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Amazon is snapping up disused shopping malls and turning them into fulfillment centers
"I see articles about Amazon building here and Amazon building there. I’m not sure any of us really fully understand the implications because it’s happening so so fast,” the resident of one such neighborhood said.
A woman works at a packing station at the 855,000-square-foot Amazon fulfillment center in Staten Island, N.Y., on Feb. 5, 2019.Johannes Eisele / AFP via Getty Images file


April 5, 2021, 5:25 PM EDT
By Leticia Miranda
Malls that buckled due to e-commerce or suffered during the pandemic are being given new life by the very entity that precipitated their decline — Amazon.
Over the last several months, the retail giant has gone on a shopping spree of its own, buying up disused malls across the country and turning them into distribution centers.

In March, Amazon won approval to turn a mall in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, into a 3.4 million-square-foot distribution building, and a mall in Knoxville, Tennessee, into a 220,000-square-foot distribution center. In December, the local planning board in Worcester, Massachusetts, signed off on Amazon's request to convert the city's Greendale Mall into a 121,000-square-foot distribution center.
Between 2016 and 2019, Amazon converted around 25 shopping malls, according to an analysis by Coresight Research. Last year, it was reportedly in talks with Simon Property Group, the country's biggest mall owner, to convert bankrupt JCPenney and Sears department stores into fulfillment centers. Target and Walmart have also remodeled some of their own stores into mini fulfillment centers.
The Knoxville Center mall in Knoxville, Tenn.Google
“The reality is that the cash flow at these lower-quality malls is declining rapidly,” said Vince Tibone, lead retail and industrial analyst at the real estate analytics firm Green Street. “You have to decide, ‘Do I want to do something myself to invest a lot of money to transform this dead retail into thriving retail or put up offices?’ Selling a dead mall as land is a more attractive option.”
About 50 percent of mall-based department stores could permanently close by the end of 2021, according to Green Street. The majority of these mall closures are expected to be lower-tier shopping centers that make less than $320 per square foot of space, which makes it difficult to cover their mortgages, Tibone said.
Malls are already struggling to keep up with mortgage debt. Macerich, which runs about 50 shopping centers across the country, announced in February it is restructuring to rein in $1.5 billion in debt that comes due in July. CBL Properties, whose major tenants include Victoria's Secret and Foot Locker, reached an agreement in March with lenders to shave $1.6 billion from its balance sheet.
"Selling a dead mall as land is a more attractive option.”
Nikki Forman, a spokesperson for Amazon, declined to comment on its future plans to build on dead mall real estate. But she said the company is “constantly exploring new locations and weighing a variety of factors when deciding where to develop future sites to best serve customers.”
Local hubs
Amazon’s signature Prime Delivery depends on its national network of more than 100 fulfillment centers and roughly 1 million workers to get packages to a customer's front door within a day — or even an hour.
The pandemic has only accelerated Amazon’s retail business, as stores closed and people hunkered down at home to curb coronavirus infections. Net sales increased 37 percent in 2020 compared to the year before, leading the company to invest roughly $44 billion in capital expenditures, Brian Olsavsky, Amazon’s chief financial officer, told investors in February. Its fulfillment center footprint grew by 50 percent in 2020 compared to the year before, he said.
“In a [fulfillment center] world, it's hard to turn that capacity on quickly, so it generally means you may have to overbuild to protect the customer experience,” he said.
Cortana Mall in Baton Rouge will be Amazon's third distribution center in the area. Owned by Moonbeam Capital Investments and located in the east end of the city at the intersection of two major highways, the 1.4 million-square-foot mall has been on the decline since the years following the Great Recession. The mall was put on the market and taken off in 2018 because of a lack of interest. At the beginning of this year, the mall’s last remaining store, Dillard's Clearance Center, announced it would close.
“A lot of these malls that are going to the block, in a lot of cases the mortgage debt on the mall is worth more than the mall,” Alex Goldfarb, a senior research analyst at Piper Sandler, said. “You could easily have a mall that’s $50 million to $100 million in mortgage debt that gets sold for $20 million because there really aren't any tenants left and you’re selling for land value.”
Amazon's fulfillment center footprint grew by 50 percent in 2020.
Amazon bought the Cortana Mall property earlier this year for about $17 million, according to the East Baton Rouge Clerk of Court. That amounts to only about $6 a square foot. Additionally, the East Baton Rouge Metro Council approved a $35 million tax abatement for Seefried Properties to develop the project on behalf of Amazon.
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While Moonbeam did not respond to NBC News' request for comment, Baton Rouge Mayor Sharon Weston Broome said in a statement in March that she is in full support of the rezoning of the development of the former Cortana Mall.
“This generational project will create 1,000 new jobs for area residents,” she said. “Today's rezoning of Cortana Mall will be critical to moving this project forward."
Angry locals
But in Worcester, Massachusetts, where Amazon is building a distribution center on the site of a former mall, the company has received community pushback. At a planning commission meeting in December, dozens of people testified against the development, raising concerns about traffic, noise, labor conditions, emissions, impact on small businesses and the company’s anti-union efforts.
“Is this going to be community development, and what commitments is Amazon going to make to our community?” Kevin Ksen, a 40-year resident of Worcester who spoke at the meeting, told NBC News. “The response from most of us was, ‘What are you going to do in terms of workers to make sure they’re treated well, and are you going to be hiring union workers on these projects?’”
Jessica Schumer, an economic development manager with Amazon, said at the December meeting that the distribution center will create 70 new jobs that pay at least $15 an hour with full benefits. She also noted several examples of Amazon’s donations to local school districts and housing organizations. At the end of the month, Amazon got the green light to build.
Greendale Mall in Worcester, Mass.Google
Ksen said in an interview that he had hoped Finard Properties, the mall owner, would go through with its announced plans to transform the fading shopping center into a mixed-use location with shopping and housing. Now, with Amazon coming to town, he’s worried that the community won’t reap any benefits.
“I’ve seen the economic development happen to our community — it’s frustrating on a local level,” he said. “But, at the same time, I see a regular list of articles about Amazon building here and Amazon building there. I’m not sure any of us really fully understand the implications because it’s happening so so fast.”
Other benefits
Back in Tennessee, Knox County Mayor Glenn Jacobs said the new Amazon last mile distribution center is a welcome relief for the city, which had been losing money on the property. As sales waned, the mall’s owner, Knoxville Partners, became delinquent on roughly $600,000 in property taxes.
Amazon plans to hire 700 workers for the distribution center and has not requested a tax abatement for the project, he said.

