Blacks Who Won't Vote for Obama
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i would have not went on television and said i was voting for mccain i would not be suprised sometime soon these dudes got there ass beat down.
The last time i checked this was America! Everyone is not a lemming like you. What's wrong with a man thinking his own thoughts. GEEEEEEZZZZZZ. Open your mind. In the last election in my home town, some white democratic candidate came on television and said " We know we have the black vote". Just like that, as if were the scarecrow with no brain. 
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JAMES T. HARRIS ASK McCAIN TO "BRING THE FIGHT TO OBAMA"
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JAMES T. HARRIS ASK McCAIN TO "BRING THE FIGHT TO OBAMA"
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With respect to blacks who won't vote for Obama, Malcolm said it best, "There are house negroes, and field negroes". "The house negro loved his master more than the master loved himself". "If the master got sick, the house negro would say, 'Whatza mattah boss, WE sick"? "And we still have house negroes and field negroes today".
Not hard to figure which one Mr. James T. Harris is.
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I don't follow the fascination folks have w/black folks who are not going to vote for Obama...some black folks are republicans, some black folks get into cowboy shit, some of us get all into comic books and graphic novels, we aren't all the same...
we marvel over things like this, and will then turn around get pissed off when folks accuse of having a groupthink mentality...
I don't get it.
we marvel over things like this, and will then turn around get pissed off when folks accuse of having a groupthink mentality...
I don't get it.
Elect Obama on his credentials - not him being black.
I understand the fascination. 95% of black people are voting for Obama based on his "credentials." What are the other 5% rebelling against? I would love to see an economic and sociological breakdown of this group.
Should we call them the new five percenters?
It has nothing to do with him being black.
Most Obama supporters would vote for him if
he was a white man without blinking or giving
it a second thought. The bottomline is he's
much more of a positive and have a better plan
than McCain. The fact that he's a black man makes
that decision even easier.
Rememember black folks voted for Carter, Clinton, Gore
and Kerry and last I checked all them dudes are white
as Minnesota in January. Brothers like
James "Uncle Tom" Harris are just pathethic
Most Obama supporters would vote for him if
he was a white man without blinking or giving
it a second thought. The bottomline is he's
much more of a positive and have a better plan
than McCain. The fact that he's a black man makes
that decision even easier.
Rememember black folks voted for Carter, Clinton, Gore
and Kerry and last I checked all them dudes are white
as Minnesota in January. Brothers like
James "Uncle Tom" Harris are just pathethic
All very good points!
I must admit that I am voting for Obama because I like what he has to say and what he has to offer, I'm not "drinkin the punch" just because he's black. If Obama was Asian he would still have my vote. In my opinion McCain is just looking out for his fellow wealthy white males, just more BUSH rhetoric and BULLSHIT!!!
I must admit that I am voting for Obama because I like what he has to say and what he has to offer, I'm not "drinkin the punch" just because he's black. If Obama was Asian he would still have my vote.
In my opinion McCain is just looking out for his fellow wealthy white males, just more BUSH rhetoric and BULLSHIT!!!
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For so long black people have supported white democratic candidates, and now that we support a black democratic candidate...people want to act all skeptical?
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
With respect to blacks who won't vote for Obama, Malcolm said it best, "There are house negroes, and field negroes". "The house negro loved his master more than the master loved himself". "If the master got sick, the house negro would say, 'Whatza mattah boss, WE sick"? "And we still have house negroes and field negroes today".
Not hard to figure which one Mr. James T. Harris is.
How true but I'm willing to bet Harris was a paid plant. Simply because of the statements made.
Excellent point. I've said this numerous times but to the OP, I don't have a problem with any black person who doesn't support my candidate Barack Obama as long as it's legit.
-VG
In all seriousness I'm not so much concerned with which way a black person decides to vote as I am with the black folks that aren't voting at all.
People fought and died for us to have this right.
Ultimately I can agree to disagree with a black republican but I have zero tolerance for a muhfucka thats apathetic.
People fought and died for us to have this right.
Ultimately I can agree to disagree with a black republican but I have zero tolerance for a muhfucka thats apathetic.
