Bank loans to small business fall to 12-year low

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New federal data show that the number of small bank loans to business has fallen to the lowest point in more than a decade, cutting the flow of money to a sector that’s usually a job-creation powerhouse.

“It’s usually the smaller business that is more able to bounce back and take advantage of different opportunities faster than a middle-market company,” said Linda O’Connell, manager of small business research at Barlow Research Associates, a Minneapolis market research firm that focuses on the financial industries. “We haven’t seen that.”

An analysis of recently released Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. data by the Investigative Reporting Workshop shows that overall commercial and industrial lending by banks has increased for five straight quarters, but small loans to business of $1 million or less have been shrinking consistently since June 2008. As of Sept. 30, total outstanding loan volume was down 14.7 percent from its peak.

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The reduction of bank credit has had an even bigger impact on small business than it would on large business, which can borrow money through corporate bonds and “commercial paper.” In contrast, small businesses rely almost exclusively on credit provided from banks.

The current situation stands in stark contrast to the recession at the start of the decade, following the dot-com bust. Even though commercial lending dropped severely, small business lending kept chugging upward. In this recession, the number of individual small business loans has fallen even further. Banks reported having just 1.5 million of those loans outstanding on Sept. 30, the smallest number since 1999, according to the FDIC data. Bank regulators define small business lending as loans of $1 million or less, regardless of the size of the business.

The numbers are especially troubling because businesses with fewer than 500 employees created 65 percent of the jobs between 1993 and 2009, according to the Small Business Administration. But in a November survey conducted by the National Federation of Independent Businesses, a small business advocacy group, only 7 percent said the next three months would be a “good time to expand.”



There are many reasons that mom-and-pop businesses have been hit harder than international behemoths, economists say. Local businesses — especially service providers — can’t easily tap overseas markets, though small-scale manufacturing firms that can have done slightly better. And construction, which has traditionally driven the local recovery, is expected to linger in the doldrums for years, as it has since the real-estate bubble popped. Finally, the sheer length of the country’s economic woes has left small businesses with fewer reserves and hardly ready to jump back up, were conditions to start looking up.

Even successful businesses find it hard to get credit
With annual growth of around 40 percent, David Ehreth’s six-person sauerkraut and pickle business in Healdsburg, Calif., had a different problem — he couldn’t grow his “Alexander Valley Gourmet” and “Sonoma Brinery” brands fast enough without new machinery. “Everything we were doing, we were doing by hand,” he said.

Ehreth’s hardly a standard food entrepreneur. He started brining pickles full-time about six years ago, following a lucrative three-decade career in the technology sector. As a tech executive, Ehreth had overseen “hundreds of millions” in sales and peppers his conversation with phrases like “credit facility.”

He had reason to be optimistic about borrowing. “I am an individual of relatively high net worth with no debt of any sort. … When I approached the banks we had about four years’ worth of track record of steady growth of about 40 percent year over year.”

None of that mattered to the banks, though. “I was just flatly turned down without any discussion,” he said. ”Just about everyone I know in the food industry has given up on banks.”

Instead, Ehreth and his crew kept working by hand, even though that slowed their growth. Finally, he decided to sell a vacation home, even though the price he got for it wasn’t great. The investment in his business, he reasoned, was a sound one.

Banks’ unwillingness to lend was especially galling to Ehreth because jobs he would create — small-scale, blue-collar manufacturing that’s unlikely to go overseas — is the kind of job that’s most needed. “For those who are college educated, for those who have engineering degrees, there’s plenty of work. But for those who were working in factories, who saw their jobs sent overseas, people like myself create opportunities.”

Bank profits reach four-year high
Though small business has suffered, bank results continued to improve in the third quarter of this year. Profits rose to $35.3 billion, the best in more than four years. Most of the improvement came because troubled loans continue to decline. Meanwhile, lending rose for the third straight quarter, though it remains well below pre-recession levels, mostly because of real estate lending remains very sluggish. The number of banks with troubled assets greater than their capital and reserves also declined.

The small-scale, business lending slowdown is all the more remarkable given the federal government’s exceptional efforts at reversing it. The 2009 stimulus bill and 2010 Small Business Jobs Act cut fees and included “credit enhancements” that pumped up the Small Business Administration’s loan guarantee rate.

The last three months of 2010 was the biggest quarter in the agency’s history in terms of total new loan guarantee volume, said spokesman Mike Stamler. Many of those loans are for amounts greater than $1 million, and don’t show up in FDIC’s statistics. Yet bank lending during the SBA’s biggest quarter ever still declined.

