Bohemian Grove

smokedacane said:
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You're educating the hell out of me girl :lol:


I am going to have to read that, looks long and informative


thanks
You are most welcome. I have that book but check this book if you can:
Behold%20a%20Pale%20Horse3.jpg

the book was written in the 80s and everything it said has happened or is happening now. all the info i am compiling here is in that book. the author, William Cooper was mysteriously killed less than a month after 9/11.
 
GIVEME3FT. said:
peace nice thread. who has info. on boule.
i HATE your avatar but i will drop the info anyway
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/9516/boule.html
The Boule' is a black GREEK secret society based on another secret society founded at Yale University called Skull & Bones. The Boule's founder was Dr. Henry Minton, of Philadelphia, Pa, in 1904. The founding member of the New York chapter, WEB DuBois, said the Boule' was created to "keep the black professional away from the ranks of Marcus Garvey." ( One thing that needs to be pointed out is the time period. At the founding of the Boule', it was also a time Marcus Garvey's "Back to Afrika" movement was reaching a million plus people without tv or radio.) DuBois emphasized, as Cokely stated, "the importance to steal the black professional away from Garvey because an Afrocentric organization that articulated and capture the black professional would give YT no safe haven in the black community, so the Boule' -- the remaking of the house negro was necessary to build a group of negroes who had an investment in protecting the white system as produced by YT having stolen this land from a population still in existence in the late 1800s and early 1900s; and a dawning population breaking the shackles of overt slavery, had to be railroaded in a way. This is post reconstruction. Taking away the articulate negro, now desiring to replace them with organized institutions to keep them away from self-improvement. So we find in the same period, as the founding of the Boule', the founding of the 4 black male (Alpha Phi Alpha, Kappa Alpha Psi, Omega Psi Phi, and Phi Beta Sigma) and 4 black female (Alpha Kappa Alpha, Delta Sigma Theta, Zeta Phi Beta, and Sigma Gamma Rho) college-based fraternities and sororities...We also find the founding of the NAACP and Urban League."

here is a rebuttal from a boule member:
http://www.chucksmoot.net/essay-bglo.html

and playahatas drop on it:
http://www.playahata.com/pages/morpheus/blackfrats.html
 
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bigirl said:
You are most welcome. I have that book but check this book if you can:
Behold%20a%20Pale%20Horse3.jpg

the book was written in the 80s and everything it said has happened or is happening now. all the info i am compiling here is in that book. the author, William Cooper was mysteriously killed less than a month after 9/11.


:lol:


story on his death said:
William Cooper has been killed and an Apache County sheriff's deputy wounded in a shoot-out, authorities said.

William Milton Cooper, 58, of Eager, had hosted a talk show broadcast on the Worldwide Christian Radio out of Nashville, which receives it via phone from his home in St. Johns.

The deputy, whose name was being withheld by authorities, was shot twice in the head while trying to arrest Cooper, a state Department of Public Safety spokesman said today. Cooper was killed by another officer.

Several deputies were attempting to arrest Cooper, who was armed with a handgun, said Officer Steve Volden, a spokesman for the DPS, which was investigating the shooting. He said details of the shooting would be released later today. The deputy was in critical condition at a Phoenix hospital early today, Volden said.

everything about that just sounds odd........


I am very familiar with that book. He has a bunch of videos I found on youtube where he talks about government conspiracy, aliens, and the whole 9


Very very informative vid :)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574387786893863155&q=william+cooper&hl=en
 
There are threads from time to time that pop up with plenty of GREAT information, they normally get buried quickly though.

It's always good to be informed.
 
from a VERY informative and very long read here:
http://www.rense.com/general30/illuminatidefector.htm

The Illuminati has planned first for a financial collapse that will make the great depression look like a picnic. This will occur through the maneuvering of the great banks and financial institutions of the world, through stock manipulation, and interest rate changes. Most people will be indebted to the federal government through bank and credit card debt, etc. The governments will recall all debts immediately, but most people will be unable to pay and will be bankrupted. This will cause generalized financial panic, which will occur simultaneously worldwide, as the Illuminists firmly believe in controlling people through finances.

Doesn't sound pleasant, does it? I don't know the exact time frame for all of this, and wouldn't want to even guess. The good news is that if a person is debt-free, owes nothing to the government or credit debt, and can live self sufficiently, they may do better than others. I would invest in gold, not stocks, if I had the income. Gold will once again be the world standard, and dollars will be pretty useless (remember after the Civil War? Our money will be worth about what confederate money was after the collapse).

Next there will be a military takeover, region by region, as the government declares a state of emergency and martial law. People will have panicked, there will be an anarchical state in most localities, and the government will justify its move as being necessary to control panicked citizens. The cult trained military leaders and people under their direction will use arms as well as crowd control techniques to implement this new state of affairs. ...Military bases will be set up, in each locality (actually, they are already here, but are covert). In the next few years, they will go above ground and be revealed. Each locality will have regional bases and leaders to which they are accountable. The hierarchy will closely reflect the current covert hierarchy.
 
bigirl said:
from a VERY informative and very long read here:
http://www.rense.com/general30/illuminatidefector.htm



Yeah, I am familiar with all this too, this is supposed to take place before 2012 and we are starting to see fragments of it already starting to occur. I also read somewhere that the government would try and stage a fake Alien invasion so we would in our own fear agree to becoming a one world government (this fear didn't work for 9/11).



