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bigirl said:
Who do you think controls the record execs? I made a post on Tavistock earlier today. THEY control the whole record industry, Hollywood, TV, EVERYTHING. Nobody can "blow up" unless they go with THEIR program.


i know i know i know, i was just pointing out the power record execs have. Shouldn't suprise anyone that they're just middle men.
 
http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/used-artists.htm

How Artists Are Used by the Illuminati
- by Wes Penre, 2002 -


Have you ever asked yourself why some artists have reached the Top and stayed there, although their music or acting is way under the average? How can someone who does not know anything, or very little about music become a famous rock star? And how come some people with lots of talent and ideas never stand a chance? Bad luck? No, the “BIG” rock stars and actors are heavily used by the Illuminati. Some of them are programmed from the day they were born to become puppets for the Elite, and some of them are picked up later in life because they have “the right attitude” and can be worked with. Many of those young people are introduced into the occult; secret orders like the Freemasons, the OTO, the Rosicrucian’s, Scientology and others. Within those cults they are taught how to think and (re)act in order to enhance the Agenda.


Amos Lee

Occult "soul sucking" is a common practice in the music industry on many levels of the business. The occultists feed on the artist by sucking his/her soul out until there is nothing more to suck and the soul is totally "dry", then they leave the artist to "die" - mentally or physically; abandoned, often poor and with a drug addiction. The singer/songwriter Amos Lee described this pretty well. This is what he says in the song "Soul Suckers:"

Did you believe them when they told you
they discovered you
Anything was free as long as you do what
they tell you to
Think it's true
but nothing could be further from the truth my love

Did you ever listen when they told you
to change your name
Nobody wants honesty when looking at a perfect fame
play the game
but nothing could be further from the truth my love

Nothing is more powerful than beauty in a wicked world
play it girl, play it girl

Does it make you feel good
when they tell you what you want to hear
after they suck all your soul
that's when they disappear
disappear forever like a prince in your little fairytale
And you find they put your soul on sale

Nothing could be further from the truth my love
nothing is more powerful than beauty in a wicked world

This is how the Elite have planned it with regards to using art to help out with achieving the goals:

1. The Illuminati is planning a new phase in their attempt to take over the world. Much of the planning is political and financial and is happening behind the scenes, but two of their most powerful instruments are Hollywood and the Music Industry, because that is the way they can reach the masses. So they are deciding to set a new trend to promote their latest strategy.

2. They use mind controlled people (musicians/actors/producers etc.) to set this trend, promising them wealth, drugs, groupies and/or whatever they want, in order to be satisfied. Those “artists” are heavily promoted with techniques learnt from Nazi Germany, which had developed the most extraordinary techniques to manipulate the masses that this world has ever seen. L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, confessed in public (to his disciples) that he used Goebbels’ Propaganda Machine to get people into the cult (and keep them there). The Illuminati have no problems promoting whatever they want, and have people responding like they want them to.

3. The “Trend-Makers” (The Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Sex Pistols, Eminem, Curt Cubain, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin etc.) set the direction for the new trends, and people will start worshipping those new idols.

4. Other (often more talented) musicians follow up on that trend and create their own version of the new idea. Those musicians also get contracts with the Record Companies, and can be ordinary people like you and me, who have never been close to physically tampered with in mind control programs like MK ULTRA and Monarch Mind Control. Those musicians (and actors) don’t have to be severely mind controlled to unknowingly help out with the Agenda of the Elite. They just jump on the same bandwagon as the trend-makers, and the snowball effect is starting. Thus, the Illuminati, who basically invented the trend, can sit back and watch. We, the citizens, are doing the rest for them.

5. Other gifted musicians and actors, who are creating art that goes outside the Agenda – or against it – have no chance to get their message out broadly, because nobody at the top of the Industry (where the money is) is willing to promote them. It is the same pattern as within politics. Only those who are promoted by the super-wealthy Elite stand a chance. The International Bankers (The Illuminati) are the ones who own the Industry. As soon as someone is creating something (may be a new type of music-trend, a new label with contrary ideas or something similar) that opposes what is next on the Agenda, the Illuminati is quick to buy it out. If the Company refuses to sell, they are threatened. We all have seen Mafia Movies. That is exactly how it works.


The Good News

In spite of how hard the people in power try to manipulate the masses and control the minds of those we are listening to, the human spirit is strong. I lived together with a person who had been viciously abused like this by the Secret Government, but she started remembering thing she was “not supposed to remember”. And I’ll tell you – those people, who have been used and abused, who start to remember, are the most valuable people we have at this point, because they can tell us first hand what is going on and who is pulling the strings. Those people are strong weapons in this ongoing spiritual war.
 
How Pop & Rock Music is Used to Manipulate Us
by Wes Penre, June 13, 2005

On occasion I get an angry letter where the person calls me both this and that name for writing popular music down. The most common objection is that "rock music is rebellious. It does exactly the opposite from what you claim on your crappy website". Something to that effect. Like I've said elsewhere, I understand that reaction, because in a corrupt world we like to believe there is something we can hold on to that is working against suppression, oppression and corruption. I too wish it was rock music, but now I know better.

People say the music of the 60's was an awakening and a way to oppose the oppressive war mongers within the Government. But let me tell you this: that was exactly what the Illuminati-owned record companies wanted us to believe. Instead it gave us drugs, obsession on free sex and eventually apathy. The consequences were quite devastating. After the apparent awakening in the 60's and early 70's, the youth fell down into a deep "coma", often lost in drugs and disillusions, thinking there is no way to change things. The hippie movement had failed and most of the true hippies gave up and started feeding the system they had opposed by becoming bankers, doctors, lawyers etc...

But what was REALLY happening? Well, what people in general don't think about is that music is vibrations. What frequency the music vibrates on is directly determining what emotions and reactions you get from it. Classical music has its own vibration, which often lifts us up spiritually. Rock music has another frequency, hip-hop another and rap music yet another. Do we really think we have a choice as of what to listen to, as a society? Are we really that blind that we think that we, the consumers, are setting the trends? No, my friends, the trends are set by the Illuminati owned music industry, where they know exactly how frequencies work - they have the best scientists working for them, so what can we expect? One day, pop and rock is what they want us to listen to, the next day the trend is punk rock, then rap and then back to rock in an endless stream. Almost within a blink of an eye, the music you listened to yesterday is now not hip anymore and you are not supposed to listen to it, unless you are a nerd or something. They, the Illuminati-owned music companies, are the ones who decide what we want to listen to, and don't get fooled to believe it's anything else than that. The music they produce vibrates on the frequency they want us to vibrate on for the moment to enhance the New World Order Agenda! And that's it. They want to keep us on a certain frequency, where they can control us as a whole.

Let's look at this example. The other day I noticed in the local paper that a now aged David Lee Roth is coming to town pretty soon. First of all, the huge picture on the front of the paper showed a David Lee Roth, about 15 years younger. Of course, that sells better than showing him the way he looks now. However, how did they expose him? Well, on the picture he was dressed in tight leather pants a la Jim Morrison, and instead of having a zipper, he had tiny strings to keep his pants together. Well, the strings apparently didn't do a good job, because the part of the pants where the zipper should have been was wide open all the way down to the root of his penis. Then, of course, his shirt must have accidentally popped all the buttons, because his chest was totally bare, and just by coincidence his pose was sexually offensive.

For you who have listened to Van Halen know what kind of music they played and what kind of songs David Lee Roth was singing. The low vibration rock riffs together with Roth's play on leather sex [sadomasochism] sure gives a certain message, doesn't it? If nothing else, the music creates aggression and keeps us trapped with sex and drugs. Where is the freedom with that? Does it liberate us and make us more enlightened, or the opposite? There is no secret that Van Halen and David Lee Roth especially, were involved in wild drug and sex orgies. You might say that is their business, and if they weren't famous musicians and opinion leaders, I would agree. Now, mass media made sure everybody knew about their behavior, and the full effect of their music became full circle - they set, or rather made sure, the correct rock trend continued as planned (sex, drugs and rock & roll). The record company was thrilled, I'm sure, happy to have such dedicated musicians on their payroll.

What I am trying to say here is that we are being used. If you think that we are the ones to decide whom to listen to and who is going to make it BIG because WE decide which music to buy, you are mistaken. It's called marketing, and they are geniuses in that field. Rock music was NEVER meant to enlighten us or make us rebels. If you think about it and do your own research - find out who owns the music business, and who owns the labels on which the artists you like make their recordings? Do you think that those guys would let rock musicians enlighten us? No, music is all about vibrations, and THEY decide which frequency the music should vibrate on for the moment.

Many people now accept that the Illuminati is behind the New World Order, and they realize what is being done to us all, but some of the same people who accept this as a fact, refuse to accept that the music industry is corrupt. Come on, it is once again the same people pulling the strings! Anyone can check that out for themselves by doing their own research. It's no secret, and it's just a matter of following the thread.

We also need to remember that those people who are pulling the strings are not thinking like you and I. For most of us it is quite hard to confront evil; we rather say the particular evil event does not exist, or "it's probably not that bad". It's normal human behavior, and this makes it very difficult for us to see what's really going on. The ones that orchestrate all this know how the human psyche works and they are capable of producing something (may it be music or something else) pretending that the purpose for it is something else than what it actually is, and most of the times we swallow the bait...

Like I've said elsewhere on this website, I am not trying to make anyone stop listening to music, I am just trying to make people aware. I am still listening to some of this music I am here revealing, just because I like it. However, with this new insight, I don't buy into the effects they are covertly trying to create. Knowledge is power and what you know for certain can't negatively effect you in the same way it once did..
 
