Black Women Deserve More Respect

Well that's the issue to me. Black women don't get basic HUMAN respect. Women in general are overall mistreated. Shit on. But black women don't even get human decency respect from a great deal TOO many. I'm not a feminist, i'm a humanist. I want human decency displayed. Acted upon. Nobody should respect me because i have a vagina. Respect the fact that i'm a living breathing entity just like you. A brain, blood. Muscle tissue that can make me do tasks, just like you. A brain that allows me to think and figure out things, just like you. I can decide for myself who and what, and where and how. I can see a puddle and step over it, just like you. I don't believe in chivalry and i don't expect it. Black women are the mothers of the black men who are capable of achieving so much, they deserve human respect. Between black men and women there is a serious lacking of that.

Black people born in america are in a unique situation where they have to rely on each other. But there's a gob massive amount who are still under a blindfold, and still believe in the ways of their oppressor. I am not less. I am equal. Africans for the most part believed in this concept. Natives in america believed in that concept. Black women were toiling in the fucking sun and being raped and murdered just like the men were. But yet you've got all these black men. Who see their women as LESS. Who see themselves as LESS. And the whites as more. Black men don't respect themselves. So they can't respect their women.

Can't argue with that. Hell, it was better written than the OP. You need a column.
 
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Thank you!!!!!!!

Threads made on other races of women arent met with "oh we only like the good ones" ... they just focus on the good and dont even bring up the bad ... but when it comes to us they ALWAYS have to remind us that so many of us are not deserving INSTEAD of just focusing on the deserving ones like they do for white, asian, latina women etc
Thank God for brothas like you :yes::yes:


That's because they only know one or two women of another ethnicity and they were "nice" or let him fuck.

But let's not pretend it's only the men on the board who just lump everybody together.
 
:) lol

Threads made on other races of women arent met with "oh we only like the good ones" ... they just focus on the good and dont even bring up the bad ... but when it comes to us they ALWAYS have to remind us that so many of us are not deserving INSTEAD of just focusing on the deserving ones like they do for white, asian, latina women etc

Thank God for brothas like you :yes::yes:

This is true. Does have a point here.
 
Nonsense. The main board is as it is (a "jungle" is a good term) and you either deal or you don't. A vagina doesn't give you extra protection or consideration on a porn board.
I'm against running anyone off the board, even the blatant trolls. I'm shocked when people allow themselves to be run off the board in the first place.
It is odd to see women or anyone shocked at misogyny and disrespect on ostensibly a porn messageboard.

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Nonsense...damn I aint been hit with that since grade school:D
I see your point though, if you want to play with the boys you gotta expect to hit. That was the basis of my JUNGLE point.

OK, but that dont mean as black men hell men period we shouldn't treat the women differently.

Why not?
I hold the door watch my language etc. for women ESPECIALLY Black women.

So I think even on a porn board we should at minimum give em a little leeway, NOT A PASS NOW, leeway.

Its convenient that we stress it a porn board when it suits us but there is always a thread championing the premise that BGOL is MORE then just a porn board and if we we were more united etc etc.

So why cant we try to NOT run women off on some bullshit when we allow other members to get away with slick shit.

Trolling and "characters" of course give BGOL its flavor but we should have guidelines like anyone else.

These dudes run off woman on some jealousy shit taking WAY to much pleasure in degrading Black women SPECIFICALLY and its mad suspect.
 
These dudes run off woman on some jealousy shit taking WAY to much pleasure in degrading Black women SPECIFICALLY and its mad suspect.

Pretty much. I don't give a fuck about hanging around these assholes but why is it acceptable for me to be followed thread to thread by some asshole that is talking shit about me regardless of the topic? I don't see any men having to deal with that stupid shit but because I decide to post on the main board it's something I have to take? Uh no.
 