Reagan even talks about it in one of his speeches :smh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iDmaB5BxzA





All this shit is starting to add up, I just HOPE a large proportion of the population wakes up before then so we aren't caught off guard and can fight back and reclaim control of this corrupt world establishment.
 
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the thing i dont like about conspiracies is that there is so much DISinformation out there that its kinda hard to determine what the truth is... just like with religion... if everyone is claiming to know the absolute truth, but everybody is saying something different... how the hell do you know whats real and whats fake

props on droppin the information tho.
 
Quilly said:
the thing i dont like about conspiracies is that there is so much DISinformation out there that its kinda hard to determine what the truth is... just like with religion... if everyone is claiming to know the absolute truth, but everybody is saying something different... how the hell do you know whats real and whats fake

props on droppin the information tho.


Yeah that is why it is up to you to decide what you should and shouldn't take with credence. It can be difficult at times but always keep an open mind.
 
Quilly said:
the thing i dont like about conspiracies is that there is so much DISinformation out there that its kinda hard to determine what the truth is... just like with religion... if everyone is claiming to know the absolute truth, but everybody is saying something different... how the hell do you know whats real and whats fake

props on droppin the information tho.
well if you would study all the different info i posted including links, all from different sources, it all says the same things. to study the member lists of skull and bones and masons and bilderbergs and club of rome is a real eye opener. not only the govt names but all the ceos of all the multinational banks and corporations. there is a point where one just can't deny any longer. for me if i can cross-reference it at least 3 times it becomes fact. what its all a big coincidence the same people in all the groups? people go to the conference and then become president like magic overnight? :confused:
I didn't even start with the knights templar and the jesuits yet. i was gonna save that for tomorrow.
 
smokedacane said:
Yeah, I am familiar with all this too, this is supposed to take place before 2012
and isn't it odd that the ancient Mayan calander ends in 2012......

smokedacane said:
All this shit is starting to add up, I just HOPE a large proportion of the population wakes up before then so we aren't caught off guard and can fight back and reclaim control of this corrupt world establishment.
me too but most of them still seem in denial :smh:
 
bigirl said:
and isn't it odd that the ancient Mayan calander ends in 2012......


me too but most of them still seem in denial :smh:



Yeah 2012 always keeps popping up. And now with those Bee's dissapearing from their hives it raises more questions. Albert Einstein was quoted as saying


Why are bee's dissapearing?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/business/27bees.html?ex=1330232400&en=3aaa0148837b8977&ei=5088


Albert Einstein said:
if the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe, then man would have only four years of life left.


Give or take a year and that still ends up around 2012.


Something definitely is going down 2012 but I have heard so many stories on what may happen I don't know what to take as truth.


People who are in denial are totally brainwashed beyoned recognition
 
smokedacane said:
Yeah that is why it is up to you to decide what you should and shouldn't take with credence. It can be difficult at times but always keep an open mind.

definately... it can tend to be a bit daunting at times but ive always been interested in "hidden" knowledge and the unknown.

but for those of you that have and believe this information(i cant say i believe it because i havent read all of it yet).. what do yall plan on doing with it besides trying to get more people to realize and accept it... if the whole world woke up tommorow and accepted this stuff as truth....what then?? whats the next move?
 
bigirl said:
and isn't it odd that the ancient Mayan calander ends in 2012......


me too but most of them still seem in denial :smh:



Yeah 2012 always keeps popping up. And now with those Bee's dissapearing from their hives it raises more questions. Albert Einstein was quoted as saying


Why are bee's dissapearing?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/business/27bees.html?ex=1330232400&en=3aaa0148837b8977&ei=5088


Albert Einstein said:
if the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe, then man would have only four years of life left.


Give or take a year and that still ends up around 2012.


Something definitely is going down 2012 but I have heard so many stories on what may happen I don't know what to take as truth.


People who are in denial are totally brainwashed beyoned recognition
 
Props to Bigirl for having the balls to post a thread like this. A lot of cats don't even believe that the nWo/Globalist Elite exists. I guess they need to be told like slaves by CNN, MSNBC, CBS, FOX, USA Today, New York Times, Popular Mechanics etc, before they accept it. I personally have known about Bohemian Grove for a while now and it's disturbing that the people who run this country take part in such disgusting acts. :puke: The nWo needs to be shut down and only way that can happen is when 75% or more of the American people rise up and .....

1. Shut down the Federal Reserve and take back the power to create all the currency instead of giving that power to private bankers.

