Bill Simmons going in on Rasheed Wallace

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A few episodes ago on "Lost," something happened that made me think of Rasheed Wallace. Don't worry, I can explain it without violating the Spoiler Alert Treaty from the 2006 United Nations summit. Character A was explaining to Character B that they absolutely needed to kill Character X. And the reason was this: Although Character X was already dead, he had an infection inside him that, if left alone, would blossom and make Character X a potentially dangerous force.

You cannot heal this infection, Character A explained. You cannot treat it with medication. You can only kill Character X.

Character B disagreed. Character X was his friend. He couldn't kill him. He had to roll the dice and hope Character A was wrong.

I am not wrong, Character A said simply. We are endangering everyone's lives by letting Character X live.

And I was watching this thinking, "My God, Character X is Rasheed Wallace! We let him live, and now he's destroying everyone on the island! Why didn't we take him out in time? WHY DIDN'T WE TAKE HIM OUT IN TIME????????"

That may seem demented to you. After all, Character X ended up killing Character A by force. Wallace is only a 35-year-old bench player on a pseudocontender that will lose in Round 1 or 2 of the playoffs. But it's been a decidedly unhappy regular season for a 50-win team. Forget about Kevin Garnett's balky knee or Paul Pierce's aching body -- there were damaging trade rumors, young guns (Kendrick Perkins and Rajon Rondo) rebelling against the old guard, legitimate alpha dog and chemistry issues, a coach who can't consistently motivate his team or settle on a rotation, ongoing rebounding woes and, worst of all, old legs. Only Rondo's individual brilliance made things tolerable. Everything else felt like the basketball version of that movie in which Leo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet scream at each other for two hours.

Did Wallace infect the team, or was the team already infected? Probably the latter. Probably. To be safe, let's figure it out. Everything you're about to read has nothing to do with Wallace's qualifications as a friend, husband, father or son. I am discussing him as a basketball player only. We will call that person "Sheed."

Sheed will finish the 2009-10 regular season next week as my least favorite Celtic ever, edging out Todd Day, Fred Roberts, Sidney Wicks, Curtis Rowe and Vin Baker. At least Vinnie had an excuse: a drinking problem. Sheed has an apathy problem. His doughy, nonchalant shadow looms over every game.

Sheed roped the Celtics into giving him an $18.9 million, three-year deal, made a big stink about breaking MJ's 72-win record and then showed up for training camp wearing a fat suit.

Sheed caused my 62-year-old father to send me the following text recently: "Wallace can't rebound, blocks nobody out, gets outhustled on every rebound and plays matador defense. What an awful Celtic!!!!"

Sheed caused me to respond, "You forgot about all the 3s he misses."

Sheed is so out of shape that Reggie Miller started a sentence during the Cavs-Celtics game on TNT last month with "When Rasheed Wallace gets into game shape …"

Sheed has been healthy since the first day of training camp.

Sheed likes jogging at half-speed. He submits entire sequences -- two or three minutes at a time, six or seven trips up and down the court -- without ever passing either foul line. Sometimes I count to see how many consecutive possessions Sheed can pull off without crossing either charity stripe. His unofficial record is nine.

Sheed doesn't rebound as much as debound. "Lazy" isn't a strong enough word. He always seems to be standing in the wrong spot. He constantly forgets to box out. His hops are long gone, so balls routinely bounce over his head to opposing players. When matched against a hustler like Anderson Varejao, it's like watching a golden retriever fight off a Rottweiler. Advanced metrics prove that he's a catastrophic offensive rebounder and someone who subtly altered the identity of this season's Celtics team. (See sidebar.) So there's that.

Sheed's plus/minus is predictably bad: minus-4.6. I don't trust individual plus/minus as much as numbers for five-man lineups, so let's dig deeper. When Boston's three best perimeter players (Rondo, Pierce and Ray Allen) play with Garnett and Perkins, that unit is plus-280 for the season (plus-12.0 per 48 minutes). Swap Wallace for Perkins and it dips to minus-19 (-5.0 per 48 minutes). Swap Wallace for Garnett and it dips to minus-4 (minus-1.1 per 48 minutes).

