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Andre Berto's Side Not Interested in Selcuk Aydin Fight

BoxingScene.com was advised by Andre Berto's promoter, Lou DiBella, that there is currently no interest in a fight with Selcuk Aydin (20-0, 15KOs). On Monday, the WBC ordered Berto (26-0, 20KOs) to defend his welterweight title against Aydin, who won the WBC's silver title with a controversial June decision over Ionut "Jo-Jo" Dan. DiBella and Aydin's co-promoters, Don King and Ahmet Öner of Arena Box, have until September 17 to reach a deal before the fight heads to a purse bid.

DiBella says the fight is close to impossible to make because HBO has no interest in approving Aydin as an opponent for Berto's next fight.

"HBO doesn't care about Aydin. And Berto's next fight will be on HBO," DiBella told BoxingScene.com. "And I just watched Aydin's fight with "Jo Jo" Dan and he didn't do any favors for himself with that performance. You can even make an argument that he didn't win the fight. Nobody knows Aydin and nobody cares."

DiBella would like to place Berto in an HBO televised tripleheader on October 2, but sources have informed BoxingScene that Berto's return may possibly get pushed to a date in November.

Former 140-pound champion Andriy Kotelnik still appears to be a frontrunner to get Berto. I've been told WBA 154-pound champion Cornelius Bundrage turned down the opportunity to fight Berto. Bundrage also turned down a hometown battle with Ronald Hearns, which is a big fight in Detroit.

King promotes Kotelnik, and co-promotes Aydin. Don't be surprised if King makes a deal for Aydin to step aside in order for a Berto-Kotelnik fight to move forward.
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http://fighthype.com/pages/content8220.html

BRADLEY VS. ALEXANDER IN JEOPARDY OVER PURSE SPLIT?

Devon's first title defense at home drew 10,000! That's more than all of Bradley's home defenses put together. It's clear that Bradley needs Devon if he wants to get out of the 1,800 seat ballroom that he's being promoted in,' stated Kevin Cunningham, trainer and manager of WBC & IBF jr. welterweight champion Devon Alexander, as he reached out to FightHype.com to comment on the current status of negotiations for a jr. welterweight unification with WBO champion Timothy Bradley. Although reports suggest that a January bout between Alexander and Bradley is nearly finalized, it appears as though there's a dispute brewing over the purse split... read the rest in the link.
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Both of them need this and they need to make it work


http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/08/16/manny-pacquiao-antonio-margarito-will-land-at-cowboys-stadium/

Antonio Margarito to be Licensed for Manny Pacquiao Fight in Dallas
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Jean Pascal: Wanted Man

http://www.badlefthook.com/2010/8/17/1627641/jean-pascal-wanted-man

Following his upset victory over Chad Dawson to win the Ring Magazine light heavyweight championship on Saturday, suddenly everyone is looking for a piece of the new king.

Take Carl Froch, who told livefight.com that he'd be willing to fight Pascal in Montreal. Those two had a great fight in December 2008 at super middleweight, with Froch out-pointing Pascal in Nottingham.

"A fight with Pascal would have all the ingredients and the Bell Centre looked very good indeed. So long as Marlon Wright didn't referee it then that would be an option. Or we could do it here in the UK as he has won over a lot of fans this side of the pond too. British boxing fans voted our last meeting the fight of the year, so you just know it would sell like hot cakes here too. I'd be up for it in New York or Vegas even - anywhere outside of Germany would be great."

Froch is set to fight Arthur Abraham on October 2 in stage three of the Super Six World Boxing Classic. A win for Froch would put him through to the semifinals of the tournament, making a fight with Pascal impossible to make any time soon, unless Froch wanted to drop out, which I'd find highly unlikely at that point of the tournament, given that there will be good guaranteed money. But a loss to Abraham might knock Froch out of the running (it also might not). If it did, a fight with Pascal would be an excellent way to make money right away. The two have repeatedly expressed great admiration and respect for one another since their fight.

Then there's Tavoris Cloud, who beat Glen Johnson the week before Pascal-Dawson, is also up for a trip to Montreal, as he told BoxingScene.com's Rick Reeno:

"If Pascal wants to do another unification, I'm ready to fight him. We can do it in Montreal. We can do it in the United States. It don't matter. They say he's number one. I'm number two. Let's get it on. I'm ready to fight Pascal in Montreal. He has a similar style to mine. We have a similar body build. I think I'm more of an inside fighter than he is. I think it would make for a great fight."