2. Shut down the IRS. With no interest to pay back to the the shut down Federal Reserve (which is where income taxes go to) there is no need to have an IRS. Also release anyone who got sent to jail for not paying income taxes since there is no law that requires such and give those people back anything that was taken by the IRS.

3. Start a committee that represents the people that keep a tight check and balance on what the government does behind the scenes and makes sure everything is in order.

4. Eliminate this police state, big brother BS. No fucking chips in cards to track your ass, no fucking cameras watching your ass, no FBI/CIA listening to your calls.

5. Follow the fucking Constitution and govern by that and stop making up laws like the Patriot act that strip away rights.

By doing those five things eliminates any power the nWo has but it's going to take the American people rising up to make it happen. Hopefully it will be sooner than later.
 
Quilly said:
definately... it can tend to be a bit daunting at times but ive always been interested in "hidden" knowledge and the unknown.

but for those of you that have and believe this information(i cant say i believe it because i havent read all of it yet).. what do yall plan on doing with it besides trying to get more people to realize and accept it... if the whole world woke up tommorow and accepted this stuff as truth....what then?? whats the next move?


Well if the whole world (mainly high middle class, middle class, and lower class) woke up tomorrow everything would be different and every person in power who has ties to corruption would be removed (killed most likely). The powers at be don't want this so they constantly present us with distractions such as war, disease, or some other type of threat to keep us in fear and blind of the truth.


In terms of what we do after that, we would more than likely start over because I suspect this has been going on for thousands of years. But I can't even begin to speculate what will happen, to monumental of a task for one person to undertake.
 
^^ think we have a chance of seeing that in our lifetime?

lol it may sound like i think you guys are full of shit but that aint the case... im just a bit of a skeptic...
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Props to Bigirl for having the balls to post a thread like this. A lot of cats don't even believe that the nWo/Globalist Elite exists. I guess they need to be told like slaves by CNN, MSNBC, CBS, FOX, USA Today, New York Times, Popular Mechanics etc, before they accept it. I personally have known about Bohemian Grove for a while now and it's disturbing that the people who run this country take part in such disgusting acts. :puke: The nWo needs to be shut down and only way that can happen is when 75% or more of the American people rise up and .....

1. Shut down the Federal Reserve and take back the power to create all the currency instead of giving that power to private bankers.

2. Shut down the IRS. With no interest to pay back to the the shut down Federal Reserve (which is where income taxes go to) there is no need to have an IRS. Also release anyone who got sent to jail for not paying income taxes since there is no law that requires such and give those people back anything that was taken by the IRS.

3. Start a committee that represents the people that keep a tight check and balance on what the government does behind the scenes and makes sure everything is in order.

4. Eliminate this police state, big brother BS. No fucking chips in cards to track your ass, no fucking cameras watching your ass, no FBI/CIA listening to your calls.

5. Follow the fucking Constitution and govern by that and stop making up laws like the Patriot act that strip away rights.

By doing those five things eliminates any power the nWo has but it's going to take the American people rising up to make it happen. Hopefully it will be sooner than later.


Very solid base of a plan


My only problem with it is that this needs to be a global effort and not just an American effort. New World Order is just that.....A WORLD ORDER, need to cut the heads off all the snakes....treat them as if they're the mythological creature Hydra
 
smokedacane said:
Very solid base of a plan


My only problem with it is that this needs to be a global effort and not just an American effort. New World Order is just that.....A WORLD ORDER, need to cut the heads off all the snakes....treat them as if they're the mythological creature Hydra


True indeed. I guess I was just thinking about the U.S, but you're right this needs to happen all over the world.
 
The best thing I can come up with so far is to try to not participate in any of their stuff. Its really hard though. Try not to have credit cards, use banks, buy corporate anything especially your food. Just try to keep out of and away from the system to the best of your ability. This includes commercial music, movies and tv and video games. Thats the first way they get inside your brain.
BTW here are 2 links to Masonic/Satanic corporate logos:
http://spaceport666.tripod.com/666business.html
http://members.tripod.com/therev67/antitrust/index.htm
 
Quilly said:
^^ think we have a chance of seeing that in our lifetime?

lol it may sound like i think you guys are full of shit but that aint the case... im just a bit of a skeptic...


Are you talkin to me or Mastermind?


If you're talkin to me, everything I'm seeing is tellin me that december 21-23 2012 will mark some type of significant event in human history. And the way things are going right now everything seems to be leading up to it. So yes it will be in our lifetime.
 
Quilly said:
the thing i dont like about conspiracies is that there is so much DISinformation out there that its kinda hard to determine what the truth is... just like with religion... if everyone is claiming to know the absolute truth, but everybody is saying something different... how the hell do you know whats real and whats fake

props on droppin the information tho.


