Black homeowners in the ATL learn about racism the hard way

[Mr. Met]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/wonk/housing/atlanta/

“It just does not make sense,” says Sands, a retired Air Force information manager with two grown children, sitting in his living room with Early. The two men co-chair a housing committee for the local community improvement association that is researching what’s wrong with housing values. “You’ve got doctors, lawyers, teachers, all kinds of professional people, retired military like myself, who’ve done everything right — everything right — and it never seems to work out in our favor,” Sands says. “We’re not talking about people who got fraudulent loans, who didn’t have jobs to pay for them.”

 

[exiledking]

what makes you think they're JUST LEARNING about racism?

 

[Mr. Met]

what makes you think they're JUST LEARNING about racism?

Their comments. It's like they're expressing shock.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Those banks were very in line with white supremacy to fail.
That's what Obama and Holder should have said.

 

[exiledking]

Their comments. It's like they're expressing shock.

Why do you think they live in Black neighborhoods?

 

[Mr. Met]

Why do you think they live in Black neighborhoods?

They do. But being a professional and having PhDs don't exclude you from white suprremacy.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

That really is a shame. Like the brother said, they did everything they were supposed to do, and have been since they were what??? Realistically 15-16 trying to set up where they were going to school, what they were going to major in, what frat/sorority they were going to pledge in hopes the networking opportunities would set them up after school, got the career, saved the bread, got the home loan without cutting corners, and the plan still didn't work out. Why??? Because we blackfolks... Yet you have whitefolks read this and they'll come up with every reason but the real one why this happened there, and practicality everygoddamnwhere else in the country.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Niggas think because they got money they exempt. Naw. Ex SF mayor Willie Brown was pulled over while still mayor and harassed. Crackas are even more angry when we smarter and richer than them. They blame our success on affirmative action pretending we got where we at because a more qualified cracka got over looked. Whites are a sick species.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Why do you think they live in Black neighborhoods?

Because Realtors either steer white clients away(which is illegal but if the Realtor is fluent in white supremacy hey) or they bring them there and they see more than 3 Black families and they never return.

 

[exiledking]

They do. But being a professional and having PhDs don't exclude you from white suprremacy.

duh.. but they're not "surprised". They're pointing it out. With facts to back it up. Thats one way you go about handling shit. I wouldn't go around assuming people are ignorant to things just because they expect to be treated with respect, especially when they handle their affairs well.

 

[exiledking]

Because Realtors either steer white clients away(which is illegal but if the Realtor is fluent in white supremacy hey) or they bring them there and they see more than 3 Black families and they never return.

OR maybe they wanted to live among their own race and appreciate property together, never expecting White people to live next to them. We do that a lot in Atlanta.

I don't know how you assume actual home owners don't know what you seem to know.

 

[exiledking]

IT would seem some of you would be sympathetic to what these people are pointing out, fighting against, empathize and want to band with them. But the overwhelming sentiment from the first post is "them niggas thought they was somebody, not they just like us" -- as if they aren't right here amongst us. strange...

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Because Realtors either steer white clients away(which is illegal but if the Realtor is fluent in white supremacy hey) or they bring them there and they see more than 3 Black families and they never return.

White people dont want to live around us. As for property value wealth game, they should have known better.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

IT would seem some of you would be sympathetic to what these people are pointing out, fighting against, empathize and want to band with them. But the overwhelming sentiment from the first post is "them niggas thought they was somebody, not they just like us" -- as if they aren't right here amongst us. strange...

This... Shut happens everywhere and why??? Not all black neighborhoods are crime ridden, have foreclosures, irresponsible owners, corrupt HOAs, or are in parts of the city where the location isn't favorable. It's just cause it's a black neighborhood and nothing else. It's frustrating. Because tax values factor into so much more man. The schools, the parks and facilities, the infrastructure. All that shut ties into tax values/revenue. This is next level systematic racism.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

This... Shut happens everywhere and why??? Not all black neighborhoods are crime ridden, have foreclosures, irresponsible owners, corrupt HOAs, or are in parts of the city where the location isn't favorable. It's just cause it's a black neighborhood and nothing else. It's frustrating. Because tax values factor into so much more man. The schools, the parks and facilities, the infrastructure. All that shut ties into tax values/revenue. This is next level systematic racism.

But did you really think white people were going to let you build wealth? The entire point of investing is to buy low and sell high? Did those guys really believe their neighborhood was going to appreciate?

Middle class blacks are the easiest dupes in the game.

 

[exiledking]

But did you really think white people were going to let you build wealth? The entire point of investing is to buy low and sell high? Did those guys really believe their neighborhood was going to appreciate?

Middle class blacks are the easiest dupes in the game.

you really think everything that happens for you is because someone LETS you, huh?



BTW What class do you consider yourself to be in? And are people in the lower class wiser than people in the middle class?

 

[DaAssWatcher]

OR maybe they wanted to live among their own race and appreciate property together, never expecting White people to live next to them. We do that a lot in Atlanta.

I don't know how you assume actual home owners don't know what you seem to know.

These neighborhoods end up attracting well to do Black folks but whites avoid it like the plague.It could have started off
as Black folks just moving into a nice neighborhood but ends up being a Black neighborhood because whites racist fears pop up and they stay away.

If you look at a lot of well to do Black communities or towns you'll notice a lot of them were barley Black 16 years ago but by the 2010 census they became majority Black or close to it.

