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S. Carolina Black Leaders Back Clinton

Feb 13 3:18 PM US/Eastern


By JIM DAVENPORT
Associated Press Writer


COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- Two key black political leaders in South Carolina who backed John Edwards in 2004 said Tuesday they are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's bid for the Democratic presidential nomination.
State Sens. Robert Ford and Darrell Jackson told The Associated Press they believe Clinton is the only Democrat who can win the presidency. Both said they had been courted by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama; Ford said Obama winning the primary would drag down the rest of the party.



"Then everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket _ we'd lose the House, the Senate and the governors and everything."

"I'm a gambling man. I love Obama," Ford said. "But I'm not going to kill myself."

Ford said he was swayed by calls from former President Clinton and Hillary Clinton. He said she has solid support in Charleston, one of the key regions in the state with a significant black Democratic voting population.

Jackson, who also is the minister of a large church in the state's capital city, said Edwards _ a South Carolina native who won the state's Democratic primary three years ago _ had his chance.

"I feel as if he's had his opportunity," Jackson said.

The endorsements come just days before Obama and Clinton campaign in the state for the first time as 2008 candidates.

Support from black voters is key in South Carolina, where 49 percent of the Democratic presidential primary vote came from blacks in 2004. The state will host the first Southern primaries for both the GOP and Democrats in 2008.

Clinton's campaign spokesman Mo Elleithee said they were happy to have Ford and Jackson's support.

"We're grateful we're starting to get the support of some key leaders," Elleithee said.

Associated Press Writer Scott Lindlaw in San Francisco contributed to this report.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/13/D8N91QGG6.html

-VG
 
black sc politicians are the most faggoty unheard unseen bitches in the politics game until now how fortunate for them to pop off and pop up when it doesnt have shit immediately or directly to do with SC Black people and their needs

what a load of shit from some scared uncle toms
 
<font size="5"><center>South Carolina Leader Apologizes</font size></center>

WSVJ Fox28
Southbend, Indiana
February 14, 2007

A key black political leader in South Carolina has offered an apology on top of an endorsement in the 2008 presidential race.

State Senator Robert Ford is backing Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination. He and another lawmaker, State Senator Darrell Jackson, tell The Associated Press they believe Clinton is the only Democrat who can win.

Both say they'd been courted by Illinois Senator Barack Obama. Ford said if Obama were to win the nomination, that would drag down the rest of the party because, quote, "he's black and he's the top of the ticket."

Later in the day, Ford said he had been besieged by criticism and apologized for his characterization of Obama's chances. Ford said if Clinton doesn't win the nomination, any of the other candidates are well suited to take the White House.


Updated: February 14, 2007, 10:17 am

http://www.fox28.com/News/index.php?ID=13560
 
<font size="5"><center>An Endorsement, And A Consulting Contract</font size></center>

The National Journal on Politics
February 14, 2007

State Sen. Darrell Jackson (D) is the pastor of the Bible Way Church in Columbia. which has one of the largest congregations in South Carolina. He was the youngest African American ever elected to the legislature. His endorsement is among the few in the state that can change minds and move votes.

Jackson is also a prized political consultant, and, during the past two South Carolina primary campaigns, has been the object of a bidding war between top-tier presidential candidates.

Yesterday, Jackson confirmed that he had decided to endorse Sen. Hillary Clinton, less than six days after his public relations firm, Sunrise Enterprises, agreed to a contract with Clinton's campaign worth at least $10,000 a month through the 2008 elections - a total of $210,000. (The contract has not been signed.)

A few days before that, Jackson was deep in negotiations with Steve Hildebrand, a senior strategist for Sen. Barack Obama's campaign. On the table was a contract worth in excess of $5K a month, beginning on 3/15/07. Separately, Obama was personally soliciitng Jackson's endorsement.

There's no question that the contract and the negotiations are legal. Sunrise is the oldest political consulting firm run by African Americans in the state and its services were in demand: at least five candidates, including Gov. Bill Richardson and Sen. Joe Biden, reached out to Jackson.