Well that's the issue to me. Black women don't get basic HUMAN respect. Women in general are overall mistreated. Shit on. But black women don't even get human decency respect from a great deal TOO many. I'm not a feminist, i'm a humanist. I want human decency displayed. Acted upon. Nobody should respect me because i have a vagina. Respect the fact that i'm a living breathing entity just like you. A brain, blood. Muscle tissue that can make me do tasks, just like you. A brain that allows me to think and figure out things, just like you. I can decide for myself who and what, and where and how. I can see a puddle and step over it, just like you. I don't believe in chivalry and i don't expect it. Black women are the mothers of the black men who are capable of achieving so much, they deserve human respect. Between black men and women there is a serious lacking of that.


Black people born in america are in a unique situation where they have to rely on each other. But there's a gob massive amount who are still under a blindfold, and still believe in the ways of their oppressor. I am not less. I am equal. Africans for the most part believed in this concept. Natives in america believed in that concept. Black women were toiling in the fucking sun and being raped and murdered just like the men were. But yet you've got all these black men. Who see their women as LESS. Who see themselves as LESS. And the whites as more. Black men don't respect themselves. So they can't respect their women.



And let the church say..."Amen..."
 
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I really feel for women and men actually that can't make peace with the other gender (in their psyche):(

It's as bad as Romney lies....learn this now all of your issues are your and yours
only and if you live a life blaming others for how YOU feel you are lost.

If when you read this you wanna hate me then Right there!...that's it!
 
Nonsense...damn I aint been hit with that since grade school:D


:lol::lol: I try not to "bullshit" all the time. I save it for when someone is just blatantly lying. A simple disagreement doesnt' warrant that kind of harsh, unreasonable language.

I see your point though, if you want to play with the boys you gotta expect to hit. That was the basis of my JUNGLE point.

OK, but that dont mean as black men hell men period we shouldn't treat the women differently.

Why not?
I hold the door watch my language etc. for women ESPECIALLY Black women.

So I think even on a porn board we should at minimum give em a little leeway, NOT A PASS NOW, leeway.

Its convenient that we stress it a porn board when it suits us but there is always a thread championing the premise that BGOL is MORE then just a porn board and if we we were more united etc etc.

So why cant we try to NOT run women off on some bullshit when we allow other members to get away with slick shit.

Trolling and "characters" of course give BGOL its flavor but we should have guidelines like anyone else.

These dudes run off woman on some jealousy shit taking WAY to much pleasure in degrading Black women SPECIFICALLY and its mad suspect.

That last statement is damn true. There are some unhappy, powerless dudes on the main and they take out their frustration with their own lives here and a lot of times they go after some of the women.
But it's really up to each individual on whether someone "runs" them off. Some people are going to remember some shit you said to them 3 yrs ago and hold that grudge forever and if they see your name, they will pop up to start some new shit. But it's not all one way. Truth decided to start a LS thread for whatever reason and there were quite a few of us :smh: in the thread. So much that he got mad at us and bitched about us "caping" for her (an immature term if there ever was one). She doesn't even like me:lol: so how was I caping for her in just telling him that the shit was corny?
The main board can be savage as hell. Those guys that spend all their time doing nothing but downing Black women get it too. They ran Heat Mizer off the board and he's a grown man in his 40s(I think).
It's not a bad idea of giving women some leeway but it's completely unenforceable and it does defeat the idea of "equality". I'm for treating everyone with that human respect Tuff talked about (and so eloquently too).
But on the main board, it's cyber Fight Club. If you don't want to participate, that's what SOL and the other boards are for. Que runs a pretty tight Politics board.
One last thing, I know there are other things on here other than porn but that's what it is. The porn threads are the longest and most popular. It just turned into a place where at first Black men and later some women (and quite a few others) could come and talk about whatever we wanted. It's still a porn board. Hell, the hottest thread on SOL is LoneStar's porn thread:D.
 
That last statement is damn true. There are some unhappy, powerless dudes on the main and they take out their frustration with their own lives here and a lot of times they go after some of the women.

