Looks like they got Perez's car fixed. Hopefully they can get Raikonnen car fixed too. Would be some good action at the back.
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Raikkonen back in too.
This race is fucking bananas!
Botha's gets Driver of the Day IMO, for that finish. Lance would've got it if he held on, still a crazy result for him being on podium. Don't know what happened with Lewis, he should've been able to get Vettel.
Should have banned from one race.
The 29-year-old was also given three penalty points on his licence, taking him up to nine. If a driver receives 12 in a 12-month period, it triggers an automatic race ban.
If he wants to prove he's a man, we should do it out of the car face-to-face.
Lewis Hamilton on Sebastian Vettel
If Vettel receives three penalty points at the next race in Austria on 9 July, he would face a race ban. However, two points will drop off after the British Grand Prix on 16 July as he was punished for forcing Felipe Massa off the track at Silverstone last year.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40400301
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The 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix was arguably Formula One’s most exciting race so far this year. Safety Cars, a red flag, some bad manners and some bad luck all gave way to an unlikely winner. But the story of the race still continues.
What Happened?
The controversy stems from Sebastian Vettel’s antics during one of the Safety Car periods. Thinking Lewis Hamilton had brake-checked him before the restart, Vettel angrily pulled alongside Hamilton and drove directly into the side of his title rival.
This move prompted the stewards to dish out a 10-second stop-go penalty for Vettel. But if you look at the race results, you might wonder why Vettel, even after breaking the rules, still finished ahead of Hamilton. As it turned out, Lady Luck was not on Hamilton’s side. The Mercedes driver was forced to pit from a comfortable lead because his head rest had come loose. This dropped Hamilton down the order where he finished 5th behind Vettel in 4th. Thus, Vettel actually extended his Championship lead over Hamilton.
Why Punish Him Twice?
Sebastian gaining an advantage even though he misbehaved could be the reason the FIA have launched a probe into his conduct. Vettel broke the rules but still finished ahead of the innocent party he interfered with. Post-race telemetry showed that Hamilton kept a consistent speed before the restart and did not brake-check Vettel. This would make arguing Vettel’s case rather difficult. However, he could argue that he made an error in judgement and took his penalty during the race respectfully.
Another reason could be the FIA doesn’t want Vettel’s actions to reflect overall bad sportsmanship in the sport and to promote fair racing. The events of the Azerbaijan Grand Prix certainly don’t project a strong image to those looking to get into motor sport.
After the race, Vettel vehemently denied any wrong doing. He refused to look at video footage showing the incident and claimed innocence. The FIA’s investigation could bring serious consequence
Why Punish Him Twice?
Sebastian gaining an advantage even though he misbehaved could be the reason the FIA have launched a probe into his conduct. Vettel broke the rules but still finished ahead of the innocent party he interfered with. Post-race telemetry showed that Hamilton kept a consistent speed before the restart and did not brake-check Vettel. This would make arguing Vettel’s case rather difficult. However, he could argue that he made an error in judgement and took his penalty during the race respectfully.
Another reason could be the FIA doesn’t want Vettel’s actions to reflect overall bad sportsmanship in the sport and to promote fair racing. The events of the Azerbaijan Grand Prix certainly don’t project a strong image to those looking to get into motor sport.
After the race, Vettel vehemently denied any wrong doing. He refused to look at video footage showing the incident and claimed innocence. The FIA’s investigation could bring serious consequence
The Plot Thickens
It’s just another chapter in the rivalry between two of the greatest drivers the sport has seen. The talking was done on the track at the Spanish Grand Prix as the drivers battled wheel-to-wheel. It seems now though, the action is happening both on the tarmac and off it.
Many great rivalries have occurred in Formula One. Prost versus Senna. Schumacher versus Hill. The list goes on. Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton’s rivalry is one the fans have been waiting to see for a while. Now we’re experiencing it and it’s just starting to get interesting.
What Happened?
The controversy stems from Sebastian Vettel’s antics during one of the Safety Car periods. Thinking Lewis Hamilton had brake-checked him before the restart, Vettel angrily pulled alongside Hamilton and drove directly into the side of his title rival.
