"Black" Conservatives - STAND UP AND BE HEARD!
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Actually most black people are quite conservative socially. Against gays. Against abortion. Heavily into the church. Not too friendly with illegals. Give a fuck about the environment. Most just don't realize outside of race, how closely their views are shared with the backwoods hicks that are traditionally known as conservatives. 
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
@ Black conservatives not even knowing they are conservatives.
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
@ Black conservatives not even knowing they are conservatives.
Actually most black people are quite conservative socially. Against gays. Against abortion. Heavily into the church. Not too friendly with illegals. Give a fuck about the environment. Most just don't realize outside of race, how closely their views are shared with the backwoods hicks that are traditionally known as conservatives.
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
http://www.alternet.org/story/21096/
The great untold story of the 2004 presidential elections was the black evangelical vote. Although black evangelicals still voted overwhelmingly for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, they gave Bush the cushion he needed to bag Ohio and win the White House. There were early warning signs that might happen. The same polls that showed black's prime concern was with bread and butter issues – and that Kerry was seen as the candidate who could deliver on those issues – also revealed that a sizeable number of blacks ranked abortion, gay marriage and school prayer as priority issues. Their concern for these issues didn't come anywhere close to that of white evangelicals, but it was still higher than that of the general voting public.
A Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies poll in 2004 found that blacks by a far larger margin than the overall population opposed gay marriage. That raised a few eyebrows among some political pundits, but there were much earlier signs of blacks' relentless hostility to gays and gay rights. A survey that measured black attitudes toward gays published in Jet magazine in 1994 found that a sizable number of blacks were suspicious and scornful of them. Many blacks also loathed Kerry's perceived support of abortion. In polls, Kerry got 20 percent less support from black conservative evangelicals than Democratic presidential contender Al Gore received in 2000.
Of course 2008 black man+democrat trumps all that shit, but let it be white on white again and the conservatives can pull the same shit again with the church and use jebus to swing our vote.
Actually most black people are quite conservative socially. Against gays. Against abortion. Heavily into the church. Not too friendly with illegals. Give a fuck about the environment. Most just don't realize outside of race, how closely their views are shared with the backwoods hicks that are traditionally known as conservatives.
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
The black vote on Proposition 8 vote in CA is a good example of that. Outside of certain social/economic issues, black voting records are very similar to those that label themselves as conservatives (regardless of major party affiliation). This is part of the reason there were so many black republicans (including Dr. Martin Luther King) 40-50 yrs ago before the party morphed over time into what it is today with Dixiecrat leftovers and the fake grassroots history of the Tea Party.
Pimpin' Ain't Easy: The New Face of the Black Church
Today's New Black Church has become a pimp for Bush's agenda for blacks
by Jasmyne Cannick | Oct 11, 2005
"We're not just a church, we're an international corporation. We're not just a bumbling bunch of preachers who can't talk and all we're doing is baptizing babies. I deal with the White House. I deal with Tony Blair. I deal with presidents around this world. I pastor a multimillion-dollar congregation. You've got to put me on a different scale than the little black preacher sitting over there that's supposed to be just getting by because the people are suffering."
--Bishop Eddie Long, New Birth Missionary Church, Lithonia, Ga., August 2005.
The sad thing is, he's right.
Today's New Black Church is the offspring of the civil rights era, but can easily be identified by its debatable and sometimes laughable theology, superficiality, greed, materialism, heavy involvement in politics, tricked-out arena sized church, 10,000 or more member congregation and of course its superstar pastor.
Plainly put, today's black church is not your grandma's church.
No longer content with selling baked goods and holding parking lot sales that bring in few dollars, today's New Black Church hosts revivals that cater to thousands and produces blockbuster movies that bring in millions. From old-school nurses' boards to new-school communications directors, the New Black Church now employs hundreds of full-time professionals each year. It looks more like a Fortune 500 company than the little black church that is only "baptizing babies."
Refusing to be courted by politicians during the election season only, the New Black Church has cut out the middleman and has become a force to be reckoned with by dealing directly with the White House year-round.
Having descended from being the visionary voice and leader for millions of black Christians, the New Black Church has reached out and made new and bold alliances, most notably the newfound love between today's black pastors and President George W. Bush.
After being cajoled by controversial conservative Lou Sheldon, dozens of superstar black pastors declared their support for President Bush's Faith-Based Initiative at a special summit of black religious leaders in Los Angeles last February. At that meeting, they chose Lou Sheldon, a white religious conservative leader to speak on their behalf, even though they were black pastors who had assembled at a black church in Los Angeles to talk about messaging to black people.