While the county won’t earn as much property tax on a warehouse property compared to a mall, Jacobs said Amazon will have a broader impact on the local economy.
“It is the indirect impact of people who work there having more money in their pockets and spending more money and buying homes or renting apartments that will lead to tax increases that we have direct benefit from,” he said.
 
When them Amazon grocery stores gonna start up?

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I just heard on the radio the other day, they are looking to staff two stores here in the DMV
They may end up putting some of the Supermarkets we've grown up with all our lives out of business. You know they shit gonna be state of the art with the latest technology we never thought was possible in a grocery store. We ain't even gon wanna go back to them other stores. I can see it now.

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They may end up putting some of the Supermarkets we've grown up with all our lives out of business. You know they shit gonna be state of the art with the latest technology we never thought was possible in a grocery store. We ain't even gon wanna go back to them other stores. I can see it now.

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This is why most supermarket chains got shook when they bought Whole Foods and tried to block that deal.
 
I’m hoping those cats in Alabama get the Union organized down there.

If they pull it off, that will be a major game changer and spread nationwide and put Amazon in check.
 
If their store is cashless they might easily push away certain demographic that still like using money..which in turn means they allow stores they use cash to exist
I agree. For now. But if this shit's gonna go like I think all that will be phased out. More people don't use cash anyways. That trend will continue.

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I’m hoping those cats in Alabama get the Union organized down there.

If they pull it off, that will be a major game changer and spread nationwide and put Amazon in check.
They’re gonna fight tooth and nail to ensure unionization doesn’t happen and depending on how much money Bezos and company decide to pump into that campaign, they may very well get what they want.

Amazon has too much to lose to slow down productivity right now
 
Got several in nyc.. I haven’t been to 1 yet.. they were trying to do the cashless thing.. I know 1 state had a mini boycott saying the card only store was discriminating against cash people and amazon allowed cash in its store in that state
Cash people better get da fuck on board. Eventually they will have no choice.