The issue regarding these groups and the truth behind them is should we expect anything different from them??....Consider that these very wealthy people are doing what they feel is needed, right or wrong, to ensure that they maintain their wealth and power from generation to generation. You and I may disagree with their politics,morals,economics or whatever but the simple fact remains they aren't going to give up that wealth and power without a fight nor are they going to stop trying to attain more. They do have powerful enemies throughout the world which is why they haven't been able to dominate the planet as they want. China comes to mind along with South American governments that are making moves and gathering strength to counter these groups. Muslim groups are fighting fiercely to beat back attempts to put them under the dominance of this group. Just remember we aren't in the loop of the Bildenbergs and the other wealthy families so whatever their plans are we wont know til it happens or just before and from what I can see they plan decades in advance of when it becomes public.
 
BigUnc said:
The issue regarding these groups and the truth behind them is should we expect anything different from them??....Consider that these very wealthy people are doing what they feel is needed, right or wrong, to ensure that they maintain their wealth and power from generation to generation. You and I may disagree with their politics,morals,economics or whatever but the simple fact remains they aren't going to give up that wealth and power without a fight nor are they going to stop trying to attain more. They do have powerful enemies throughout the world which is why they haven't been able to dominate the planet as they want. China comes to mind along with South American governments that are making moves and gathering strength to counter these groups. Muslim groups are fighting fiercely to beat back attempts to put them under the dominance of this group. Just remember we aren't in the loop of the Bildenbergs and the other wealthy families so whatever their plans are we wont know til it happens or just before and from what I can see they plan decades in advance of when it becomes public.


:yes:

I will even go far as to say they have planned this hundreds of years in advance and we have just been along for the ride. It is all coming to a boiling point now and these are the times they will either succeed or ultimately fail.
 
smokedacane said:
december 21-23 2012 will mark some type of significant event in human history
I know I have mentioned before that Dec 25 is not Jesus' birthday but Nimrods(Baals). This should make perfect sense right now:
The Story Of Nimrod, As It Relates To Christmas And Easter

Nimrod, the grandson of Noah, became the first king known as Sargon I. He built Babylon and Nineveh. Being warlike, he wore a type of helmet with a horn in the front; a trait inherited by the druid Vikings of the Celts, descendants of the Assyrian line.

Nimrod means "tyrant". He led the Sumerians of Babylon to pay tribute to the skies (sun, moon, stars, and planets) with the sacrifice of their children. The Tower of Babel was built for this purpose, echoed in other cultures such as the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas. Since the head of this government was such an idolatrous tyrant, Shem (Nimrod's uncle) killed him. Nimrod's mother, Semiramis, consoled the people by making them believe the child she carried was Nimrod "reincarnated"

-- And named him "Duzu" (Tammuz), Babylonian for the son who rises. This Duzu went into the groves (forests) and placed a gift on a tree to honor Nimrod each year at the winter solstice. It has been said that Duzu was the offspring of Nimrod, who mated with his mother. Nimrod became known as Baal, meaning LORD, and was worshipped by the Babylonians as the sun in the sky -- thus the origin of "going to the heavens" at death.

Trees and branches became symbols of Nimrod. Because Nimrod was "cut down" by Shem, a tree stump became a place of honoring him. Thus, the Hebrew Scriptures speak of the pagans going into the "groves", and bringing a "branch to the nose", and going into the forest and cutting down a tree, decorating it, and propping it up a so that it will not totter. The winter solstice was the time when the sun was thought to be "reborn", so December 25th was celebrated as Baal's (Nimrod's) birthday. By tradition, the artificial idea of a New Year following this birthday celebration became an integral part of every human culture, based on this pagan idolatry. Generally, all mankind is fast asleep, dreaming this old Babylonian dream.

Christmas is an attempt by Catholicism to revise and adopt this paganism. In the year 525, a Scythian monk named Dionysius Exiguus visited Rome. He witnessed the ancient pagan celebration of the winter solstice (then called Paganalia or Saturnalia), and this offended his devout sensibilities. Scripture itself demands that we observe the Messiah's death, not His birth. But, since the pagan mind was so oriented around fertility and birth, it developed the way we see it today, blending the most important features of pagan interpretation. "Babel, the Great Mother of Harlots and of the Abominations of the Earth" -- has intoxicated the masses, and she herself is drunk with the blood of the set-apart ones.

What is her name? It's Easter! Semiramis, Nimrod's mother, became known as "Magna Mater", the "Great Mother", and was worship-ped as Mother Earth. The Sun "mated" with the Earth each spring, and the

"Rites of Spring" symbolized by the "May Pole" and "Easter" came 9 moons/months before the December 25th "birth" of the winter Sun. Her Assyrian name, Ishtar, gives us the word "Easter". The Romans called

her Astarte, and the Phoenicians used Asherah. The Hebrews called her Astoroth, the consort of Baal. Her emblem is the flower of the lily. She is the "goddess of the dawn", and her statue stands on a bridge in France. The French made a colossus of this image, and it now stands in New York Harbor, facing "East" -- in itself a word referring to the rising son/sun -- from which her name springs!
 
bigirl said:
I know I have mentioned before that Dec 25 is not Jesus' birthday but Nimrods(Baals). This should make perfect sense right now:


Very good read, Bigirl........dropping knowledge like it ain't nothin :yes:


Coincidentally enough that little piece talked about the winter solstice, and the winter solstice is supposed to end on December 21st 2012 at 11:11 (not sure if it pm or am)

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/EarthSeasons.html
 
bigirl said:
You are most welcome. I have that book but check this book if you can:
Behold%20a%20Pale%20Horse3.jpg

the book was written in the 80s and everything it said has happened or is happening now. all the info i am compiling here is in that book. the author, William Cooper was mysteriously killed less than a month after 9/11.

