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Bill Gates breaks with tech industry over FBI's iPhone hack request

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Bill Gates breaks with tech industry over FBI's iPhone hack request

February 23

NEW DELHI

Tech industry luminary Bill Gates has suggested that Apple is mischaracterizing its fight against an FBI request to unlock the iPhone of deceased San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook.

"It is no different than ... should anybody ever have been able to tell the phone company to get information ... should anybody be able to get at bank records," the Microsoft (MSFT,Tech30) founder said in an interview with theFinancial Times. "There's no difference between information."

Apple (AAPL, Tech30) CEO Tim Cook has vigorously opposed the FBI's demand, saying the government is asking the company to "hack our own users and undermine decades of security advancements that protect our customers." Breaking into the smartphone, Cook claims, requires building a backdoor that "could be used over and over again, on any number of devices."

The tech industry has rallied around Apple as it resists the FBI's order. Google (GOOG),Twitter (TWTR, Tech30) and Facebook (FB,Tech30) have all backed the company. But Gates appears to see the issue differently.

"This is a specific case where the government is asking for access to information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking for a particular case," Gates said.

FBI Director James Comey has described his agency's request as "limited."

"We simply want the chance, with a search warrant, to try to guess the terrorist's passcode without the phone essentially self-destructing and without it taking a decade to guess correctly," he said. "That's it. We don't want to break anyone's encryption or set a master key loose on the land."

Gates is still on Microsoft's board of directors, but he's no longer involved in running the software giant day to day. Although the company hasn't issued its own official statement on the Apple case, it is a member of the Reform Government Surveillance alliance.

That group of companies, which also includesYahoo (YAHOF) and AOL, put out a statement last week saying that "technology companies should not be required to build in backdoors to the technologies that keep their users' information secure."
 
DJCandle said:
It's a slippery slope once they allow the Feds in. Good on Cook.
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Already :smh:

Maxxam said:
Their homies at the NSA probably can... most security experts believe the NSA has zero day exploits but the feds want to do this the legal way to set precedent
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Damn! That's what they are doing. They are making phones a national security risk. On some loose lips sink ships propaganda.
 
Mello Mello said:
Yeah you right that devil KNOWS what he's is doing.
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There's only so many operating systems he can pimp. It's all about data farming and information swapping going forward. And he's monetizing both already. So of course he wants to convince the public their information isn't worth a fuck.

Meanwhile Apple is a product and lifestyle brand, and they're selling actual goods and the promise of privacy to consumers and will be doing so for the foreseeable future... So they got to hold the line. Their reputation and brand depends on it.
 
I am not trying to call people dumb or anything like that but can someone answer this question?


The government has sent people to the moon, has satellites so advanced that they can read the numbers off of a dime from space, can see a planet and a star from millions of light years away, detect a gravitational ripple in space. Technology so advanced that they are able to Create cloaking devices that bend light making them invisible, spy equipment so advanced that they can hear and watch what is going on on the other side of the world. We are not even talking about the classified tech.


So do yall really believe that the government can do all of that but not crack a simple iPhone?


To me the government is just being nice and following do process by asking
 
Varis said:
i gave the FBI too much credit i thought they could hack anything.....or maybe they are just trying to fool us into thinking they cant
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They can, but if they come out and say "We hacked this guy's phone and found ...." Then they've openly violated the 4th amendment. Get permission from Apple and now everything they've already done to this and every other phone is nice and legal.

I'm no lawyer so I could be wrong, but I do remember hearing the supreme court ruling that the police cannot force a person to unlock a smart phone code without a warrant.
 
SIDESHOW said:
What a piece of shit.

Figures he'd back them, considering the type of OS Windows 10 is....
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The federal government buys millions of licenses for Windows. Just recently the Pentagon is upgrading all its computers to Windows 10. With that kind of power, you see why he supports the FBI.

Unfortunately, it looks like MS supports legal and illegal requests for information from the government. I have had problems with stifling surveillance of my computers to the point of being absolutely unusable.

Junk
 
Amajorfucup said:
There's only so many operating systems he can pimp. It's all about data farming and information swapping going forward. And he's monetizing both already. So of course he wants to convince the public their information isn't worth a fuck.

Meanwhile Apple is a product and lifestyle brand, and they're selling actual goods and the promise of privacy to consumers and will be doing so for the foreseeable future... So they got to hold the line. Their reputation and brand depends on it.
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gates is on some bullshit.

but yall crazy if you don't think that apple, google and m$ is monetizing your data.
 
I think most people think the Iphone is owned by the terrorist but it's actually the terrorist's work phone owned by the company he shot up. You cannot break the encryption before it resets. It's mathematically impossible. But all encryption has a key. Apple is lying for the free promotion. Wants us to think that shit is secure but its not.
 
BrownTurd said:
I am not trying to call people dumb or anything like that but can someone answer this question?


The government has sent people to the moon, has satellites so advanced that they can read the numbers off of a dime from space, can see a planet and a star from millions of light years away, detect a gravitational ripple in space. Technology so advanced that they are able to Create cloaking devices that bend light making them invisible, spy equipment so advanced that they can hear and watch what is going on on the other side of the world. We are not even talking about the classified tech.


So do yall really believe that the government can do all of that but not crack a simple iPhone?


To me the government is just being nice and following do process by asking
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Bro you "THINK" they have all that stuff, but they don't.
 
donwuan said:
I think most people think the Iphone is owned by the terrorist but it's actually the terrorist's work phone owned by the company he shot up. You cannot break the encryption before it resets. It's mathematically impossible. But all encryption has a key. Apple is lying for the free promotion. Wants us to think that shit is secure but its not.
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128 bit key, good luck
 
The problem is probably the passcode self-destruct. They can't brute force the passcode which will work if they could do it. What will happen if the FBI gets its way, is a phone with a version of IOS without the passcode restrictions. They get the phone and give it to the NSA. The NSA reverse engineers the OS and now they have a tool which will allow them to brute force into any IOS device. If they start with this phone, there's nothing that will stop the Justice Department from requesting it every time they get a suspect's iPhone. It's not the same as bank records or phone records. We're talking about breaking into personal devices for information. Besides, there's no reason to think that they'll get anything anyway since they probably used third party apps that have encryption anyway.

If they need contact information, just hack into the icloud account. It's not like we haven't seen a lot of that over the last couple of years.
 

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