This move prompted the stewards to dish out a 10-second stop-go penalty for Vettel. But if you look at the race results, you might wonder why Vettel, even after breaking the rules, still finished ahead of Hamilton. As it turned out, Lady Luck was not on Hamilton’s side. The Mercedes driver was forced to pit from a comfortable lead because his head rest had come loose. This dropped Hamilton down the order where he finished 5th behind Vettel in 4th. Thus, Vettel actually extended his Championship lead over Hamilton.
Why Punish Him Twice?
Sebastian gaining an advantage even though he misbehaved could be the reason the FIA have launched a probe into his conduct. Vettel broke the rules but still finished ahead of the innocent party he interfered with. Post-race telemetry showed that Hamilton kept a consistent speed before the restart and did not brake-check Vettel. This would make arguing Vettel’s case rather difficult. However, he could argue that he made an error in judgement and took his penalty during the race respectfully.
Another reason could be the FIA doesn’t want Vettel’s actions to reflect overall bad sportsmanship in the sport and to promote fair racing. The events of the Azerbaijan Grand Prix certainly don’t project a strong image to those looking to get into motor sport.
After the race, Vettel vehemently denied any wrong doing. He refused to look at video footage showing the incident and claimed innocence. The FIA’s investigation could bring serious consequence
Why Punish Him Twice?
Sebastian gaining an advantage even though he misbehaved could be the reason the FIA have launched a probe into his conduct. Vettel broke the rules but still finished ahead of the innocent party he interfered with. Post-race telemetry showed that Hamilton kept a consistent speed before the restart and did not brake-check Vettel. This would make arguing Vettel’s case rather difficult. However, he could argue that he made an error in judgement and took his penalty during the race respectfully.
Another reason could be the FIA doesn’t want Vettel’s actions to reflect overall bad sportsmanship in the sport and to promote fair racing. The events of the Azerbaijan Grand Prix certainly don’t project a strong image to those looking to get into motor sport.
After the race, Vettel vehemently denied any wrong doing. He refused to look at video footage showing the incident and claimed innocence. The FIA’s investigation could bring serious consequence
The Plot Thickens
It’s just another chapter in the rivalry between two of the greatest drivers the sport has seen. The talking was done on the track at the Spanish Grand Prix as the drivers battled wheel-to-wheel. It seems now though, the action is happening both on the tarmac and off it.
Many great rivalries have occurred in Formula One. Prost versus Senna. Schumacher versus Hill. The list goes on. Sebastian Vettel and Lewis Hamilton’s rivalry is one the fans have been waiting to see for a while. Now we’re experiencing it and it’s just starting to get interesting.
Red Bull Ring
First Race
1970 (1997) (2014)
Laps
71
Track Length
4.318 km (2.683 mi)
Race Length
306.452 km
Lap Record
1:08.337, Michael Schumacher, Ferrari (2003)
Tyre Allocation
Ultra-Soft, Super-Soft, Soft
2016 Result
1: Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)
2: Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
3: Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari)2: Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
Lewis Hamilton is set to take a five-place grid penalty for Sunday's race at Austria's Red Bull Ring circuit.
Mercedes were forced to change the Briton's gearbox ahead of the event - and, as the previous unit had not completed six consecutive events, Mercedes and Hamilton will inevitably be penalised.
An official report from FIA Formula One Technical Delegate Jo Baeur read: "[Hamilton] did finish the last race in Baku and this gearbox change was before the six consecutive events expired.
"As this is not in compliance with article 23.5a of the 2017 Formula 1 sporting regulations, I am referring this matter to the stewards for their consideration.
"The team informed the technical delegate about the gearbox change on Tuesday, 04th July 2017, at 11:29 hours."
Hamilton, quickest in both sessions on Friday, has claimed pole for the past two years in Austria, and has also started from the front for three of the last four Grands Prix of 2017.
Despite that run he still trails Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel - with whom he clashed behind the safety car in Azerbaijan last race - by 14 points in the championship.
