry Belafonte called on Phi Beta Sigma during the fraternity’s Centennial Founders’ Day Gala Saturday night in Washington to join a worldwide movement to end the violence and oppression against women
Belafonte, who is well known for his historical contributions to the civil rights movement, was keynote speaker during the gala at the Renaissance Hotel in Washington. Earlier that night, Belafonte was inducted as an honorary member into the fraternity, one of the largest men’s organizations in the world.
“My contribution as a new member of the fraternity is to sucker all of you into coming with me and man up and stand up. When the time comes, we will be in touch and you will be informed to join us in the this movement in the 21<SUP>st</SUP> century,” Belafonte told a crowd of more than 1,000 people. “Let us use this century to be the century where we say we started the mission to end the violence and oppression of women.”
Belafonte, 86, who for more than 70 years has fought against racial oppression, recently created an organization called Sankofa Justice & Equity Fund, a nonprofit focused on social justice and helping marginalized people throughout the world.
“Sankofa is a bird, a symbol that comes out of West African mythology,” Belafonte told the crowd. “It is a Guinea hen with its beak and its neck gracefully turned to the rear of its body and it is retrieving an egg from space. Mythology says the truth is forever accessible. If you think you have lost it, it can be retrieved.”
Belafonte challenged the fraternity to use its motto of “service to do the thing that has now been adopted by Sankofa,” with projects in South Africa, the Congo, Nigeria, Berlin, London, Paris and New York.
Activists are “gathering now to say, ‘Man up. All men who are stepping into this moment to say, ‘We will accept the responsibility for what we have done in the abuse of women and we acknowledge that abuse and we are here to declare ourselves as the tenders to the future to never, ever let our children be the abusers of women in our lifetime.’ ”
The crowd rose in applause.
Belafonte urged those gathered to join “the 21st century mission to focus on the plight of the savagery and brutalization of women in some parts of the world — not only the brutalization of those in war– but the brutalization of domestic application…. brutalizing women continually. It is men who created violence against women. It is men who should end the violence against women.”
Jonathan A. Mason, international president of Phi Beta Sigma, said, “I accept your challenge and we will make a difference in the community.”
Actor Malik Yoba, the gala’s master of ceremonies, told the crowd: “That was rich. We just heard from someone who has lived history.”
I wrote about this issue for The Washington Post in a 2006 article telling the story of a young woman who was abducted by the Lord’s Resistance Army in northern Uganda, where the girl spent years in captivity as a sex slave. ”Pretty girls are given to older commanders as wives; the others are often killed,” Grace Akallo told me while visiting Capitol Hill, where she urged Congress to stop the civil conflict in Uganda.
In 2004, I also interviewed political rape victims in Haiti, where human rights lawyers contended women were targeted in the political violence. In 2008, The Post ran the story of Lisa F. Jackson, whose chilling documentary, ”The Greatest Silence: Rape in the Congo,” debuted on HBO that year. In the documentary, Jackson talked to a group of men who told her rape “was necessary” to weaken their enemies.
“If she says no, I must take her by force. If she is strong, I’ll call some of my friends to help me,” a man told the filmmaker. “All this is happening because of the war. We would live a normal life and treat women naturally if there was no war.”
A woman told Jackson that rape victims often must flee their villages to hide their shame. ”After we’ve been raped, our men don’t want us anymore. We are considered half-human beings,” a woman confided to Jackson and her camera.
During the gala, the fraternity, founded at Howard University on Jan. 9, 1914, also honored Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.); civil rights activist Al Sharpton; civil rights leader C.T. Vivian; former congressman Edolphus Towns (D-N.Y.); Freedom Rider Hank Thomas; advocate against homelessness and hunger Elisabeth Williams-Omilami; and Clayola Brown, president of the A. Philip Randolph Institute.
Each speaker challenged the crowd to do more to help the poor, the hungry, those in prison and those who are oppressed.
“That space between the haves and the have-nots is getting wider,” Williams-Omilami, president of Hosea Williams Feed the Homeless & Hungry, told the crowd. “Atlanta is the worst city for homeless children in the country. I feed 61,000 people a year…. I will continue the fight to feed our hungry children … because it is our job and that is what Sigma means.”
Thomas, one of the original Freedom Riders, recalled being trapped in a burning bus as an angry mob sealed the doors to prevent the riders from escaping. Their choice was to stay on a burning bus or flee into a mob where they knew they would be beaten.
“Memories don’t leave like people do,” Thomas told the gala crowd. “They always stay with you.”
Thomas added: “When they ask me why I joined the Freedom Riders, I will tell them with the eloquence of my grandfather, ‘I saw something wrong and I done something about it.’ “
Vivian challenged the fraternity to do more to help the men and women in prison. “We’ve got a million black men in jail, and we are not doing anything about it,” Vivian said. “If you save those who can be saved you will have done the maximum in society… The reason we have any organization is to save the rest of us.”
Lewis, who received the Sigma Centennial Lifetime Achievement Award, recalled traveling into the South as a Freedom Rider during “Bloody Sunday” in 1965 in Selma, Ala., where he was beaten.
“I just tried to help,” said Lewis, who led marchers across the Edmund Pettus Bridge. “When people say nothing has changed all these years later, I say, ‘Come and walk in our shoes.’”
But Lewis, who was the youngest speaker during the 1963 March on Washington, said there is still work to be done to end oppression. “To all the brothers of Phi Beta Sigma, I say find a way to get in trouble. Get into some good trouble.”
Don't give a fuck what Harry Belafonte has to say.
Why?
I don't look favorably upon whites or black people who marry white. Very against. Not going to stop it. But i'm entitled my own view. I don't take people seriously who marry interacially and try to speak on black issues.
I am not very appreciative of her eyebrows.
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