thats mostly out of fear.
shit even when u snitched on ur neighbors, u made an anonymous call then u hid in the house peeking thru the blinds to watch the arrest so u must be able to relate.
Black folks are hypocritical with all of this outrage
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thats mostly out of fear.
shit even when u snitched on ur neighbors, u made an anonymous call then u hid in the house peeking thru the blinds to watch the arrest so u must be able to relate.
my outrage is wit the police department, atleast in most of the blk on blk crime they're lookin for a suspect, these cops had the suspect and a dead kid on the ground and jus let the dude go, its ironic cause if they wanted to cover it up they could have arrested him and months later jus dimiss the case and gotten away wit it, the fact they let him go wit a dead kid layign on the floor is what sparked all this outrage
Another one who doesn't understand.
If you have even rudimentary involvement in certain communities, you know that there are people working every day at the local level to address our everyday issues.
The attention, hopefully, will shine a light on Fla.'s "Stand Your Ground" law but more directly, the negative press received by the Sanford Police Dept will make other depts behave in more appropriate manner. Nothing will stop the next Zimmerman, a fool is going to be a fool, but other police depts will better know how to handle it when it happens.
To me they do! If they would make as much noise as they making in this case, then and only then in our community would some of the killing that go on, stop!! Just my thoughts! Not all killings will, but i would think a very large amount would!
Why does the OP limit it to just black folks? There are many white folks involved and who care about this situation. They too get molested, robbed, raped, and killed by their own. I tell ya self hate is a mudder fucker. 
The murder of Martin isn't what got the widescale response, I don't see how this keeps getting overlooked or misunderstood, it was the police response that got the attention. Otherwise, this is just another tragic local news story, like every other murder.
Sorry if you are offended but this needs to be said...
Its amazed me how hypocritical black people are with all of this action and outrage regarding the Trayvon Martin situation. I am also not downplaying the actions of Zimmerman.. He was actions were completely unacceptable and he should be arrested and charged with murder, and condemned to a death sentence.
My gripe is that unarmed young black men get killed every day at the hands other young black men. In fact my 22 year old cousin is being buried today.... He was unarmed and shot in the head and killed one week ago by other black males who are still free at this time.
Young black males have been killing other young black males for years but it has not caused the same amount of outrage as this situation. I mean you have marches all over the country, folks protesting in-front of government buildings, police stations, sporting events, church gatherings, etc... You look a the news and they are constantly showing videos of young black kids talking about how they are now afraid for their lives to walk down the street and scared to wear hoodiesThe "New Blank Panthers" are trying to raise $1,000,000 for the capture of Zimmerman....
The reality is that young black men are more likely to be killed by other young black males than a rouge white neighborhood watch captain. Black on black murders have been happening everyday for years and it hasn’t provoked this type of outrage... Just look at the news paper this morning and there will probably be articles of the young blacks that were killed over the weekend due to senseless violence.. Will there be protests for these killings??? I literally cannot count how many family members I've lost to black on black violence and I'm sure many of you can say the same thing.
agree with this real shit right here and needed to be said and sorry for your loss
this line right here is so chock full of bullshit i don't even know where to start. you REALLY can't count how many people in your family have been murdered, WORD?. secondly the bullshyt buzzword "black on black crime" when an eskimo is the victim of a crime, who most likely is the culprit? another eskimo. when crime statistics are broken down people are MOST likely to be harmed by the group that they identify with because that is who is in close proximity to them. the idea that "black on black" crime is special or different than any other ethnic group is bullshyt.
i'm not offended by WHAT you said, i'm offended that you actually think what you're saying is insightful or deep
I feel ya, but still, if our people came together just as in this case, it proly wouldnt b so much of it going on in our hoods, thats all!
Dave u are wasting brain power on people who dont want to know anything...
this line right here is so chock full of bullshit i don't even know where to start. You really can't count how many people in your family have been murdered, word?
