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Fucking giants fucked up 2 of my $1 bets tonight.. bastards won and fucked up a $2100 bet and a 375 bet.. $2 would’ve won me basically $2500 and the giants fucked it all up
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Yankees gonna fuck around and become a wild card..rays only 4 games behind.. yanks went from will they break the single season winning record to will these nigs lose first place in their division.. like I told you playa my boy was talking that shit again and niggadamaus put thst hex on the yanks again hehehe..last yr he was talking shit about my braves talking about they weren’t even going to make it to the playoffs ( we know what end up happening hehehe) and the yanks missed the playoffs.. will niggadamaus strike again heheheLatest on Yankees’ Andrew Benintendi injury
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Over half of minor leaguers support unionization
More than 50% of minor league players support unionizing, paving the way for players to organize and join the Major League Baseball Players Association, the union said Tuesday.
Majority of minor league baseball players vote to support union, paving way for MLBPA membership
More than 50% of minor league players have voted to support unionizing, paving the way for players to organize and join the Major League Baseball Players Association, the union announced Tuesday.
In a letter sent to MLB on Tuesday morning, the union said it asked for voluntary recognition from the league, in which MLB would acknowledge that a majority of minor league players are seeking to unionize and formally accept the MLBPA as their bargaining representative.
"Minor league players have made it unmistakably clear they want the MLBPA to represent them and are ready to begin collective bargaining in order to positively affect the upcoming season," MLBPA executive directory Tony Clark said in a statement.
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If the league chooses not to recognize by a date specified in the letter, the MLBPA could hold a vote through the National Labor Relations Board in which more than 50% of eligible players would need to vote in favor of unionization.
Ten days after the MLBPA sent out union authorization cards to minor league players, the percentage returned far exceeded the threshold of 30% necessary for the next step in potential unionization. Minor league players have said higher wages and better working conditions are among their top priorities.
"I definitely feel scared, but this feels like the right thing to do. We're all jacked up," said Joe Hudson, a catcher at Triple-A Durham in the Tampa Bay Rays organization. "There's some bewildered teammates who can't believe this is actually happening. Everyone is just raving with positivity, moving forward. I haven't come across one guy who's against this right now. It's really a snowball effect here."
After decades of representing only players on major league teams' 40-man rosters, the MLBPA is seeking to grow its rank-and-file more than fourfold. The union would represent more than 5,000 players on domestic rosters and has suggested it would later consider doing the same for players on Dominican Summer League teams and at teams' Dominican complexes.
The MLBPA has bolstered its nascent minor league operation by hiring employees from Advocates for Minor Leaguers, a group that helped organize the players who distributed the authorization cards and has fought for improvements, including higher pay and housing in home cities, to which MLB acceded in recent years.
"People have been more open to talking about what's going on," said Connor Lunn, a Double-A pitcher with the St. Louis Cardinals organization. "Before, it was just the Advocates trying to spread the word and people were timid and scared to talk about the issues of what's going on, and now it seems like the players are talking about it more in the clubhouses or on the field. They're not as scared to confront the issue."
The issue of minor league pay has rocketed to the forefront of the sport in recent years. The vast majority of players currently receive between $400 and $700 a week and are paid only in-season. MLB in July agreed to pay $185 million to settle a federal class-action lawsuit filed by minor league players who sought pay after alleging minimum wage and overtime violations by teams. The Senate Judiciary Committee has said it intends to hold hearings on the treatment of minor league players and how the league's antitrust exemption affects them.
"We're seeing how things have worked over the past decades and how things are going to work in the future," said New York Mets shortstop Francisco Lindor, who is one of the eight members of the MLBPA's executive board. "We are headed in the right direction. When I was in the minor leagues, it was so much about forgetting about what you're getting paid, forget about the travel, just make it to the big leagues and play better. But also it's not the way to be.
"Right now, I feel like there's way more awareness in understanding that it's about having better sleep, better travel, better food, better paychecks help you perform at a higher level. I'm happy that we are working to unionize them, help them out. They are the future and that is the beginning of every baseball player and they are the future of every major league team. We are hoping to protect them."