I am not discounting Blacks wanting to live near each other I'm just saying in a lot of places those neighborhoods started out mixed but ended up Black because of white flight.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

you really think everything that happens for you is because someone LETS you, huh?



BTW What class do you consider yourself to be in? And are people in the lower class wiser than people in the middle class?

I'm poor. I was born poor, and I'm going to die poor.

 

[Dr. Truth]

I'm poor. I was born poor, and I'm going to die poor.

No wonder you're such a miserable piece of shit. Fucking idiot troll.

 

[exiledking]

These neighborhoods end up attracting well to do Black folks but whites avoid it like the plague.It could have started off
as Black folks just moving into a nice neighborhood but ends up being a Black neighborhood because whites racist fears pop up and they stay away.

If you look at a lot of well to do Black communities or towns you'll notice a lot of them were barley Black 16 years ago but by the 2000 census they became majority Black or close to it.

I am not discounting Blacks wanting to live near each other I'm just saying in a lot of places those neighborhoods started out mixed but ended up Black because of white flight.

I grew up in predominately Black cities. There are people like you're talking about. Most of that is in the city.

I even grew up with parents who moved to a suburb that was mixed- and is still mixed, trying to get us to "better schools" or whatever.

But there are a TON of Black neighborhoods in Atlanta, particularly the area you're talking about that started out Black, or evn if it's the situation you speak of, that was a whole generation ago, and those people couldv'e left way back if it was just about living near white folks.

Bottom line, these people are PLANNERS. If they're experiencing setbacks due to the larger picture, they are US, dude. And they are identifying the problems, pointing it out, and they will do what they need to do to handle that- I empathize with planners who will do what needs to be done, because ultimately , thats who it's gonna get done by.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

But did you really think white people were going to let you build wealth? The entire point of investing is to buy low and sell high? Did those guys really believe their neighborhood was going to appreciate?

Middle class blacks are the easiest dupes in the game.

You don't buy a home with the expectation it's going to appreciate in this day in age. But you do not expect the shit to bottom out for the singular reason of its a black neighborhood. Shit you can't help. Even though it's somewhat affluent now, the seeds are planted for for that area to go to shit. Which is why generation after generation we can't get ahead. What we thought would give our children a spring board in life, doesn't do shit really. I gives a fuck about my actual value. It's gone up slightly.(Charlotte) But only because more and more out of towners are coming in looking for reasonable homes and different color faces are now moving in. Nothing we did. And in 5-10 years the cycle of gentrification will happen again and force out the black folks who started this hood because the tax values have skyrocketed. Leaving the shit to CACs to claim all the benefits we should've. Shits wrong man.

 

[exiledking]

I'm poor. I was born poor, and I'm going to die poor.

oh. And they're the duped ones lol

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

oh. And they're the duped ones lol

Americans are the best. We all aspire to be delusional. That's what we want for our children.

 

[BDR]

That's why I refuse to leave NYC.. My home is my leverage in this gentrification filled place.. I'm gentrified proof..

You filthy Jews want to buy my house sure give me 1 million and it's yours or else gtfoh

 

[Dr. Truth]

That's why I refuse to leave NYC.. My home is my leverage in this gentrification filled place.. I'm gentrified proof..

You filthy Jews want to buy my house sure give me 1 million and it's yours or else gtfoh

How's Jackson Heights these days ? I hear Lucy Lu been living there for a while. I remember when you could get your wig split off Roosevelt.

 

[exiledking]

That's why I refuse to leave NYC.. My home is my leverage in this gentrification filled place.. I'm gentrified proof..

You filthy Jews want to buy my house sure give me 1 million and it's yours or else gtfoh

aaaaah someone in this thread has defeated white supremacy

 

[Day_Carver]

Property values, just like anything else in america, are tied to white folks; lets just be honest with ourselves for a minute; for me, I would never buy a "home" were only black people lived; Unless I knew they were changing the demographics; because you can only sell to blacks; whites dont want to live in all black neighborhoods; never have and probably never will; unless it benefits them...

 

[BDR]

aaaaah someone in this thread has defeated white supremacy

I'm making money off white supremacist.. It's my defacto reparations payment..

Foh chump

 

[Day_Carver]

I'm making money off white supremacist.. It's my defacto reparations payment..

Foh chump

Until the system changes, thats what you suppose to do...

 

[exiledking]

I just noticed the focus of this article is SOuth Dekalb/... no fucking wonder

 

[exiledking]

I'm making money off white supremacist.. It's my defacto reparations payment..

Foh chump

THEY will never LET you do that.

 

[BDR]

THEY will never LET you do that.

I am doing it

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

They better not go for that bullshit and sell their homes....they better hold

on to them and wait the bullshit out...


its all mind fuckery... and developers many times create the crime

to bring the property down even more, then when they scare most of the population

away they clean up and move white folks in......

its tired but yet still effective game they are running.......

 

[exiledking]

They better not go for that bullshit and sell their homes....they better hold

on to them and wait the bullshit out...


its all mind fuckery... and developers many times create the crime

to bring the property down even more, then when they scare most of the population

away they clean up and move white folks in......

its tired but yet still effective game they are running.......

NO ONE is ever moving to south dekalb en masse. Theres no financial center anywhere near it, tons of industrial zoning, schools suck, no jobs.


And of course it has a high crime rate.

 

[lazarus]

very interesting article. In Cali, black neighborhoods that could be gentrified actually go higher in price. Hipsters crave to have a 90% white neighborhood with sprinkled ethnics.