Behold a Pale Horse came out in 91'.Cooper was murdered on November 5,2001 but the strange thing is they had initially planned to carry out the "arrest warrant" on the morning of 9/11!! but postponed it.If you have'nt seen the documentary on him u need to check it it's called The Hour of Our Time.

Here is a link for the promo ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi5NaQZVC48
 
This page has all the multinational corps and their ties to masonry. WAY too much to post but I will drop a few on you.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/antiamericangroups.htm

ABC (Illuminati Front Group) In 1961, Walt Disney bought out ABC's investment (also labeled Paramount) for $7.5 million with cash and notes, and to bring this all up to date, later on July 31, 1995, Disney merged with Capital Cities/ABC, with Disney in nominal control. Actually Capital Cities has long been a CIA front company, so the merger placed Disney squarely within the CIA ranks, although it had been in bed with them for the CIA's entire history. The Illuminati-controlled corporations of Coca-Cola and the drug firm Johnson and Johnson became sponsors for Disney's early TV shows. Confirmation Of Anti-Gun Media Bias He and Hoover are bosom, probably bed, partners. And so, Spellman is in a place to be in control of the CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, and through Freemasonry, the Dallas Police Department—like they control every major city’s P.D. And so he carries it out. And then he’s also in control of the press, in control of Time and Life, with Henry Luce, so the press never gets it. He’s in control of CBS, with a man named Frank Shakespeare, who was the head of CBS at the time. So you think Walter Cronkite is going to tell us the truth? No way. He’s in control of CBS, NBC, ABC. They have stocks in it, for heaven’s sake. So, there’s no way the story’s getting out. And he’s in control of the CIA to hit and kill anybody who wants to come out and tell the truth, which is why there’s over a hundred dead witnesses over the last 30 years. That’s why they took out Fensterwald, in 1992, outlined in the book by that CIA agent First Hand Knowledge, by Morrow. He was a CIA agent. He was in on the Kennedy assassination. He completely outlines it in his book, and he tells of that relationship of the CIA to killing Fensterwald. He dedicates his book to Fensterwald. The Black Pope

American Cancer Society (ACS) In the fall of 1996 a new scientific paper dealing with a meta-analysis of 23 different scientific studies on the relationship between first-trimester abortions and breast cancer was published in a British medical journal. That study clearly demonstrated a higher incidence of breast cancer in women who had had first-trimester abortions. In response to that publication, the American Medical Association (AMA), the American Cancer Society (ACS), and pro-abortion/population-control advocates joined together in an unholy alliance to attack the conclusions of the authors, and to block all efforts to disseminate that information to American physicians. All of the organizations mentioned above continue to oppose efforts to have physicians warn women of the risk they face when they submit themselves to first-trimester abortions. Before carrying out all surgical procedures in America "advised consent" is required, except for abortion. The AMA. the ACS, and the pro-death lobby continue to insist that women must not be advised of the risk they incur when they destroy the life of their unborn child. Why is there such inconsistency? Current abortion policies in America are absolutely necessary to reduce our population. That is why a minor child can be taken from school to an abortion clinic without parental notification, yet that same child cannot be given an aspirin without parental consent. It all has to do with population control. The Population Control Agenda

America Online ( Note the Eye set in a pyramid) America On Line, AOL, has plenty I think they do not tell you. They are NOT an Internet Service Provider, ISP, but an online service, sort of a middle man TO AN ISP. That technical or lawful difference reportedly justifies them having a screening or censorship committee. In other words, a NAMELESS, FACELESS CENSORSHIP BOARD. Who are THEY? Under WHAT circumstances do THEY reserve the right or "authority" to block your postings and transmissions? What, if any, is your remedy or recourse? Are they, what is known in public utility and other law, as a Common Carrier, or are they a different animal? Supposing the U.S. has a very serious decline, even a collapse, in the stock and other markets. And suppose as well that at such at time, there is a run on banks. Would the various Internet Service Providers and the Online Services function as before? Or would they obey a secret government directive to silence loudmouths by blocking their E-Mail and other transmissions? On the one hand, Internet, and the World Wide Web, and E-Mail, seem to be a great blessing, countering censorship. On the other hand, great numbers of folks have become overly dependent on the electronic communication. Thus created is a dilemma. (By Sherman H. Skolnick <skolnick@ameritech.net> 1-21-2000) Some see Orwell's 1984 in AOL-Time Warner merger