All very good points!
I must admit that I am voting for Obama because I like what he has to say and what he has to offer, I'm not "drinkin the punch" just because he's black. If Obama was Asian he would still have my vote.
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The last time i checked this was America! Everyone is not a lemming like you. What's wrong with a man thinking his own thoughts. GEEEEEEZZZZZZ. Open your mind. In the last election in my home town, some white democratic candidate came on television and said " We know we have the black vote". Just like that, as if were the scarecrow with no brain.
Everything you all said was on point BUT.....Anyone...and I mean ANYONE who votes for Mcain Palin...is contributing to the destruction of this country. Period...for me I have come conservative views...actually Alot of my views maybe considered conservative but I will NOT VOTE FOR A PARTY....I will vote for THE BEST CANDIDATE for the job. And that is what the family in that 1st vid doesn't realize. They are voting for PARTY not the best candidate...they want to be so called different all the while having their head in the sand ignoring the reality of what is happening around them.
I am voting for Obama because he is the best candidate for the job not because he is black...if he was jewish...asian....hell even mexican...he'd get my vote....on the flip side. I admire McCain for what he did for his country and what he was put through and Iactually liked dude until he decided it was time to stop being himself and "play the game"
Why some blacks still might not vote for Obama
Why some blacks still might not vote for Obama
By Earl Ofari Hutchinson Earl Ofari Hutchinson Thu Oct 16, 4:00 am ET
Los Angeles – For the first time in history, an African American looks close to winning the presidency. Throughout his campaign, Sen. Barack Obama has faced a blunt question: Can he win enough white voters to win? It's a question that's as much about race as it is about electability.
A recent study out of Stanford University suggests that racial prejudice is eroding as much as 6 percentage points from Senator Obama's support. One commentator has even suggested that white racism would be the only explanation for an Obama loss this November.
But there's another facet to this story – and it could prove to be equally decisive: the reluctance of some black voters to vote for Obama.
A New York Times poll taken this past July showed that 6 percent of black respondents say that they wouldn't vote for a black candidate (presumably Obama). Just 5 percent of white respondents said the same.
What's behind this black resistance to Obama?
More than a few blacks grumble that Obama will be blamed for the financial mess, which may only get worse on his watch. If he gets blamed for it, the thinking goes, somehow it will blow back on blacks due to the infuriating racial double standard in which the failing of one is regarded as a failing for all blacks.
Then there's the age-old rap that blacks who don't support other blacks for political office or anything else are filled with self-loathing and color phobia – in reverse. This racial self-hate supposedly rears its ugly head every time a black tries to get ahead.
And there's also the persistent fear that if Obama wins, he will be in perpetual danger of being assassinated.
But none of this totally explains the trepidation and reluctance of some blacks to back Obama.
Here's the point that's often missed: Blacks aren't and never have been of one mind on anything, nor should they be. Blacks are as varied and diverse in their social and political views as any other demographic, and that includes embracing conservative social and religious positions.
This was plainly evident in the presidential battle in Ohio and Florida in 2004. Bush racked up double digit vote percentages among black voters. He did it by shrewdly appealing to the hard opposition of many blacks to abortion, gay marriage, and their support of school vouchers.
Polls have also shown that a significant number of blacks oppose welfare, back the death penalty, and support black anti-affirmative crusader Ward Connerly's state initiatives banning affirmative action programs in public hiring. To many socially conservative blacks, Obama is simply a too-liberal, tax-and-spend-Democrat for their tastes.
But while conservatives are still a very distinct minority of black voters, it doesn't mean that all blacks will instinctively back a black candidate. Nowhere was that more apparent than the 2006 midterm elections.
Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, pro football great Lynn Swann in Pennsylvania, and Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele – all Republicans – banked heavily on getting black voter support. In fact, none of the three black Republicans came anywhere close to getting a majority of the black vote. This was not an aberration.
Blacks have even backed white Democratic incumbents against black challengers in Democratic primaries. The issue for them was the real and perceived notion that the incumbent had done and would continue to do a better job in improving education, getting increased funding for job programs, and neighborhood services.
