Bill Gates breaks with tech industry over FBI's iPhone hack request

[lukas james]

I'm all for privacy, but it seems like too many people are getting hung up on details that are meaningless to this particular case.
We're talking about a smartphone belonging to a dead terrorist. Sure it technically belongs to his former employer, but you would think that company would be just as concerned as anyone else regarding what else dude had been up to. Fuck around and find out that everybody in Accounts Receivable is part of a sleeper cell.
There's nothing stopping Apple from unlocking the phone and making the phone's contents available to investigators. They don't have to reveal their methods to the government in order to do this. They don't have to provide the feds with a master key of any sort. Tim Cook's entire argument is just posturing for Apple's consumer base.

Dead terrorists have a right to privacy? FOH.

 

[woodchuck]

It's a slippery slope once they allow the Feds in. Good on Cook.

Allowing them to do "just this ONE thing", is the equivalent to "I just wanna put the head in."

 

[Mo-Better]

Officially Gates stepped down at MS around 2008/9 if I remember correctly. Yeah he ducked out before Windows 8, smart guy.

Although I agree with the stand to not unlock that phone, I also believe there's room for exceptions, a known terrorist like in this case doesn't deserve that type of protection.

Apple fears is if they give in they will lose customers. They don't give a shit about that dude.

 

[AwwSchitt]

I'm all for privacy, but it seems like too many people are getting hung up on details that are meaningless to this particular case.
We're talking about a smartphone belonging to a dead terrorist. Sure it technically belongs to his former employer, but you would think that company would be just as concerned as anyone else regarding what else dude had been up to. Fuck around and find out that everybody in Accounts Receivable is part of a sleeper cell.
There's nothing stopping Apple from unlocking the phone and making the phone's contents available to investigators. They don't have to reveal their methods to the government in order to do this. They don't have to provide the feds with a master key of any sort. Tim Cook's entire argument is just posturing for Apple's consumer base.

Dead terrorists have a right to privacy? FOH.

From what I read the government isn't simply asking Apple to unlock the phone. They want Apple to let them into their system so they can unlock the phone themselves.

The government has hackers that can unlock the phone. John McAfee has also offered to unlock the phone for them. They're turning a blind eye to all of them. From the outside looking in it appears the government really wants in on Apples system so they can open a back door to the data.

 

[woodchuck]

From what I read the government isn't simply asking Apple to unlock the phone. They want Apple to let them into their system so they can unlock the phone themselves.

The government has hackers that can unlock the phone. John McAfee has also offered to unlock the phone for them. They're turning a blind eye to all of them. From the outside looking in it appears the government really wants in on Apples system so they can open a back door to the data.

Just in case they run into another situation like this, they won't have to "bother" Apple again.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Of course he gonna throw stones at his business rival.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Niggas still fearful of "terrorists" and wanna feel safe, huh???

 

[SIDESHOW]

Good discussion going on in here

 

[michant2]

So, more information has come out. The FBI is apparently willing to let Apple do it's thing in the lab and just give FBI access to the phone without leaving campus. Apple doesn't want to be forced to write another version of IOS without the Passcode 10 Incorrect Tries Auto-erase and the 5 second delay between passcode entry and the requirement to actually enter the passcode on the touch screen so they can hook the phone up for a brute force attack. Apple doesn't even want to write the code for the risk of it getting out somehow, also they will be swarmed with requests from Law Enforcement Agencies everywhere to do the same thing. I found an article where a guy basically said the NSA can take the phone apart, remove the chip and get the UDID and put the phone's disk on another system and crack the encryption. Also, I spoke with a "guy who knows a guy" who says that there is a jailbreak "somewhere" that certain disreputable people use to unlock iPhones they "find" on the street. So, why is the FBI being a pain in the ass to Apple, and why can't the FBI man-up and ask the NSA for help? (apparently, the NSA route is very costly and the FBI doesn't want to pay for it.) All this over some shit some dude who's highly motivated to resell a "found" iPhone could do in his own home.

 

[michant2]

As far as how I feel? I'm more concerned with the safety of the US and our data. If Apple is forced to give in, what's to stop China from requiring them to do the same thing? China's government has been asking Apple to do this shit for a while and Apple refuses. Once that shit is written, it's going to get out. Apple's servers will immediately come under attack by every able-bodied hacker (China, Russia, North Korea, I'm looking at you) in the world and that shit will be reversed engineered and nobody's IOS device will be secure. So yeah, I'm for the needs of the many out-weigh the needs of the one. If the FBI can't use what they have to figure out whatever it is they are looking for, then maybe they need to get better investigators or work a little bit harder. Either way, it's naive to think that he was dumb enough to have anything on the phone anyway. The FBI has the phone records, text messages, iCloud data, the iCloud back-up of the phone...find out how they got the guns, follow the money, do the fucking ground work and stop trying to chip away at my privacy.