But in an interview, Jackson conceded that he should have acknowledged his firm's new business relationship with the Clinton campaign. "This Clinton campaign didn't put this on me, and neither did I. We didn't intend to announce this for a while," he said. "It wasn't me that called a press conference." Jackson's colleague, State Sen. Robert Ford, proudly told a reporter yesterday that he and Jackson had decided to endorse Clinton. Jackson, in subsequent interviews with reporters, confirmed his choice.

"It's Not About The Money"

"It's not about money," he said. "Quite honestly, I've turned done more money from some of the other candidates." Jackson said that when he told an official for another campaign about his Clinton endorsement, the official offered to "double" whatever Clinton offered him. Jackson told the official, whose name and campaign affiliation he declined to identify, that he was offended at the thought that his endorsement was bought. Jackson: "I don't even take a salary" (at Sunrise).

"Senator Jackson is one of the most respected leaders in South Carolina, and he runs one of the most successful media firms in the state," said Mo Elleithee, a Clinton spokesperson. "He and his firm were being aggressively courted by other campaigns - once we learned that he was supporting Senator Clinton, we jumped at the chance to have him be part of our South Carolina operation. We're proud to have him on our team."

Elleithee said the Clinton campaign never intended to compensate Jackson in exchange for an endorsement. Another Clinton adviser acknowledged that the optics of the endorsement were cloudy but said that the negotiations were above board.

As late as Feb. 7, Jackson had not decided which candidate to support. He was fielding formal offers from at least three other campaigns, including Obama's. In October of 2004, before Obama began to publicly consider a presidential race, the then Senate candidate spoke at Jackson's church and met privately with the minister.

On Feb. 6, according to copies of an e-mail provided to the Hotline, Obama called Jackson and again asked for his endorsement. The next day, one of Jackson's aides told Hildebrand, who oversees Obama's early primary state campaigns, that Jackson would decide whether to endorse Obama within two days. The aide wrote that Jackson had not decided about which contract offer to accept. And the aide hinted to Hildebrand that Sunrise had received another offer for a consulting contract.

In 2003, Sunrise was hired by Axelrod and Associates to advise on media buys and consult on strategy for Sen. John Edwards's campaign. David Axelrod, now an Obama adviser, was Edwards's media consultant in 2004. Sen. Jackson endorsed Edwards, who won the primary.

Jackson said his personal ties to the Clinton family go back to 1992, when his firm worked for Clinton's presidential campaign and his business partner, Heywood Bannister, served on Clinton's transition team. "Obama is a friend of mine," he conceded, but Clinton "would be the best president." [MARC AMBINDER]

Posted at 12:42 PM

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/02/an_endorsement.html
 
I'll be damn if I believe it wasn't anything more than a face saving apology. They both said what only what they could say with their collective heads that far up that womans ass. And now we know they endorsed bitch Clinton and sold us the fuck out for a fee.

With leaders like them, Black people will always be in the field whilst Ford and company watch the door in the big house.

-VG
 
Where did these guys learn to play the game of politics. Even if you felt that way, YOU DON'T PUBLICLY SAY IT!!!!!!! For all intensive purposes, Obama is considered one of the "shining Stars" in the political realm and if he simply makes a strong showing, His political capital nearly tripples. So now you have made an enemy of not only obama, but possibly the entire black national delegation and various powerful white democrats. Now add to this, you have to look your black constituents in teh face and explain this? DUMB
 
Obama is a new organism in the environment and he's creating chaos from which a new order could emerge, that's the last thing some old heads in black politics and the power brokers in the dem party want. So Mr Obama has some tough times ahead of him. He's shown himself to be a pretty good political tactician so I wouldn't worry about him too much. He'll be alright.
 
Great1 said:
Where did these guys learn to play the game of politics. Even if you felt that way, YOU DON'T PUBLICLY SAY IT!!!!!!! For all intensive purposes, Obama is considered one of the "shining Stars" in the political realm and if he simply makes a strong showing, His political capital nearly tripples. So now you have made an enemy of not only obama, but possibly the entire black national delegation and various powerful white democrats. Now add to this, you have to look your black constituents in teh face and explain this? DUMB
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Couldn't have asked better questions myself ...

