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I need my speakers fixed...so much stuff coming out that I can't hear...:( But when I find my earphones or someone posts a summary I'll give you my input.


But based off of your quote, (and I'm assuming), if Black hair is complex hair, does that make us complex? :confused:
 
melonpecan said:
I need my speakers fixed...so much stuff coming out that I can't hear...:( But when I find my earphones or someone posts a summary I'll give you my input.


But based off of your quote, (and I'm assuming), if Black hair is complex hair, does that make us complex? :confused:
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That was a comment he made about the grade of hair we as black people have. The grade is called 9 ether...




What kind of hair do black people have?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080716085245AA8XPQP
 
Good post..

I think Tariq? made good points. The main one being that regardless of if you are relaxed or natural, health of your hair should be the most important thing and that this goes along with being physically healthy, and that that should be our focus. So many women ask how do you get your hair to grow? Well it really does start from the inside out. You have to be able to focus on health and not length and understand that if it's healthy it will grow as it should.

It was also good that he pointed out that black hair is complex and that means it takes more to manage, but that doesn't make it unmanageable. I think that that is key to how we perceive our hair, and if we perceive it as unmanageable we will treat it in that way (using quick fixes, too much hair coloring, and not enough upkeep).

Another good point, is product usage, I think over the counter hair products are not always the best, and that sometimes you have to invest in good quality hair products. But with that being said olive oil, shea butter, coconut oil and black soap are all things that are cheap and natural and better for your hair. The most important thing is to know whats IN products and what they DO to your hair, BEFORE you use them.
 
IntelligentDyme said:
Good post..

I think Tariq? made good points. The main one being that regardless of if you are relaxed or natural, health of your hair should be the most important thing and that this goes along with being physically healthy, and that that should be our focus. So many women ask how do you get your hair to grow? Well it really does start from the inside out. You have to be able to focus on health and not length and understand that if it's healthy it will grow as it should.

It was also good that he pointed out that black hair is complex and that means it takes more to manage, but that doesn't make it unmanageable. I think that that is key to how we perceive our hair, and if we perceive it as unmanageable we will treat it in that way (using quick fixes, too much hair coloring, and not enough upkeep).

Another good point, is product usage, I think over the counter hair products are not always the best, and that sometimes you have to invest in good quality hair products. But with that being said olive oil, shea butter, coconut oil and black soap are all things that are cheap and natural and better for your hair. The most important thing is to know whats IN products and what they DO to your hair, BEFORE you use them.
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Thanks for checking the clip out and replying ID...
 
Taking care of our natural hair is not any more difficult than others once we get the right products and a little professional help. Doesn't take long no matter what style you choose; it is cheaper; we can stop trying to always have perfect hair days everyday. Hair grows from the inside out, so what you put into your body affects the health of your hair.

CT's are you going to see "Good Hair"?
 
IntelligentDyme said:
Good post..

I think Tariq? made good points. The main one being that regardless of if you are relaxed or natural, health of your hair should be the most important thing and that this goes along with being physically healthy, and that that should be our focus. So many women ask how do you get your hair to grow? Well it really does start from the inside out. You have to be able to focus on health and not length and understand that if it's healthy it will grow as it should.
It was also good that he pointed out that black hair is complex and that means it takes more to manage, but that doesn't make it unmanageable. I think that that is key to how we perceive our hair, and if we perceive it as unmanageable we will treat it in that way (using quick fixes, too much hair coloring, and not enough upkeep).

Another good point, is product usage, I think over the counter hair products are not always the best, and that sometimes you have to invest in good quality hair products. But with that being said olive oil, shea butter, coconut oil and black soap are all things that are cheap and natural and better for your hair. The most important thing is to know whats IN products and what they DO to your hair, BEFORE you use them.
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followup said:
Taking care of our natural hair is not any more difficult than others once we get the right products and a little professional help. Doesn't take long no matter what style you choose; it is cheaper; we can stop trying to always have perfect hair days everyday. Hair grows from the inside out, so what you put into your body affects the health of your hair.