This was to be expected, of course. Pascal is now the big dog at 175, and he has a building that can draw money. Cloud is a good fighter, but he's got no drawing power yet, as the Florida native spent most of his career fighting in Illinois on small cards, and has never built up a fanbase. Now with Don King, who knows money if he knows anything, Cloud is at least showing a willingness to travel, and the understanding that a fight in Montreal would be the biggest money he could get right now. There are those who would like to see Cloud face Dawson next, including HBO's Larry Merchant, but the sad fact is Cloud-Dawson will not sell tickets anywhere, and I'm guessing there's a good chance Cloud isn't rushing to give Dawson a fight since Dawson dropped a title belt in the past rather than face Cloud.

But along with being the king and the money man at 175 thanks to Montreal being a great fight city, Pascal is not an invincible or invulnerable fighter. I'm betting everyone sees ways they could beat Pascal. It's easier said and drawn up than it is done, but as good as Pascal is, he definitely has flaws. Combining that, the money, and the chance to be the man at light heavyweight, you come up with a great scenario that everyone's going to want to jump on.

Pascal himself is, as you'd likely expect, ready to do whatever he needs to. BoxingScene.com reports that Pascal will not "chase" a fight with fellow Montreal-based star Lucian Bute, which would be an absolutely massive fight in Montreal. Bute was in attendance on Saturday.

As for the likely rematch against Dawson, the clause was not an immediate rematch clause, so interim fights can be taken by both fighters. Dawson may not want to risk anything, but Pascal could in all honesty fight a second-tier contender and make good money in Montreal before facing Dawson again.
 
:lol: the term not interested doesnt fly against an undefeated fighter

this shit is really getting sad out here

a bunch of scared to lose ass niggas in boxing these days

20-0...i bet you not interested nigga :smh:

who started this ducking the next best fighter shit anyways?

floyd has ducked many but the fighters he says hes better than havent

i only saw SRL duck one man and thats Aaron Pryor

Never saw Ali duck anyone

Dont know enough about SRR
 
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Alaskanredman said:
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=30125

Andre Berto's Side Not Interested in Selcuk Aydin Fight

BoxingScene.com was advised by Andre Berto's promoter, Lou DiBella, that there is currently no interest in a fight with Selcuk Aydin (20-0, 15KOs). On Monday, the WBC ordered Berto (26-0, 20KOs) to defend his welterweight title against Aydin, who won the WBC's silver title with a controversial June decision over Ionut "Jo-Jo" Dan. DiBella and Aydin's co-promoters, Don King and Ahmet Öner of Arena Box, have until September 17 to reach a deal before the fight heads to a purse bid.

DiBella says the fight is close to impossible to make because HBO has no interest in approving Aydin as an opponent for Berto's next fight.

"HBO doesn't care about Aydin. And Berto's next fight will be on HBO," DiBella told BoxingScene.com. "And I just watched Aydin's fight with "Jo Jo" Dan and he didn't do any favors for himself with that performance. You can even make an argument that he didn't win the fight. Nobody knows Aydin and nobody cares."
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How do you say this and then want to put Berto in with Kotelnik, who just lost in his debut on HBO and was only meant to be an "opponent" for the rising Devon Alexander? They stand on better ground if they stick with Aydin wasn't impressive in his last fight instead of his marketability.

DiBella would like to place Berto in an HBO televised tripleheader on October 2, but sources have informed BoxingScene that Berto's return may possibly get pushed to a date in November.

Former 140-pound champion Andriy Kotelnik still appears to be a frontrunner to get Berto. I've been told WBA 154-pound champion Cornelius Bundrage turned down the opportunity to fight Berto. Bundrage also turned down a hometown battle with Ronald Hearns, which is a big fight in Detroit.

King promotes Kotelnik, and co-promotes Aydin. Don't be surprised if King makes a deal for Aydin to step aside in order for a Berto-Kotelnik fight to move forward.
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I said this and certain people acted like I was making shit up. But how is Brundage turning down high profile fights like that? What's he thinking about?

http://fighthype.com/pages/content8220.html

BRADLEY VS. ALEXANDER IN JEOPARDY OVER PURSE SPLIT?