Mercedes were forced to change the Briton's gearbox ahead of the event - and, as the previous unit had not completed six consecutive events, Mercedes and Hamilton will inevitably be penalised.
An official report from FIA Formula One Technical Delegate Jo Baeur read: "[Hamilton] did finish the last race in Baku and this gearbox change was before the six consecutive events expired.
"As this is not in compliance with article 23.5a of the 2017 Formula 1 sporting regulations, I am referring this matter to the stewards for their consideration.
"The team informed the technical delegate about the gearbox change on Tuesday, 04th July 2017, at 11:29 hours."
Hamilton, quickest in both sessions on Friday, has claimed pole for the past two years in Austria, and has also started from the front for three of the last four Grands Prix of 2017.
Despite that run he still trails Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel - with whom he clashed behind the safety car in Azerbaijan last race - by 14 points in the championship.
Hamilton starts in 8th position due to penalty... Let's hope he gets a good start. That will be crucial.
Silverstone Circuit
First Race
1950
Laps
52
Circuit Length
5.891km (3.660mi)
Race Length
306.198km (190.263mi)
Lap Record
1:33.401, Mark Webber (Red Bull - Renault) 2013
Qualifying Lap Record
1:29.287, Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) 2016
2016 Results
1: Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)
2: Max Verstappen (Red Bull - Renault)
3: Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)
First Race
1950
Laps
52
Circuit Length
5.891km (3.660mi)
Race Length
306.198km (190.263mi)
Lap Record
1:33.401, Mark Webber (Red Bull - Renault) 2013
Qualifying Lap Record
1:29.287, Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) 2016
2016 Results
1: Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)
2: Max Verstappen (Red Bull - Renault)
3: Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)
British Grand Prix future uncertain beyond 2019 as Silverstone activates break clause
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40566434
The future of the British Grand Prix has been left uncertain after Silverstone's owner confirmed it has activated a break clause to cease hosting the race after 2019. Silverstone has been home to the race every year since 1987.
However, the British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC), which owns the circuit, says it cannot afford to host the race unless a new deal is agreed. "We have reached the tipping point," said BRDC chairman John Grant.
"We can no longer let our passion for the sport rule our heads. We sustained losses of £2.8m in 2015 and £4.8m in 2016, and we expect to lose a similar amount this year.
"Our hope is that an agreement can still be reached, so that we can ensure a sustainable and financially viable future for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone for many years to come."
Silverstone hosted the first Formula 1 race in 1950. It then shared hosting the British Grand Prix with Brands Hatch and Aintree before becoming its permanent home 30 years ago.
Unlike many other tracks on the F1 calendar, Silverstone receives no government backing.
Formula 1 owner Liberty Media said it regrets the BRDC's decision and its timing.
"The week leading up to the British Grand Prix should be a week of great celebration for F1 and Silverstone," a spokesman said.
"We deeply regret Silverstone has chosen instead to use this week to posture and position themselves and invoke a break clause that will take effect in three years' time.
"Our focus is still to preserve the British Grand Prix. We will carry on negotiating with the promoter in good faith and in private to reach a fair and equitable solution.
Analysis - is this the end of the British GP?
BBC Sport's chief F1 writer Andrew Benson:
Silverstone's decision to end its contract to hold the British Grand Prix after 2019 does not necessarily mean there will not be a British Grand Prix at Silverstone in 2020 and beyond.
If that sounds confusing, bear with me.
Silverstone signed a 17-year contract with former Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone back in 2009 that meant it had to pay £12m for the race in 2010. But the deal had a 5% annual escalator built into it, and a break clause after 2019.
The fee has now gone up sufficiently that Silverstone cannot continue to hold the race and break even, let alone make a profit. So it felt it had no choice but to exercise the get-out clause, which contractually needed to be done before this year's race.
But Silverstone still wants the British Grand Prix after that date, and Formula 1 still wants one, too. The rub, of course, is that the race does not necessarily have to be held at Silverstone.