CT's are you going to see "Good Hair"?
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Good posts ladies!
 
followup said:
Taking care of our natural hair is not any more difficult than others once we get the right products and a little professional help. Doesn't take long no matter what style you choose; it is cheaper; we can stop trying to always have perfect hair days everyday. Hair grows from the inside out, so what you put into your body affects the health of your hair.

CT's are you going to see "Good Hair"?
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I'm not sure. Are you going to see it?

Izayoi said:
Good posts ladies!
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Yes, they both made good points.
 
So, have you all had the chance to listen to this yet? What are your thoughts on what Tariq said? Anything you didn't know agreed or disagreed with? Come on regulars, come on lurkers, let's talk about this. Holla at us...



*Waits...*
 
Hey I just listened to this :lol:.
This dude is one character.
He makes some good points but I don't know if I would agree ALL weave is lazy. Some women do it to change a look.
Also, like ID mentioned good products can be natural, inexpensive products.
 
Wow!!! Getting your hair done was the most important thing after slavery:smh::smh:

So glad I'm not in this category. I grew up poor and with that I learned how to do my own hair---perm, dye, wrap etc. I have somewhat of an advantage being that my hair is naturally curly and quite manageable. But I'm sorry if my hair was short and nappy it still wouldn't be that damn important. And can I say as a dark sistah I am sick of my black brotha's and sistahs coming to me trying to run their fingers through my hair to see if they can find tracks. Just because you see something everyday doesn't mean that is all there is;).
 
followup said:
Absolutely! :yes: He is hilarious. Unfortunately a lot of the women who really need to see it will not :dunno:
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Cool, will you give us your thoughts on the film after seeing it?

Izayoi said:
Hey I just listened to this :lol:.
This dude is one character.
He makes some good points but I don't know if I would agree ALL weave is lazy. Some women do it to change a look.
Also, like ID mentioned good products can be natural, inexpensive products.
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Yeah, Tariq is a character, but as you said he makes good points. I enjoy the show, and I think there are topics on there that we all can relate to. As I said in the beginning of this thread, I may post other things (from there) for the men and women of SOL to listen to and discuss...

Digital Angel said:
Wow!!! Getting your hair done was the most important thing after slavery:smh::smh:

So glad I'm not in this category. I grew up poor and with that I learned how to do my own hair---perm, dye, wrap etc. I have somewhat of an advantage being that my hair is naturally curly and quite manageable. But I'm sorry if my hair was short and nappy it still wouldn't be that damn important. And can I say as a dark sistah I am sick of my black brotha's and sistahs coming to me trying to run their fingers through my hair to see if they can find tracks. Just because you see something everyday doesn't mean that is all there is;).
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Thanks for sharing...
 
OK I just found some earphones again so I gotta listen to this.

But CT I looked at that link


I will say I never heard of the 9ether and 6ether but I have read books for years describing white people's hair as dead and the Black man's hair as alive.


Now I could care less what is other folks head, but I could never for the life of me understand why if the Black man's hair is so alive and full of life why do so many people want dead hair? If it's alive and you try to make it look dead as if through heat and chemicals, why do you get upset if it 'lives', (you know ladies, the frizz, the rising, that stuff that happens when you bevel your hair and you go somewhere humid). Now I have not always been natural in my hair but I have loved my hair the most when it is. I probably have not had my last perm either, but only because I like a change every now and again. but it really upsets me if people equate good hair as something that is not their own.

DA, hair is important to black people. Look at Madam Walker.

Followup, I agree with you. But I think the problem with taking care of our natural hair comes when you try to find someone to teach you. All my mother knows how to do is braid. No perms, nothing else. Everyone around me only knows these two things. NO ONE AROUND ME KNOWS HOW TO DO NATURAL HAIR STYLES OR HOW TO TAKE CARE OF IT NATURALLY. Some of the things I am doing to my hair now I had to look on the net to find out how others manage not have a mess on their head. I can do a search on salons in my area and get dozens of hits, but let me type in natural hair salon and the world ends. If this type of information was better accessed by the general public like what kind of Yaki is best or I need that 32B then you might see natural hair styles more often. But that is just my opinion.
 
tell me this why is it if you want to buy weave or "yaki" as so mentioned, you can find a gang of Arabs and Asians selling it. I've never been to a black hair supply store. Unless you mention Sallys but the person behind the counter is too busy trying to sell me the lotions and shit up front.:angry:
 
melonpecan said:
OK I just found some earphones again so I gotta listen to this.