QueEx
 
QueEx said:
Couldn't have asked better questions myself ...

QueEx
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What we have to recognize is the country club democrats don't think they are like us at all in any way, shape or form. Big white powerbrokers allowed them in and you best believe they are not discussing how to improve life for us. Only what words to use in delivering the next "promise" of a better life. And don't you know this war will be used as the principal reason why your life will not improve at the hands of the government for at least 8 years after Bush is gone.

They got us all bent over backward about 2 damn dollars over a 3 year period like that really means something. Tell those politicians we will give them 2 more dollars an hour over two years. You think they will be popping corks?

-VG
 
I'm from Charleston, SC and I know state senator Ford. He means well, but his thinking is so outdated. He is a loud mouth from Alabama. LOL He does have black people interest at heart but his vision is very narrow.

I'm shocked that Darrell Jackson said it also. I've been to Columbia and went to his church. I'm not a church goer or attend on a regular basis. When I went to his church I've never seen so many fine women in a church in my life. LOL Sistas galore!!! Now back to the subject. I am shocked by his comments because I see him as an intelligent man. He is not the Creflo or T.D. Jakes type. This dude is really trying to make a change in the community. I saw an old school next to his church and ask someone if he was trying to open a school. She told no, he is trying to open a hospital. I was like damn. I'm not a fan of organized religion, but if i had to go to a church and be a member, it would be his church. Expect to hear more about Darrell Jackson in years to come to make a run in congress. Dude is clean cut and I see him in the same lines of Jesse Ford Jr.
 
I sort of understand what you are saying, but there is a diffrence between being outdated and being stupid.

Like I said, even if you believe that deep in your heart, something within your polictical nature should tell you this is something I SHOULD NOT SAY OUT LOUD!!!!!! James Clyburn is an "old school" politician and I could NEVER see him saying something like that. Not because he is a genius, but he understands the black and general political landscape.

In terms of Darnell Jackson, if he was thinking of running for Congress, this really hurt his chances. If I were his opponent, I'd simply keep running his statements in teh black community and say how he doesn't believe that black people can succeed. He wants to play nice with "Miss Anne" Hillary Clinton. Vote for me. Darnell is just DUMB!!!!!!

Chase Bannon said:
I'm from Charleston, SC and I know state senator Ford. He means well, but his thinking is so outdated. He is a loud mouth from Alabama. LOL He does have black people interest at heart but his vision is very narrow.

I'm shocked that Darrell Jackson said it also. I've been to Columbia and went to his church. I'm not a church goer or attend on a regular basis. When I went to his church I've never seen so many fine women in a church in my life. LOL Sistas galore!!! Now back to the subject. I am shocked by his comments because I see him as an intelligent man. He is not the Creflo or T.D. Jakes type. This dude is really trying to make a change in the community. I saw an old school next to his church and ask someone if he was trying to open a school. She told no, he is trying to open a hospital. I was like damn. I'm not a fan of organized religion, but if i had to go to a church and be a member, it would be his church. Expect to hear more about Darrell Jackson in years to come to make a run in congress. Dude is clean cut and I see him in the same lines of Jesse Ford Jr.
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Jackson And Ford Should Be Tarred And Feathered Which Would Have Happened In Sc Years Ago.black People Can Always Be Bought. Church Folks Included
 
Those gents are worried about Obama messing up their money. The man hasn't proven he has their best interest at heart the only color they care about is green.
 
Not saying this is a right motivator, but even if that were true, saying something as stupid as this could cost you money. Its one thing not to endorse him, its another to say he is a sabotage of the party. For one reason or another, Obama is brining in money to the white establishment of the Democratic party. To say something as moronic as this, its going to hurt them financially as well.

nittie said:
Those gents are worried about Obama messing up their money. The man hasn't proven he has their best interest at heart the only color they care about is green.
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I don't have a problem with these guy not supporting Obama for political reasons or because their lips are tight against Clintons ass, but if you go this far as to say some personal shit like he would affect the entire democrat party, and you are not trying to kill yourself, you sound like you are damn near part of the klan. How do you then come back with I'm sorry, I didn't mean that.