It's not a bad idea of giving women some leeway but it's completely unenforceable and it does defeat the idea of "equality". I'm for treating everyone with that human respect Tuff talked about (and so eloquently too).

But on the main board, it's cyber Fight Club. If you don't want to participate, that's what SOL and the other boards are for. Que runs a pretty tight Politics board.

One last thing, I know there are other things on here other than porn but that's what it is. The porn threads are the longest and most popular. It just turned into a place where at first Black men and later some women (and quite a few others) could come and talk about whatever we wanted. It's still a porn board. Hell, the hottest thread on SOL is LoneStar's porn thread:D.

we are in agreement brother.:cool:
 
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I don't get what? Enlighten me. Why should a collective of women who are not only notorious but EMBRACE in some cases...

-European fashions: blue eye contacts, straight hair blonde wigs etc.. Why would any self respecting black woman want to physically emulate white woman?

why do black dudes (not me) lust after those white women with those looks? why do black dudes, dress like european men? why do some black dudes feel the need to shave their facial hair to appear less threatening to white people? why do black men look down on black men with locks and other forms of hair and tell them to "grow up" and get a haircut...for who? why? who's standard of beauty and acceptance is that? why are we seen as self respecting when we aren't walking around bucking social acceptance by and large?




-Single parent households: it's the women's FINAL CHOICE in whether to have a child or not.


Its the man choice on whether or not even allow a woman to get his dick.. and even then its his final choice on whether or not to even share his seed... why share your seed with someone who ain't worthy of it who you see no future with? why be at the mercy of someone else? a chick can ask and even beg you to fuck raw and cum in her. as a man with self control, sense of responsibility, and character you for damn sure don't HAVE TO do it


-Overweight/obesity: I'm THICK and it's killing me!


there are just as many fat dudes as there are fat ass women. dudes just use money to hide their weight and woman because they're looked at as objects can't do that as well unless they're white.. then dudes will give any excuse to fuck with any low form of decrepit white chick or other chick "Cause she's paid" I am physically fit in good ass shape, and i demand someone who wears their weight well. but most of the dudes complaining about chicks being fat...are fat asses themselves.

-Public image: combative, argumentative, hostile etc. If you are not this while allow others represent you like that and not call them to the carpet.

don't say public image, say white perception and enforced by lost assimilated amulet black dudes who buy into that shit to become part of the "brotherhood" on some see, we can't stand that shit either white man! we're just the same! who's in charge of the media? not us black men or women so who's ultimately responsible for the stereotypes being thrown out there? you need to go into my yurugu thread, perfect week of discussion about this..
 
I had to say something lmaooooooooooooo it's not too often you come across a black man of substance on here that completely destroys the lame shit others say with facts every time lol
 
The two biggest obstacles to positive Black men are the "Angry White Male" and his counterpart...in Black-face, the "Strong Black Woman". The former doesn't like the positive Black man for silly shit like, "That fucking ****** took my job," when in fact that fucking robot took your job. The latter has likely been raised by ANOTHER "Strong Black Woman", who realized after three kids by three different baby daddies...that she was just subconsciously following the precedent(s) set by her mother, who more than likely was single, and gave away more pussy than the ASPCA. Now she's bitter about having to work a job and fuck some lame-ass nigga who's in love with the stretched out pussy...in order to make ends meet.

I'm SOOOOOO glad that I distance myself from those type of Black women, and click up with a forward thinking type of Black woman. I've had my fill during my lifetime...and the females I've mentioned earlier deserve NOTHING but basic human respect.
 
The two biggest obstacles to positive Black men are the "Angry White Male" and his counterpart...in Black-face, the "Strong Black Woman". The former doesn't like the positive Black man for silly shit like, "That fucking ****** took my job," when in fact that fucking robot took your job. The latter has likely been raised by ANOTHER "Strong Black Woman", who realized after three kids by three different baby daddies...that she was just subconsciously following the precedent(s) set by her mother, who more than likely was single, and gave away more pussy than the ASPCA. Now she's bitter about having to work a job and fuck some lame-ass nigga who's in love with the stretched out pussy...in order to make ends meet.