The jobs bill set aside $30 billion to buy preferred stock in midsize banks, with those that actually increased small business lending eligible to lower the dividend rate paid back to the government. But just $4 billion of that money was actually lent out.

“The lending program through the federal government certainly didn’t do a whole lot. We’ve heard from many banks that we’ve talked to that they have enough money to lend, it’s just that there aren’t enough borrowers out there,” said Holly Wade, a senior policy analyst for the NFIB, the small business group.

Bankers say lending standards aren’t the issue, and point to research that backs them up. In 2011, 17 percent of businesses with sales between $100,000 and $10 million applied for additional credit, but of those, only 22 percent were denied, according to Barlow Research surveys.

Overall, the number of businesses that haven’t sought credit because they don’t think they’ll get it has been rising. In 2010, 15 percent of the small businesses that didn’t apply for credit did so because they thought they wouldn’t succeed, according to NFIB surveys. And 24 percent of small businesses that did seek additional credit reduced the amount they sought for fear of being turned down.

“The longer it goes on, the worse the financial condition for those that are just hanging on becomes, so they become less credit-worthy,” said Robert Seiwert, director of the American Bankers Association’s Center for Commercial Lending and Business Banking.

“Are credit standards tighter today than they were two years ago? Absolutely. But they should be because we’re operating in a different economic climate,” said the ABA’s Seiwert. “The business that was viable in the past may not be viable in the future.”

That’s hardly consolation to upstart entrepreneurs trying to launch. Michael Marquess, chief beer officer of Mother Road Brewing Co., in Flagstaff, Ariz., spent six months trying to get financing to open his brewery and taproom. “Borrowing has changed dramatically in the past five years from easy lending to extreme process,” he wrote in an e-mail.

“We had the plans in with the city. The contractor was on board. Everything was just waiting on that funding,” he said. But his SBA loan application for less than $300,000 fell apart, he said, because plans for a small craft brewery didn’t match up to numbers loan examiners expected for an established beer manufacturer.

Marquess’ story turned out well, though, thanks to the persistent bankers at the National Bank of Arizona, who he said helped him cobble together another application that was finally approved in June. Mother Road Brewing Co. opened last month and now has four employees. “We sold our first pallet of beer two weeks ago,” he said.
 
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There are many opportunities for buyers and brokers to acquire loans at a discount to the principal balance which may result in substantially better yields than originating a new loan. Loans can be purchased individually or in pools. Although the legal agreement differs for each, the basic process flow is the same whether you are buying or selling one or more loans. Buying and Selling loans is a great way for observers to get in the game and make some real money.


The statement above confirms why the US is becoming a second rate economy.
 
The statement above confirms why the US is becoming a second rate economy.

:yes:
I just couldn't put together a response it was so outrageous.


So we can add the Big Banks to the people who have done pretty well under Obama but would still prefer a Republican President so that they can do even better.
 
Are you suggesting the world should slow down so the US can catch up.


I'm not. I say the Big Banks should be less concerned with paying out dividends and bonuses and buying up smaller banks and more on lending money, the way they used to make money.
 
Originally Posted by nittie
Are you suggesting the world should slow down so the US can catch up.

I'm not. I say the Big Banks should be less concerned with paying out dividends and bonuses and buying up smaller banks and more on lending money, the way they used to make money.

If this is how you feel then you are suggesting the world should slow down so the US can catch up. Think for a second how much money could be made, how many jobs could be created if more U.S. citizens got into the lending game.
 
I say the Big Banks should be less concerned with paying out dividends and bonuses and buying up smaller banks and more on lending money, the way they used to make money.

Aaahh, one of the products of TARP. The "Too Big To Fail" have become even BIGGER.

There were people out there warning this would happen.
 
The FDIC is Killing Community Banks

I had a meeting with one of my community bankers yesterday, to discuss renewing some business lines of credit. If you thought I was unhappy about the lending situation I find myself in, you should have seen my banker. Depression, helplessness and exhaustion showed on his face. The FDIC, he says, is doing everything they can to drive community banks out of business.

Thought1, here are your jobs!

Community banks are the life-blood of small business, and small business employment is the life-blood of our economy. By showing such favoritism to large banks, our government is in essence undermining our fragile economy. 8,000 community banks serve 10,000,000 small businesses. What if each one hired one employee on average? Do the math.

