I’m good wit that
Big Daddy Kane: “Eminem is the Kobe of hip-hop”
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Black thought roasted him with that funk flex freestyle
I watched the video. Fuck BDK's concept... he buggin. Eminem is the Larry Bird of rap.
Yeah I mean I get it but he ain’t the Vanilla Ice white rapper. And to me he always stayed true to himself. He didn’t even try to be something he’s not.
I like the LB comparison... BDK is my guy and in my top 5 and in his small defense he was trying to think quick on his feet about comparing in the generation ahead of his...not overall. But a true death comparison impact to kobe to rapper would be 2pac dying without finishing possibly a monumental impact in entertainment for them both.
Im okay with Em getting props from rap legends... he's respected hip hop art and has gave many props to legends like kane jz and ll etc and his fk trump message/song in prime time made more impact voice about that pos than all hip hop new or old school did combined...snoop song with a distance 2nd... of course he could get away with it keeping his career a lot easier.
Im not a em fan as i dug only a 3 or 4 of songs as i dig him like the some 3 or 4 hits i dug with the beasie boys in that generation right before the pac, jz, nas, biggie era.
Ok i don't like all this Kane slander
He's entitled to his opinion
I don't agree
But off the top without thinking he plucked out a name based more on personality
Lets play devil advocate no pun intended
Kobe spent YEARS trying to fit in and be accepted
He was out of his element from jump
Rich parents but not THAT rich, the Italian upbringing, just always being different and feeling like an outsider, the ego, once he "found" himself always feeling he has to prove hinself over and over ,always competing with the greats
So yeah off top spur of the moment
I could SEE the Eminem comparison
Its not completely outlandish
And to be fair? i don't think a perfect comparison exists.
Instinctively i said Wayne but I'm sure someone could convince me its LL, TI, Andre 3000 etc.
Cause then we gotta really real discussion
Woo boy is Drake = Lebron?
He's entitled to his opinion
I don't agree
But off the top without thinking he plucked out a name based more on personality
Lets play devil advocate no pun intended
Kobe spent YEARS trying to fit in and be accepted
He was out of his element from jump
Rich parents but not THAT rich, the Italian upbringing, just always being different and feeling like an outsider, the ego, once he "found" himself always feeling he has to prove hinself over and over ,always competing with the greats
So yeah off top spur of the moment
I could SEE the Eminem comparison
Its not completely outlandish
And to be fair? i don't think a perfect comparison exists.
Instinctively i said Wayne but I'm sure someone could convince me its LL, TI, Andre 3000 etc.
Cause then we gotta really real discussion
Woo boy is Drake = Lebron?
I agree 100%, but you know people are colorstruck af in 2020. “If he ain’t skinfolk, he ain’t kinfolk.”
Stop with this white shit. Eminem does not have ONE certified classic album from beginning to end. Some all time singles, a great movie and yeah he can spit, but this shit has nothing to do with him being white.
He doesn't have an album better than the best from Big Daddy, Rakim, KRS One, Tupac, Biggie, Jay Z, Scarface, Kendrick, LL Cool J, Nas, Busta, shit and that is just off top for non group artists.
How in the fuck is he Kobe?
Yall really listening to a whole Eminem album, or is this just about Lose Yourself and Stan on repeat?
He doesn't have an album better than the best from Big Daddy, Rakim, KRS One, Tupac, Biggie, Jay Z, Scarface, Kendrick, LL Cool J, Nas, Busta, shit and that is just off top for non group artists.
How in the fuck is he Kobe?
Yall really listening to a whole Eminem album, or is this just about Lose Yourself and Stan on repeat?
Give me examples of lyricism please. Not wordplay, actual lyrics that make you go, "damn, now that was some real shit he said that I can relate/apply to my own life. " not some clown chuckle shit.
So Redman isnt lyrical in your opinion
he's in the boat with em, I actually like them both for what they are. Rap jesters. No gotcha's Buddy
I'm a Kobe stan and have been for over 15 years. There has obviously been a lot of revisionist history in the past month but part of the reason I compared him to Canibus in 2015 is that they were both incredibly driven greats who were not getting their proper respect and who came up short in their quest to be the greatest.
Yes, Kobe was more respected than Canibus, but as I sat amazed watching Canibus left off of top 50 lists, I felt the same way watching Kobe get left off of top 10 and top 15 lists. What is completely unworkable about your counter that "Eminem is the Larry Bird of rap" is that Larry Bird was getting more respect than Kobe from almost EVERYBODY before Kobe died, was included & higher on the majority of lists. Kobe wanted to be Jordan but the conversation became Jordan vs LeBron and he was just not mentioned like he didn't exist.