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Different from a chip under your skin.

This scans the unique pattern of your palm.

Your palm on file with a credit card.


 
They’re gonna fight tooth and nail to ensure unionization doesn’t happen and depending on how much money Bezos and company decide to pump into that campaign, they may very well get what they want.

Amazon has too much to lose to slow down productivity right now
Your right. At this point absolutely nothing will get in their way. And I'm okay with that. It's like when Wal-Mart popped up. K-Mart knew it was a wrap. :itsawrap:

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Cash people better get da fuck on board. Eventually they will have no choice.

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Cash is king.. people need to stay with tradition..cause if they phase out cash they don’t understand what kind of negative repercussions that could come from that.. 1 “glitch” and certain demographic mysteriously have all their money wiped out or they unable to use their cards and well all kinda fuckery will happen.. there’s already been “test” uhh I mean “glitches” where things like ebt cards in certain small towns didn’t work for several days and their was panic , anger, etc.. test are always done b4 the big rollout
 
So, 150 dollars on Amazon stock on the Cash App?

Cash is king.. people need to stay with tradition..cause if they phase out cash they don’t understand what kind of negative repercussions that could come from that.. 1 “glitch” and certain demographic mysteriously have all their money wiped out or they unable to use their cards and well all kinda fuckery will happen.. there’s already been “test” uhh I mean “glitches” where things like ebt cards in certain small towns didn’t work for several days and their was panic , anger, etc.. test are always done b4 the big rollout

Nope, cash in prince. Cash should be used for buying up assets only. With all this stimulus money, and the businesses reopening, inflation will eat
up more of your dollars and most of us having one stream of income, it's no good.

Find precious metals, real estate, stock, bonds, crypto, futures, whatever, but don't let cash be stagnant. At least cash isn't traceable.

They bought out old Randall Mall in Cleveland
So check out the property nearby.
 
The mall they took over here in Birmingham has been dead for years. The close proximity to the projects killed it decades ago.
 
So, 150 dollars on Amazon stock on the Cash App?



Nope, cash in prince. Cash should be used for buying up assets only. With all this stimulus money, and the businesses reopening, inflation will eat
up more of your dollars and most of us having one stream of income, it's no good.

Find precious metals, real estate, stock, bonds, crypto, futures, whatever, but don't let cash be stagnant. At least cash isn't traceable.
Lot of those things need the king to be used to gain them.. you could take 1400 in cash and buy stock, you can get certain real estate with cash, you can use cash in crypto... the king is in all those lanes..respect his authority
 
Lot of those things need the king to be used to gain them.. you could take 1400 in cash and buy stock, you can get certain real estate with cash, you can use cash in crypto... the king is in all those lanes..respect his authority
Right on!! Always keep dirty green on deck to buy up more assets. Let it appreciate, sell it for more dirty dirty, and buy up more assets. Wash,
rinse, repeat.
 
Your right. At this point absolutely nothing will get in their way. And I'm okay with that. It's like when Wal-Mart popped up. K-Mart knew it was a wrap. :itsawrap:

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Yup. Supply and demand is a bitch and Amazon is taking it all over.

They KNOW people don’t wanna go to stores anymore. They’re going to perpetuate American laziness as much humanly possible and every aspect of our lives delivered to doorsteps.

On the real, I wonder how long before Amazon starts coming for Walmart’s neck..
 
Yup. Supply and demand is a bitch and Amazon is taking it all over.

They KNOW people don’t wanna go to stores anymore. They’re going to perpetuate American laziness as much humanly possible and every aspect of our lives delivered to doorsteps.

On the real, I wonder how long before Amazon starts coming for Walmart’s neck..
Yup. I agree with all of this. All in due time. It's definitely been talked about.

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Cash is king.. people need to stay with tradition..cause if they phase out cash they don’t understand what kind of negative repercussions that could come from that.. 1 “glitch” and certain demographic mysteriously have all their money wiped out or they unable to use their cards and well all kinda fuckery will happen.. there’s already been “test” uhh I mean “glitches” where things like ebt cards in certain small towns didn’t work for several days and their was panic , anger, etc.. test are always done b4 the big rollout
Can't argue with that. Your right.

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