I don't know bruh that's a generalization that i cannot get with.
a strong black woman is none of those things, so i wouldn't put those labels onto them loose, immoral, multiple kids and multiple baby fathers, that sounds like some shit the white man counterpart would say.

we probably shouldn't look at any of our women as the enemy for future reference though. The ones who have made mistakes do have the ability to learn and grow, and if they don't you do have the ability to try and guide and teach them. Not even to be with them romantically, but to ensure they have a positive outlook on life so that their children will have one also. WE as the leaders have to change that cycle, it is not easy nor for the weak. it is our duty though. i look at the women with 3 kids 3 different daddies and i think, why did #2 and #3 have unprotected sex with her, knowing she is going to keep the child, and why are none of them making sure they have the kid since she's so trifling? we got responsibility in that shit too, regardless if its their option to keep a baby or not, they don't even have the power to make one without us. its OUR sperm. we control life before they control life. that's just how i see it.



I'm SOOOOOO glad that I distance myself from those type of Black women, and click up with a forward thinking type of Black woman. I've had my fill during my lifetime...and the females I've mentioned earlier deserve NOTHING but basic human respect.

That's another thing, what is distancing yourself doing? making yourself feel better about who you associate with, leaving the others by the wayside to just be? what's forward thinking? you've had your fill with the earlier described so what kind of dude are you then? what makes you so good that NOW you can rid yourself of the company you kept? what changed? and why is there hope for you and not for them?
 
yall both mean as hell
but i like that

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The two biggest obstacles to positive Black men are the "Angry White Male" and his counterpart...in Black-face, the "Strong Black Woman". The former doesn't like the positive Black man for silly shit like, "That fucking ****** took my job," when in fact that fucking robot took your job. The latter has likely been raised by ANOTHER "Strong Black Woman", who realized after three kids by three different baby daddies...that she was just subconsciously following the precedent(s) set by her mother, who more than likely was single, and gave away more pussy than the ASPCA. Now she's bitter about having to work a job and fuck some lame-ass nigga who's in love with the stretched out pussy...in order to make ends meet.

I'm SOOOOOO glad that I distance myself from those type of Black women, and click up with a forward thinking type of Black woman. I've had my fill during my lifetime...and the females I've mentioned earlier deserve NOTHING but basic human respect.

No. The 2 biggest obstacles to black men are themselves and each other. They won't get out of their own way. And then they won't unify with 1 another. Look to self man. Look within your brethren.
 
I say enough of this talking. All we do is talk about the plight of the black woman, man, relationship, community etc............There needs to be some major figure and our community to become pro-active. There should be a major conference that involves leaders, entertainers, athletes etc.....Besides talking around the problem we need to get to the core of the issue. I mean hell we have all these events every year why the hell we cannot have a black conference to where the brightest minds in our community come together and start a contract that holds us responsible. We can do something like boycott our own entertainers by telling them we wont support your bullshit if your showing us in a negative light. Lets go after the rappers to. Now they have freedom of speech to say what they want but lets put pressure on the radio programmers and BET. Also we need to educate our youth during off hours by bringing in major figures (Like the president) to hold workshops. Also, lets support media's that are not biased or make money on cooning. Lastly, lets support our family members and friends that are doing positive things or who working hard and bringing good grades. Its time to stop admiring failure and bad behavior. The people who does not live up to positive expectation should not get any attention until they make the change. Its a damn shame majority of our community knows people like lil wayne, but do not know atleast 5 innovators that contributed to math, science, technology, etc.....(I'm also guilty of this). So if there is any child that makes good grades let us as a community celebrate with them, and the ones who dont support them but make them know more is expected and failure is not acceptable. Also lets get more involved in the political processs. Lets stop showing up in the General elections every 4 years. Its time to put people in local elections in the position that can identify the problems in our community and will have a backbone by not selling us out to keep their job.
 