In rap, Eminem is the best selling ever with every album since his first going #1, with unparalleled critical acclaim from Stan to 8 mile and literal decades at the top. Bird was hobbled by a bad back and had a relatively short career, never really being thought of as the best and peaking as thought of in tandem with Magic as a precursor to Jordan. All Eminem has in common with Larry Bird is skin color and the fact that some people who don't appreciate the game want to pretend he has no place in it or it's history, so it isn't a good analogy IMO, way too surface-level.
All these Golden Era 5%er rappers tripping over themselves to crown the hip hop Elvis. 
this he's wack !
Now, I see what the problem is... you don't actually have a full knowledge nor respect for Larry Legend. So, you actually think it's a slight to say Eminem is Larry, not Kobe. Wrong. There's nothing Kobe about Eminem's career, but the Bird comparison fits like a glove. Which you'll never be able to see if you stay married to BDK's flawed comparison.
this...
you’re such afaggit. You wonder why we all hate your guts.
While speaking to HipHopDX, Kane expanded on his comment and threw a few other names in the ring.
“We’re in that era where people are going to believe what they want to believe because they just need something to debate about,” Kane told DX. “Dude said he feels I’m the Dr. J of Hip Hop and said JAY-Z is the Jordan of Hip Hop, so to ask me who was the Kobe of Hip Hop, basically what he meant was, of my era, I was that dude. And in the next era, Jordan was that dude so in the next era, Kobe was that dude.
“That era would be the era after JAY-Z, Nas, Biggie, Tupac, so that would be, I assume, Eminem, Jadakiss, Fabolous and Ludacris, maybe. So I guess those would be the elites you would consider the next Kobe ’cause that’s the next era. It would be one of them. I guess lyrically, my favorites would be Em, Jada and Fabolous. I don’t really know where he [the interviewer] was going with it — like are you saying as far as what I do? ‘Cause for me it was more than lyrical. So if you basing it just on lyrics, I would probably go with Em. If you’re basing it on the next Kane, then I would probably go with Fabolous.”
Statistically, Eminem and Bryant shined in their respective fields. Bryant played with the L.A. Lakers for 20 years and is widely considered one of the greatest NBA players of all time. He made 18 All-Star teams, was a first-round pick in the 1996 draft and won five NBA championships, two NBA Finals MVPs and was the league MVP in 2008.
Eminem, on the other hand, is one of the best-selling music artists of all time. The Marshall Mathers LP, The Eminem Show, the 8 Mile single “Lose Yourself,” “Recovery‘s Love The Way You Lie” featuring Rihanna and 2010’s “Not Afraid” are all certified Diamond by the RIAA.
“Eminem is a major star,” Kane said. “Em and JAY-Z have achieved things that I have never came close to achieving in my life. They are both major stars in Hip Hop. And to top it off, they are both very lyrical. That’s where I was coming from.”
Big Daddy Expands On His Eminem Is 'The Kobe Bryant Of Hip Hop' Comment
#DXCLUSIVE: The legendary MC also puts Jadakiss, Fabolous and Ludacris in that category.
What did he say?
What happened in the bet cypher ?
The funk flex freestyle
I'm saying when they were in the same cypher em got him. And I'm a bigger black thought fan than eminem. Illadelph halflife is one of my all time favorite albums.
listening to that cypher , i believe em had that weakest bars out of thought and mos def. the fans were yelling at everything em said.
Em is the Elvis of rap,most of his fans buy because he's white and they appreciate that "I don't give a fuck attitude" but after is first album black folks stopped paying attention to Em.He could have all of the features he wants and still get no urban play no one bumping his music out of car systems in the inner city.
Kane said what is politically correct but deep down inside he feels Em couldn't fuck with him lyrically today or yesterday as he should.
Who was a D12 fan?riiight that shit was as corny as Insane Clown Posse who you might be a fan of but at some point you have to stop painting your face and start giving a fuck about something or someone.
Kane said what is politically correct but deep down inside he feels Em couldn't fuck with him lyrically today or yesterday as he should.
Who was a D12 fan?riiight that shit was as corny as Insane Clown Posse who you might be a fan of but at some point you have to stop painting your face and start giving a fuck about something or someone.
Well, whatever. It's his opinion, at the moment.
Personally I think these guys' brains have gotten soft or something.
Personally I think these guys' brains have gotten soft or something.
Word, I never been nowhere other than with my white friends & heard someone say “Yo play that Eminem” , not never ... Never been in the club going dumb to Eminem
For the record here in defense of Kane. See a lot of yall may be holding Kobe as #2 or #3 ever. There are arguments to that. I'm not here to debate that. Kane said about Kobe "...I probably would have had him in my top five...". Saying that means you can be anywhere from #1-#5 but to use the word probably leans toward him being towards the end. So for someone to say Eminem is like #4 or #5 in Hip Hip does not sound out there. They can have there argument for it... I'll leave it at that...
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