One secret to what live rock music (and other musical styles as well) are doing, is very dangerous to innocent minds.

The human brain "thinks" as cycles of brainwaves, at approximately 8 "thoughts" per second - look it up on any "medical science" web page. The eyes "see" 20 to 30 separate actions per second, but the brain only uses the "best" eight to send to the conscious mind. The subconscious gets the rest, subliminally and wholesale.

Notice most live music shows incorporate video screens with their music, at 30 frames per second (standard American television resolution, look it up on any "TV repair" web site). They color 8 of the 30 "movie" frames differently, so THEY choose which ones you think about, and which are just "absorbed" as PROGRAMMING. (Hollywood has used this trick ever since Disney "invented: it ; it's now illegal in television commercials).

When bass tones or bass drums or lights (or all, in a concert) use this 8-per-second speed (which they do all three in most live shows) it does the same thing to the brain that hypnosis does - break up analytical thoughts so that certain mispronounced ("hard to understand") lyrics go right to the subconscious. Add some illegal drugs and some sacrificial blood in the "mosh" pit, make a circle with a pentagram onstage using the stage lights and positions of the musicians within it, place your big speakers for 13 separate points of origin of musical sound, and you have a full-on BLACK MASS, complete with sacred geometry (the ancient "magic" secret that unlocks the chains (bonds) of the fallen angels (demons) that Jesus was casting out of sick people, also known as "disease" and "demonic possession").

Also, the musical tones (chords) used along with those lyrics are dissonant in modern music, making certain automatic emotions happen in the mind that attaches to the lyric message. This can cause emotional stress in a person, which is "resolved" in a song's ending, with a "happy" message as the resolution of the song ... this IS how PROGRAMMING WORKS in most mind control victims.

Backwards masking is old news, it's not very effective compared to newer recording techniques, such as modulating the background sounds and drums (as above) at 7.83 Hz, to create a state of hypnosis in the listener. This is why most recording artists are the victims of their own "music"!

By the way, a color television screen is a great big lens, scattering potentially dangerous x-rays into your living room. Picture tubes contain radioactive elements in their electron guns (sub-atomic particle accelerators, to make "colored light" on the phosphor-based picture-screen inner coating). Look it up on any TV repair web site, or any encyclopedia under "Cathode Ray Tube". The danger becomes less, as you move away from the center-forward screen angle (the viewing angle).

It's spelled c-a-n-c-e-r, and pronounced "prime time". You won't find that fact in the reference books, but you can follow the obvious trail of evidence left by the sciences used in your television screen "tubes". Ask Marie Curie, she discovered all that .... oh wait, she died of cancer from high energy particle-ray exposure, as have many Americans since about 1948. Funny thing, that.

You may quote me ANONYMOUSLY on any or all of this (no name or email please), as long as the intended meanings remain the same. This is also a warning to help others evaluate "Christian rock" bands, when they perform onstage.


http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/how-mc-in-rock-music-works.htm
 
smokedacane said:
How many of our political leaders are under mind control?

[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/bPoSl2x4oKY[/flash]



Pause the video at 3:08 :smh: freaky, I'am not even sure that is really her........... :confused:
that is really scary so is the way billy boy looks at the beginning. i have been saying this for years that all the elections are fixed and they know who will be president years in advance.
 
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Wake Up!!!!!!!!!!

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Anglo-American Satanists

The best-organized Satanist forces operating presently inside the United States include the following prominent organizations:
THE LUCIS TRUST

This is the leading, putatively respectable Britain-based Satan cult (it worships Lucifer). The Lucis Trust, which runs the only religious chapel at the New York United Nations headquarters, The Temple of Understanding, was originally founded as the Lucifer Trust, in London, in 1923. The Lucis Trust associated with the UNO is the New York affiliate of the British organization. The name was changed from Lucifer Trust, to Lucis Trust, to make the nature of the organization less conspicuous.

The Lucis Trust’s leading sponsors include the following prominent figures:
Henry Clausen, Supreme Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, Southern District Scottish Rite Freemasons
Norman Cousins
John D. Rockefeller IV The Rockefeller Foundation The Marshall Field family
Robert McNamara
Thomas Watson (IBM, former US Ambassador to Moscow) The United Lodge of Theosophists of New York City
U. Alexis Johnson, former Undersecretary of State
Rabbi Marc Tannenbaum, American Jewish Committee
Prominent front-organizations sponsored by the Lucis Trust, include the following:
The Theosophical Order of Service (founded by Annie Besant in1908)
The Theosophical Society (founded by Helena P. Blavatsky in 1875)
The United Nations Association
The World Wildlife Fund UK
The Findhorn Foundation
Greenpeace International
Greenpeace USA
Amnesty International
The Nicholas Roerich Society (chief connection to Russian mysticism, spirituality)
The Anthroposophs of Rudolf Steiner
The Rudolf Steiner School [these could not be genuine followers of Steiner]
UNESCO
UNICEF
The American Friends Service Committee
THE ORDO TEMPLI ORIENTIS (OTO)

This is today’s best-known of the hard-core, British-based Satanist cults. Like the Lucis Trust, the OTO is a direct off-shoot of the work of Britain’s leading twentieth-century Satanist, Theosophy leader Aliester Crowley. OTO enthusiasts claim this organization is an offshoot of Templar freemasonry, and hint at very influential protection from among Templars very high in British freemasonry.


THE WICCA CULT

The WICCA cult came to the surface early during the post-war period, as a legalized association for the promotion of witchcraft. It is the leading publicly known international association of witches in the world today.

In the United States, WICCA’s outstanding sponsor is the New York Anglican (Episcopal) diocese, under Bishop Paul Moore. Officially, New York’s Anglican Cathedral of St. John the Divine has promoted the spread of WICCA witchery through its Lindisfarne center. The late Gregory Bateson conducted such an operation out of the Lindisfarne center during the 1970s.

No later than the 1970s, and perhaps still today, the crypt of the Cathedral of St. John the Divine, is the headquarters for solemn ceremonies of the British (Venerable) Order of Malta. Key figures, such as Gregory Bateson’s former spouse, Dame Margaret Mead, associated with that British order, have been associated with projects in support of the Satanist "Age of Aquarius" cause.

For obvious reasons, U.S. witches have chosen Salem, Massachusetts, as their national center. One of the most important operations of these witches is their coordination of the hardcore of U.S. astrology rackets.


THE AGE OF AQUARIUS

The "Age of Aquarius," or "New Age," is the generic name adopted by the modern Satanist movement. The best-publicized among the founders of the Age of Aquarius movement include Fyodor Dostoevsky, Friedrich Nietzsche, Alex Muenthe (of Capri notoriety), and Aleister Crowley. Most Aquarians trace the origins of modern Satanism to Nietzsche and Crowley.

Anti-Christ cultist Nietzsche announced that the twentieth century would see the end of the Age of Pisces, which Aquarians associate with the figures of Socrates and Christ; Nietzsche prophesied that the New Age would be the Age of Aquarius, which he identified with the Satanic figure Dionysos. Crowley announced himself publicly a devotee of Nietzsche’s New Age cult in his Vienna Theosophy magazine, near the beginning of this century, and indicated as his preferred choice of name for Satan.

Among hard-core insiders, the New Age models its dogma on the Magis’ cult of Mithra, as Nietzsche did. The cult has notable affinities to the Bulgarian-Cathar Bogomil cult (from which the slang term "buggery" is derived). The New Age’s most celebrated historical figure, its choice for the original "incarnation" of the Anti-Christ, is the Roman Emperor Tiberius who ordered the execution of Christ. [Some Roman emperors, most notably Caligula, became possessed by being initiated without being suitably prepared.] Adolph Hitler and Hermann Goering were among the notable figures who followed this cult.

The best-known coordinating-center for the Age of Aquarius project in the U.S.A. today is Palo Alto, California’s Stanford Research Institute, whose Willis Harman is the relevant leading personality. See Harman disciple Marilyn Feruguson’s 1980 Aquarian Conspiracy for a popular exposition of Harman’s views and program for subversion of the United States. Ferguson is accurate when she reports that the Fabian Society’s H.G. Wells (World War I boss of British intelligence) is a key figure of the Aquarian Conspiracy. Also key are Wells’ ally, Bertrand Russell, and such Russell cronies as Robert M. Hutchins (Chicago University, Ford Foundation, Fund for the Republic, Aspen Institute, and the project).

Both Margaret Mead and her husband Gregory Bateson were close collaborators of Russell and Hutchins from no later than 1938. The brothers, Aldous (Hollywood) and Julian (UNO) Huxley were collaborators of H. G. Wells, and were recruited to Crowley’s Satanist cult during the late 1920s.


SATAN ROCK

Since the launching of the Beatles as an international project via TV in 1963, "rock" has been the most influential recruiter to Satanism. Rock was created, and is still coordinated by Crowley’s followers and by the OTO network, in cooperation with WICCA. It is, not so incidentally, also the Satanist’s biggest money-maker, and believed to provide the chief logistical support for deployments and other activities of the OTO-WICCA efforts world-wide.

There is nothing spontaneous or accidental about "rock." It is a product of classical studies of the ancient Phrygian terrorist cult of Satan-Dionysos, the model for the Roman Bacchic cults of similar characteristics. Crowley’s control of the "rock industry" has been documented by a team of [private] investigators, who have also noted, that in addition to the Satanist lyrics, Satanist messages embedded sublimely in rock recordings are a key feature of this subversive operation.