Also black women needs to come together and teach each other to stop fucking the lowlife dudes. Fuckin them thugs or dudes you find cute aint gonna get you nowhere in this life. Thats how most end up with unwanted children, diseases, bitterness. Its time ya'll start demanding guy's have better morals, self respect, and goals in life besides being a rapper, hustler, b-baller, etc.......See pussy will always sale for the strippers and prostitutes, but if ya'll can affect your younger sisters,cousins, coworkers or anybody maybe dudes would change up their approach or bring more to the table. I means its fucking 2012 all that shit aint cute no more. Hell even back in the day the jumpoff or mistress got something out of the deal. Its like today you can barely tell the difference from the wifey and the jumpoff. Now alot of that has to do with the guy, but stop giving pussy away for free. Make us work for it because if he want's it that bad he'll do whatever it takes. And from talking to women some dudes will do suspect things to get pussy. (facepalm).
 
why do black dudes (not me) lust after those white women with those looks? why do black dudes, dress like european men? why do some black dudes feel the need to shave their facial hair to appear less threatening to white people? why do black men look down on black men with locks and other forms of hair and tell them to "grow up" and get a haircut...for who? why? who's standard of beauty and acceptance is that? why are we seen as self respecting when we aren't walking around bucking social acceptance by and large?







Its the man choice on whether or not even allow a woman to get his dick.. and even then its his final choice on whether or not to even share his seed... why share your seed with someone who ain't worthy of it who you see no future with? why be at the mercy of someone else? a chick can ask and even beg you to fuck raw and cum in her. as a man with self control, sense of responsibility, and character you for damn sure don't HAVE TO do it





there are just as many fat dudes as there are fat ass women. dudes just use money to hide their weight and woman because they're looked at as objects can't do that as well unless they're white.. then dudes will give any excuse to fuck with any low form of decrepit white chick or other chick "Cause she's paid" I am physically fit in good ass shape, and i demand someone who wears their weight well. but most of the dudes complaining about chicks being fat...are fat asses themselves.



don't say public image, say white perception and enforced by lost assimilated amulet black dudes who buy into that shit to become part of the "brotherhood" on some see, we can't stand that shit either white man! we're just the same! who's in charge of the media? not us black men or women so who's ultimately responsible for the stereotypes being thrown out there? you need to go into my yurugu thread, perfect week of discussion about this..


I'm going to have to call you on your bullshit FAM cause you conveniently left out the part in my post you dissected that I STATED CLEARLY THAT BLACK MEN HAVE FUCKED UP SHIT TOO SO SPARE ME THE "Y'ALL FUCKES UP TOO" SHIT.:hmm:

If this article was about black men asking for respect I would have started with we need to get are shit together first cause that shit starts from within and with ourselves... JUST LIKE FOR BLACK WOMEN.:hmm:

Now as far as how they- black women - are perceived by others including us is a trap statement: you can't claim not to give a fuck about how some one critiques you and then demand respect from them. THE BASIS OF RESPECT IS GIVING A FUCK; FIRST FROM YOURSELF AND SECOND FROM OTHERS - AS THE ARTICLE STATES- IS NEEDED BY BLACK WOMEN. They FEEL they deserve more respect, cats gives them a criticisms on why they don't get them and the response is....

"Fuck you nigga you don't get it and I don't give a fuck what you say/think, now respect me.":hmm:


So the next time you feel like sniffing your own farts playa remember to check your drawers to see if you didn't shit in them.:hmm:

BTW, EVERYTHING I SAID CAN AND SHOULD PERTAIN TO BLACK MEN AS WELL EVEN THOUGH THE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT BLACK WOMEN. In case anyone else leaves that out.:D