You sure as hell meant it when you said it. Those were some deeply held feelings right there. Insulting, unexpected and it stings like hell to hear.

-VG
 
Great1 said:
Not saying this is a right motivator, but even if that were true, saying something as stupid as this could cost you money. Its one thing not to endorse him, its another to say he is a sabotage of the party. For one reason or another, Obama is brining in money to the white establishment of the Democratic party. To say something as moronic as this, its going to hurt them financially as well.
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You're right, it was short-sighted of them, but they know who pays the bills and until Obama proves he can do it we'll hear alot of things about him from Black politicians we don't agree with. Those guys are big business it's not about Black unity or helping anyone except themselves. To be honest I really can't blame them they know no one is gonna take care of them but them. Look at how the families of past Black leaders were treated after they died or got old. Malcom's family was destitute, so was Rosa Parks, Dr. King's family basically lived off his legacy or the kindness of strangers. Todays politicians are a different breed they don't want to go out like that.
 
Southern n*gg*s.

Aint nothing changed.

Cowardly chicken hearted negros.

Here's Ford the supposed up-and-coming negro in the deep South.

You'd think he'd use some of the equity he built up in the Corker campaign to stand behind a brother.

Isn't he from a powerful political family too?

Just goes to show..............

'You're a nigg* 'til you die
If you're a po' nigg*, you're a po' nigg*
If you're a rich nigg*, you're a rich nigg*
But you never stop bein a nigg*
And if you get to be educated you just an educated nigg*'
 
Obama is the sacrificial lamb while Clinton stays below the radar till close to election time when she is supposed to come out roaring with thunder and lightening.
 
<font size="5"><center>Obama elicits mixed reactions
in South Carolina</font size></center>


By Mike Dorning
Chicago Tribune
Posted on Sat, Feb. 17, 2007

COLUMBIA, S.C. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama roused a mixed crowd of black and white voters in South Carolina on Friday with a vision of breaking the race barrier to the White House.

The Illinois senator spoke at the Columbia Convention Center on his first visit to South Carolina as an announced presidential candidate. The state is expected to provide Obama with an important early test of his political strength with blacks.

He introduced himself to South Carolina - where African-Americans account for about half the electorate in the Democratic primary - by stressing the aspirational nature of his candidacy, punctuating his speech with the slogan he carried in his 2004 Illinois Senate campaign: "Yes, we can."

Though Obama, the son of an African father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas, identifies himself as black, many African-American political leaders have been hesitant to commit to backing his candidacy.

Rival Democrats Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards both have strong relationships with black political leaders and broad followings among African-Americans. Former President Bill Clinton is a beloved figure and Edwards, a native of South Carolina, won the 2004 Democratic primary here, garnering 37 percent of the African-American vote.

Early polls of South Carolina Democrats show Obama trailing both Edwards and Clinton, though public opinion surveys often reflect name recognition more than anything else at such an early stage of a campaign.

Obama drew shouts and cheers when he referred to comments by a prominent local black supporter of Clinton two days earlier suggesting that a black presidential candidate would be a political disaster for Democrats around the country.

FULL STORY:
 
I wouldn't mind Edwards, i definitely want Obama but if Clinton runs i aint voting for her - I can't stand that woman, she voted for the war in Iraq (at a time i've got to add when Obama was opposing it) she's pro war in Iraq, she supports the racist apartheid zionist regime in Palestine-Israel.

Hell we'd even be better off with a republican like Guilani (who like clinton is more towards the center than either one way or the other) than Clinton.
 