It's true that blacks have ritually given Democratic presidential candidates 80 to 90 percent of their vote since the 1960s, when Democrats embraced civil rights. But it's also true that a small percentage of black voters have backed white Republican presidential candidates even though the GOP turned a cold shoulder toward them for decades. To be sure, the small percent of blacks who say they would not vote for a black candidate reflect a number of lingering fears that need to be addressed.
It's worth remembering though that the overwhelming majority of black voters are thrilled to be supporting Obama.
When Obama needed a surge in the South Carolina primary in January, Oprah delivered. She made an impassioned pitch for Obama to mostly black audiences in South Carolina and they delivered. Thousands more turned out there than did in the 2004 Democratic primary and they gave him more than 90 percent of their vote. That type of support continued through the primaries.
But the few black who won't support Obama are proof that blacks, like anyone else, make political choices based on many factors – and color isn't always one of them.
• Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His new book is "The Ethnic Presidency: How Race Decides the Race to the White House."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081016/cm_csm/yhutchinson
Why some blacks still might not vote for Obama
By Earl Ofari Hutchinson Earl Ofari Hutchinson Thu Oct 16, 4:00 am ET
Los Angeles – For the first time in history, an African American looks close to winning the presidency. Throughout his campaign, Sen. Barack Obama has faced a blunt question: Can he win enough white voters to win? It's a question that's as much about race as it is about electability.
A recent study out of Stanford University suggests that racial prejudice is eroding as much as 6 percentage points from Senator Obama's support. One commentator has even suggested that white racism would be the only explanation for an Obama loss this November.
But there's another facet to this story – and it could prove to be equally decisive: the reluctance of some black voters to vote for Obama.
A New York Times poll taken this past July showed that 6 percent of black respondents say that they wouldn't vote for a black candidate (presumably Obama). Just 5 percent of white respondents said the same.
What's behind this black resistance to Obama?
More than a few blacks grumble that Obama will be blamed for the financial mess, which may only get worse on his watch. If he gets blamed for it, the thinking goes, somehow it will blow back on blacks due to the infuriating racial double standard in which the failing of one is regarded as a failing for all blacks.
Then there's the age-old rap that blacks who don't support other blacks for political office or anything else are filled with self-loathing and color phobia – in reverse. This racial self-hate supposedly rears its ugly head every time a black tries to get ahead.
And there's also the persistent fear that if Obama wins, he will be in perpetual danger of being assassinated.
But none of this totally explains the trepidation and reluctance of some blacks to back Obama.
Here's the point that's often missed: Blacks aren't and never have been of one mind on anything, nor should they be. Blacks are as varied and diverse in their social and political views as any other demographic, and that includes embracing conservative social and religious positions.
This was plainly evident in the presidential battle in Ohio and Florida in 2004. Bush racked up double digit vote percentages among black voters. He did it by shrewdly appealing to the hard opposition of many blacks to abortion, gay marriage, and their support of school vouchers.
Polls have also shown that a significant number of blacks oppose welfare, back the death penalty, and support black anti-affirmative crusader Ward Connerly's state initiatives banning affirmative action programs in public hiring. To many socially conservative blacks, Obama is simply a too-liberal, tax-and-spend-Democrat for their tastes.
But while conservatives are still a very distinct minority of black voters, it doesn't mean that all blacks will instinctively back a black candidate. Nowhere was that more apparent than the 2006 midterm elections.
Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, pro football great Lynn Swann in Pennsylvania, and Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele – all Republicans – banked heavily on getting black voter support. In fact, none of the three black Republicans came anywhere close to getting a majority of the black vote. This was not an aberration.
Blacks have even backed white Democratic incumbents against black challengers in Democratic primaries. The issue for them was the real and perceived notion that the incumbent had done and would continue to do a better job in improving education, getting increased funding for job programs, and neighborhood services.
It's true that blacks have ritually given Democratic presidential candidates 80 to 90 percent of their vote since the 1960s, when Democrats embraced civil rights. But it's also true that a small percentage of black voters have backed white Republican presidential candidates even though the GOP turned a cold shoulder toward them for decades. To be sure, the small percent of blacks who say they would not vote for a black candidate reflect a number of lingering fears that need to be addressed.