The "rock rhythm" itself is copied from the old Dionysian-Bacchic cults. Even without the drugs and sexual orgies which are characteristic features of hard-core rock affairs, repeated, frequent, hours-long exposure to constant repetition of "rock rhythms" produces lasting, drug-like effects on the mind of the victim. Reducing sexual practices to the level of bestiality, is a crucial feature of Satanism in all historical periods studied, from Phrygian Cybele-Dionysos cult-period onward.
From western continental Europe, among the threats to the U.S. from this quarter, the two leading open centers for hard-core Satanism today, are Turin, Italy (where actress Elizabeth Taylor’s "Live AIDS" project attempted to sponsor an aborted Satan-rock festival), and Lausanne, Switzerland.


The Satanist Mind

Satanists already have numerous victims. Most of the sexual and related atrocities perpetrated upon "disappeared" infants and other children, are done as part of the rituals outlined in manuals of Satanist organizations. A leading police association has received expert estimate, that of all known murders, one in five is a ritual murder, like the ritual London assassination of Italy’s Roberto Calvi, perpetrated by members of Satanist cults. The "Son of Sam" murders in New York, and the Cobb County-based cult operations in the so-called "Atlanta child-murders," fit into this pattern.

Satanism is not "just another nutty occult fad." The mind of the Satanist is pure evil; the Satanist is a former person who has been transformed into something no longer human. It begins like drug-addiction; the prospective recruit to Satanism "gets into something" on a playful impulse, but then finds himself or herself gripped by compulsions which he or she can no longer control.

Drugs and other special circumstances may be significant collateral features of the initiation, but not necessarily. The key is "letting oneself go," into the depths of acting-out impulses which combine sexual impulses and rage as a unity, and expressing this form of "pleasure" in the form of an act which violates an important precept of one’s own conscience.

Nietzsche’s writings, especially toward the last period of life preceding his mental breakdown, address these special sorts of emotions, and refer implicitly to terrible obscene acts as the prospective fulfillment of such impulses. Nietzsche recognized these impulses as Satanic --dionysiac-- in quality. [Dionysiac activity, or wild abandon, by itself leads to non-demonic possession. Becoming demonically possessed requires killing, torturing, or tormenting someone with a neutral or positive attitude.]

Ordinarily we think of the criminal mind as representing a person whose goals are based on "normal human impulses," but whose choice of means is immoral. Doing something illegal is not necessarily immoral; the useful definition of the criminal mind, is the person inclined to prefer immoral means as short-cuts to some goal usually not inconsistent with normal human impulses. In the case of the Satanist, we touch upon something way beyond such a mere criminal mind.

Imagine a criminal mind which has undergone a curious transformation. Perhaps, formerly, this fellow was an habitual thief, even of that sort of twisted mind which delighted in occasions he might have imagined he had pretext to exert the power of life or death over some chance victim on the scene of his crime. Yet, up to that point, robbery or kindred results were always the prompting of his criminal activity.

Now, he has changed. Crime is no longer motivated by the impulse to employ cruel means for personal gain. Instead, the pleasure of the sense of power realized in employing viciously cruel means, becomes an end in itself. This form of criminal pleasure becomes a blend of rage and sexuality. Jaded appetites create the mental state in that man, that he must do something more monstrous than he has done before, to realize the desired level of orgiastic pleasure from the evil deed. Evil for the purpose of doing evil, has become for him, a goal in and of itself. This man has become a beast, a virtual Satanist.

That is the state of mind which Satanism seeks to develop in its initiates. It might begin with an ordinary sexual act performed under the influence of an ugly state of mind. Soon, something much more degraded becomes a need for the prospective initiate’s rapidly jaded appetites. In contrast to the healthy mind, which seeks always to become better in what is being mastered, for the initiate to Satanism, a sense of need develops, to seek to muster oneself to do something much worse than one has ever done before. Satanic cults organize that degraded process of self-degeneration. The potential for endemic incidence of individual bestiality within society, is transformed into an organized, institutionalized form of social behavior.

The tradition of the "Black Mass," points to the mechanisms of Satanism as such. Nietzsche’s instruction is much to the point. Perform some really monstrous act of blasphemy, and associate that blasphemous doing with some sort of degraded, orgiastic pleasure.

Go back to ancient Mesopotamia, whence Satanism was transmitted to western Europe. The relevant figure of Satanism is not a male, but a female figure. The male figure --Satan, Baal, Lucifer, and so on--is a subordinate figure; the female principle of evil is pre-dominant. Hence, Satan’s mother, the "Whore of Babylon," known otherwise as the Chaldean Ishtar, the Caananite Astarte, Isis, Venus, or the Phrygian Cybele.

The ritual of the priestesses of Ishtar was an obscene "religious service" which concluded with the priestesses’ fornicating with the congregation. Hence, "Whore of Babylon," and the associated position of Ishtar, Athtar, Astarte, Isis, and Venus as the patron goddess of prostitution.

This satanic cult-practice was introduced to Mesopotamia from pre-Aryan India [which was Inanna/Ishtar’s assigned domain - see Sitchin’s Wars of Gods and Men]. The so-called "Harrappan" culture, featuring the Earth-Mother and fertility goddess Shakti and her satanic male figure Siva, established a set of colonies in the Middle East. The Sumer established as a colony by what the local semites named "the black-headed people" (Dravidians), was a Harrapan colony. There, among the semites, Shakti became known as Ishtar. In the Harrapan colony of Sheba-Ethiopia, Shakti became known as Athtar.

In the Caananite ("Phoenician") offshoot of Harrapan colonizing, she became known as Astarte. The Hellenic cults of Isis and Osiris, were offshoots of the Harrapan cult of Shakti-Siva, by this route. When the same cult spread to an Indo-european people, the Phrygians, Shakti-Siva assumed the Indo-european forms of Cybele and Dionysos (day-night). Apollo and Lucifer are variants of the name for Satan-Osiris-Dionysos. [Ishtar was ambitious.]

Among the Caananites, for example, Satanism expressed itself in such forms as the worship of Moloch, with the included custom of making a human sacrifice of the first-born of each marriage. Notably, that Caananite tradition is featured in the modern Satanists’ ritual sexual and homicidal rituals upon infants and children used as human sacrifices.

By combining the means by which men and women are degraded into potentially satanic forms of beasts, as rituals associated with Satanism practiced as an "anti-religion," large-scale Satanic movements are developed through systematic proselytizing.

The result of this initiation, as we have already stressed, is no human being, but a former human being transformed into something which is not human.

Modern liberals and others frown on reports of savage witch-hunts from earlier centuries. Usually, the special British COINTELPRO operation, run in Salem Massachusetts as a covert operation against the independence of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, is commonly referenced. A better comparison is the proliferating of Satanist movements during the fourteenth century; these witches were actually sub-human, Satanist beasts, who represented that sort of mass threat to the population of that period.

So, the population, as its only defense against a genuine Satanic force of that sort, hunted them down and sought to wipe them out. Not for nothing, does the Old Testament warn, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." The witches of the old Middle East and fourteenth-century Europe were very real, very evil witches, no longer human, but murderous beasts.


Modern Witchcraft

The modern spread of witchcraft in English-speaking nations, began during the sixteenth century, in the setting of imported cabalist and Rosicrucian cults built up around Oxford and Cambridge. Francis Bacon and his secretary Thomas Hobbes were part of this movement. The endemic inculcation in Satanism which this prompted in seventeenth-century England, exploded after the accession of King George I, in the form of the Hell-fire Clubs which proliferated among degenerate English nobility during the long Liberal prime ministry of Hugh Walpole.

During the Stuart Restoration period, the pro-satanic rosicrucian and cabalist cultism around the Stuart court seized upon the case of Robert Bruce to reorganize the cult in a newform.

Robert Bruce had been the leader of a group of Satan-worshipping (Baphomet) Templars, who had fled to Scotland, away from the angered justice of the Papacy and the King of France. What they brought with them, was the Templars’ exploitation of the Cathar (Bogomil) tradition in the region of Toulouse and Albi, to build up the syncretic sort of Satanic worship the Templars had acquired in the Middle East. The Papacy had enough of this, and the King of France acted to shut down Templars by the means customary in those times. A group of Templars under Bruce fled to Scotland, and after some initial difficulties, made themselves the lords of the place.

The character of the Stuart court is illustrated by the characterization of one Stuart government of that period as the "Cabal." In his history, Macauley offers an amiable description of the affair. During this century, when the chest of Isaac Newton’s laboratory papers was opened and examined, the content of Newton’s actual "scientific work" turned out to be a selection of lurid and rather insane experiments in "black magic." The circles around Francis Bacon and Hobbes were, as we say today, "a prize collection of real kooks."

So, the Templar mish-mash of Bogomil Gnosticism blended into Hashishin Satanism, caused Bruce’s Templar credentials to be viewed as suitable myth-building material for the taste of the Stuart kooks of the period. The Liberal aristocracy of Britain became a principal concentration of this filthy stuff. When the Liberals came to full power, under Walpole, this Liberal stuff came out in such form as the proliferating Hell-Fire Clubs. That tradition was cultivated under the Second Earl of Shelbourne’s puppet prime minister, William Pitt the Younger, with Satanic figures such as the powerful Jeremy Bentham in the fore.

Satanism gained new ground under the protection of Liberalism and Romanticism during the nineteenth century. In England, the more virulent new forms surfaced around Oxford University's John Ruksin and the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood. Out of this came theosophy, British "guild" socialism, the Fabian Society, Bertrand Russell, H. G. Wells, and Aleister Crowley -- Satanists all.