I'm not offended by what you said, i'm offended that you actually think what you're saying is insightful or deep
this
Only in the black community will other black folks become irritated about this issue..It makes no sense and i'm amazed at the lengths some of you "blk" folks will go to align yourself/thoughts with the mainstream(ie Cac's)
apparently
Mc2 you are correct. But what these people did for Martin was correct. More should have been done. And the panthers were right.
I myself was robbed by 3 blacks and I did not know if I was going to survive. I had to have my head clamped up. And the only reason why they did not shoot me was because they got what they thought was enough money. When I talked to the detectives they act like they were disappointed that they did not kill me.
What you have in Martin case is nothing more than a hunt and he was a trophy. Nobody said anything when they tore up that country looking for that white girl and forced another country to arrest people.
We watched the press and our government lie and set up the blacks in Libya to be hunted down like animals. Right now some of Obama friends have blacks in cages outside and are beating and killing them publicly.
They say this case has been shown worldwide. And I know other countries are laughing at us. We side with the white man on robbing and tearing up other countries.
What is so sad about the case is that some still have not woke up yet. Still paying white people to poison us. Make money to bring it right back to them. And support all their institutions, their way of life, their ideas, their values. We are still giving them the power to superior over us and our true identity.
This case is supposedly not over with yet and the same thing just happened in Chicago. This time an off duty officer shot a black man and a black lady in the head.
The Detroit 300 is good. But soon as they catch a brother and turn him over to the police their is another brother to take his place. And you can do nothing about the system that created him.
If we were real men we would be holding that police chief until they bought Zimmerman to us. Now all of sudden people act like they did not see a cover up in this whole thing. And the ground plan for more hunting with a new breed of 007's, license to kill and the police clean up for them. What did we think Jed Bush was planning with some of this shit. Who ever hear of being prosecuted for having a list of who all got a gun legally and who all got gun permits, weather you are a officer or part of the media.
We are no different than the people in the government experiment in Jonestown and followed that man 300 miles in a jungle where escape was impossible.
And the way they are breezing thru this, the rest of us brothers are on deck. So when this type of white power happens to one of us. Do not cry. Because you saw me do it to your brother and laugh in your face about it.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/
I myself was robbed by 3 blacks and I did not know if I was going to survive. I had to have my head clamped up. And the only reason why they did not shoot me was because they got what they thought was enough money. When I talked to the detectives they act like they were disappointed that they did not kill me.
What you have in Martin case is nothing more than a hunt and he was a trophy. Nobody said anything when they tore up that country looking for that white girl and forced another country to arrest people.
We watched the press and our government lie and set up the blacks in Libya to be hunted down like animals. Right now some of Obama friends have blacks in cages outside and are beating and killing them publicly.
They say this case has been shown worldwide. And I know other countries are laughing at us. We side with the white man on robbing and tearing up other countries.
What is so sad about the case is that some still have not woke up yet. Still paying white people to poison us. Make money to bring it right back to them. And support all their institutions, their way of life, their ideas, their values. We are still giving them the power to superior over us and our true identity.
This case is supposedly not over with yet and the same thing just happened in Chicago. This time an off duty officer shot a black man and a black lady in the head.
The Detroit 300 is good. But soon as they catch a brother and turn him over to the police their is another brother to take his place. And you can do nothing about the system that created him.
If we were real men we would be holding that police chief until they bought Zimmerman to us. Now all of sudden people act like they did not see a cover up in this whole thing. And the ground plan for more hunting with a new breed of 007's, license to kill and the police clean up for them. What did we think Jed Bush was planning with some of this shit. Who ever hear of being prosecuted for having a list of who all got a gun legally and who all got gun permits, weather you are a officer or part of the media.
We are no different than the people in the government experiment in Jonestown and followed that man 300 miles in a jungle where escape was impossible.