ESPN's Joon Lee contributed to this report
Was a big fan from early 90s to early 2000s.. than stopped watching cause was just running around a lot.. but this sports betting pulled me back in this yr( even though I technically have yet to watch a game).
braves and Mets are officially tied for first place in their division.. oh oh do I smell new leader coming soon
Wish I could find his throw from last night to 3rd to stop an attempted steal... Maldy is a dawg back there! His placements are consistently accurate as fuck
Sidenote -
That intro for Diaz(Mets) is hands down the best walk out in baseball
And
Ohtani is the most exciting player to watch in baseball
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Kody Clemens got his first career strikeout against Shohei Ohtani last night & Shohei signed it for him
Homeboy hit me up last minute with suite level tickets to this game and couldn't go because of work...
Next time fuck work I'm cutting out and leaving
That fucker photo bombed me the entire time he was thereYeah man I know priorities are priorities, but suite tickets are also suite tickets
Luckily he will get some more before the season is over so I'll definitely be able to get out to a few games in the near future
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MLB to voluntarily recognize minor league players' unionization with MLBPA
Major League Baseball will voluntarily recognize minor league players' efforts to unionize with the MLB Players Association, commissioner Rob Manfred announced Friday.
The move by MLB would formally accept the MLBPA as minor league players' bargaining representative and helps to fast track the unionization effort.
It's also a key step that will lead to collective bargaining for minor leaguers. The union and MLB are working on an agreement on whom the bargaining unit will consist of and they hope to accomplish that by next week.
The MLBPA launched the unionization drive Aug. 28 and told MLB on Tuesday it had obtained signed authorization cards from 5,000 to 6,500 players with minor league contracts, which exceeds the 50% threshold required to show a majority interest in unionization. If MLB had declined to accept the union, the players' association's next step would have been to ask the National Labor Relations Board to conduct an authorization election.
"We, I believe, notified the MLBPA today that we're prepared to execute an agreement on voluntary recognition,'' Manfred said during a news conference to announce on-field rules changes for next season. "I think they're working on the language as we speak."
Both sides were exchanging language Friday. Players with Dominican Summer League contracts will not be included in the bargaining unit.
Players on 40-man rosters who are on option to the minor leagues have been represented by the union since 1981. The vast majority of minor leaguers, though, have not been previously represented by the union, which intends to form a separate bargaining unit with its own dues and governance structure, such as player representatives and an executive board.
MLB raised weekly minimum salaries for minor leaguers in 2021 to $400 at rookie and short-season levels, $500 at Class A, $600 at Double-A and $700 at Triple-A. For players on option, the minimum is $57,200 per season for a first big league contract and $114,100 for later big league contracts. In addition, MLB this year began requiring teams to provide housing for most minor leaguers.
MLB and union negotiators have had an acrimonious relationship in recent years, leading to several grievances that remain pending. Manfred and union head Tony Clark held separate news conferences to announce the agreement that ended the lockout in March, and union officials did not attend MLB's news conference Friday to announce the adoption of a pitch clock and defensive shift restrictions.
The five-year labor agreement expires Dec. 1, 2026, and MLB could seek a simultaneous expiration for a minor league deal. The minor leaguers' greatest leverage may be ahead of opening day, March 31 at Triple-A and April 6 at lower levels, when a strike could lead each team to keep its dozen or so unionized players on option at training complexes playing makeshift games.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
MLB to accept minor league players' unionization
MLB will voluntarily recognize minor league players' effort to unionize with the MLB Players Association.
MLB to voluntarily recognize minor league players' unionization with MLBPA
Major League Baseball will voluntarily recognize minor league players' efforts to unionize with the MLB Players Association, commissioner Rob Manfred announced Friday.
The move by MLB would formally accept the MLBPA as minor league players' bargaining representative and helps to fast track the unionization effort.
It's also a key step that will lead to collective bargaining for minor leaguers. The union and MLB are working on an agreement on whom the bargaining unit will consist of and they hope to accomplish that by next week.
The MLBPA launched the unionization drive Aug. 28 and told MLB on Tuesday it had obtained signed authorization cards from 5,000 to 6,500 players with minor league contracts, which exceeds the 50% threshold required to show a majority interest in unionization. If MLB had declined to accept the union, the players' association's next step would have been to ask the National Labor Relations Board to conduct an authorization election.
