Avengers: Endgame (2019) Discussion Thread (SPOILERS)

So Thanos can throw a sword faster than Captain Marvel can fly? Really?
that shit bugged the fuck outta me when i saw her flying with the gauntlet toward the van.

yeah, i honestly think we’re finally start to see a decline in MCU storytelling now that Stan Lee is gone
 
A decline in storytelling? Don't make me laugh. Stan Lee? Seriously? Lazy story writing? Nope.

Folks need to realize that there is a TIME CONSTRAINT in movies. And these are characters that have huge and complex stories in the comics; some of them going back 40 years. Squeezing that into 2 or 3 hours without it being just a gabfest explaining everything is a minor miracle in itself.

Fifth time seeing Endgame and ~> ~> some of the best acting seen in the MCU thus far.
 
I saw the movie this past weekend.

I was not impressed and was disappointed

The only highlight I had was the scene with Scarlett Witch doing the hologram conference call.

Okeye was asked about the underwater earthquake and she told SW to forget about it. It was obvious they were referencing Prince Namor and Okeye knew it was out of them jurisdiction and none of their business.
 
Some of y’all need explosions and fights every ten fucking minutes.
Endgame and glass had similar movies... Lil action in the beginning, lots of talking in the middle, climatic ending, more talking with clues that could push future movies or that this situation was bigger than what you initially first thought... People was mad at glass... You should also be mad at end game
 
Endgame and glass had similar movies... Lil action in the beginning, lots of talking in the middle, climatic ending, more talking with clues that could push future movies or that this situation was bigger than what you initially first thought... People was mad at glass... You should also be mad at end game

Miss me with that shit. Glass was straight garbage beginning to end. Nothing to do with the structure. Dialogue is not a problem in movies. It's in the details. Lack thereof in glass. Endgame is a smarter movie than glass.
 
A decline in storytelling? Don't make me laugh. Stan Lee? Seriously? Lazy story writing? Nope.

Folks need to realize that there is a TIME CONSTRAINT in movies. And these are characters that have huge and complex stories in the comics; some of them going back 40 years. Squeezing that into 2 or 3 hours without it being just a gabfest explaining everything is a minor miracle in itself.

Fifth time seeing Endgame and ~> ~> some of the best acting seen in the MCU thus far.
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See a new behind-the-scenes image of Stan Lee's Avengers: Endgame cameo

Directors Joe and Anthony Russo released a new image of the comic book icon's retro guest spot

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It has been months since the world said goodbye to Stan Lee, but he still has a habit of turning up unexpectedly.

As the Avengers: Endgame spoiler embargo lifts, the filmmakers shared a new behind-the-scenes image of Lee shooting his final cameo.

Gathered around the comic book icon, who died at age 95 last November, are (from the left) screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, directors Joe and Anthony Russo, and executive producer Trinh Tran.

Here’s the story behind Lee’s hippy-dippy curtain call in Endgame

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“Make love, not war!”
It comes just as Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) and Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) venture back in time to the year 1970 for one more chance at nabbing the Tesseract and the Space Stone contained therein.

You hear the opening bars of Steppenwolf’s “Hey Lawdy Mama,” released that year, and see a white muscle car with a psychedelic bumper sticker declaring: ’Nuff said.

That was just one of Stan the Man’s catchphrases from his messages to readers of Marvel Comics.

We see Lee not as the spry old-timer, but as a grinning, bushy-haired hippie rambler, with a beautiful lady by his side and the gas pedal pressed to the floor.

Welcome to 49 years ago.

“It’s sort of the hippie era, and Stan’s cameoing as a hippie and it’s the free-love era,” Joe Russo explains. “He’s saying, ‘Make love, not war!’”

Visual-effects artists used the same technology they deployed to de-age Michael Douglas in 2015’s Ant-Man, strip decades off Kurt Russell in 2016’s Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, and briefly turn Downey into a teenager in 2016’s Captain America: Civil War.

They didn’t get into the specifics of this particular technique, but by scanning Lee’s face, they could Photoshop away the years and make him look half his age.

“It seemed like fun when we originally had the idea, before Stan passed,” Joe says. “Oh, what did Stan look like in the ’70s?”

As archival photos can tell you, he looks pretty much the same as the movie — like this:

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“It’s the last Stan Lee cameo that made it to film,” Joe says.

“Can you believe it?” Anthony adds, shaking his head.

That’s very specific phrasing, however, leaving the door open to hear Lee’s voice or see photos of him in future movies.

It’s likely Marvel Studios will continue to honor to the comic book scribe who helped create so much of its universe.
 
At that moment Tony knew why Strange did not tell him. He knew he was going to die.
Strange did tell him because he would've had second thoughts risking his life, thus blowing the only chance of winning. He told Capt he didn't want to die because of his daughter when he returned to the Avengers facility in Upstate NY. It was a spur of the moment act that strange saw in the future. Strange held up the one finger to let him know this is the only shot, so IronMan made the sacrifice.
 
I saw the movie this past weekend.

I was not impressed and was disappointed

The only highlight I had was the scene with Scarlett Witch doing the hologram conference call.

Okeye was asked about the underwater earthquake and she told SW to forget about it. It was obvious they were referencing Prince Namor and Okeye knew it was out of them jurisdiction and none of their business.

That was black widow not scarlett witch.
 
You are a bandwagon fan and you know nothing about Marvel.

Stan Lee's cameos and executive producer credit are "vanity" and homage to one of the creators.

He has no creative input whatsoever. NONE!

i do.



we had a few bad stories, but some of Endgame was flat out lazy
 
A decline in storytelling? Don't make me laugh. Stan Lee? Seriously? Lazy story writing? Nope.

Folks need to realize that there is a TIME CONSTRAINT in movies. And these are characters that have huge and complex stories in the comics; some of them going back 40 years. Squeezing that into 2 or 3 hours without it being just a gabfest explaining everything is a minor miracle in itself.

Fifth time seeing Endgame and ~> ~> some of the best acting seen in the MCU thus far.


This!
 
You are a bandwagon fan and you know nothing about Marvel.

Stan Lee's cameos and executive producer credit are "vanity" and homage to one of the creators.

He has no creative input whatsoever. NONE!

if that makes you feel better, sure.
 
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