But CT I looked at that link


I will say I never heard of the 9ether and 6ether but I have read books for years describing white people's hair as dead and the Black man's hair as alive.


Now I could care less what is other folks head, but I could never for the life of me understand why if the Black man's hair is so alive and full of life why do so many people want dead hair? If it's alive and you try to make it look dead as if through heat and chemicals, why do you get upset if it 'lives', (you know ladies, the frizz, the rising, that stuff that happens when you bevel your hair and you go somewhere humid). Now I have not always been natural in my hair but I have loved my hair the most when it is. I probably have not had my last perm either, but only because I like a change every now and again. but it really upsets me if people equate good hair as something that is not their own.

DA, hair is important to black people. Look at Madam Walker.

Followup, I agree with you. But I think the problem with taking care of our natural hair comes when you try to find someone to teach you. All my mother knows how to do is braid. No perms, nothing else. Everyone around me only knows these two things. NO ONE AROUND ME KNOWS HOW TO DO NATURAL HAIR STYLES OR HOW TO TAKE CARE OF IT NATURALLY. Some of the things I am doing to my hair now I had to look on the net to find out how others manage not have a mess on their head. I can do a search on salons in my area and get dozens of hits, but let me type in natural hair salon and the world ends. If this type of information was better accessed by the general public like what kind of Yaki is best or I need that 32B then you might see natural hair styles more often. But that is just my opinion.
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Good points so far Mel, especially in that last paragraph. I think the problem you mentioned is key in how things are perceived. If you have no one to teach you it's harder to learn. Not impossible, just harder. That's something that can be said about every part of life, but in this context it's about natural hair... I hope you come back and holla after listening to the show...
 
followup said:
Probably not. I can predict the reactions on SOL :dunno:
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I feel you. I checked Tariq's site earlier and he's got another show on this topic. I'll listen to it tonight or tomorrow, and then post it for you all to check out as well...
 
Digital Angel said:
tell me this why is it if you want to buy weave or "yaki" as so mentioned, you can find a gang of Arabs and Asians selling it. I've never been to a black hair supply store. Unless you mention Sallys but the person behind the counter is too busy trying to sell me the lotions and shit up front.:angry:
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Come to find out it's the Asians that cut their hair off and sell it...when you see Asian's in the beauty supply that's probably them bringing you the low, low prices cutting out the middle man.


CT Im'ma try to listen to it tonight. I'm tired of packing...:(
 
melonpecan said:
Come to find out it's the Asians that cut their hair off and sell it...when you see Asian's in the beauty supply that's probably them bringing you the low, low prices cutting out the middle man.


CT Im'ma try to listen to it tonight. I'm tired of packing...:(
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Mel, let us know what you think after you have the chance to listen to this show...
 
I listened. I agree with ID but I'll be less generous and say that people are just lazy and they're so lazy that they'd rather put a chemical that can eat through a coke can on their heads than to wait and see what their hair will do on it's own. You have 5 year-olds whose mothers are rushing to get them a PCJ.

Those who are natural can probably attest to the fact that after they stopped perming and their true hair grew in, it wasn't the mangled, unruly, web of despair that they had been taught that it was but they never knew it. This goes back to my long-held belief that people in the diaspora just don't know who they are. When you don't know who you are, of course you'll have problems managing your hair, diet, etc...
 
Mrs.BCAA2009 said:
I listened. I agree with ID but I'll be less generous and say that people are just lazy and they're so lazy that they'd rather put a chemical that can eat through a coke can on their heads than to wait and see what their hair will do on it's own. You have 5 year-olds whose mothers are rushing to get them a PCJ.

Those who are natural can probably attest to the fact that after they stopped perming and their true hair grew in, it wasn't the mangled, unruly, web of despair that they had been taught that it was but they never knew it. This goes back to my long-held belief that people in the diaspora just don't know who they are. When you don't know who you are, of course you'll have problems managing your hair, diet, etc...
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Good points. Thanks for posting...
 
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