And the way they are breezing thru this, the rest of us brothers are on deck. So when this type of white power happens to one of us. Do not cry. Because you saw me do it to your brother and laugh in your face about it.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/
100% co-sign
What's stopping you and a couple likeminded individuals from going to get the chief right now? Or a week ago?
like calling each other N!@@3& in music/on video/on the streets 'cuz it's the thing to do.
saggin' (laugh when others are seen doing it but fail to realize how stupid it is to still be stuck doing it themselves)
Black on Black crime (verbal - when you consider the origins of the word relative to what was meant when a person said it) (physical - accidently stepping on someones new sneakers meant a fight is gonna break out - OR WORSE!) stems from the lack of self respect and is rooted in low expectations placed on individuals that they in turn wear as a uniform.
Black on Black crime ain't no made up shit dirty hubs - it wasn't always like this. In a true shared struggle, the ones who made it up and out aren't seen as the next victims to take down. Likewise, the ones who made it up and out reached back to help others.
Black on Black crime is about us being our own worst enemy.
c/s It's not just the killing, it's the cover-up. If Zimmerman had been arrested, charged, tried, etc., then most of us would have never heard of this case. Instead it would be chalked up to Florida's dumbass Stand Your Ground law.
Of course we should be outraged when any young brother is killed, but in all cases, black on black, white on black, latino on black, asian on black, we should expect their killers to be punished.
Yes it is and yes it was. The difference is the media spotlight but Black criminals have always preyed overwhelmingly on Black victims. As Dick Gregory said, "The only difference is that now police will actually lock somebody up when before you were just another dead nigga."
The Martin case is def supposed to get the publicity it is getting and more because that's the way the world works.....American history is what it is folks. We black people are a minority and white people have always had the advantage. So if a white man commits a crime and a black person is the victim due to racial profiling, hell yes that white man should be punished to the fullest extent of the law because black people have suffered decades upon decades of unfair treatment and it's been 40 plus years of Americans trying their best to change those ways that were accepted in America since the 1700's.
Look, everyone knows that things are the way they are and that is the way the world works. So many murders happen everyday in the United States because of money, drugs, and all the extra curricular activities that come with that lifestyle.
And I hate to say it but drugs are a big part of our culture. From the biggest cities to the most rural/country one horse towns, people are in the drug game trying to come up and that is all apart of the job description.
Humans are conditioned to adapt and survive that is why people are numb to the fact that some young black man has been killed by another black man. That doesn't mean it's right but it's so rampant that it doesn't have the same shock value anymore.
OP I'm sorry for your loss bro. When any person looks at it they always know they would rather a person have their life than to lose it esp to violence.
This is a cold cruel world and men especially minority men have to work so hard to take care of themselves.
Look, everyone knows that things are the way they are and that is the way the world works. So many murders happen everyday in the United States because of money, drugs, and all the extra curricular activities that come with that lifestyle.
And I hate to say it but drugs are a big part of our culture. From the biggest cities to the most rural/country one horse towns, people are in the drug game trying to come up and that is all apart of the job description.
Humans are conditioned to adapt and survive that is why people are numb to the fact that some young black man has been killed by another black man. That doesn't mean it's right but it's so rampant that it doesn't have the same shock value anymore.
OP I'm sorry for your loss bro. When any person looks at it they always know they would rather a person have their life than to lose it esp to violence.
This is a cold cruel world and men especially minority men have to work so hard to take care of themselves.
First off sorry for the lost of your loved one.
If the black guys who shot your loved one had witness and the 911 recordings and all the evedence they have on zimmerman those guys would be under the jail.
If your loveone attacked those guys for no reason and they shot him in self defence they would be under the jail
If those black guys shot your loved one by accident they would be under the jail.
If someone they where with shot him they would be under the jail.
Thats what the outrage is about.
If the black guys who shot your loved one had witness and the 911 recordings and all the evedence they have on zimmerman those guys would be under the jail.
If your loveone attacked those guys for no reason and they shot him in self defence they would be under the jail
If those black guys shot your loved one by accident they would be under the jail.