Sheed makes me say the words, "Why won't we play Brian Scalabrine?"

Sheed lists himself as 6-foot-11, but he's probably two inches taller than that. Announcers love saying how "long" he is. Announcers love that he can play down low or shoot 3s … you know, on paper, because he does neither of these things successfully and hasn't for two solid years. But hey, it sounds great.

Sheed owns a beautiful baseline turnaround, but he keeps it in the garage like a covered Ferrari. It's a breathtaking shot. He catches a pass on the left block, whirls effortlessly toward the baseline, pushes off so he's going up (not sideways) and releases the ball well above his head. All in one motion. Nobody can block it.

Sheed shoots this turnaround once a game. Sometimes twice if we're lucky.

Sheed's coaches always wish he would "go in the block more often." They never demand it; if they do, they know they won't get it. So it's more of a suggestion. Like reminding your spouse, "Hey, we haven't had sex in a while." If broached the right way, Sheed might shift his focus the next game, with his head down low, and bank home a couple of turnarounds. As though he's acknowledging, "You're right, I could do this." Then he goes back to standing behind the 3-point line.

Sheed makes his coaches want to become TV analysts.

Sheed is so gifted that during a Clippers game in December, he pivoted Bill Walton-style, searched for a cutter, froze Brian Skinner, held the ball over his head for an extra second and then casually banked home a 15-footer … flat-footed. Boston's bench guys had an appropriate reaction: part glee, part disbelief, part have-you-ever-seen-that-before? I was sitting 10 feet away. Rondo even slapped palms with a teammate and exchanged "I'm glad we shared that together" looks.

Sheed loves moments like that. He's like an antisocial cat that suddenly jumps onto your lap to mess with your head. Hey, buddy! Where'd you come from? This is great! Can I pet you? And just like that, they jump off.

Sheed never wanted the responsibility of being consistently great. That's a different kind of pressure. That's bringing it every month, every week, every game, every quarter. That's working in the gym long after everyone else has left. That's dealing with a steady stream of opponents saying to themselves before every game, "I'm playing Sheed tonight, I gotta give him my best." That's dealing with fans who expect you to come through instead of being pleasantly surprised when you do.

Sheed likes leaving people pleasantly surprised.

Sheed has earned $150 million in salary since 1995. Most fans, media members and other players regard his career as a success. And maybe it was. That's a lot of money. Until you remember that he has never made an All-NBA team. Or an All-Defense team. Or that he has made the All-Star team only four times (once as an injury replacement). Then it's not so impressive.

Sheed reminds me of Randy Moss: good in great situations, destructive in bad ones. A front-runner. After the 2007-08 Pistons blew a playoff game to Boston, Sheed reportedly called coach Flip Saunders "the worst [bleeping] coward I've ever seen" in the locker room … in front of the entire team. He played his best basketball for Larry Brown, who challenged him and refused to let him coast. He played his worst basketball for Michael Curry, quitting on the Pistons so egregiously that free-agent suitors couldn't decipher whether Sheed was washed up. The Celtics rolled the dice and hoped Curry was the problem. They were wrong.

Sheed taught everyone that "He's not washed up, he just quit on his coach" should never be your justification for signing a free agent.

Sheed remains one of the NBA's smartest players. I watched him sitting on the bench during that Clips game for four quarters. Couldn't stop staring at him, actually. His wheels were turning the entire time. He's not a bad teammate, nor is he disruptive. He yells out instructions. Works the refs. Doesn't miss a trick. During crunch time, Sheed was sitting in the last bench seat with a gorgeous L.A. girl to his left. She tried to interact with him during dead spots. He ignored her. She bumped him happily after a couple of Boston baskets. He ignored her. Sheed was locked in. I was impressed. It almost made up for the fact that he played 24 minutes, missed 12 of 16 shots and bricked all seven of this 3s. Almost.