CBS He and Hoover are bosom, probably bed, partners. And so, Spellman is in a place to be in control of the CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, and through Freemasonry, the Dallas Police Department—like they control every major city’s P.D. And so he carries it out. And then he’s also in control of the press, in control of Time and Life, with Henry Luce, so the press never gets it. He’s in control of CBS, with a man named Frank Shakespeare, who was the head of CBS at the time. So you think Walter Cronkite is going to tell us the truth? No way. He’s in control of CBS, NBC, ABC. They have stocks in it, for heaven’s sake. So, there’s no way the story’s getting out. And he’s in control of the CIA to hit and kill anybody who wants to come out and tell the truth, which is why there’s over a hundred dead witnesses over the last 30 years. That’s why they took out Fensterwald, in 1992, outlined in the book by that CIA agent First Hand Knowledge, by Morrow. He was a CIA agent. He was in on the Kennedy assassination. He completely outlines it in his book, and he tells of that relationship of the CIA to killing Fensterwald. He dedicates his book to Fensterwald. The Black Pope

ELI LILLY CO. Trustee of Eli Lilly Endowment Walter William Wilson - Illuminati, married to Helen Scudder (of the wealthy powerful Scudder family), prominent partner of Morgan, Stanley & Co. controlled by Henry Morgan also a member of the Illuminati. Executive Vice-pres. of Eli Lilly Landrum Bolling, represented Eli Lilly at the secret annual Dartmouth conferences, overseen by the Illuminati. Chairman of Eli Lilly Richard D. Wood, dir, of the Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, Chemical Bank of NY, and the Amer. Enterprise Inst. for Public Policy Research. Dir. Eli Lilly C. William Verity, Jr., dir. Chase Manhattan Bank and assoc. with U.S. intelligence, and works with Mrs. Rockefeller as a member of USTEC. Dan Quayle and George Bush (CIA director and Monarch handler) have been part of Eli Lilly management too. http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/use_of_drugs.htm

Fordham University Cardinal O’Connor is the King of the American Empire. And he rules his Empire from that Palace, St. Patrick’s Cathedral, "the little Vatican". Martin: And is he in contact, do you think, with Kolvenbach? Phelps: Of course. O’Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but the Jesuits are like the SS of the Catholic Church. They maintain order. And the ones closest to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of Fordham University. Now, one of them—the head of Fordham University, I believe he is an Irishman, is also a member of the CFR [Council on Foreign Relations]. And I have that right here in the Annual Report of the CFR of 1993. Those Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance and rule over the Cardinal in New York. And, of course, the powerful Jesuits of Fordham include Avery Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of the writers of the book on the Second Vatican Council. The Black Pope

Knight Templars Known Members: Charles Taze Russell. Founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
 
here are some excerpts from the second page

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/antiamericangroupspt2.htm

MANSANTO CHEMICAL COMPANY President Earle H. Harbison, Jr.-CIA. and director of Bethesada General Hospital where they program Monarch slaves. He is also the president of the Mental Health Association. http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/use_of_drugs.htm

Martha Stuart Communications Martha Stuart, founder and member of the U.S. Association for the Club of Rome. http://watch.pair.com/priory.html

Miller Brewing Company The Culiman's are known for their Miller Brewing Company. The Culiman fortune was also originally derived via a tobacco company. The Duke family via underhanded tactics put together a monopoly of the tobacco industry called the American Tobacco Company. Later they merged and bought out 88 tobacco companies, and the capitalization of the company was $235 million prior to 1911. The Supreme Court made the American Tobacco Company dissolve since it had created an illegal monopoly. However, the Dukes rearranged things and kept on going. The Dukes intermarried with the Biddies who worked with the Rothschild's. The Dukes also intermarried with the Drexels, who in turn intermarried with the Harriman's and Gould's. Nicholas Biddle (1879-1923) was a trustee of the Illuminatus William Astor of the top 13 Illuminati family of Astor's. Some of the Biddies intermarried with the Astors Illuminati family too! It’s a small world at the top. Reynolds

National Hospice Organization Sen. Edward Kennedy was one of the two keynote speakers. What is the hospice movement which is being conducted by the Hospitallers (one of the names the Knights of Malta go by)? It is a movement to allow old people "The Right to Die." The Knights of Malta have an ancient history of running drugs and in administering mind altering drugs in their hospitals instead of giving medicine. This ancient activity was carried forth into modern times when their St. Christopher's hospital in London began giving patients Brompton Mixture until they died. Brompton Mixture consists of heroin, cocaine, alcohol, tranquilizers, and chloroform water. This mixture is given in the Knights of Malta hospitals to patients every three hours until they die. Euthanasia, or "mercy killing" may seem like a merciful idea, until a person finds out how the people at the top of the Euthanasia movement view things. They view things similar to the Satanist Adolf Hitler. This view is that it is merciful to get rid of unwanted people. Although the "death" hospice movement seems benevolent at first, it is the conclusion of where the program will end up that is the kicker. Hospice, Inc. which is linked to the elite is also provided funding by the Kaiser Foundation.