This spilled over into the United States, notably in the circles of putative "Great Awakening" evangelist Johnathan Edwards, and his protégé, Princeton Hell-Fire Club activist Aaron Burr. During the late nineteenth century, the sort of spoon-bending kookery associated with such figures as Oliver Lodge and A. Conan Doyle spilled generously among the wealthy anglophile liberals of the United States.

In short, this sort of witchery has been endemic over the centuries. The difference is, that what was endemic has become epidemic.

To Journalism on Satanism page: http//www.econcrisis.homestead.com/JournalismOnSatanism.html
 
by Steve Van Nattan
from CephasMinistryLibrary Website

In past programs, we have stated that the New World Order could not have been realized had it not been for the intense activities of various secret societies throughout the world. We have mentioned one world-wide secret society, the Brotherhood Of Death Society, whose symbol is the skull with two crossed bones. The German Brotherhood of Death Society is the Thule Society.

Adolph Hitler joined this society in 1919, becoming an adept under the leadership of Dietrich Eckhart. Later, the Thule Society selected Hitler to be their leader of the New World Order, as Eckhart revealed on his deathbed, saying,
"Follow Hitler; he will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. I have initiated him into the Secret Doctrine, opened his centers in vision, and given him the means to communicate with the powers."
(Trevor Ravenscroft, The Spear Of Destiny, p. 91).
In August, 1990, President George Bush announced that the world had now entered into a New World Order. Shockingly President Bush is an adept in an American Brotherhood of...
the Yale Skull and Bones Society. As we stated earlier, Bush's New World Order is virtually identical with Hitler's; the key connecting point is the common membership in their respective Brotherhood ..
(Behold A Pale Horse, p. 81; Introduction To The Order, p.7).
We will study this connection in depth today. Let us begin with a quick overview of the Thule Society, beginning with a study of its practices and relevant history.
They were Satanists who practiced Black Magic -- this means that they were.
"solely concerned with raising their consciousness by means of rituals to awareness of evil and nonhuman intelligences in the universe; and with achieving means of communication with these intelligences."
(Ravenscroft, p. 161).

Concentrate on that seemingly innocent word, rituals. Christians equate a ritual to a church service, thereby not understanding its occultic meaning. The New Age Dictionary defines ritual as a "ceremony to restore balance with nature...and bring back lost harmony and sacredness."

Remember we are dealing with the Satanic world, where good is called evil and evil good. The sacred-ness mentioned here is a Satanic sacredness. Rituals literally are proscribed activities designed to allow demonic power to flow through the participants. These activities are proscribed chants, formula wordings, and carefully planned actions. As we noted last week, the effect is devastatingly powerful, as demonic force pours through the participants, delivering a counterfeit spiritual experience which literally transforms their lives. Never skip over the word ritual, as it is a word of Satanic power.

Thule members practiced a form of Sexual Magic derived from a lodge of which Aleister Crowley was a member. Crowley was recognized as the foremost worshipper of Satan in the 19th Century. "The origin of this...medieval magic...can be traced to a Freemason, Robert Little, who founded the Societas Rosicruciana in 1865... (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 164-5).

While the actual sexual perversions which were practiced are too offensive to share, the results are not. Author Revenscroft stated that "indulgence in the most sadistic rituals awakened penetrating vision into the workings of Evil Intelligences and bestowed phenomenal magical powers." (Ibid. p. 167). This is the Thule Society.
Ravenscroft records its effect upon Hitler,
"...sexual perversion took a central place in [Hitler's] life... a monstrous sexual perversion was the very core of his whole existence, the source of his mediumistic and clairvoyant powers, and the motivation behind every act through which he reaped a sadistic vengeance on humanity."
(Ibid., p. 171).
Eckart's final act was to initiate Hitler into,
"a monstrous sadistic magic ritual... after which he was sexually impotent. Hitler's impotency had a deep psychological foundation. He knew sexual fulfillment through the extremes of sadism and masochism..."(Ravenscroft, p. 155, 173).
This impotency delivered a final devastating blow to Hitler's psychological foundation, finally making him into the sadistic murderer that history knows.
Thule society believed in "communication with a hierarchy of Supermen -- The Secret Chiefs of the Third Order". (Ibid) The quality which make these beings supermen was occultic spirituality. Further, they believed in Madame Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, which teaches that certain superman had survived the destruction of Atlantis with their higher levels of consciousness intact. These supermen were Aryans.

These two beliefs combined into one through the Thule Society and Hitler, culminating into the Nazi Death Camps. (Ibid, p. 166). When one group of people incorporate into their spiritual belief structure that they are inherently superior to another group of people, it is inevitable that genocide will be attempted as soon as possible.

The Thule Society regularly held occultic seances, during which time they communicated with demons who were either masquerading as a dead person or who were just appearing as their guiding spirits. Dietrich Eckart, Alfred Rosenberg, and Adolph Hitler invoked the Anti-Christ into manifestation at the mediumistic seances of the Thule Group in Munich. (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 168)

Eckert believed he had been told by his guiding spirit he would have the privilege of training the coming Great One, the Anti-Christ. From the beginning of their association, Eckert believed Hitler was Anti-Christ. Therefore, Eckert spared no occultic knowledge, ritual, or perversion in his attempt to fully equip Hitler for the role. Once the training was completed, Hitler believed he was,
"born anew with that super-personal strength and resolution he would need to fulfill the mandate ... ordained for him."
(p. Ravenscroft, p. 93-4)
Hitler literally equated this with the Christian claim to be born again.
Now, let us look at the Skull and Bones rituals and beliefs. Little is firmly known about Skull and Bones, because their secrecy since they were established in 1833 is as complete as any society in the world. However, they possess all the requirements of a true secret society.
They were formed in secret and all their activities are carried out secretly.
Membership is by invitation only. Potential members are carefully screened as to suitability before they are invited to join.
The first night of the new member, who is called an initiate, is critically important. The initiate swears total obedience and loyalty to the secret society. This pledge is bound by serious oaths, some of whom would be deadly if actually carried out. The first night is also critically important as it bounds the initiate to the society by means of ritual, oaths, and confessions.
The Skull and Bones also incorporates sexual activities into their practices.
"The death of the initiate will be as frightful as the use of human skeletons and ritual psychology can make it..."
(Esquire Magazine, "The Last Secrets of Skull and Bones", Ron Rosenbaum, p. 89).
Sexual perversion is part of ritual psychology. Ron Rosenbaum, author of the Esquire Magazine article, stated that on initiation night, called tap night,
"...if one could climb to the tower of Weir Hall, the odd castle that overlooks the Bones courtyard, one could hear strange cries and moans coming from the bowels of the tomb as the 15 newly tapped members were put through what sounded like a harrowing ordeal..."
(Esquire, September, 1976, p. 86).
Further, [initiates]
"lay naked in coffins and tell their deepest and darkest sexual secrets as part of their initiation."
(Esquire, p. 85).
These experiences in the coffins incorporated sexual pain and resulted in being born-again, into the Order, as we mentioned above. (Cooper, p.95) Powerful force charges through the participants of these ceremonies, transforming their lives dramatically. This type ritual is classic Satanism. Anton LaVey states, in his book The Satanic Rituals: Companion To The Satanic Bible, (p. 57)
"The ceremony of rebirth takes place in a large coffin... This is similar to the coffin symbolism that...is found in most lodge rituals."
Make no mistake about it: Any organization which utilizes this coffin ritual to simulate rebirth is practicing Satanism, including Skull and Bones.

The Skull and Bones believes that on the night of initiation, the initiate,
"dies to the world and be born again into the Order..."
(Esquire Magazine, September, 1977, p. 89).
Remember Hitler's belief that he had been born anew after his ritualistic initiation and training? This term is a common one in occultism. During the 1988 Presidential Campaign, a TV reporter asked Vice-President Bush if he were a Christian. Bush initially stammered, but then said, "if you mean born again, then, yes, I am a Christian".

As born-again Christians carry out the ritual of water baptism by immersion to demonstrate that they have died to the old way of life and have been reborn into a new life, the occultists have their ritual to demonstrate the same life transformation. Rosenbaum continues his expose' of the born-again experience,
"then it's into the coffin and off on a symbolic journey through the underworld to rebirth, which takes place in room number 322. There, the Order clothes the newborn knight in its own special garments, implying that, henceforth, he will tailor himself to the Order's mission."
(Ibid., p. 89, 148).
This ritual description is as occultic as any I have read, and truly reveals the Skull and Bones as occultic.

One of the most sobering facets of this counterfeit born again initiation ritual is that the initiate swears to an allegiance to the Secret Order that transcends any allegiance later in life.

Author Bill Cooper captures this disturbing fact most succinctly,
"...Members of the Order (Skull and Bones) take an oath that absolves them from any allegiance to any nation or king or government or constitution, and that includes the negating of any subsequent oath which they may be required to take. They swear allegiance only to the Order and its goal of a New World Order...according to the oath Bush took when he was initiated into Skull and Bones, his oath of office as President of the United States means nothing."
(Cooper, Behold A Pale Horse, p. 81-82).
Since the oath as President occurred after the Oath to Skull and Bones, it is not worth the paper on which it is printed. That kind of hold is powerful. Indeed, as Ron Rosenbaum began the research necessary to write his article for Esquire, he was warned about the power of Skull and Bones.
"The power of Bones is incredible. They have their hands on every lever of power in the country."
The only thing which is important to the Skull and Bones is their goal of a New World Order. In conjunction with this understanding, remember one other Secret Society belief, i.e., the ends justify the means.