Sheed loves being on a winning team. Loves the camaraderie, loves needling opponents, loves riding the refs, loves barking encouragement after big plays. I would bet anything that this past summer, Sheed knew he was done and decided, "Instead of retiring, I'll just sign with a contender, pocket another $20 million, hang with the fellas, jack up some 3s, play myself into shape during the regular season, then go hard in May and June." You could execute a plan like that only if you didn't care what fans thought.

Sheed couldn't care less.

Sheed caused me to e-mail my buddy Hench in December just to ask whether he remembered seeing Sheed run harder than half-speed even once. Hench's response: "I've yet to see Sheed make a fast-twitch move that would have spilled a beverage if he was carrying one on the court."

Sheed's basketball IQ remains his most confounding quality. He makes one beautiful pass per game. He sees angles that other big men don't see. When motivated, he can swallow up any low-post move. He loves guarding Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard. He can shut them down two or three times in a row by himself. And after he proves this to himself, he relaxes and gives up an easy basket. Whatever. He stopped them the other times.

Sheed's reputation as a great help defender at this point of his career might be the biggest Sheed-related myth of all. He's too slow to jump out on shooters. He's surprisingly inconsistent on rotations (only the bread and butter of Boston's defense these past three seasons). He leads the league in per-minute averages in two imaginary categories: "most times giving a soft foul when a hard one was required" and "most times avoiding contact entirely as a guy drives right at him for a layup or floater." LeBron sees Sheed and thinks to himself, "All I have to do is dribble right at him and he will either jump out of my way or love-tap me. … Either way, I am getting two points."

Sheed made the Celtics softer. You will never convince me otherwise.

Sheed loves jacking 3s despite mixed results throughout the years. He's a 33.7 percent career 3-point shooter. He's attempted 160-plus 3-pointers in 10 different seasons; never has he made more than 36 percent. During his two best Portland seasons (1999-2000 and 2000-01), Sheed averaged 18 points per game, 7.4 rebounds per game and 51 percent field goal shooting, and attempted 10 times as many 2-pointers as 3-pointers. This season, through 74 games, he's attempted 329 2-pointers and 275 3-pointers … and grabbed 298 rebounds.

Sheed has a gray patch on the back of his head. I think it's there as a warning to everyone who hasn't coached him before.

Sheed jacked up 202 3s in the first 41 games of this season (nearly five per game), making just 61 of them (30 percent) … even though he was playing only 23 minutes per game. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, he was headed for the third-worst percentage of any player who ever played 40-plus games and averaged four-plus 3s per game in a season. Yes, ever. The good news: He takes fewer 3s now. The bad news: He also makes fewer of them. Since Feb. 1, Sheed has made 16 of 72 3-pointers (22.2 percent). His season average: 28.2 percent.

Sheed takes wide-open 3s. Every time. And still … 28.2 percent.

Sheed caused Hench to e-mail me after attending February's Celts-Lakers game, "Rasheed's 20 minutes tonight should be put in a time capsule and studied by future generations. 2-for-11 … clanked his only free throw … dunked on a few times … unforced turnover 40 feet from the basket … just one of the worst basketball players I've ever seen."

Sheed didn't even play his worst game of the season that night.

Sheed has earned an NBA-record 314 career technicals (and counting), peaking with 41 in 2000-01 (also a record). Referees treat him as if he's wearing a Tim Donaghy Halloween mask. At least in the old days, he was a good player -- something of a tortured genius -- so the refs put up with him. Now that he's washed up? They detest him. Even as a bench player, he leads the league with 18 techs this season, earning him an automatic suspension that unfortunately ended after only one game.

Sheed reacts with abject horror to every call against him. He flips out. He hops around in disbelief. He makes you think, "My God, why would they wrong him like this? What do they have against him? IT'S A CONSPIRACY!" Then you see the replay and … yup, he fouled him.