If someone they where with shot him they would be under the jail.
Thats what the outrage is about.
Ignorant assholes like the op and those who agree with op still believe the LA RIOTS were because Rodney King got his ass beat by some white cops, and ignore the reality that the riots happened after the cops were set free. no one gives a damn that Rodney king got his ass beat, during that time police was whooping our ass on a regular. The problem was we had proof and they still got off. No different than what's going on with Trayvon, this is not about him getting killed per se but all that followed after he was killed.
I talked to a (white) sheriff over the weekend and EVEN he said the department down there is full of shit. I live in Texas and even they agree the guy should have been arrested and then let a grand Jury sort out the mess.
The fact that NO arrest was made is the reason for the outrage. Some of these coons on here can't understand that. What about black killing other blacks? Are those blacks (who've killed other blacks) interviewed by police and allowed to go home? <-----THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE OUTRAGE!!!
Travon was shot, and they took the shooter's complete and utter word of proclaimed innocence without looking at the evidence. In fact they never even cuffed the guy, they just said, "Okay, he looks like he's telling the truth, meh, the dead guy's black therefore WE KNOW he was wrong"....
The fact that NO arrest was made is the reason for the outrage. Some of these coons on here can't understand that. What about black killing other blacks? Are those blacks (who've killed other blacks) interviewed by police and allowed to go home? <-----THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE OUTRAGE!!!
Travon was shot, and they took the shooter's complete and utter word of proclaimed innocence without looking at the evidence. In fact they never even cuffed the guy, they just said, "Okay, he looks like he's telling the truth, meh, the dead guy's black therefore WE KNOW he was wrong"....
weak ass niggas...
co/sign!
Well you have the apologists. Cat gets blasted for no reason, the first thing you have is SOME black people saying how the shooter was a "good boy" and was "trying to turn his life around!" If you say the shooter is a disgrace to our community, someone will tell you not to judge him. Shit. Cats get shot up here and people will say
"everyone makes mistakes!"
Fuck kind of response is that?So in a way, SOME of us are always making fucking excuses and enabling this pathetic mindset.
A black man was chased out of his neighborhood after shooting a cat that was trying to rob him. People would not stand up to the family and friends of the robber. They were on the news ranting and raving about how he didn't have to shoot the robber.
It's that kind of mindset that needs to go. These is no excuse for the disproportionate amount of violence anymore. None. Cats are tearing up the suburbs. How in the blue fuck do you do that?
Poverty? Not in the burbs. Education? Dumb shit hillbilies ain't doing it. It's just low fucking standards and excuses.
dog u must live round some terrible black folk cuz ur opinion of them seems to be really, really low.
Well you have the apologists. Cat gets blasted for no reason, the first thing you have is SOME black people saying how the shooter was a "good boy" and was "trying to turn his life around!" If you say the shooter is a disgrace to our community, someone will tell you not to judge him. Shit. Cats get shot up here and people will say
So in a way, SOME of us are always making fucking excuses and enabling this pathetic mindset.
A black man was chased out of his neighborhood after shooting a cat that was trying to rob him. People would not stand up to the family and friends of the robber. They were on the news ranting and raving about how he didn't have to shoot the robber.
These is no excuse for the disproportionate amount of violence anymore. None. Cats are tearing up the suburbs. How in the blue fuck do you do that?
UPGRADE DAVE. I can understand you asking me that. And I had told a friend that if I had maybe a thousand dollars to spear I might would have taken a chance of getting that 10 thousand dollars the panthers had to offer. I do not have the resources. But I will never give up on what I am doing now.
85 percent of the world is blind,deaf, and dumb. These are the poisonous flesh eaters. Their are 10 percent of the world that know the truth but are sworn to secrecy. And they are the blood suckers of the poor. Then there are 5% of the population that know the truth and are bold enough to live it and to preach it and teach it. We are the poor righteous teachers.