Devon's first title defense at home drew 10,000! That's more than all of Bradley's home defenses put together. It's clear that Bradley needs Devon if he wants to get out of the 1,800 seat ballroom that he's being promoted in,' stated Kevin Cunningham, trainer and manager of WBC & IBF jr. welterweight champion Devon Alexander, as he reached out to FightHype.com to comment on the current status of negotiations for a jr. welterweight unification with WBO champion Timothy Bradley. Although reports suggest that a January bout between Alexander and Bradley is nearly finalized, it appears as though there's a dispute brewing over the purse split... read the rest in the link.
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Both of them need this and they need to make it work
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When Manny and Floyd fight over money, you're talking about millions and millions of dollars but these two are talking about thousands and thousands and need to stop fucking around. Manny and Floyd are in their 30s and are in the last days of their careers, boxing will be hungry for new stars and these are the guys in the drivers's seat but the only way for that to happen is for them to fight important fights in front of big crowds. Alexander should get home court (though I'm against St. Louis fighters fighting in St. Louis, they always underperform) and give Bradley a 51/49 cut. Put that fight on a stacked undercard and more people will pay for that than will pay to see Mosley-Mora or Marquez-Diaz II.

http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/08/16/manny-pacquiao-antonio-margarito-will-land-at-cowboys-stadium/

Antonio Margarito to be Licensed for Manny Pacquiao Fight in Dallas
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And the sun came up this morning. Some shit you know is going to happen.
Now let's wait for him to announce he's going to fight at 150.
 
Rick Ronson said:
:lol: the term not interested doesnt fly against an undefeated fighter

this shit is really getting sad out here

a bunch of scared to lose ass niggas in boxing these days

20-0...i bet you not interested nigga :smh:

who started this ducking the next best fighter shit anyways?

floyd has ducked many but the fighters he says hes better than havent

i only saw SRL duck one man and thats Aaron Pryor

Never saw Ali duck anyone

Dont know enough about SRR
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Yeah, but Luis Resto exposed why. Most insiders must have known Panama was juicing Aaron up. Arguello was on his way to a knockout before Panama gave Aaron "the bottle I mixed".
 
As for Bradley/Alexander, give Alexander the split he wants. Bradley should take the fight and realize if he beats Alexander, he's taking out one of his main rivals at 140, and after watching his "performance" against Kotelnik, I'd be licking my chops if I were Bradley. I'm not high on Alexander at all.:smh: Can't win a fight with just a good jab.

As for Berto, I could care less who he's going to fight, unless it's a solid test, I think he's overhyped anyway and should be rematching with Collazo, so his crying over no one wants to fight him is just:smh: Avoided only because he brings in no money. After Kotelnik's fight waith Alexander, I'd much rather watch Berto fight him than some unknown. At least Kotelnik has been in the top 10 at 140 for a while and raised his stock a bit in the Alexander fight which alot of people felt he won.
 
merce77 said:
As for Bradley/Alexander, give Alexander the split he wants. Bradley should take the fight and realize if he beats Alexander, he's taking out one of his main rivals at 140, and after watching his "performance" against Kotelnik, I'd be licking my chops if I were Bradley. I'm not high on Alexander at all.:smh: Can't win a fight with just a good jab.

As for Berto, I could care less who he's going to fight, unless it's a solid test, I think he's overhyped anyway and should be rematching with Collazo, so his crying over no one wants to fight him is just:smh: Avoided only because he brings in no money. After Kotelnik's fight waith Alexander, I'd much rather watch Berto fight him than some unknown. At least Kotelnik has been in the top 10 at 140 for a while and raised his stock a bit in the Alexander fight which alot of people felt he won.
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Berto talking about no one wants to fight him...:lol: At least when Williams said it (back when it was true), he had some legit beef. Berto's just delusional. Paul Williams should sue him for gimmick infringement.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
I said this and certain people acted like I was making shit up. But how is Brundage turning down high profile fights like that? What's he thinking about?


When Manny and Floyd fight over money, you're talking about millions and millions of dollars but these two are talking about thousands and thousands and need to stop fucking around. Manny and Floyd are in their 30s and are in the last days of their careers, boxing will be hungry for new stars and these are the guys in the drivers's seat but the only way for that to happen is for them to fight important fights in front of big crowds. Alexander should get home court (though I'm against St. Louis fighters fighting in St. Louis, they always underperform) and give Bradley a 51/49 cut. Put that fight on a stacked undercard and more people will pay for that than will pay to see Mosley-Mora or Marquez-Diaz II.
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I didn't under the Brundage shit myself.