Sheed's tantrums have a habit of jump-starting runs for opponents. It usually unfolds like this: As the Celtics lead by double digits on the road, Sheed gets whistled for something dumb, Sheed overreacts, Sheed gets a technical, Sheed keeps pushing it, Sheed gets pulled away, Sheed keeps letting it fester and fester, and just like that, a completely dead crowd has been injected with life. In December, Boston blew an 11-point lead in Philly after Sheed got ejected. This will happen during the playoffs at least once. I promise you.

Sheed's current coach, Doc Rivers, has been afraid to bench him, call him out publicly or tell his owner, "I can't play Sheed anymore, he's too much of a liability." On Sunday against Cleveland, after Sheed threw a tantrum and drew a technical, Rivers snapped and exchanged heated words with him. Sheed never returned. It would have been the perfect time for the coach to declare afterward, "Bench players can't turn officials against their team in big games. If Sheed can't accept this, I can't play him anymore. Period." The coach did not say this. Big mistake.

Sheed caused me to mail my father a rough draft of this column four weeks ago. Dad's take: "It is a little harsh, but I'm not sure how to make it less harsh. Maybe a couple of words here or there to make it seem like a little less of a personal attack. Otherwise, that's Sheed!"

Sheed caused me to struggle with Dad's request. But I did my best.

Sheed once made this Christmas video that I loved. It captures his sense of humor perfectly. Sheed is definitely funny … when he wants to be.

Sheed purchased championship belts for everyone on the 2004-05 Pistons. He even wore his belt to select big games. I had wanted a player to do that.

Sheed seemed like a fun teammate in the past. I remember attending a big Pistons-Celtics regular-season game in 2008; Boston's crowd was especially fired up because alpha dog status was on the line, so we booed Detroit's intros and went ballistic when the lights turned down for our video opening. In the pitch-black arena, you could barely make out the Pistons bunched in a circle, ignoring the moment, hopping up and down in unison. Sheed was directly in the middle, jumping higher than everyone and screaming toward the ceiling. Just a guy who loved showing up for big games. I remember thinking to myself, "Uh-oh, those guys are locked in." They were. The Celtics lost.

Sheed lived for those moments -- once upon a time.

Sheed played for two passionate fan bases, Portland and Detroit. Both couldn't wait to ditch him. Pistons fans loved him but thought he was done. (They had good reason: In Cleveland's first-round sweep of Detroit last season, Sheed notched 26 points and 25 rebounds … total.) Portland fans despised him because his "Jail Blazers" nearly murdered professional basketball there. Management only salvaged the situation by blowing up the roster and promising fans that nothing like the Sheed era would happen again.

Sheed's Portland career nearly earned its own "30 for 30" episode. He wore a "F*** WHAT YA HEARD" T-shirt to his introductory news conference. He was suspended two different times for whipping towels at a teammate and a referee. He drew a seven-game suspension because "he accosted a referee and threatened him." He threatened to punch a sports writer. He whipped a basketball at a teammate who was shooting practice jumpers with his back to him, then ran off giggling as the poor guy writhed in pain. He was arrested for marijuana possession while driving in a car with a teammate. He claimed the NBA exploited black players and said "I ain't no dumb-ass n----- out here" (and was admonished by NBA commissioner David Stern for being "hateful" and "ignorant"). Portland finally traded him a few weeks after he invented the phrase "cut the check," which Sheed defined like this: "As long as somebody 'CTC,' at the end of the day I'm with them. For all you that don't know what CTC means, that's 'Cut the Check.' I just go out there and play. Again, somebody just CTC."

Sheed is fortunate that everyone has forgotten those stories.

Sheed earned a big-game player reputation despite having a prominent role in the NBA's biggest Game 7 collapse ever (Lakers-Blazers, 2000 Western finals: Sheed went 0-for-6 down the stretch and bricked two huge free throws). He also made one of the biggest NBA brain farts ever (leaving a scorching-hot Robert Horry wide-open during Game 5 of the 2005 Finals, a play that single-handedly swung the title that season).

Sheed is fortunate that nobody seems to remember those two games.