"We, I believe, notified the MLBPA today that we're prepared to execute an agreement on voluntary recognition,'' Manfred said during a news conference to announce on-field rules changes for next season. "I think they're working on the language as we speak."
Both sides were exchanging language Friday. Players with Dominican Summer League contracts will not be included in the bargaining unit.
Players on 40-man rosters who are on option to the minor leagues have been represented by the union since 1981. The vast majority of minor leaguers, though, have not been previously represented by the union, which intends to form a separate bargaining unit with its own dues and governance structure, such as player representatives and an executive board.
MLB raised weekly minimum salaries for minor leaguers in 2021 to $400 at rookie and short-season levels, $500 at Class A, $600 at Double-A and $700 at Triple-A. For players on option, the minimum is $57,200 per season for a first big league contract and $114,100 for later big league contracts. In addition, MLB this year began requiring teams to provide housing for most minor leaguers.
MLB and union negotiators have had an acrimonious relationship in recent years, leading to several grievances that remain pending. Manfred and union head Tony Clark held separate news conferences to announce the agreement that ended the lockout in March, and union officials did not attend MLB's news conference Friday to announce the adoption of a pitch clock and defensive shift restrictions.
The five-year labor agreement expires Dec. 1, 2026, and MLB could seek a simultaneous expiration for a minor league deal. The minor leaguers' greatest leverage may be ahead of opening day, March 31 at Triple-A and April 6 at lower levels, when a strike could lead each team to keep its dozen or so unionized players on option at training complexes playing makeshift games.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Major League Baseball passes significant rules changes including pitch clock, banning defensive shifts
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Max Kellerman shares his thoughts on MLB voting to implement a pitch clock and ban defensive shifts. (1:11)
Major League Baseball passed a sweeping set of rules changes it hopes will fundamentally overhaul the game, voting Friday to implement a pitch clock and ban defensive shifts in 2023 to hasten the game's pace and increase action.
The league's competition committee, composed of six ownership-level representatives, four players and one umpire, approved a pitch clock of 15 seconds with empty bases and 20 seconds with runners on, a defensive alignment that must include two fielders on each side of the second-base bag with both feet on the dirt as well as rules limiting pickoff moves and expanding the size of bases.
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The vote was not unanimous. Player representatives voted no on the shift and pitch-clock portions of changes.
Long tested in the minor leagues, the pitch clock, when strictly enforced, has significantly accelerated the speed of games. Minor league games this season have consistently clocked in at under 2 hours, 30 minutes -- a time seen by many as ideal -- and average game times have settled a little over it.
The rule is strict: The catcher must be in position when the timer hits 10 seconds, the hitter must be have both feet in the batter's box and be "alert" at the 8-second mark and the pitcher must start his "motion to pitch" by the expiration of the clock. A violation by the pitcher is an automatic ball. One by the hitter constitutes an automatic strike.
The banning of defensive shifts, which were once a fringe strategy but have become normal occurrence and the bane of left-handed hitters, is among the more extreme versions, preventing defensive player movement in multiple directions. With all four infielders needing to be on the dirt, the days of the four-outfielder setup will be over. Even more pertinent, shifting an infielder to play short right field, or simply overshifting three infielders to the right side of the second-base bag, will no longer be legal.
The position of defensive players can be reviewed -- and, if a defense is deemed illegal, the batting team can choose to accept the outcome of the play or take an automatic ball instead.
By limiting disengagements with the mound, either via pickoff move or step-off, the rules hold accountable pitchers who would otherwise have a pitch-clock workaround -- and are likely to significantly increase stolen bases, part of the action MLB intended to increase.
Pickoffs and step-offs reset the pitch clock, and the rules will limit pitchers to two for each plate appearance. (The number would reset if a runner advances.) A pitcher can make a third pickoff attempt, but if it's unsuccessful it will be a balk, allowing the runners to move up a base.
In a statement Friday, the Major League Baseball Players Association explained why players on the competition committee voted unanimously against the implementation of the pitch clock and banning of the shift.
"Player leaders from across the league were engaged in on-field rules negotiations through the Competition Committee, and they provided specific and actionable feedback on the changes proposed by the Commissioner's Office," the statement read. "Major League Baseball was unwilling to meaningfully address the areas of concern that Players raised, and, as a result, Players on the Competition Committee voted unanimously against the implementation of the rules covering defensive shifts and use of pitch timer."