As Rosenbaum continued his research, he found definite links between Bones and the Bavarian Illuminists. The Bavarian Illuminists were part of the original Masters of the Illuminati. First, Rosenbaum discovered documents which detailed the origins of Bones back to Germany.

These documents stated, "Bones is a chapter of a corps of a German University..." The document described at length its relationship with this German Secret Society (the Thule Society) which lead to the founding of the Skull and Bones in 1832.

Secondly, Rosenbaum discovered that, "above the arched walls above the vault of the (Bones) sacred room, #322", is a painting of skulls surrounded by Masonic symbols. Above this painting is the slogan, in German, which means,
"Who is the fool, who the wise man, beggar, or king? Whether poor or rich, all's the same in death."
This means that only the works which one does in this life is what matters; in death, all men share the same fate. This statement is very consistent with the teachings of Secret Societies, showing their Works-oriented philosophy.

Thirdly, Rosenbaum discovered a,
"haunting photograph of the altar room at one of the Masonic lodges at Nuremberg that is closely associated with Illuminism. Haunting because at the altar room's center, approached through an aisle of hanging human skeletons, is a coffin surmounted by...a skull and crossed bones that look exactly like the particular arrangement of jawbones and thighbones in the official Bones emblem. {Finally}, the skull and crossbones was the official crest of another key Illuminist lodge..."
(Esquire, p.88).
It is shocking also when we realize that German Nazi death camp guards wore this emblem of Skull and Bones on the shoulders of their uniforms.

Without doubt, we have established Skull and Bones to be a Brotherhood of Death Society, which is itself tied into the Masters of the Illuminati. It is no wonder that Bush has been proclaiming the New World Order


RESULTS

We have studied the common philosophical and religious links between the German Thule Society and Skull and Bones. We now need to study the historical results of the attempt of the Thule Society to establish a New World Order. After the Thule Society selected Adolph Hitler to be their leader of the New World Order, they faced the problem of practical implementation of this goal.

They realized that their plans for world domination required control of military power of Germany; however, the military is controlled by those holding political power, and Germany was a democracy. Therefore, the Thule Society created the Nazi Party.

The Guiding Spirits of the Thule Society became the Guiding Spirits of the Nazi Party. In only 10 tumultuous years, Hitler gained high political office, from which he catapulted himself into the position of absolute dictator in 1933. In 1938, Hitler began the Final Solution of the Jewish problem by initiating the Holocaust.

In 1939, Hitler initiated World War II, which lasted until Mid-1945. As I read the results, remember James' words,
"Then the evil desire, when it has conceived, gives birth to sin, and sin, when it is fully matured, brings forth death."
By 1945, the occultic sin conceived by the Thule Society had come to full completion. These are the results:
(Source is The Webster Family Encyclopedia, Volume 19, 1984, p. 492-3)
Enormous armies were mobilized around the world.
Russia 12,500,000 men
America 12,400,000 men
Germany 10,000,000 men
Japan 6,000,000 men
France 5,000,000 men
Britain 4,700,000 men
Italy 4,000,000 men
China 3,800,000 men
Canada 1,100,000 men
Total World-Wide Mobilization: 59,500,000 men
The death toll was almost incomprehensible.
1. Russia 10,000,000 soldiers - 10,000,000 civilians
2. Germany 3,000,000 soldiers - 500,000 civilians
3. Japan 2,000,000 soldiers - 500,000 civilians
4. Italy 330,000 soldiers - 80,000 civilian
5. Britain 350,000 soldiers - 60,000 civilian
6. France 200,000 soldiers - 200,000 civilian
7. China 1,300,000 soldiers - (no estimate on civilian deaths)
8. Poland 600,000 soldiers - 5,000,000 civilians
9. America 390,000 soldiers (negligible civilian deaths)
Total human lives killed was: 18,200,000 soldiers and 16,300,000 civilians for 34,000,000 total deaths.
When you add 18,000,000 deaths from Hitler's Death Camps, you realize that over 54 million people lost their lives as the final result of the occultic practices and goals of the New World Order of that German Brotherhood of Death Society, the Thule Society. The 6,000,000 Jewish deaths from Hitler's Final Solution represented two-thirds of the total world-wide Jewish population.

Hitler came close to winning WWII, but God's timing was not yet come. However, some of the after-effects of WWII served to set the stage for the current drive toward the New World Order.

Alice Bailey states in her book, The Externalisation of the Hierarchy, that the world must be united regionally before it can be united into one. Stalin repeated this concept shortly before his death in 1953. World War II certainly provided the impetus for this type reorganization. The World was reorganized militarily into NATO in Europe, the Warsaw Pact in Eastern Europe, and SEATO in Asia. Economic regionalization also occurred along approximately the same lines. Repeated cultural, economic, and religious regionalizations have been created since WWII.

The infant One-World Government was created as the United Nations, in 1948. A similar effort was orchestrated after WWI as the League of Nations, but was defeated. One of the first actions of the United Nations was to create the nation of Israel, thus fulfilling God's prophecies to return her back to her Promised Land in the Last Days.

Tremendous technological progress was achieved under the impetus of war. The atomic bomb was created, as were the jet engine, the rocket, and modern telecommunications. New Age author, Allen Neuharth, in his book, Nearly One World, states that these inventions have brought the world to the threshold of a One-World Government, Economy, and Religion, i.e., the New World Order.

This brief review of the after-effects of WWII clearly shows much was achieved that set the stage for the current New World Order. Let us now review some of the goals which Secret Societies today have for the New World Order. Keep in mind that the Skull and Bones is the driving force and is the "first among equals" among all other Secret Societies and all other open organizations which are committed to this new order.
One World Government -- the only answer to man's problems.
One World Economy
One World Religion -- Man's evil actions historically are ascribed to his divisions into many different religions. Therefore, much emphasis is being laid on the re-uniting into one religion. The current Ecumenical Movement is leading the charge toward this all-important goal. In a seminar held in Boston in August, 1991, the current New England Director of the Theosophical Society stated that, at the proper moment in world history the Roman Catholic Pope would travel to Jerusalem to address a world-wide religious conference. In his speech, he would declare all the world's religions to be united into One.
Thus, Alice Bailey's Plan, stated almost 50 years ago, would be realized, i.e., that the Great One would reinstate the Ancient Mysteries Religion as the New World Order Religion.
"These Mysteries, when restored, will unify all faiths."
(Externalisation of the Hierarchy, p. 573, written in 1946).
One of the most basic plans after the New World Order is established is to reduce the world's population from its present 6 billion to 2 billion ... (Constance Cumbey, Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow). Thus, birth control and abortion were early identified as necessary to begin reducing population. Our current emphasis on man's devastating effects upon the earth and upon Global Warming and pollution are designed to convince people that only united, drastic action from the United Nations can save this planet from collapse.

How can this drastic reduction be achieved within this short time frame? The basic answer is war.
Bailey, in her book, The Externalization of the Hierarchy, p. 548, states that the atomic bomb will be turned over to the One-World Government and will be used against any nation who refuses to go along with the New World Order.

Bill Cooper, in Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars from his book, Behold A Pale Horse, quotes a document from the Bilderberg Secret Society, which is an offshoot of Skull and Bones.
"Since most of the general public will not exercise [economic] restraint...[we must] take control of the world by the use of economic silent weapons in a form of quiet warfare and reduce [the dangerous levels of consumption] of the world to a safe level by a process of benevolent slavery and genocide."
(p. 49).

How could anyone ever think of slavery and genocide as being benevolent? This was the precise thinking of Hitler as he was planning his New World Order. He was going to rid the world of all the undesirables by benevolent warfare. We reviewed the horrible results in the beginning of the pro-gram; however, these figures pale in comparison with the deaths of 4 billion people.
At this point, you may protest that the drive to the New World Order is being achieved peacefully. This is true, and when it is fully achieved will fulfill Biblical prophecy which states 1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Further, these plans, if carried out, will also fulfill Biblical prophecy in Revelation 6:4
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Thus, we see that the New World Order goals of the Secret Societies, chief of which is Skull and Bones, when completed, would fulfill many Biblical Prophecies.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_thule03.htm
 
The "Black Nobility" are/were the oligarchic families of Venice and Genoa, Italy, who in the 12th century held the privileged trading rights (monopolies). The first of three crusades, from 1063 to 1123, established the power of the Venetian Black Nobility and solidified the power of the wealthy ruling class. The Black Nobility aristocracy achieved complete control over Venice in 1171, when the appointment of the Doge was transferred to what was known as the Great Council, which consisted of members of the commercial aristocracy (among them the infamous de’Medici family). Venice has remained in their hands ever since, but the power and influence of the Venetian Black Nobility extends far beyond its borders, and today it is felt in every corner of the globe. (Don’t forget, our modern banking system originated in Italy.)

In 1204 the oligarchic family parceled out feudal enclaves to their members, and from this epoch dates the great building-up of power and pressure until the government became a closed corporation (don’t we know this from somewhere?) of the leading Black Nobility families. More of this can be found in the works of Dr. John Coleman, Black Nobility Unmasked World-wide, 1985; Conspirators’ Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300, 1992. Question: the Christopher Columbus story is a concoction. How about the Marco Polo stories? Anyone?