Sheed has been lucky that nobody expects anything from him anymore. (When I texted my buddy Bug this week asking why he thought Boston fans hadn't turned on Sheed yet, he texted back, "Easy. Apathy.") When Sheed inexplicably caught fire against Oklahoma City last week, the crowd yelled "Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!" after every make, almost as if everyone was trying to find out what the moment might feel like. He's been written off as anything of consequence. Expectations are zero. And maybe he likes it that way.

Sheed's Celtics are 25-24 since Christmas. The 2008 world champs killed themselves every night. A depleted 2008-09 Celtics team exhibited remarkable pride and heart. Now they're bored and sluggish? Now they're searching for ways to get fired up? Now they're blowing home games left and right? Now they're on pace to break the unofficial record for "most players-only meetings and clear-the-air dinners" by a contender in one season? A team led by three future Hall of Famers who ALWAYS tried in the past? It doesn't add up.

Sheed may not have infected the Celtics as Character X did, but he did compromise the one thing that made them special: intensity. They care only when it suits them. The seven words that defined Sheed's career. Both the team and Sheed think they have an on/off switch that can be flicked at any time. Not true. They are in denial. "Lost" has the Smoke Monster; the Celtics have the Smoke and Mirrors Monster. And it's the entire team.

Sheed keeps chugging along undaunted. Normally when a once-effective player loses his fastball, you empathize with him. Not this time. 2010 Sheed stubbornly carries himself like 2004 Sheed -- same shot selection, same swagger, same antagonistic relationship with officials, same hit-or-miss intensity, only with 35-year-old legs and love handles. You would think a basketball *genius* would adjust and keep thriving as a bench guy and teammate. You would think he felt guilty about repeatedly letting down the bosses who signed him, the peers who recruited him and the fans who pay to watch him. You would think he cared about winning a second title. You would think.

Sheed famously likes to say, "Ball don't lie." He's right. Ball says Sheed should get in shape or retire. I bet he'll do neither. Cut that check.

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Come on. Bill Simmons takes the L with this shit. Niggas been saying this shit for 10 years now. Sheed is what he is. One of the most gifted players to ever play in the NBA to not play to his potential. Rasheed "CTC" Wallace. That being said, he's still a solid player in this league. Telling a 35 year old player to finally get in shape. :lol: Come on Bill. Sheed still a solid contributor. Celtics gonna need him because KG ain't where he needs to be.
 
Peace,

He's absolutely right, though (as much as I hate to admit it). A couple of years ago I had an approximately hour-long argument with my friend about 'Sheed. My argument was this: if he'd given a shit, he could have been the best PF of all time. Of all time. I still stand behind that.
 
Peace,

He's absolutely right, though (as much as I hate to admit it). A couple of years ago I had an approximately hour-long argument with my friend about 'Sheed. My argument was this: if he'd given a shit, he could have been the best PF of all time. Of all time. I still stand behind that.

If he gave a shit could he have been great, borderline hall of fame, possibly. Best PF of all time. No way.
 
Come on. Bill Simmons takes the L with this shit. Niggas been saying this shit for 10 years now. Sheed is what he is. One of the most gifted players to ever play in the NBA to not play to his potential. Rasheed "CTC" Wallace. That being said, he's still a solid player in this league. Telling a 35 year old player to finally get in shape. :lol: Come on Bill. Sheed still a solid contributor. Celtics gonna need him because KG ain't where he needs to be.

Peace,

How exactly does he take the L for this article? My big problem with Simmons is that he's completely incapable of writing anything objectively but I'm glad he's taking this shit with 'Sheed personally. That cat fucked up an All-World career with indifference and cheap theatrics.

Also, the Celtics don't need him. They need a player who can actually make a difference. 'Sheed ain't that cat.
 
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If he gave a shit could he have been great, borderline hall of fame, possibly. Best PF of all time. No way.