It's worth remembering though that the overwhelming majority of black voters are thrilled to be supporting Obama.
When Obama needed a surge in the South Carolina primary in January, Oprah delivered. She made an impassioned pitch for Obama to mostly black audiences in South Carolina and they delivered. Thousands more turned out there than did in the 2004 Democratic primary and they gave him more than 90 percent of their vote. That type of support continued through the primaries.
But the few black who won't support Obama are proof that blacks, like anyone else, make political choices based on many factors – and color isn't always one of them.
• Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. His new book is "The Ethnic Presidency: How Race Decides the Race to the White House."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20081016/cm_csm/yhutchinson
Re: Why some blacks still might not vote for Obama
I respect his opinion but again, I think Earl Ofari Hutchinson over thinks stuff. Those who believe Obama might be blamed for the financial mess so they won't vote for him as well as a lot of these results eroding as much as 6 points?
Why only 6? Why not 10? Why not 30 or just 2 percentage points?
And where will those votes go? Will they not vote at all? Will they head to Mccain?
If they don't vote at all, how could they be apart of any concern for the electorate since those are simply part of those who have no interest in politics, such as Jehovah Witnesses. And what about those whites who say they won't vote for a black man but will and or do? Seems those statistics almost NEVER get entered into or factored in any of these bullshit surveys. Can't tell me they don't exist either because if you do, all of this shit should be thrown out.
Votes going to McCain to put blame on him simply makes no rational sense since you can't parse out black tax dollars paid to the government from whites. So how can you quantify any of the results from this "study" and claim this is some real cause of concern?
Finally those whites who won't vote Obama wasn't counted in the numbers needed for an Obama win. This is somebody's term paper trying to pass for a real study. And Mr. Earl should know better.
-VG
I respect his opinion but again, I think Earl Ofari Hutchinson over thinks stuff. Those who believe Obama might be blamed for the financial mess so they won't vote for him as well as a lot of these results eroding as much as 6 points?
Why only 6? Why not 10? Why not 30 or just 2 percentage points?
And where will those votes go? Will they not vote at all? Will they head to Mccain?
If they don't vote at all, how could they be apart of any concern for the electorate since those are simply part of those who have no interest in politics, such as Jehovah Witnesses. And what about those whites who say they won't vote for a black man but will and or do? Seems those statistics almost NEVER get entered into or factored in any of these bullshit surveys. Can't tell me they don't exist either because if you do, all of this shit should be thrown out.
Votes going to McCain to put blame on him simply makes no rational sense since you can't parse out black tax dollars paid to the government from whites. So how can you quantify any of the results from this "study" and claim this is some real cause of concern?
Finally those whites who won't vote Obama wasn't counted in the numbers needed for an Obama win. This is somebody's term paper trying to pass for a real study. And Mr. Earl should know better.
-VG
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I'm black and I'm not voting for either one 
It has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with Obama personally. It's the Democratic party I'm against. It has nothing to do with McCain personally. It's the Republican party I'm against.
Neither party represents what I believe in, nor the direction I would like to see this country go. So neither candidate will be recieving my vote.
It has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with Obama personally. It's the Democratic party I'm against. It has nothing to do with McCain personally. It's the Republican party I'm against.
Neither party represents what I believe in, nor the direction I would like to see this country go. So neither candidate will be recieving my vote.
I'm black and I'm not voting for either one
It has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with Obama personally. It's the Democratic party I'm against. It has nothing to do with McCain personally. It's the Republican party I'm against.
Neither party represents what I believe in, nor the direction I would like to see this country go. So neither candidate will be recieving my vote.
How about a sample of where you like to see the country go?
-VG
Let me state once again VG that it's not against Senator Obama, but the party, platform, ideas he represents. The same for Senator McCain.
I plan on voting Libertarian this time around because I find as I get older my views align more to what that party represents. Rather than go through all the talking points of the party I'll just let anyone interested, read up on it for themselves.
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