Lurkch said:
I wouldn't mind Edwards, i definitely want Obama but if Clinton runs i aint voting for her - I can't stand that woman, she voted for the war in Iraq (at a time i've got to add when Obama was opposing it) she's pro war in Iraq, she supports the racist apartheid zionist regime in Palestine-Israel.

Hell we'd even be better off with a republican like Guilani (who like clinton is more towards the center than either one way or the other) than Clinton.
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I agree with you. The United States does not need another Clinton in office.
 
LOL^^

This says it all...

State Sen. Darrell Jackson (D) is the pastor of the Bible Way Church in Columbia. which has one of the largest congregations in South Carolina. He was the youngest African American ever elected to the legislature. His endorsement is among the few in the state that can change minds and move votes.

Jackson is also a prized political consultant, and, during the past two South Carolina primary campaigns, has been the object of a bidding war between top-tier presidential candidates.

Yesterday, Jackson confirmed that he had decided to endorse Sen. Hillary Clinton, less than six days after his public relations firm, Sunrise Enterprises, agreed to a contract with Clinton's campaign worth at least $10,000 a month through the 2008 elections - a total of $210,000. (The contract has not been signed.)

A few days before that, Jackson was deep in negotiations with Steve Hildebrand, a senior strategist for Sen. Barack Obama's campaign. On the table was a contract worth in excess of $5K a month, beginning on 3/15/07. Separately, Obama was personally soliciitng Jackson's endorsement.
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Great1 said:
I sort of understand what you are saying, but there is a diffrence between being outdated and being stupid.

Like I said, even if you believe that deep in your heart, something within your polictical nature should tell you this is something I SHOULD NOT SAY OUT LOUD!!!!!! James Clyburn is an "old school" politician and I could NEVER see him saying something like that. Not because he is a genius, but he understands the black and general political landscape.

In terms of Darnell Jackson, if he was thinking of running for Congress, this really hurt his chances. If I were his opponent, I'd simply keep running his statements in teh black community and say how he doesn't believe that black people can succeed. He wants to play nice with "Miss Anne" Hillary Clinton. Vote for me. Darnell is just DUMB!!!!!!
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Point well taken.
 
kjxxxx said:
Obama is the sacrificial lamb while Clinton stays below the radar till close to election time when she is supposed to come out roaring with thunder and lightening.
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Both might be making way for John Edwards.
 
Chase Bannon said:
Both might be making way for John Edwards.
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Don't believe the talking-heads-anchor-analysis hype. Edwards and the rest of the democratic pack didn't gain a nat's ass from the recent Obama-Hillary-Geffen flack.

Locked and Loaded Hillary made a gaff no one is talking about but I'll bet anything her camp has taken note of: her attack-and-take-no-prisoners mode planned against both her democratic challengers and the would-be republican in the general election ran into trouble against her Black opponent. <u>No one has had to seek Black votes and run against a Black opponent in a presidential primary before</u>. When Obama bit sharply back - the Hillary camp went conspicously silent .... realizing that it can be a double-edged sword attacking what may be the favorite son of the same people you're courting.

In the meantime, Edwards, et al., were just left watching the show that everybody else (ppotential voters) were watching.

I'm going to go so far as to make a prediction here: Hillary's comments to the Obama Camp will be much more reserved and about issues, from here out. Unless, however, Obama falters.

QueEx
 
------ get me sick, hes not gonna vote for Obama cause he wants to be on "the winning ticket"
fucking ------ man
 
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Playa,

Your comments are definitely appreciated, however, please don't use that word on THIS board.

Peace and thanking you in advance,

QueEx
 
Too many people on this board have lost sight of or don't really understand what this is about. The measure of any politician is whether or not s/he can deliver political goods. Obama has yet to prove he can or even knows how to.


While y'all are stomping your feet, whining about what Bill is saying, trying to beat up any and every black person who hasn't drank the Obama flavored kool-aid. Hillary is out and about tossing 70 billion dollars in peoples faces saying this is what I'm gonna do right now for you with the implication that there's more to come if you put me in the White House.

But go ahead and do whatever it is y'all are doing. I don't get it.
 
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