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At his prime, he was the most athletic PF in the league. He has a beautiful post up game (that he almost never uses) he's got a hell of a long range game (that he's too in love with) and he's an underrated passer. He doesn't rebound or defend that well because these two activities require that he give a shit. Like I said, if he cared, he would have been the best you've ever seen. Easily.
 
He did the same shit with the Pistons.... Wallace always takes games off...dude gets amped for a few games or for a few minutes...and then he is back to underachieving... Im still pissed about his dumb ass double teaming in the corner at the end of game 5 in the finals and leaving Robert Horry wide the fuck open..shit cost us the title.
 
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At his prime, he was the most athletic PF in the league. He has a beautiful post up game (that he almost never uses)

Back you down...turnaround J...... shit is almost automatic...and dude doesnt go to it...he would rather float and shoot 3s :smh::smh: dude used to frustrate the shit out of me
 
My big problem with Simmons is that he's completely incapable of writing anything objectively but I'm glad he's taking this shit with 'Sheed personally. That cat fucked up an All-World career with indifference and cheap theatrics.

Also, the Celtics don't need him. They need a player who can actually make a difference. 'Sheed ain't that cat.

At least he admits that he isn't objective.
 
Peace,

How exactly does he take the L for this article? My big problem with Simmons is that he's completely incapable of writing anything objectively but I'm glad he's taking this shit with 'Sheed personally. That cat fucked up an All-World career with indifference and cheap theatrics.

Also, the Celtics don't need him. They need a player who can actually make a difference. 'Sheed ain't that cat.

Simmons takes the L for this article because people have been saying this for 10 years now. People said this shit when he was with the Blazers. Damn near word for word. Simmons is 10 years late. Sheed is at the end of his career and now he's talking about is he gonna get in better shape? Fuck outta here Bill. You're a bit late.

And Sheed is still a defensive presence in this league. Simmons shitted on him but Sheed isn't a bad player. He's still a solid contributor. The whole Celtics squad is just Cadillacin' until the playoffs come around. Rivers giving Nate Robinson and Marquis Daniels DNP's. He's just fucking around until the playoffs come around.

If he gave a shit could he have been great, borderline hall of fame, possibly. Best PF of all time. No way.

:lol: Yea no way would he have been the greatest of all time. That's shitting on a lot of GREAT power fowards. I can't speak for anyone who played before the 90's but Sheed would've never been as good as Karl Malone, KG, Duncan, Chuck Barkley or hell even Dennis Rodman. You can even make a argument for Dirk and some other guys that are escaping me this moment.

Wanna know a guy who threw shit away though? Who could've really been one of the greatest?


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Back you down...turnaround J...... shit is almost automatic...and dude doesnt go to it...he would rather float and shoot 3s :smh::smh: dude used to frustrate the shit out of me

I was watching one of those special where the mic up players while they're on the floor and the cat they had the mic on (forgot who) was getting frustrated because 'Sheed kept lighting his ass up. One of the asst coaches just told him, 'Calm down. When he decides to do that there's nothing you can do.' Luckily for the player, 'Sheed inexplicably just stopped doing it. :smh:

At least he admits that he isn't objective.

Peace,

It's the subjectivity and excitability in tandem that bother me. He jumps to the most ridiculous conclusions based on which way the wind is blowing.
 
When he decides to do that there's nothing you can do.' Luckily for the player, 'Sheed inexplicably just stopped doing it. :smh:.

Ive never understood Sheed..when he was on my Pistons.. he would sometimes go off..score 10 straight and then not shoot the rest of the game :confused::smh:
 
The whole Celtics squad is just Cadillacin' until the playoffs come around. Rivers giving Nate Robinson and Marquis Daniels DNP's. He's just fucking around until the playoffs come around.

They're not going to be able to just turn it on when they hit the second season. They're not the Lakers.

:lol: Yea no way would he have been the greatest of all time. That's shitting on a lot of GREAT power fowards. I can't speak for anyone who played before the 90's but Sheed would've never been as good as Karl Malone, KG, Duncan, Chuck Barkley or hell even Dennis Rodman. You can even make a argument for Dirk and some other guys that are escaping me this moment.