Alexander should get he money and home turf cause he is the draw. These niggas can learn from the pascal win.... Beat a hyped nigga and people take notice. If you want money fights that is how it is done.
 
merce77 said:
As for Bradley/Alexander, give Alexander the split he wants. Bradley should take the fight and realize if he beats Alexander, he's taking out one of his main rivals at 140, and after watching his "performance" against Kotelnik, I'd be licking my chops if I were Bradley. I'm not high on Alexander at all.:smh: Can't win a fight with just a good jab.

As for Berto, I could care less who he's going to fight, unless it's a solid test, I think he's overhyped anyway and should be rematching with Collazo, so his crying over no one wants to fight him is just:smh: Avoided only because he brings in no money. After Kotelnik's fight waith Alexander, I'd much rather watch Berto fight him than some unknown. At least Kotelnik has been in the top 10 at 140 for a while and raised his stock a bit in the Alexander fight which alot of people felt he won.
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I'll give Alexander a pass cause he could of had an off night but those judges should have been stoned in the street.

Berto v Collazo showed me a lot. I got a lot respect for both fighters. I always thought Collazo was underrated. I think Berto displayed his flaws but fought hard enough to get the win. The rematch should of happened though.

Agreed with the rest though.
 
Alaskanredman said:
I didn't under the Brundage shit myself.
Alexander should get he money and home turf cause he is the draw. These niggas can learn from the pascal win.... Beat a hyped nigga and people take notice. If you want money fights that is how it is done.
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Yeah, Brundage is trippin'. He really needs someone to ask him upfront "Who the fuck do you think you are?"
It's one thing when a guy says "there's no money" in fighting another fighter. I might not like it, but I intellectually understand (the same way people on unemployment turn down much less paying jobs) but when a cat in Cornelius' position can't say that. Shit, there's no money in fighting him, he needs those two paydays.
With a few exceptions, 2010 isn't even close to 2009.
 
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/08/19/promoters-agree-50-50-split-for-tim-bradley-devon-alexander/

Promoters Agree: 50-50 Split For Tim Bradley-Devon Alexander

A proposed Jan. 29 clash between southpaw WBC and IBF junior welterweight (140 pounds) titlist Devon Alexander (pictured above, at left) and WBO counterpart Timothy Bradley will feature a 50-50 split, and is closer to becoming a reality after Thursday's four-hour meeting at HBO's headquarters between promoters Don King and Gary Shaw, and two of the cable giant's highest-ranking officials in sports.

The negotiations involved Shaw, who represents Bradley, and King, who handles Alexander, as well as HBO President of Sports, Ross Greenburg, and, the network's Senior Vice President of Sports, Kery Davis. "They went great," according to Shaw.

"HBO made us an offer that I accepted and that Don King accepted. Now we have to go back to the fighters and see if they'll accept the offer. If they do, then the fight is on. If they don't, then there will be no fight," said Shaw. "The fight is absolutely, 100 percent a 50-50 split. I don't discuss money, and I won't discuss any of the other terms except to say that it's a 50-50 split. Both sides are equal partners."

The 23-year-old Alexander (21-0, 13 knockouts) is coming off of an HBO-televised, Aug. 7, unanimous decision over former WBA champ, Andriy Kotelnik (31-4-1, 13 KOs), which drew more than 10,000 fans to his hometown, Scottrade Center in St. Louis, Mo.

The 26-year-old Bradley (26-0, 11 KOs), of Palm Springs, Calif., is coming off of last month's unanimous decision over welterweight (147 pounds) Carlos Luis Abregu (29-1, 23 KOs) of Salta Salta, Argentina, in an HBO-televised, non-title bout before his hometown crowd at Agua Caliente Casino, Rancho Mirage, Calif.

Besides the two hometowns of the participating fighters, New Orleans and Washington, D.C. apparently were also considerations.

"I've done other fights with Don, so Don King and I working together works. There's no problem between myself and Don King making a fight," said Shaw, who, with King, was treated to the executive dining room.

"We had the same agenda trying to make the fight, and there were times that things came up that I didn't agree with, and I got very vocal in how I felt," said Shaw. "And Don did what he felt was right, but it was a pleasant meeting with both Ross Greenburg and Kery Davis. We had all of the artillery."
 
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