Is this transfer from small banks to big, TARP banks done purposefully? Well, knowing the big banks we bailed out essentially wrote the rules for this administration’s FDIC, you can come up with the answer yourself.
 
Originally Posted by thoughtone
The FDIC has been tampered with and watered down by the supply siders and libertarians for 30 years. It served the country well from 1933 until 1981 when the Reagan administration decided that all government was bad.

Try again.

Originally Posted by thoughtone
I'm suggesting laws should be enforced.






The laws are being enforced it's just corporations find ways around existing laws thats what they do. Competition from average everyday people is the best way to counter them.
 
I'm suggesting laws should be enforced.

In all sincerity, you need to come to grips with the fact that Wall Street has been writing the laws for a long time. The greatest transfer of wealth is occurring right now bruh.......under Obama's watch.

Laws are being enforced, just the way Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan wrote them. Community banks are still failing left & right, check the FDIC's website. Most seem to think its because of the increased regulation found in the Dodd-Frank bill.
 
The laws are being enforced it's just corporations find ways around existing laws thats what they do. Competition from average everyday people is the best way to counter them.


That would be community banks, which wouldn't fail if the citizenry pulled their money from the Big Banks and put it in community banks.
 
That would be community banks, which wouldn't fail if the citizenry pulled their money from the Big Banks and put it in community banks.

What do you want. You say citizens should get involved but when I suggested earlier that citizens get in the lending game you were appauled, shocked, speechless.
 
What do you want. You say citizens should get involved but when I suggested earlier that citizens get in the lending game you were appauled, shocked, speechless.

What you said came off as random and hard to understand. There's already mechanisms in place to counter the Big Banks: community banks, credit unions.
 
What you said came off as random and hard to understand. There's already mechanisms in place to counter the Big Banks: community banks, credit unions.

Just a question I appreciate if you would answer honestly. If what I said came across as random and hard to understand what do you think of this.





:lol::lol::lol:

What a twit!


Is there any hope average citizens are going to change things back to the way they were. The world can't slow down we can't go back.
 
Is there any hope average citizens are going to change things back to the way they were. The world can't slow down we can't go back.


So why do the republicans prevent consumer watchdog legislation from passing and the corporatists want to return us back to the pre 1930s?
 
So why do the republicans prevent consumer watchdog legislation from passing and the corporatists want to return us back to the pre 1930s?

I Don't understand where you are going with this line of questioning. I will say reps want little regulation so they would be against watchdog legislation I don't know what the fuck corporatist are up to. To be honest I think it is more of a spiritual battle than a economic one. I think its the old Good vs Evil war and we are pawns. Theres a Old African proverb that says 'When Elephants fight the grass dies" I think thats whats happening now.
 
I Don't understand where you are going with this line of questioning. I will say reps want little regulation so they would be against watchdog legislation I don't know what the fuck corporatist are up to. To be honest I think it is more of a spiritual battle than a economic one. I think its the old Good vs Evil war and we are pawns. Theres a Old African proverb that says 'When Elephants fight the grass dies" I think thats whats happening now.

Interesting point..............what's good & who's evil?
 
I Don't understand where you are going with this line of questioning. I will say reps want little regulation so they would be against watchdog legislation I don't know what the fuck corporatist are up to. To be honest I think it is more of a spiritual battle than a economic one. I think its the old Good vs Evil war and we are pawns. Theres a Old African proverb that says 'When Elephants fight the grass dies" I think thats whats happening now.


Where I'm going is wanting direct an answer from you concerning my question. But you would rather go off on some gobbledygook as usual.
 
I Don't understand where you are going with this line of questioning. I will say reps want little regulation so they would be against watchdog legislation I don't know what the fuck corporatist are up to. To be honest I think it is more of a spiritual battle than a economic one. I think its the old Good vs Evil war and we are pawns. Theres a Old African proverb that says 'When Elephants fight the grass dies" I think thats whats happening now.

We're not the grass, we're the fucking elephant (excuse my language). If we take our money out of the Big Banks, they don't exist. If we don't vote for corporatist politicians, they don't get elected.

Just a question I appreciate if you would answer honestly. If what I said came across as random and hard to understand what do you think of this.








Is there any hope average citizens are going to change things back to the way they were. The world can't slow down we can't go back.


The world doesn't have to slow down, we have to stop thinking there are jobs in the shifting around of money while the rest of the world has already figured out that the money is in making and producing goods and services for the masses. We used to know that.
 
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