National Teachers Association Dr. King was assigned by the Club of Rome to destroy America's education by taking control of the National Teachers Association and working in close conjunction with certain law makers and judges. Thanks to Dr. King, a man very few people in America know about, education in the U.S. is at its lowest level since 1786. Statistics produced by the Institute for Higher Learning show that the reading and writing capabilities of high school children the United States are LOWER than they were among high school children in 1786.

RJ. Reynolds Tobacco Co. The Reynolds family is behind the RJ. Reynolds Tobacco Co. C. Boyden Gray of the Satanic Grey/Gray family is heir to the RJ. Reynolds Tobacco Co. But don't let that sidetrack you, the Reynolds family still has financial interests and power in the company. If readers remember previous articles on top 13 Illuminati families--specifically, the Astor family article, the Onassis family article and the Li family article you will remember some details that will help you understand the secret illegal drug trade that the Reynold's got involved in.

Standard Oil The very heart of Hitler's war machine was the chemical giant, I.G. Farben, which had an American arm that was controlled by the Rothschild's through their lackeys, the Warburg's. Paul Warburg, who manipulated into existence the privately-owned "central bank" of America, the Federal Reserve, in 1913, was on the board of American I.G. Indeed Hitler's I.G. Farben, which ran the slave labor camp at Auchwitz, was, in reality, a division of Standard Oil, officially owned by the Rockefellers, but in truth the Rockefeller empire was funded into existence by…the Rothschild's.

United Nations Robert Muller is a self-confessed LUCIFERIAN New World Order leader, and a former Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations. Muller is one of the foremost leaders in the New Age/New World Order Movement whose #1 goal is to produce Antichrist so he can rule the newly formed global government. In fact, Muller claims his Guiding Spirit is none other than Master Diwhal Khul [Master D.K.], also referred to as the Tibetan . This demon was the Guiding Spirit of Alice A. Bailey, Director, House of Theosophy. What The United Nations Doesn't Want You To Know The ROCKEFELLER Foundation is the PRIME SPONSOR of public relations for the UNITED NATION'S drastic depopulation program, which the world is invited to accept at the UN's scheduled September conference in Cairo, Egypt. Evidence in the possession of a growing number of researchers in America, England, and Germany demonstrates that the Foundation and its CORPORATE, MEDICAL, and POLITICAL associates organized the racial MASS MURDER program of NAZI GERMANY.

Walt Disney Inc.

Walt Disney, he was a 33 Degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite and his whole life he has spun threads from the Mystery Schools into the children's minds with the purpose of getting them used to the occult for days to come. Tolkien Walt used the Le Sacre du Printemps (the Rite of Spring) music for Fantasia. This piece of music was written AS a pagan ritual where a virgin sacrifices herself by dancing to death. According to CIA informants opposed to the NWO, CIA contractors were brought in to build the underground tunnels under Disneyworld in 1977.

These contractors were sworn to secrecy, but were only informed on a need to know basis why the CIA was involved with an amusement park. To work on the secret tunnel project took an "Above Top Secret" clearance. A major programming center was constructed under Lake Holden. (Many of the lakes in Florida are named Lake So-and-so, rather than So-and-so La ke.) The tunnel system was built for programming trauma-based total mind-controlled slaves.

It was built of concrete with steel reinforcement. Lake Holden lies just to the northwest side of the Orlando International Airport and just south of Interstate 4. (It is close to Range 29E on quad maps.) It is only (as the crow flies) about 12 miles from Disneyworld. In spite of Draconian measures of secrecy, numerous lawsuits (Fed. & State) were filed over the years by victims trying to expose the Disneyworld programming tunnels, so that finally the programming center was dismantled, cleaned up. Disney wanted to put out more "adult" films, they did a slight of hand and created the label Touchstone films so that people wouldn't associate movies like Splash (which showed what looked like bared breasts) with Disney Productions.

Another label, Hollywood Pictures, was created by Disney to help distribute Touchstone films. At first the personnel of these companies was simply Disney's staff, but as time went on, they got their own production personnel.

Warner Brothers Jack Warner Founder of Warner Brothers. Leading motion-picture studio that introduced the first feature-length talking picture. Confirmed Mason.

Taco Bell
W. R. Grace Martin: I’m going to mention a few more names.

Phelps: Oh, J. Peter Grace we forgot. J. Peter Grace was the head of the Knights of Malta in 1963. He is the head of W. R. Grace, and he’s one of the largest shipping tycoons in the world, in control of all the shipping in South America. Grace is a powerful man, or was a powerful man.

Martin: Has anyone filled his shoes?

Phelps: Yes, Flynn is head of the Knights of Malta now, down in Florida where there new office is. They moved from New York to Florida, I think Bocca Raton. They have 11 Knights of Malta on the W. R. Grace board.

And, of course, guess who owns Taco Bell? W. R. Grace.