Understanding the weakness of today's superstar pastors -- that being greed -- President Bush's Faith Based Initiative has successfully solicited and co-opted black pastors. He has single-handedly paved the way for the wooing of blacks over to the GOP camp under the guise of protecting marriage, allowing prayer in schools and eliminating abortions for women, creating a moral panic within black America.
Today's New Black Church has become a pimp for Bush's agenda for blacks.
Yet, however blatant Long's comments are, they, like many other superstar pastors' comments and actions, continue to go unchallenged by the rest of black America.
"But I do think that the vote is up for grabs in a way that it has not been traditionally. And so, we have often suffered from the Democratic Party, who assumed that they had our vote, and the Republican Party, who assumed that they couldn't get our vote."
--Bishop T.D. Jakes on CNN's Paula Zahn Now, February 2005.
Obviously fearful of losing the support of the New Black Church, black Democratic officials and civil rights leaders have offered no opposition to the New Black Church.
Meanwhile, Bush continues to refuse to meet with black civil rights leaders, but has met with the superstar pastors on more than one occasion.
Having conquered the media, entertainment arena and now the White House, superstar pastors are poising themselves for their greatest challenge yet: running for political office. With the right support, timing and enough money to back a successful campaign, it's not that far-fetched to expect to see superstar pastors catapult themselves into public office, on the GOP ticket.
In February, civil rights activist the Rev. Jesse Jackson, while speaking at Tavis Smiley's "State of the Black Union" held at Bishop Eddie Long's church in suburban Atlanta, cautioned black pastors to not be distracted by "non-budget, private morality issues."
Millions of blacks were duped into voting for a president who used "non-budget, private morality issues" to distract an entire community from the issues that affect the lives of all blacks, like access to health care, education, employment, eradicating HIV/AIDS and protecting Social Security.
Black leaders need to return from their vacations and address this issue head-on with the New Black Church, lest we see a repeat of the 2004 presidential election in 2008.
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=f7479b1eeff40f01e8052b1f7309a09d
Actually most black people are quite conservative socially. Against gays. Against abortion. Heavily into the church. Not too friendly with illegals. Give a fuck about the environment. Most just don't realize outside of race, how closely their views are shared with the backwoods hicks that are traditionally known as conservatives.
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
I've noticed this for quite some time myself. Races issues are the big dividing line.
Actually most black people are quite conservative socially. Against gays. Against abortion. Heavily into the church. Not too friendly with illegals. Give a fuck about the environment. Most just don't realize outside of race, how closely their views are shared with the backwoods hicks that are traditionally known as conservatives.
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
that was Ohio...most Black church people are VERY LIBERAL in their treatment and thinking towards others...live and let live.
that "conservative" mentality might have been true 20 or 30 years ago, but today?
nope.
Actually most black people are quite conservative socially. Against gays. Against abortion. Heavily into the church. Not too friendly with illegals. Give a fuck about the environment. Most just don't realize outside of race, how closely their views are shared with the backwoods hicks that are traditionally known as conservatives.
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
I think you are throwing the net too widely here the whole country for the most part is anti homosexuality so black being in that group says nothing of conservatism and abortion is more predominant per captia in the black community so I don't agree with this premise that black are against abortion.
The environment no one cares but the tree huggers blacks catching too much hell for it to be a pressing issue. But Blacks economically in the wallet stand fervently against conservatism.
conservative economics have harmed blacks more than any other policy and is why blacks are and can never be considered conservatives so the blacks socially conservatives angle is a bullshit way to approach it and is a meaningless ploy to even latch black with that nonsense.
problem with the Tea Party and those simple minded whites is hardcore washington conservatives get them dumb ass hicks to vote against their own self interest every damn election to no fail. Gin up race,patriotism,homosexuality,and the biggie gun control and them white folks will side with the dude who is gonna offer them less help jobs,and poorer schools every damn time just as long as they can have their fake religion in schools, hold their guns and keep government taxes low for corporations who are gonna move their jobs to India. lol
That simply isn't true. How do you explain the black vote on prop 8 in California? The same thing that happened in Ohio happened in the "hippest" state in the Union. It sure wasn't liberal whites voting to ban gay marriage.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html
.........That appeal ran head-on into a well-funded and well-framed advertising campaign in favor of the ban -- and the deeply ingrained religious beliefs of an African American community that largely declined to see the issue through a prism of equality.
Actually most black people are quite conservative socially. Against gays. Against abortion. Heavily into the church. Not too friendly with illegals. Give a fuck about the environment. Most just don't realize outside of race, how closely their views are shared with the backwoods hicks that are traditionally known as conservatives.
That's why it was so easy for black churches to get black people in Ohio to vote for Bush in 2004. Bring out the anti-gay and anti-abortion shit and it was a wrap.
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