The Black Nobility earned its title through dirty tricks, so when the population revolted against the monopolies in government, as anywhere else (aren’t we), the leaders of the uprising were quickly seized and brutally hanged. The Black Nobility uses secret assassinations, murder, blackmail, the bankrupting of opposing citizens or companies, kidnapping, rape and so on… hence their name. Who are these families today? Well, the most important ones are:
House of Bernadotte, Sweden
House of Bourbon, France
House of Braganza, Portugal
House of Grimaldi, Monaco
House of Guelph, Britain (the most important one)
House of Habsburg, Austria
House of Hanover, Germany (the second most important one)
House of Hohenzollern, Germany
House of Karadjordjevic, Yugoslavia (former)
House of Liechtenstein, Liechtenstein
House of Nassau, Luxembourg
House of Oldenburg, Denmark
House of Orange, Netherlands
House of Savoy, Italy
House of Wettin, Belgium
House of Wittelsbach, Germany
House of Württemberg, Germany
House of Zogu, Albania
all the families you will find on the Windsor family tree
All the families listed are connected with the House of Guelph, one of the original Black Nobility families of Venice, from which the House of Windsor and thus the present Queen of England, Elizabeth II, descends. The Guelphs are so intertwined with the German aristocracy through the House of Hanover that it would take several pages to mention all their connections. All (almost) European royal houses originate from the House of Hanover and thus from the House of Guelph — the Black Nobility.

An example: the Hanoverian British King George I came from the Duchy of Luneburg, a part of Northern Germany, which had been governed by the Guelph family since the 12th century. Today the Guelphs (the Windsors) rule by dominating the raw materials market, and for years they have fixed the price of gold (a commodity they neither produce nor own). The House of Windsor also controls the price of copper, zinc, lead and tin. It is no accident that the principle commodity exchanges are located in London, England. Companies run by Black Nobility families are British Petroleum, Oppenheimer, Lonrho, Philbro and many many more.

Another Black Nobility family are the Grosvenors in England. For centuries this family lived, as most of the European families, on ground rent. Today the family owns at least 300 acres of land in the centre of London. The land is never sold, but leased on a 39 year leasehold agreement — the ground rent of the middle ages. Grosvenor Square, in which the American Embassy is located, belongs to the Grosvenor family, as does Eaton Square. In Eaton Square apartments are rented out at 25,000 to 75,000 pounds a month (and that does not include maintenance costs). This is to give you an idea of the immense wealth the Black Nobility families garner from ground rents, and why families like the Windsors are not at all interested in industrial progress along with the excess population it supports. This is the main reason why these ’noble’ families are behind most, if not all, of the wrong-headed pro-environmental movements of the world that ultimately and covertly (of course) aim to curb population growth. Prince Philip and Prince Charles are the most visible symbols of these movements, and both have often spoken with the utmost callousness about the need to rid the world of unwanted people.

The Black Nobility are the founders of the secret society of our day from which all the others that are connected to the Illuminati originated from — the Committee of 300. The Club of Rome, the C.F.R., the R.I.I.A., the Bilderbergers, the Round Table… all originate from the Committee of 300 and therefore from the European Black Nobility families.

Co-operating with the European Black Nobility are American families like the Harrimans and the McGeorge Bundys. The House of Hanover seems to be German, but is Jewish. So is the House of Habsburg. So it wasn’t really the Germans who took over the British throne...
 
BIGIRL.......... thanks for such a brilliant insight into The Black Nobility
 
blackcity said:
BIGIRL.......... thanks for such a brilliant insight into The Black Nobility
You're welcome. Thank you for being enthusiastic and receptive about the information. I have known about this stuff since the 80s and have been researching since and its great to have people who want to know too.
 
bigirl said:
You're welcome. Thank you for being enthusiastic and receptive about the information. I have known about this stuff since the 80s and have been researching since and its great to have people who want to know too.
Its very good information... relevant... I mean I got a similar thread along the same sort of theme going HERE if you're interested but most of the stuff would prolly be old news to you... plz keep this thread alive and growing thx
 
blackcity said:
Its very good information... relevant... I mean I got a similar thread along the same sort of theme going HERE if you're interested but most of the stuff would prolly be old news to you... plz keep this thread alive and growing thx
Yeah I just saw it and replied in it. Nice.
As I run into useful and pertinent stuff I will continue to post it here. I tend to do it in waves. I run across either a new source or one I haven't seen in a while and post a bunch of stuff shile its fresh in my mind.
 
Jesus tap dancing Christ! :lol:

Please tell me you all are not serious with this............ shit, I don't even know what to call it..... I guess "shit" works as well as anything else.

So basically, ( I didn't read everything, damn) there's a group or groups of a few thousand people, that control a world of billions? And the billions have no control of what happens to them and the machine world has sent sentinels tunneling to Zion, and, and, ................... Ah SHIT!!!

Seriously though, that whole Spiderman web shooting hand signal everybodys using was a little creepy. :D

Bigirl, I think I'm beginning to understand why you might be having trouble gettin' smart dudes. Cuz when Casual Observer questioned you, your response was emotional, instead of defending your position with reason and logic. See, smart dudes don't wanna argue irrationally, they wanna discuss logically.

Anyway ya'll, good luck with this version of the Matrix
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Harbinger said:
Jesus tap dancing Christ! :lol:

Please tell me you all are not serious with this............ shit, I don't even know what to call it..... I guess "shit" works as well as anything else.

So basically, ( I didn't read everything, damn) there's a group or groups of a few thousand people, that control a world of billions? And the billions have no control of what happens to them and the machine world has sent sentinels tunneling to Zion, and, and, ................... Ah SHIT!!!

Seriously though, that whole Spiderman web shooting hand signal everybodys using was a little creepy. :D

Bigirl, I think I'm beginning to understand why you might be having trouble gettin' smart dudes. Cuz when Casual Observer questioned you, your response was emotional, instead of defending your position with reason and logic. See, smart dudes don't wanna argue irrationally, they wanna discuss logically.

Anyway ya'll, good luck with this version of the Matrix
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Ok whiteboy run along to your little kkk meeting or your golf or tennis match, your tea or whatever else it may be.
 
bigirl said:
Ok whiteboy run along to your little kkk meeting or your golf or tennis match, your tea or whatever else it may be.

Whiteboy?
KKK meeting?
Wow, that's the best you could come back with?
An intelligent woman such as yourself, and THAT'S the best you could do?

Perhaps you're not quite as smart as you think you are, or maybe you just hang out with stupid men, which by extension makes you think you're smart
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bigirl said:
hes just another one of the gang.....

Bigirl, don't put a lot of stock into non-believers. They say what they say out of ignorance and lack of research. You knew that eventually there was going to be one knucklehead that was going to come into this thread and present a non-believing point of view; that problem is that person and most non-believers never offer any logical researched explanation as to why they don't believe in the New World Order system, 911 being an inside job, Rise Of the Police State, etc, etc. Don't take non-believers personal, Bigirl. If they want to stay asleep in the Matrix, let them because when it's all set and done they'll all wake the fuck up!
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Bigirl, don't put a lot of stock into non-believers. They say what they say out of ignorance and lack of research. You knew that eventually there was going to be one knucklehead that was going to come into this thread and present a non-believing point of view; that problem is that person and most non-believers never offer any logical researched explanation as to why they don't believe in the New World Order system, 911 being an inside job, Rise Of the Police State, etc, etc. Don't take non-believers personal, Bigirl. If they want to stay asleep in the Matrix, let them because when it's all set and done they'll all wake the fuck up!

There is no substantiated proof of any of this NWO nonsense. It's all based on fiction. I challenge you to submit subtantiated proof. Can't do it, can you? That's because there isn't any.

Man, you people sound like a religous cult of fanatics
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Harbinger said:
There is no substantiated proof of any of this NWO nonsense. It's all based on fiction. I challenge you to submit subtantiated proof. Can't do it, can you? That's because there isn't any.


Here's a link to the Chronological history of the New World Order with various Presidents Of United States, members of Council on Foreign Relations, etc admitting to the existence of the nWo right out of their mouth. If that's not proof enough I don't know what is.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/a_chronological_history_of_the_new_world_order.htm

Man, you people sound like a religous cult of fanatics

And you sound like someone who needs to do some serious research before speaking again on this issue.
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Here's a link to the Chronological history of the New World Order with various Presidents Of United States, members of Council on Foreign Relations, etc admitting to the existence of the nWo right out of their mouth. If that's not proof enough I don't know what is.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/a_chronological_history_of_the_new_world_order.htm



And you sound like someone who needs to do some serious research before speaking again on this issue.

THIS is your proof? THIS is your "research"? Political rhetoric, and the ramblings of some supposed academic?
:lol:

Look here homey, I've got two bridges, the Brooklyn, and the Golden Gate, I'll letcha have for cheap! And cuz I'm such a good guy, and you appear to be an enterprising young fellow, Imma throw in Florida swampland at a HUUUUUGE discount!

GEEZUS MAN, DAMN
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GPS Device Finds Bank Robbery Suspect ...
Cincinnati, OH -- Police say modern technology foiled an old-fashioned bank robbery. A teller placed an electronic Global Positioning System device in a bag of stolen money, allowing police to track down a suspect in just 42 minutes Thursday.
"Around here (GPS) is still relatively rare," Hamilton County sheriff's office spokesman Steve Barnett said. "But with the advancement in technology and the continued success of catching bank robbers, soon I would hope that other financial institutions would jump on board." Authorities said that after William Ingram, 46, left a U.S. Bank in suburban Colerain Township, the GPS device tracked him to a car dealership in Hartwell, where he was returning a Honda that he had borrowed for a test drive but actually used as a getaway car. When Ingram was confronted, money began spilling from his pockets, officials said.
EDITOR'S Comment: There will be no place to hide for anyone who takes the Mark of the Beast.