Sheed has more offensive weapons than Karl Malone and is a better defender. He was stronger and more athletic than KG and Duncan. He has a better outside game than Charles. And Dennis Rodman? :lol: C'mon, bruh.
 
Ive never understood Sheed..when he was on my Pistons.. he would sometimes go off..score 10 straight and then not shoot the rest of the game :confused::smh:

Peace,

That's what I'm trying to tell these cats. When he cared to, he could score anytime the ball was in his hands. They don't know. Sheed was the best player on that championship Pistons squad without even trying to be. He could have been a career 25/11/5 cat.
 
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However im pretty sure he is talking about how Sheed doesnt do shit but shoot 3s, trots around the court, and doesnt rebound

shit we already knew
 
Peace,

That's what I'm trying to tell these cats. When he cared to, he could score anytime the ball was in his hands. They don't know. Sheed was the best player on that championship Pistons squad without even trying to be. He could have been a career 25/11/5 cat.

I think he COULD have been the best player on that team...I think when speaking about Sheed...you always have to say Potentially...because his actual career hasnt been all the exceptional actually...
 
Ive never understood Sheed..when he was on my Pistons.. he would sometimes go off..score 10 straight and then not shoot the rest of the game :confused::smh:

Sheed has interset in being the #1 guy or star of a team

Never has

That would mean he has to play hard and shit and you know he aint having that

I remember that year he said dont put him in the allstar game cuz he didnt want to play in it, Stern put him in just to piss him off :lol:
 
They're not going to be able to just turn it on when they hit the second season. They're not the Lakers.



Sheed has more offensive weapons than Karl Malone and is a better defender. He was stronger and more athletic than KG and Duncan. He has a better outside game than Charles. And Dennis Rodman? :lol: C'mon, bruh.

In order for Sheed to become the player he was suppose to he was gonna have to be more of a Karl Malone. Not no Toni Kukoc 3 point shucking muthafucka. As far as the Celtics not being the Lakers I don't disagree. I'm just saying what I see from them and they're just Cadillac'n out there. Playing like they just can't wait for the post season.

And here's my point about Rodman. Rodman is the best interior defender to ever step into this league. He could even guard out on the perimeter. The greatest rebounder of all time. Offensively challenged? Yeah. But what Rodman did defensively would've matched anything Sheed could do on both offense and defense. You dudes are seriously overrating what Sheed could've been lol. He has a lot of great attributes to his game. But he was never great at one thing and I don't believe he ever would've been even if he fulfilled his potential.

Karl Malone, Barkley and Duncan's basketball IQ's shit on Sheed's. They were smart basketball players. Its why Malone still played until he was damn near 40. HE didn't need the physical talents. He was smart enough to overcome them.

I'll see your Tarp and raise you THIS Negro:

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That Rod Strickland? That cat had some solid years under his belt I thought. Was it the Wizards or the Blazers he was ballin with? But Tarpley played like a man among boys. Dude was bound to explode and threw that shit away on drugs.
 
If he gave a shit could he have been great, borderline hall of fame, possibly. Best PF of all time. No way.

i think he easily could have been best pf of all time
he's 7ft1

he can dribble
he can pass
he can shoot
he has unbelievable post game
has unstoppable fade away
actually has a hook shot
he can rebound
he can defend both on the ball and away from the ball
he can block shots on the ball and away from the ball

he has every basketball attribute needed to be the best ever.
these arent things i listed that he could sometimes do and sometimes not. these are things that if he had the jordan drive he could do at an elite level every single night he suited up.

if he actually cared and wanted it he had the gifts to redefine the pf position and have us looking at ppl like duncan etc, in a well they dont compare to sheed type of way.

for whatever reason, it just wasnt in him to do it
 
By the way. For those of you who didn't read it, this is from the article:

"He wore a "F*** WHAT YA HEARD" T-shirt to his introductory news conference."