*two cents*
 
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I say enough of this talking. All we do is talk about the plight of the black woman, man, relationship, community etc............There needs to be some major figure and our community to become pro-active. There should be a major conference that involves leaders, entertainers, athletes etc.....Besides talking around the problem we need to get to the core of the issue. I mean hell we have all these events every year why the hell we cannot have a black conference to where the brightest minds in our community come together and start a contract that holds us responsible. We can do something like boycott our own entertainers by telling them we wont support your bullshit if your showing us in a negative light. Lets go after the rappers to. Now they have freedom of speech to say what they want but lets put pressure on the radio programmers and BET. Also we need to educate our youth during off hours by bringing in major figures (Like the president) to hold workshops. Also, lets support media's that are not biased or make money on cooning. Lastly, lets support our family members and friends that are doing positive things or who working hard and bringing good grades. Its time to stop admiring failure and bad behavior. The people who does not live up to positive expectation should not get any attention until they make the change. Its a damn shame majority of our community knows people like lil wayne, but do not know atleast 5 innovators that contributed to math, science, technology, etc.....(I'm also guilty of this). So if there is any child that makes good grades let us as a community celebrate with them, and the ones who dont support them but make them know more is expected and failure is not acceptable. Also lets get more involved in the political processs. Lets stop showing up in the General elections every 4 years. Its time to put people in local elections in the position that can identify the problems in our community and will have a backbone by not selling us out to keep their job.

You don't need any 1 person to stand up like this. You. You yourself can start it in your own neighborhood.
 
I'm going to have to call you on your bullshit FAM cause you conveniently left out the part in my post you dissected that I STATED CLEARLY THAT BLACK MEN HAVE FUCKED UP SHIT TOO SO SPARE ME THE "Y'ALL FUCKES UP TOO" SHIT.:hmm:

man please i am a black man i see we fuck up too, this blame game shit is tired and stupid. i didn't leave anything out. you didn't go in depth to talk about our shit as well. we all got problems topic of the article be damned.


If this article was about black men asking for respect I would have started with we need to get are shit together first cause that shit starts from within and with ourselves... JUST LIKE FOR BLACK WOMEN.:hmm:

you're missing the point. they deserve respect regardless
and they need to get their shit together too.
its shouldn't be conditional.


Now as far as how they- black women - are perceived by others including us is a trap statement: you can't claim not to give a fuck about how some one critiques you and then demand respect from them. THE BASIS OF RESPECT IS GIVING A FUCK; FIRST FROM YOURSELF AND SECOND FROM OTHERS - AS THE ARTICLE STATES- IS NEEDED BY BLACK WOMEN. They FEEL they deserve more respect, cats gives them a criticisms on why they don't get them and the response is....



"Fuck you nigga you don't get it and I don't give a fuck what you say/think, now respect me.":hmm:


they do deserve more....why not give them more? cause of a few who you don't like? or because of the stereotypes out there? :smh:
So the next time you feel like sniffing your own farts playa remember to check your drawers to see if you didn't shit in them.:hmm:

i didn't shit in them, nothing you said disputed anything i said
nothing you said invalidated anything i said
so save that line for another topic or post or when you actually invalidate what someone says... what did i say that stunk? what part of my post wasn't true?
im not smelling myself im speaking up and out and im tired of this blame game shit and well this is the reason why i don't give you the respect
how about instead of saying that say
well i respect you, and this is what i feel would bring us closer together
this is what i feel about command that respect from others as well. but regardless i respect you

nah too difficult for that
 
WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff said:
No. The 2 biggest obstacles to black men are themselves and each other. They won't get out of their own way. And then they won't unify with 1 another. Look to self man. Look within your brethren.

The adjective "positive" was added to separate the wheat from the chafe, so to speak. I still stand by my original premise that basically the Angry White Male is unwittingly in cahoots with the Strong Black Woman AGAINST the Positive Black Man.
 
Please keep this over here. No damn wonder. :smh:

Largebillsonly, are you enjoying your internet fame at "Sistas Online" Brother? I thought I saw your cameo in a Tampax commercial. :rolleyes: :roflmao2:

omg. :lol:
 
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