Three R's: Reading, Writing, RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chips...
Gary Stillman, the director of a small K-8 charter school in Buffalo, New York, is an RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) believer.
While privacy advocates fret that the embedded microchips will be used to track people surreptitiously, Stillman said he believes that RFID tags will make his inner city school safer and more efficient.

Stillman has gone whole-hog for radio-frequency technology, which his year-old Enterprise Charter School started using last month to record the time of day students arrive in the morning. In the next months, he plans to use RFID to track library loans, disciplinary records, cafeteria purchases and visits to the nurse's office. Eventually he'd like to expand the system to track students' punctuality (or lack thereof) for every class and to verify the time they get on and off school buses.
"That way, we could confirm that Johnny Jones got off at Oak and Hurtle at 3:22," Stillman said. "All this relates to safety and keeping track of kids.... Eventually it will become a monitoring tool for us."
Radio-frequency identification tags -- which have been hailed as the next-generation bar code -- consist of a microchip outfitted with a tiny antenna that broadcasts an ID number to a reader unit. The reader searches a database for the number and finds the related file, which contains the tagged item's description, or in the case of Enterprise Charter, the student's information.

Euro notes may be radio tagged...
Hitachi is rumored to be in talks with the European Central Bank about embedding radio tags into euro banknotes.
Radio tags the size of a grain of sand could be embedded in the euro note if a rumored deal between the European Central Bank (ECB) and Japanese electronics maker Hitachi is signed.
"RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) tags also have the ability of recording information such as details of the transactions the paper note has been involved in. It would, therefore, also prevent money-laundering, make it possible to track illegal transactions and even prevent kidnappers demanding unmarked bills," Chopra said.

Library adopts Spy Chips...
A civil liberties watchdog group is expressing concern over the San Francisco Public Library's plans to track books by inserting computer chips into each tome. Library officials approved a plan Thursday to install tiny radio frequency identification chips, known as RFIDs, into the roughly 2 million books, CDs and audiovisual materials patrons can borrow. The system still needs funding and wouldn't be ready until at least 2005.

Your car tires have RFID's chips in them ALREADY!!!
Its a us federal sponsored initiative to track vehicles near certain highways feeding certain urban areas. Basically the FBI enters a rfid number into the database and then history of travel for the car pops up. The feds can also pre-enter rfids they want to watch after getting a reading off your parked car or from the Canadian-us customs border (where they already actively log the car rfids in the tires and associate them with plates)
Your tires have a passive coil with 64 to 128 bit serial number emitter in them!

Federal Drug Administration approves use of the Mark of the Beast for medical Patients...

And he shall make all, both little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. (Apocalypse Chapter 13: 16-17)

Medical milestone or privacy invasion? A tiny computer chip approved Wednesday for implantation in a patient's arm can speed vital information about a patient's medical history to doctors and hospitals. But critics warn that it could open new ways to imperil the confidentiality of medical records.

The Food and Drug Administration said Wednesday that Applied Digital Solutions of Delray Beach, Fla., could market the VeriChip, an implantable computer chip about the size of a grain of rice, for medical purposes.

With the pinch of a syringe, the microchip is inserted under the skin in a procedure that takes less than 20 minutes and leaves no stitches. Silently and invisibly, the dormant chip stores a code that releases patient-specific information when a scanner passes over it.

Think UPC code. The identifier, emblazoned on a food item, brings up its name and price on the cashier's screen. At the doctor's office the codes stamped onto chips, once scanned, would reveal such information as a patient's allergies and prior treatments, speeding care.

The microchips have already been implanted in 1 million pets. But the chip's possible dual use for tracking people's movements - as well as speeding delivery of their medical information to emergency rooms - has raised alarm.

Mexico's Attorney General required the Mark of the Beast in a 160 people. Thousands more are now planned...

MEXICO CITY, MEXICO - Security has reached the subcutaneous level for Mexico's attorney general and at least 160 people in his office - they have been implanted with microchips that get them access to secure areas of their headquarters.

Mexico's top federal prosecutors and investigators began receiving chip implants in their arms in November in order to get access to restricted areas inside the attorney general's headquarters, said Antonio Aceves, general director of Solusat, the company that distributes the microchips in Mexico.

Attorney General Rafael Macedo de la Concha and 160 of his employees were implanted at a cost to taxpayers of $150 for each rice grain-sized chip. More are scheduled to get "tagged" in coming months, and key members of the Mexican military, the police and the office of President Vicente Fox might follow suit, Aceves said. Fox's office did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Aceves said his company eventually hopes to provide Mexican officials with implantable devices that can track their physical location at any given time, but that technology is still under development.

The chips that have been implanted are manufactured by VeriChip Corp., a subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions Inc. (ADSX) of Palm Beach, Fla. They lie dormant under the skin until read by an electromagnetic scanner, which uses a technology known as radio frequency identification, or RFID, that's now getting hot in the inventory and supply chain businesses. Erik Michielsen, director of RFID analysis at ABI Research Inc., said that in theory the chips could be as secure as existing RFID-based access control systems such as the contactless employee badges widely used in corporate and government facilities.

In addition to the chips sold to the Mexican government, more than 1,000 Mexicans have implanted them for medical reasons, Aceves said. Hospital officials can use a scanning device to download a chip's serial number, which they then use to access a patient's blood type, name and other information on a computer. Still, Silverman said that his company has sold 7,000 chips to distributors across the United States and that more than 1,000 of those had likely been inserted into U.S. customers, mostly for security or identification reasons.

Because the Applied Digital chips cannot be easily removed - and are housed in glass capsules designed to break and be unusable if taken out - they could be even more popular someday if they eventually can incorporate locator capabilities. Already, global positioning system chips have become common accouterments on jewelry or clothing in Mexico. In fact, in March, Mexican authorities broke up a ring of used-car salesmen turned kidnappers who were known as "Los Chips" because they searched their victims to detect whether they were carrying the chips to help them be located.

Bio-chip implant "VeriPay" arrives for cashless checkless society...
At a global security conference held on November 21, 2003, in Paris, an American company, Applied Digital Solutions, announced a new syringe-injectable microchip "VeriPay" implant for humans, designed to be used as a fraud-proof payment method for cash and credit-card transactions. The chip implant is being presented as an advance over credit cards and smart cards, which, absent biometrics and appropriate safeguard technologies, are subject to theft, resulting in identity fraud.

Cashless payment systems are now part of a larger technology development subset: government identification experiments that seek to combine cashless payment applications with national ID information on media (such as a "smart" card), which contain a whole host of government, personal, employment and commercial data and applications on a single, contactless RFID chip. "We are the only ones out there offering implantable ID technology," said Silverman, who announced the "VeriPay" service during a speech Friday at ID World 2003 in Paris. "We believe the market will evolve to use our product."



VeriPay - Your Cash Register on the move...
You can now accept credit card payments from your customers anywhere and anytime. All you need is a standard GSM mobile phone, which becomes an EFTPOS terminal in your pocket. You don't even need to make a phone call - transaction details are simply sent as an SMS text message and confirmed within a few seconds. Ensure the card is good and money is in your bank before you leave the job. No more end-of-day paperwork, visits to the bank or double handling of transactions.

U.N. meeting hears proposal for global human database, ID numbers, to register everyone…

Every person in the world would be fingerprinted and registered under a universal identification scheme to fight illegal immigration and people smuggling outlined at a United Nations meeting today. The plan was put forward by Pascal Smet, the head of Belgium's independent asylum review board, at a roundtable meeting with ministers including Australian Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock this afternoon. But he said the plan could be extended worldwide.
Verichip, a miniaturized, implantable identification device with a variety of medical, security and emergency applications...

VeriChip is an implantable, 12mm by 2.1mm radio frequency device about the size of the point of a typical ballpoint pen. Each VeriChip will contain a unique identification number and other critical data. Utilizing an external scanner, radio frequency energy passes through the skin energizing the dormant VeriChip, which then emits a radio frequency signal transmitting the identification number and other data contained in the VeriChip. The scanner will display the identification number, but the VeriChip data can also be transmitted, via telephone or the Internet, to an FDA compliant, secure data-storage site. It will then be accessible by authorized personnel. Inserting the VeriChip device is a simple procedure performed in an outpatient, office setting. It requires only local anesthesia, a tiny incision and perhaps a small adhesive bandage. Sutures are not necessary.

Ex-New Jersey surgeon offers himself for experiment

NEWARK -- The terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center have spurred a former surgeon from New Jersey to turn himself into a human guinea pig. Five days after the Sept. 11 attacks, Richard Seelig spent about five minutes implanting two "Verichips" -- each no larger than a small breath mint -- below the skin of his right forearm and right hip.

Florida firm first to sell ID microchips to be implanted under skin...

“Digital Angel”: technology that cares

The Digital Angel is a computer chip that is smaller than a grain of rice and has a short antenna. It is placed under the skin of a person and the chip sends a signal to cell phone towers and satellites in the sky and it can tell the body temperature, pulse, heartbeat, insulin levels, etc. and it also tells the location of a person anywhere in the world. All this information on a person would be available over the internet. This chip can also be put in furniture or anything of value for tracking in case of theft. It can also be put in food to record temperature and location as it is shipped across the country.

The Digital Angel demonstration will be held on Thursday, October 26, at the Unconvention Center (Pier 94) in New York City. Roughly 200 invitations will be issued to interested members of the national media, potential joint-venture/licensing partners and selected Wall Street analysts. As previously announced, attendees of the event will witness an historical first: the first-ever operational combination of bio-sensor technology and Web-enabled wireless telecommunications linked to GPS location-tracking systems.