At one time here in Alabama I had started a paper called the soul paper. A base to unite blacks, money, and jobs. I gave it up because it was a lot of work for me to do by myself. And then the printing press would make all the easy money. Lately I got burned on some business deals. And now I am starting over again. I have even tried to turn my apartment into a casino as a way of generating seed money.
When I had my paper going I took a copy to a black millionaire and he refused to even get a subscription. But when I went to black churches and talked to the pastors they was will to get subscriptions and talk to their congregations about getting one. So things like this will work. But the blacks with the money will not do anything. The nation of islam is the only group that was manufacturing their own products, clean n fresh. I had bought the products. They were great. But lack of participation cause that to fail. They had products in warehouses they rented that were not moving. And they lost money from that.
When I had my paper I sent a copy to Farrakhan's house. He wrote and said that I should ask family and friends to help me with my mission of good. And stated that the nation of islam at that time did not have their own printing press. But they probably got their own by now. But I did not get any help from him.
What I am doing is what I consider the only way out of what we are in. We as black men got to get control of ourselves and then win our women and children back. We are all born and shaped into being a part of this white man's world. We think our women and children belong to us. At an early age they begin to mold their minds, and by the time they are 6 years old they are conformed to this world and grow up to be successful devils.
I do not eat the poisons I use to eat. I look forward to eating only raw organic fruits,vegetables, and bee pollen. Breaking my addition to processed food. I try to create jobs, and I am aware of the world's best kept secret and that is that our health is our only real wealth. Anything else is borrowed including our lives. Every man controls his surroundings. Once he loses control of this he ceases to be a man. This world works on you losing your inner strength to be controlled by the world.
But I will work with anybody, we all need to become friends of each other and work together on separating and building our own reality. The garden of eden is one way and we are following the devils the other way.
I hope to see my goals and visions materialize. I do not want to do something to kill in it before it is born. Because if that was my son I might have fucked up and did things the wrong way. And right now you cannot get ignorant with the devil and win. We will never be bigger devils than white people. And if that was my son I might would have forgot that and I would have came at that police chief and made him produce the shooter.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/
85 percent of the world is blind,deaf, and dumb. These are the poisonous flesh eaters. Their are 10 percent of the world that know the truth but are sworn to secrecy. And they are the blood suckers of the poor. Then there are 5% of the population that know the truth and are bold enough to live it and to preach it and teach it. We are the poor righteous teachers.
At one time here in Alabama I had started a paper called the soul paper. A base to unite blacks, money, and jobs. I gave it up because it was a lot of work for me to do by myself. And then the printing press would make all the easy money. Lately I got burned on some business deals. And now I am starting over again. I have even tried to turn my apartment into a casino as a way of generating seed money.
When I had my paper going I took a copy to a black millionaire and he refused to even get a subscription. But when I went to black churches and talked to the pastors they was will to get subscriptions and talk to their congregations about getting one. So things like this will work. But the blacks with the money will not do anything. The nation of islam is the only group that was manufacturing their own products, clean n fresh. I had bought the products. They were great. But lack of participation cause that to fail. They had products in warehouses they rented that were not moving. And they lost money from that.
When I had my paper I sent a copy to Farrakhan's house. He wrote and said that I should ask family and friends to help me with my mission of good. And stated that the nation of islam at that time did not have their own printing press. But they probably got their own by now. But I did not get any help from him.
What I am doing is what I consider the only way out of what we are in. We as black men got to get control of ourselves and then win our women and children back. We are all born and shaped into being a part of this white man's world. We think our women and children belong to us. At an early age they begin to mold their minds, and by the time they are 6 years old they are conformed to this world and grow up to be successful devils.
I do not eat the poisons I use to eat. I look forward to eating only raw organic fruits,vegetables, and bee pollen. Breaking my addition to processed food. I try to create jobs, and I am aware of the world's best kept secret and that is that our health is our only real wealth. Anything else is borrowed including our lives. Every man controls his surroundings. Once he loses control of this he ceases to be a man. This world works on you losing your inner strength to be controlled by the world.