So now we see W. R. Grace involved in the poisoning of America with fast-food chains, so everybody gets heart disease, clogged arteries, so they can go to bypass surgery and further enrich the medical profession, while carrying out their medical inquisition. Isn’t that clear? So not only are they going to kill all of the American people, but they’re going to make billions doing it.
 
All you McDonalds lovers need to check this page. excerpt below.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_mcdonald_bloodline.htm
The McDonald Bloodline

When one thinks of the name McDonald one immediately thinks of the fast food hamburger chain which has franchises all over the world. The McDonald’s Corp. has been rumored for years to be connected to Satanism. In fact a book which tries to debunk belief in a Satanic conspiracy entitled Satan Wants You reported the rumor that Mc Donald’s owner Ray Kroc tithed to the Church of Satan. (see Satan Wants You, pg. 140).

Ray Kroc does spend time with NWO elites and is a member of the Bohemian Grove. There is no doubt that the McDonald’s Corp. has an inside track with the Illuminati, because the U.S. government has given according to one source 40 million dollars in public tax money to McDonalds to help them set up McDonald Restaurants in foreign countries under the disguise that this was money spent on foreign policy. In 1991, the total of McDonald outlets (restaurants) in the 3 primary European nations of Britain, France and West Germany totaled 959 restaurants.

In spite of the millions of dollars of tax dollars the U.S. has given to McDonalds Corp., the money doesn’t seem to be directly connected to the McDonalds family, because the McDonalds family (Richard and Maurice McDonald known as ‘Dick" and "Mac") which started the restaurants in 1937 were bought out by Ray Kroc around 1954. By the time Ray Kroc had bought out the McDonald brothers, they had a very successful business going. The McDonald brothers lived in the rich section of San Bernardino, and had around 11 McDonald restaurants.

The brothers made about $100,000 profit a year and were quite content. The McDonalds had designed the golden arches and had put together the fast food concept and had been selling franchises. However, the McDonalds were too content. The McDonalds didn’t want to expand, and when Ray Kroc formed McDonald’s System. Inc. on Mar. 2, 1955 after buying out the brothers with borrowed money, he vigorously went to work to develop McDonalds into the International Franchise that it is. Ray Kroc (bn. 10/5/194)2 in Oak Park. Chicago) lived frugally for many years putting his whole life into building up the McDonald’s franchise. It was his drive that took a good idea and changed it from a success in Hollywood and San Bernardino into an international success. Ray Kroc knew a good idea when he saw it, and developed other people’s good ideas into a great success.

James A. Collins, chairman of Collins Foods International, now the largest Kentucky Fried Chicken franchisee and the operator of Sizzler Restaurants talked about his time with the McDonalds in 1952, ‘There was a fraternity of us, and every one of us saw the McDonald’s in San Bernadino and basically copied it after the boys [the McDonald brothers gave us a tour." "We all took our lessons from the Mcdonald brothers," Collins remembers. The concepts that franchises pay for the McDonald brothers were giving out free, and Collins turned around and began getting $100 a day training people from Carnation, with the concepts that the McDonalds had shared. Henry’s Drive Ins and Ken’s were McDonald look-alikes that started from people trained by Collins. Glen Bell who started Taco Bell, who patronized the McDonald’s main restaurant in San Bernandino started Taco Bell from ideas from McDonalds. The first year Collins imitated McDonalds with his own fast food restaurant, Collins made $80,000 a year take home pay. The McDonald brothers became a part of the local elite of San Bernadino, CA along side such rich local families as Guthrie, Stater, and Harris. Readers are reminded of all the articles in my newsletters about how San Bernadino is a major headquarters for the Illuminati and Satanic Hubs because there are so many thousands of practitioners of black magic in the area.

I do know from working with survivors of the Illuminati that the McDonald family has part of their people in the Illuminati. How far back does the McDonald family go in the occult? The McDonald family was a Scottish clan that was part of Druidism. Many of the McDonald have gone on to serve Christ. However, there is still a large powerful contingent of the McDonald family which is connected to the Mystery Religions, and which has family members who are part of the Illuminati. Each of the major Scottish clans had an area that they controlled of Scotland. The McDonalds controlled the islands and coastal areas on the west coast of Scotland. When the Knights Templars tied persecution, in order to escape the various British fleets, they sailed a route that took them to western Scotland. During the time of King Philippe IV of France. the McDonalds were involved in the movement of the Knights Templars. The Knights Templars had adopted Gnostic/satanic practices during the centuries they guarded the pilgrims in the Middle East. The Order had also become the International Bankers of Europe and large landowners in Europe. The King of France twisted the Pope’s arm (so to speak) to get him to go along with a campaign to eliminate the Knights Templars. Because the McDonald clan was in private still pagan. they were willing to help the Knights Templar escape the Pope’s decree against the Templars.
 
bigirl said:
I know I have mentioned before that Dec 25 is not Jesus' birthday but Nimrods(Baals). This should make perfect sense right now:


Cool story, but there never was a king nimrod. Nor a tower of babel.
 
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