F1's new chairman Chase Carey told BBC Sport this week that it is his "priority" for the event to stay at Silverstone but that there was "interest from other places, other UK options, that would have appeal".
It's not clear what these are, plural. But one of them is a much-rumoured potential street race somewhere in the east of London. Whether that is realistic is a different question.
For Silverstone to continue as host, F1 and the BRDC now have two years or so to try to hammer out a mutually satisfactory deal.
Realistically, this is the most likely option. But as Carey put it: "We are not there today."
Former world champion Nigel Mansell, who claimed three of his four British GP wins at Silverstone, believes it would be "a very sad day" if the circuit no longer hosted grand prix racing.
"Silverstone has the history of F1," the Briton told BBC Sport.
"They deserve to have the recognition for the historical value the circuit has, which has contributed to some incredible races.
"Hopefully the new F1 owners will review their thoughts and think there is a better value to that than throw it away."
http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/40566434
The future of the British Grand Prix has been left uncertain after Silverstone's owner confirmed it has activated a break clause to cease hosting the race after 2019. Silverstone has been home to the race every year since 1987.
However, the British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC), which owns the circuit, says it cannot afford to host the race unless a new deal is agreed. "We have reached the tipping point," said BRDC chairman John Grant.
"We can no longer let our passion for the sport rule our heads. We sustained losses of £2.8m in 2015 and £4.8m in 2016, and we expect to lose a similar amount this year.
"Our hope is that an agreement can still be reached, so that we can ensure a sustainable and financially viable future for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone for many years to come."
Silverstone hosted the first Formula 1 race in 1950. It then shared hosting the British Grand Prix with Brands Hatch and Aintree before becoming its permanent home 30 years ago.
Unlike many other tracks on the F1 calendar, Silverstone receives no government backing.
Formula 1 owner Liberty Media said it regrets the BRDC's decision and its timing.
"The week leading up to the British Grand Prix should be a week of great celebration for F1 and Silverstone," a spokesman said.
"We deeply regret Silverstone has chosen instead to use this week to posture and position themselves and invoke a break clause that will take effect in three years' time.
"Our focus is still to preserve the British Grand Prix. We will carry on negotiating with the promoter in good faith and in private to reach a fair and equitable solution.
Analysis - is this the end of the British GP?
BBC Sport's chief F1 writer Andrew Benson:
Silverstone's decision to end its contract to hold the British Grand Prix after 2019 does not necessarily mean there will not be a British Grand Prix at Silverstone in 2020 and beyond.
If that sounds confusing, bear with me.
Silverstone signed a 17-year contract with former Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone back in 2009 that meant it had to pay £12m for the race in 2010. But the deal had a 5% annual escalator built into it, and a break clause after 2019.
The fee has now gone up sufficiently that Silverstone cannot continue to hold the race and break even, let alone make a profit. So it felt it had no choice but to exercise the get-out clause, which contractually needed to be done before this year's race.
But Silverstone still wants the British Grand Prix after that date, and Formula 1 still wants one, too. The rub, of course, is that the race does not necessarily have to be held at Silverstone.
F1's new chairman Chase Carey told BBC Sport this week that it is his "priority" for the event to stay at Silverstone but that there was "interest from other places, other UK options, that would have appeal".
It's not clear what these are, plural. But one of them is a much-rumoured potential street race somewhere in the east of London. Whether that is realistic is a different question.
For Silverstone to continue as host, F1 and the BRDC now have two years or so to try to hammer out a mutually satisfactory deal.
Realistically, this is the most likely option. But as Carey put it: "We are not there today."
Former world champion Nigel Mansell, who claimed three of his four British GP wins at Silverstone, believes it would be "a very sad day" if the circuit no longer hosted grand prix racing.
"Silverstone has the history of F1," the Briton told BBC Sport.
"They deserve to have the recognition for the historical value the circuit has, which has contributed to some incredible races.
"Hopefully the new F1 owners will review their thoughts and think there is a better value to that than throw it away."
WTF is up with Mercedes gearboxes, first Ham and now Bottas.
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