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In order for Sheed to become the player he was suppose to he was gonna have to be more of a Karl Malone. Not no Toni Kukoc 3 point shucking muthafucka. As far as the Celtics not being the Lakers I don't disagree. I'm just saying what I see from them and they're just Cadillac'n out there. Playing like they just can't wait for the post season.

And here's my point about Rodman. Rodman is the best interior defender to ever step into this league. He could even guard out on the perimeter. The greatest rebounder of all time. Offensively challenged? Yeah. But what Rodman did defensively would've matched anything Sheed could do on both offense and defense. You dudes are seriously overrating what Sheed could've been lol. He has a lot of great attributes to his game. But he was never great at one thing and I don't believe he ever would've been even if he fulfilled his potential.

Karl Malone, Barkley and Duncan's basketball IQ's shit on Sheed's. They were smart basketball players. Its why Malone still played until he was damn near 40. HE didn't need the physical talents. He was smart enough to overcome them.

Sheed actually does have a high basketball IQ, that nigga is just lazy

Bottom line is he could have been a career 20 and 10 guy instead of a 14.6 and 6.7 guy and you combine 20 and 10 with the ring and thats hall of fame
 
i think he easily could have been best pf of all time
he's 7ft1

he can dribble
he can pass
he can shoot
he has unbelievable post game
has unstoppable fade away
actually has a hook shot
he can rebound
he can defend both on the ball and away from the ball
he can block shots on the ball and away from the ball

he has every basketball attribute needed to be the best ever.
these arent things i listed that he could sometimes do and sometimes not. these are things that if he had the jordan drive he could do at an elite level every single night he suited up.

if he actually cared and wanted it he had the gifts to redefine the pf position and have us looking at ppl like duncan etc, in a well they dont compare to sheed type of way.

for whatever reason, it just wasnt in him to do it

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Ive never understood Sheed..when he was on my Pistons.. he would sometimes go off..score 10 straight and then not shoot the rest of the game :confused::smh:

that cause, he had the talent but not the desire to be great.

that's why i have so much respect for guys like kobe/mj/to, consistent greatness over long periods of time
 
Sheed actually does have a high basketball IQ, that nigga is just lazy

Bottom line is he could have been a career 20 and 10 guy instead of a 14.6 and 6.7 guy and you combine 20 and 10 with the ring and thats hall of fame

up those numbers. if sheed cared he coulda been a 25pt 10rb 5ast 2blk per game guy

EASY
 
In order for Sheed to become the player he was suppose to he was gonna have to be more of a Karl Malone. Not no Toni Kukoc 3 point shucking muthafucka. As far as the Celtics not being the Lakers I don't disagree. I'm just saying what I see from them and they're just Cadillac'n out there. Playing like they just can't wait for the post season.

And here's my point about Rodman. Rodman is the best interior defender to ever step into this league. He could even guard out on the perimeter. The greatest rebounder of all time. Offensively challenged? Yeah. But what Rodman did defensively would've matched anything Sheed could do on both offense and defense. You dudes are seriously overrating what Sheed could've been lol. He has a lot of great attributes to his game. But he was never great at one thing and I don't believe he ever would've been even if he fulfilled his potential.

Karl Malone, Barkley and Duncan's basketball IQ's shit on Sheed's. They were smart basketball players. Its why Malone still played until he was damn near 40. HE didn't need the physical talents. He was smart enough to overcome them..

Peace,

Nah, bruh. Rodman fooled you cats into believing he was the best rebounder of all time because he sacrificed the rest of his game to do it. 'Sheed (again, the major caveat here is "If he wanted to") could score on opponents AT WILL. At his prime, he ran up and down the court like a gazelle, ate up cats in the post, and regularly buried mid-range Js. I'm telling you, 'Sheed could have been GREAT.
 
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FUCK SHEED!!!! We shoulda had 1 more ring in the D, but outta all people this nigga leaves Robert fuckin Horry open for 3!!! Once again FUCK SHEED!!!!:angry::angry:
 
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