But I will work with anybody, we all need to become friends of each other and work together on separating and building our own reality. The garden of eden is one way and we are following the devils the other way.
I hope to see my goals and visions materialize. I do not want to do something to kill in it before it is born. Because if that was my son I might have fucked up and did things the wrong way. And right now you cannot get ignorant with the devil and win. We will never be bigger devils than white people. And if that was my son I might would have forgot that and I would have came at that police chief and made him produce the shooter.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/
I agree with the OP....
I live in northeast Ohio. That is where Cleveland is.
Google the place. It's Detroit-lite.I always say SOME. Some people can't comprehend that. Ain't one person living up here in northeast Ohio going to disagree about SOME black folks being out of control up here. We all have black friends and family and folks just want to be safe.
If you were from here and witnessed what happened to the inner-ring suburbs the last 20 years, you would be
. Ever witness shit turn hood for no fucking reason? It's sad shit.
Simplicity is a bitch.
Ol' "can't do more than one thing at a time" ass niggas....
I'll just copy and post a response I made to the million or so threads made on this very same ridiculous topic (never got any responses either);
You're conflating a bunch of different issues here. On the one hand... sure... I get it. "Black on black" violence is tragic. It should provoke outrage. It is a shame that more people aren't stepping up to combat the lawlessness of our respective communities... but none of this is analogous to the Martin case. This isn't simply about a black child being killed. Or even about a white/hispanic man doing the killing.
There are systemic issues involved here that touch on the way justice is dispensed in this country along racial lines. In a very real sense this two-tier justice system contributes directly to the phenomenon you're wringing your hands about in this very thread (namely "black-on-black" violence)... which is a direct result of having so many of our young black men criminalized immediately upon contact with the system. (consider that Zimmerman participated in a pre-trial diversion program after his first offense, assaulting a fucking police officer, and managed to avoid a record AND consequently get his CCW.... do you see the issues here?)
1 in 15 black men are in prison... this certainly has an impact on the kinds of communities we build. When you include a wide-eyed analysis of economic indicators a picture emerges that is far more complicated than simple hemming and hawing about our "NEED TO DO BETTER!!!" can ever solve.
What irritates me the most is when you guys jump on this fucking soapbox like a bunch of drama queens co-opting a heartbreaking story like Trayvon's.
The topic of violence in our communities is an important one... but a little nuance and some fucking class never hurts.
Ol' "can't do more than one thing at a time" ass niggas
.... I'll just copy and post a response I made to the million or so threads made on this very same ridiculous topic (never got any responses either);
You're conflating a bunch of different issues here. On the one hand... sure... I get it. "Black on black" violence is tragic. It should provoke outrage. It is a shame that more people aren't stepping up to combat the lawlessness of our respective communities... but none of this is analogous to the Martin case. This isn't simply about a black child being killed. Or even about a white/hispanic man doing the killing.
There are systemic issues involved here that touch on the way justice is dispensed in this country along racial lines. In a very real sense this two-tier justice system contributes directly to the phenomenon you're wringing your hands about in this very thread (namely "black-on-black" violence)... which is a direct result of having so many of our young black men criminalized immediately upon contact with the system. (consider that Zimmerman participated in a pre-trial diversion program after his first offense, assaulting a fucking police officer, and managed to avoid a record AND consequently get his CCW.... do you see the issues here?)
1 in 15 black men are in prison... this certainly has an impact on the kinds of communities we build. When you include a wide-eyed analysis of economic indicators a picture emerges that is far more complicated than simple hemming and hawing about our "NEED TO DO BETTER!!!" can ever solve.
What irritates me the most is when you guys jump on this fucking soapbox like a bunch of drama queens co-opting a heartbreaking story like Trayvon's.
The topic of violence in our communities is an important one... but a little nuance and some fucking class never hurts.
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