Applied Digital Solutions (ADSX) holds all the patents on the Digital Angel. The projected worldwide sales is $100 billion dollars. The stock is currently selling at 36 cents a share. They call it “technology that cares.” We call it the Mark of the Beast or 666.

Back in 2000 Applied Digital Solutions used this above graphic for their Digital Angel product. The angel image on the left was a part of an early ‘splash’ screen for a GPS-based tracking device similar to OnStar or LoJack designed to be worn by or implanted in humans for medical monitoring, location of at-risk individuals, firearms control, and as “a foolproof means of identification for e-commerce security.

The image in the center is the prior image inverted. Many people feel that the line drawing of the angel forms a clear and distinct pattern resembling the number 666 - the Number of the Beast from the Book of Revelations. The image on the right highlights this pattern. Was this design a deliberate act of sabotage or an unfortunate accident of design or a sign of the prophecy?

The Bible says those who take the 666 Microchip will receive the Wrath of God... http://www.tldm.org/bible/bible.htm

And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character...
And it was given him to give life to the image of the beast: and that the image of the beast should speak: and should cause that whosoever will not adore the image of the beast should be slain. And he shall make all, both little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six. (Apocalypse Chapter 13: 15-18)

He also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God...
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man shall adore the beast and his image and receive his character in his forehead or in his hand, He also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mingled with pure wine in the cup of his wrath: and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torments, shall ascend up for ever and ever: neither have they rest day nor night, who have adored the beast and his image and whoever receiveth the character of his name. Here is the patience of the saints, who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. (Apocalypse Chapter 14:9-12)

And there fell a sore and grievous wound upon men who had the character of the beast...
And the first went and poured out his vial upon the earth. And there fell a sore and grievous wound upon men who had the character of the beast: and upon them that adored the image thereof. (Apocalypse Chapter Chapter 16:2)

Cast alive into the pool of fire burning with brimstone..
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who wrought signs before him, wherewith he seduced them who received the character of the beast and who adored his image. These two were cast alive into the pool of fire burning with brimstone. (Apocalypse Chapter 19:20)

But they shall be priests of God and of Christ: and shall reign with him a thousand years...
And I saw seats. And they sat upon them: and judgment was given unto them. And the souls of them that were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God and who had not adored the beast nor his image nor received his character on their foreheads or in their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. The rest of the dead lived not, till the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection. In these the second death hath no power. But they shall be priests of God and of Christ: and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Apocalypse Chapter 20: 4-6)

The complete Apocalypse is found at: http://www.tldm.org/bible/new testament/apoc.htm

Our Lady of the Roses' awesome Bayside Prophecies... http://www.tldm.org/../Bayside/
These prophecies came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995.

The Mark of the Beast and the Mark of the Living Christ...
"You have been asked to wear a sacramental about your neck. Now I will explain why, My children. I have warned you of the unseen evil forces about you. I have cautioned you that your human eyes cannot see this. But it exists and is as solid in their world as you are on your earthly plane. Know this, that there are two camps now on earth: Lucifer on one side and the road to Heaven and its followers on the other. You have all been marked. There are two signs now: the mark of the beast and the mark of the living Christ.
"Recognize the signs of the times, My children. The war is on." - Our Lady of the Roses, March 25, 1972

Insight...
"As time goes on, My children of light, you will be able to recognize with your human eyes, through insight from the Eternal Father in the Spirit, those who are marked with the sign of the cross or the beast." - Our Lady of the Roses, July 25, 1978

Marked with the mark of satan...
"My child, there will be very many victims upon earth: those who are willing to sacrifice their own pleasures, their own human pursuits, to give them over to the salvation of souls, their brothers and sisters, who are marked with the mark of satan and are seeking to take it away. There is only one way: conversion, and then cure of the sick soul." - Jesus, July 25, 1985

Every person of conscionable age...
"The final count shall be in the few of those who are to be saved. My children, at this very moment of time upon earth, each and every person of conscionable age has been marked with the sign of the cross and redemption, or they have accepted on free will the mark of the beast, eternal damnation!" -Our Lady of the Roses, August 14, 1978

Be branded...
"Each man on earth who has been baptized and set himself up as a follower of My Son in infancy has received the mark of the cross upon him. He can in his lifetime cast this away and be branded with the mark of the beast. This will be of his choice. No man will be lost without his own choice." -Our Lady of the Roses, December 31, 1972
 
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all the above... as we speak... :smh: thank you BIGIRL for such relevant info
 
What are the Signs of the Hour?

Let us look at what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said about the Signs of the Hour:

Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established (1) till two big groups fight each other whereupon there will be a great number of casualties on both sides and they will be following one and the same religious doctrine, (2) till about thirty Dajjals (liars) appear, and each one of them will claim that he is Allah's Apostle, (3) till the religious knowledge is taken away (by the death of Religious scholars) (4) earthquakes will increase in number (5) time will pass quickly, (6) afflictions will appear, (7) Al-Harj, (i.e., killing) will increase, (8) till wealth will be in abundance ---- so abundant that a wealthy person will worry lest nobody should accept his Zakat, and whenever he will present it to someone, that person (to whom it will be offered) will say, 'I am not in need of it, (9) till the people compete with one another in constructing high buildings, (10) till a man when passing by a grave of someone will say, 'Would that I were in his place (11) and till the sun rises from the West. So when the sun will rise and the people will see it (rising from the West) they will all believe (embrace Islam) but that will be the time when: (As Allah said,) 'No good will it do to a soul to believe then, if it believed not before, nor earned good (by deeds of righteousness) through its Faith.' (6.158) And the Hour will be established while two men spreading a garment in front of them but they will not be able to sell it, nor fold it up; and the Hour will be established when a man has milked his she-camel and has taken away the milk but he will not be able to drink it; and the Hour will be established before a man repairing a tank (for his livestock) is able to water (his animals) in it; and the Hour will be established when a person has raised a morsel (of food) to his mouth but will not be able to eat it." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Afflictions and the End of the World, Volume 9, Book 88, Number 237)"

According to Islam, the eleven Signs above must occur in order for the Hour to come. Sign #9 above fascinates me. How can an illiterate Bedouin living in the middle of the desert 1400 years ago like Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him know that we today will have high buildings and sky scrapers?

As to the rising of the sun from the west, it will occur exactly when the Universal "Cosmic Crunch" occurs. It will be the time when:

"The Day that We roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books (completed),- even as We produced the first creation, so shall We produce a new one: a promise We have undertaken: truly shall We fulfil it. (The Noble Quran, 21:104)"

"The Day ye shall see it, every mother giving suck shall forget her suckling-babe, and every pregnant female shall drop her load (unformed): thou shalt see mankind as in a drunken riot, yet not drunk: but dreadful will be the Wrath of God. (The Noble Quran, 22:2)"

To see the scientific information that confirms Allah Almighty's claims in the Noble Quran about the Universe, please visit The Big Bang Theory and the Cosmic Crunch in the Noble Quran.

The rising of the sun from the west will be the last Sign to occur, and it will be the "too late" Sign to occur for the disbelievers to convert to Islam. As Prophet Muhammad quoted Noble Verse 6:158 to further elaborate on this Sign:

"Are they waiting to see If the angels come to them, Or thy Lord (Himself), Or certain of the Signs Of thy Lord! The day that certain Of the Signs of thy Lord Do come, no good Will it do to a soul To believe in them then, If it believed not before Nor earned righteousness Through its Faith. Say: "Wait ye: we too Are waiting." (The Noble Quran, 6:158)"

All of the factors that will cause for the Cosmic Crunch to occur and for the sun to rise from the west will be the "certain Of the Signs of thy Lord" that will ultimately end the life of this World.
 
Very informative thread!
Does anyone have any good, detailed info on The Boule to share? The one link with info was a mess (no offence bigirl).

The Boule' is a black GREEK secret society based on another secret society founded at Yale University called Skull & Bones. The Boule's founder was Dr. Henry Minton, of Philadelphia, Pa, in 1904. The founding member of the New York chapter, WEB DuBois, said the Boule' was created to "keep the black professional away from the ranks of Marcus Garvey." ( One thing that needs to be pointed out is the time period. At the founding of the Boule', it was also a time Marcus Garvey's "Back to Afrika" movement was reaching a million plus people without tv or radio.) DuBois emphasized, as Cokely stated, "the importance to steal the black professional away from Garvey because an Afrocentric organization that articulated and capture the black professional would give YT no safe haven in the black community, so the Boule' -- the remaking of the house negro was necessary to build a group of negroes who had an investment in protecting the white system as produced by YT having stolen this land from a population still in existence in the late 1800s and early 1900s; and a dawning population breaking the shackles of overt slavery, had to be railroaded in a way. This is post reconstruction. Taking away the articulate negro, now desiring to replace them with organized institutions to keep them away from self-improvement. So we find in the same period, as the founding of the Boule', the founding of the 4 black male (Alpha Phi Alpha, Kappa Alpha Psi, Omega Psi Phi, and Phi Beta Sigma) and 4 black female (Alpha Kappa Alpha, Delta Sigma Theta, Zeta Phi Beta, and Sigma Gamma Rho) college-based fraternities and sororities...We also find the founding of the NAACP and Urban League."
 
Harbinger said:
THIS is your proof? THIS is your "research"? Political rhetoric, and the ramblings of some supposed academic?
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Oh there's more links where that came from but there's no need to go any further. Bottom line, I know this stuff is real and that's all that matters to me. I'm not really interested in wasting energy, going back and forth with someone who is determined to not believe regardless of any proof you show them. Either you get it or you don't! Anything outside of that is bullshit!
 
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