Meanwhile, the bases will increase from 15 to 18 inches square, with expectations that the larger size reduces collisions around the bag along with slightly shortening the distance between bases.
Additionally, teams will be granted an extra mound visit in the ninth inning if they have exhausted their five allotted visits. If a team still has visits remaining, it does not receive an extra one.
Prior to 2022, rules changes had been solely the bailiwick of the league, which could implement on-field modifications a year after informing players it planned to alter a rule. As part of the new collective bargaining agreement between MLB and the MLB Players Association, the timeline for rule implementation was accelerated to 45 days and included the creation of the competition committee, in which players would participate.
Chicago Cubs outfielder Ian Happ said the players wanted to ease into the new rules rather than have sudden change.
"The players point of view is that we would rather move slowly and make sure the game looks the way the game looks now and keep making changes if we needed to, in a stricter direction, as opposed to going all the way strict and working backwards from there," Happ said.
Morgan Sword, executive vice president of baseball operations, said that was discussed.
"We did discuss transitional issues like that," Sword said. "The adjustment period is very fast for most players. It takes about a week feeling comfortable. And if you're going to do something like the clock, you want it to work. It was the committee's belief that jumping to the best form of this was the prudent move.
The committee includes Seattle owner John Stanton, St. Louis owner Bill DeWitt, Boston owner Tom Werner, San Francisco owner Greg Johnson, Colorado owner Dick Monfort, Toronto president Mark Shapiro, Tampa Bay pitcher Tyler Glasnow, St. Louis pitcher Jack Flaherty, Toronto superutilityman Whit Merrifield, San Francisco outfielder Austin Slater and umpire Bill Miller.
ESPN's Jesse Rogers contributed to this report.
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THOUGHTS?
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Max Kellerman shares his thoughts on MLB voting to implement a pitch clock and ban defensive shifts. (1:11)
Major League Baseball passed a sweeping set of rules changes it hopes will fundamentally overhaul the game, voting Friday to implement a pitch clock and ban defensive shifts in 2023 to hasten the game's pace and increase action.
The league's competition committee, composed of six ownership-level representatives, four players and one umpire, approved a pitch clock of 15 seconds with empty bases and 20 seconds with runners on, a defensive alignment that must include two fielders on each side of the second-base bag with both feet on the dirt as well as rules limiting pickoff moves and expanding the size of bases.
ADVERTISEMENT
The vote was not unanimous. Player representatives voted no on the shift and pitch-clock portions of changes.
Long tested in the minor leagues, the pitch clock, when strictly enforced, has significantly accelerated the speed of games. Minor league games this season have consistently clocked in at under 2 hours, 30 minutes -- a time seen by many as ideal -- and average game times have settled a little over it.
The rule is strict: The catcher must be in position when the timer hits 10 seconds, the hitter must be have both feet in the batter's box and be "alert" at the 8-second mark and the pitcher must start his "motion to pitch" by the expiration of the clock. A violation by the pitcher is an automatic ball. One by the hitter constitutes an automatic strike.
The banning of defensive shifts, which were once a fringe strategy but have become normal occurrence and the bane of left-handed hitters, is among the more extreme versions, preventing defensive player movement in multiple directions. With all four infielders needing to be on the dirt, the days of the four-outfielder setup will be over. Even more pertinent, shifting an infielder to play short right field, or simply overshifting three infielders to the right side of the second-base bag, will no longer be legal.
The position of defensive players can be reviewed -- and, if a defense is deemed illegal, the batting team can choose to accept the outcome of the play or take an automatic ball instead.
By limiting disengagements with the mound, either via pickoff move or step-off, the rules hold accountable pitchers who would otherwise have a pitch-clock workaround -- and are likely to significantly increase stolen bases, part of the action MLB intended to increase.
Pickoffs and step-offs reset the pitch clock, and the rules will limit pitchers to two for each plate appearance. (The number would reset if a runner advances.) A pitcher can make a third pickoff attempt, but if it's unsuccessful it will be a balk, allowing the runners to move up a base.
In a statement Friday, the Major League Baseball Players Association explained why players on the competition committee voted unanimously against the implementation of the pitch clock and banning of the shift.
"Player leaders from across the league were engaged in on-field rules negotiations through the Competition Committee, and they provided specific and actionable feedback on the changes proposed by the Commissioner's Office," the statement read. "Major League Baseball was unwilling to meaningfully address the areas of concern that Players raised, and, as a result, Players on the Competition Committee voted unanimously against the implementation of the rules covering defensive shifts and use of pitch timer."
Meanwhile, the bases will increase from 15 to 18 inches square, with expectations that the larger size reduces collisions around the bag along with slightly shortening the distance between bases.
Additionally, teams will be granted an extra mound visit in the ninth inning if they have exhausted their five allotted visits. If a team still has visits remaining, it does not receive an extra one.
Prior to 2022, rules changes had been solely the bailiwick of the league, which could implement on-field modifications a year after informing players it planned to alter a rule. As part of the new collective bargaining agreement between MLB and the MLB Players Association, the timeline for rule implementation was accelerated to 45 days and included the creation of the competition committee, in which players would participate.
Chicago Cubs outfielder Ian Happ said the players wanted to ease into the new rules rather than have sudden change.
"The players point of view is that we would rather move slowly and make sure the game looks the way the game looks now and keep making changes if we needed to, in a stricter direction, as opposed to going all the way strict and working backwards from there," Happ said.
Morgan Sword, executive vice president of baseball operations, said that was discussed.
"We did discuss transitional issues like that," Sword said. "The adjustment period is very fast for most players. It takes about a week feeling comfortable. And if you're going to do something like the clock, you want it to work. It was the committee's belief that jumping to the best form of this was the prudent move.
The committee includes Seattle owner John Stanton, St. Louis owner Bill DeWitt, Boston owner Tom Werner, San Francisco owner Greg Johnson, Colorado owner Dick Monfort, Toronto president Mark Shapiro, Tampa Bay pitcher Tyler Glasnow, St. Louis pitcher Jack Flaherty, Toronto superutilityman Whit Merrifield, San Francisco outfielder Austin Slater and umpire Bill Miller.
ESPN's Jesse Rogers contributed to this report.
@jack walsh13
@darth frosty
THOUGHTS?
I'm okay with this. Some pitchers take wayyyyy too long to throw the fuckin ball.
@jack walsh13
MLB to accept minor league players' unionization
MLB will voluntarily recognize minor league players' effort to unionize with the MLB Players Association.
MLB to voluntarily recognize minor league players' unionization with MLBPA
4:05 PM ET
- ESPN News Services
Major League Baseball will voluntarily recognize minor league players' efforts to unionize with the MLB Players Association, commissioner Rob Manfred announced Friday.
The move by MLB would formally accept the MLBPA as minor league players' bargaining representative and helps to fast track the unionization effort.
It's also a key step that will lead to collective bargaining for minor leaguers. The union and MLB are working on an agreement on whom the bargaining unit will consist of and they hope to accomplish that by next week.
The MLBPA launched the unionization drive Aug. 28 and told MLB on Tuesday it had obtained signed authorization cards from 5,000 to 6,500 players with minor league contracts, which exceeds the 50% threshold required to show a majority interest in unionization. If MLB had declined to accept the union, the players' association's next step would have been to ask the National Labor Relations Board to conduct an authorization election.
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"We, I believe, notified the MLBPA today that we're prepared to execute an agreement on voluntary recognition,'' Manfred said during a news conference to announce on-field rules changes for next season. "I think they're working on the language as we speak."
- MLB approves sweeping set of rules changes
2hJeff Passan- A 15-second pitch clock? The end of the shift? What you need to know about MLB's 2023 rule changes
6hJesse Rogers
Both sides were exchanging language Friday. Players with Dominican Summer League contracts will not be included in the bargaining unit.
Players on 40-man rosters who are on option to the minor leagues have been represented by the union since 1981. The vast majority of minor leaguers, though, have not been previously represented by the union, which intends to form a separate bargaining unit with its own dues and governance structure, such as player representatives and an executive board.
ADVERTISEMENT
MLB raised weekly minimum salaries for minor leaguers in 2021 to $400 at rookie and short-season levels, $500 at Class A, $600 at Double-A and $700 at Triple-A. For players on option, the minimum is $57,200 per season for a first big league contract and $114,100 for later big league contracts. In addition, MLB this year began requiring teams to provide housing for most minor leaguers.
MLB and union negotiators have had an acrimonious relationship in recent years, leading to several grievances that remain pending. Manfred and union head Tony Clark held separate news conferences to announce the agreement that ended the lockout in March, and union officials did not attend MLB's news conference Friday to announce the adoption of a pitch clock and defensive shift restrictions.
The five-year labor agreement expires Dec. 1, 2026, and MLB could seek a simultaneous expiration for a minor league deal. The minor leaguers' greatest leverage may be ahead of opening day, March 31 at Triple-A and April 6 at lower levels, when a strike could lead each team to keep its dozen or so unionized players on option at training complexes playing makeshift games.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
On the real this is needed because MLB was really screwing some of these minor leaguers with time of service manipulation and certain control/constraints that ruined some minor leaguers before their real career could begin.
Long time coming.@jack walsh13
MLB to accept minor league players' unionization
MLB will voluntarily recognize minor league players' effort to unionize with the MLB Players Association.
MLB to voluntarily recognize minor league players' unionization with MLBPA
4:05 PM ET
- ESPN News Services
Major League Baseball will voluntarily recognize minor league players' efforts to unionize with the MLB Players Association, commissioner Rob Manfred announced Friday.
The move by MLB would formally accept the MLBPA as minor league players' bargaining representative and helps to fast track the unionization effort.
It's also a key step that will lead to collective bargaining for minor leaguers. The union and MLB are working on an agreement on whom the bargaining unit will consist of and they hope to accomplish that by next week.
The MLBPA launched the unionization drive Aug. 28 and told MLB on Tuesday it had obtained signed authorization cards from 5,000 to 6,500 players with minor league contracts, which exceeds the 50% threshold required to show a majority interest in unionization. If MLB had declined to accept the union, the players' association's next step would have been to ask the National Labor Relations Board to conduct an authorization election.
EDITOR'S PICKS
"We, I believe, notified the MLBPA today that we're prepared to execute an agreement on voluntary recognition,'' Manfred said during a news conference to announce on-field rules changes for next season. "I think they're working on the language as we speak."
- MLB approves sweeping set of rules changes
2hJeff Passan- A 15-second pitch clock? The end of the shift? What you need to know about MLB's 2023 rule changes
6hJesse Rogers
Both sides were exchanging language Friday. Players with Dominican Summer League contracts will not be included in the bargaining unit.
Players on 40-man rosters who are on option to the minor leagues have been represented by the union since 1981. The vast majority of minor leaguers, though, have not been previously represented by the union, which intends to form a separate bargaining unit with its own dues and governance structure, such as player representatives and an executive board.
ADVERTISEMENT
MLB raised weekly minimum salaries for minor leaguers in 2021 to $400 at rookie and short-season levels, $500 at Class A, $600 at Double-A and $700 at Triple-A. For players on option, the minimum is $57,200 per season for a first big league contract and $114,100 for later big league contracts. In addition, MLB this year began requiring teams to provide housing for most minor leaguers.
MLB and union negotiators have had an acrimonious relationship in recent years, leading to several grievances that remain pending. Manfred and union head Tony Clark held separate news conferences to announce the agreement that ended the lockout in March, and union officials did not attend MLB's news conference Friday to announce the adoption of a pitch clock and defensive shift restrictions.
The five-year labor agreement expires Dec. 1, 2026, and MLB could seek a simultaneous expiration for a minor league deal. The minor leaguers' greatest leverage may be ahead of opening day, March 31 at Triple-A and April 6 at lower levels, when a strike could lead each team to keep its dozen or so unionized players on option at training complexes playing makeshift games.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
I'm okay with this. Some pitchers take wayyyyy too long to throw the fuckin ball.
Im a Yankee fan
but I could not take those pitching battles in the 2000s
ESPECIALLY against the Sox
each at bat went on for like 10 minutes plus
I UNDERSTAND the strategy of stretching those AB to the limit
but 4+ hour games
and almost NOTHING happening in the field.
leaving the batters box a dozen times to readjust
It was just TOO MUCH.
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