Avengers: Age of Ultron movie review

So everyone is prepping for the fight and Scarlet Witch decides to stay in her mini dress and knee high boots and puts on a red jacket
 
anyone else think of this.
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when she "put him to sleep" the first time...:giggle:

suns goin down big guy...:lol:

:lol: yea especially when tony told wanda "she and banner playin' hide the zucchini"
 
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So everyone is prepping for the fight and Scarlet Witch decides to stay in her mini dress and knee high boots and puts on a red jacket


Her choices were kinda limited since she didn't have a Billionaire, Demi God or Secret Government Agency to give her any special gear. :dunno:

Now that she's officially 'part of the team' pretty sure Captain America & Nick Fury will hook her up with an outfit in the next Avengers movie. :cool:
 
Thoroughly enjoyed this movie.

IMO it ranks second in these MCU movies.

Winter Soldier is just that shit. That's one of those movies that, if you flipping channels and u see it's on, you put the remote down and finish watching it.

I'm just here so I don't get fined
 
Her choices were kinda limited since she didn't have a Billionaire, Demi God or Secret Government Agency to give her any special gear. :dunno:

Now that she's officially 'part of the team' pretty sure Captain America & Nick Fury will hook her up with an outfit in the next Avengers movie. :cool:
She was on the shield ship, I'm sure they had a lot of tactical gear/outfits on there, she could have put on some pants
 
Was looking forward to it from the moment we knew there would be a sequel. Lived up to the hype.

Action aside the real star of the movie is the little nuances in the way they interacted with each other.

Hawkeye stole the show imo. He's like the Avenger that knows he's not a God but holds the team together and doesn't try to make sense of anything. When they went to his house and met his family.. everyone sans Nat is just like ok lol we thought this was one dude but he's just a regular joe.

When Capt made the hammer lift a lil and Thor was like.... wait hold up...

When War's story didn't impress Tony and Thor he felt like shit. went to the regular crowd and they loved it and he had the nod of approval like..yea ok i know my story is the shit.

Everything Banner and Nat related was great

Ultron was awesome. Bizarro stark done only the way spader could deliver. he had me laughing the entire time while realizing he is really fucking insane and really wants to kill everything lol

They can do as many of these as they want to.

The trailer for Batman showed- going to see that

Trailer for Jurrasic park showed- going to see that

Some bullshit with clooney showed and some bullshit with adam sandler showed

will not be going to see those
 
looks like the question I asked earlier was also asked by yahoo...

Ulysses Klaw does not have family. There was his father, a former WWII Nazi war criminal, and his great-grandfather who was killed in Wakanda, both of whom are deceased. So who is that girl in the photographs? The camera lingered too many times and for too long for her to not matter. Perhaps SHE is the reason the MCU version of Klaw hates Wakanda so much?

Link: https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/12-times-avengers-age-ultron-180000396.html
 
I thought James Spader was the perfect voice for Ultron but I didn't like that they gave him such a human personality. Also, much like Optimus Prime, why the hell did they give him lips?
Totally agree. I liked the parts when he took over his clones and talked through them, they had the original Ultron look:yes:

totally agree with all you said , particularly love how Vision's trust issue was answered. Only gripe I wanted Ultron to be more menacing
Nuff said. :dance:
Same here. Ultron never really felt like a huge threat. The Winter Soldier was more menacing everytime he showed up than Ultron.


I expected more HAL-9000/G1 Shockwave/Colossus: The Forbin Project(old school reference), but he ends up turning into a chatty Cathy while singing Pinocchio's "Got no strings on me" on the Quinjet:lol:

But Ultron did drop a couple of jewels in the film.

Ultron: "Vibranium, the most versatile substance on the planet, and they used it to build a Frisbee"!
My favorite one, after Wanda scans the still forming Vision and sees Ultron's future of destruction:
Ultron: “THAT IS NOT!.....The human race will have every opportunity to improve.”

Wanda: “And if they don’t?”

Ultron: “Ask Noah.”
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'Avengers 2' Box Office: 'Age Of Ultron' Assembles 'Mere' $84M Friday
That I really wanted to write about the first $100 million single-day this morning doesn’t negate the fact that Avengers: Age of Ultron made an obscene amount of money yesterday in the form of a $84.46m Friday gross. That it only barely bested the $80m opening day of The Avengers and didn’t quite top the $91m opening day of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part II only means that The Boy Who Lived gets to keep his single-day record for a little while longer (I’m not sure that $43.5m midnight/Thursday record is ever going down). And even if Avengers: Age of Ultron doesn’t quite best the $207m debut weekend of The Avengers, then Walt Disney and Marvel will have to take what little solace they can in the fact that they still have the top three all-time opening weekend records and they will probably be adding to the top five or top ten with the likes of Captain America: The War Between the Capes, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, and Avengers: This’ll Teach You To Laugh At Me For Not Having Any Infinity Stones! Part I and II. So if I can’t write about eye-poppingly huge numbers, I can at least take a moment to defend what’s still probably going to be a $200m debut weekend. May we all fail so gloriously…

Yes, Avengers: Age of Ultron earned $84.46 million on its first day of business, and that number includes $27.6m worth of Thursday previews. That’s the second biggest single day gross of all-time, behind the $91m Friday of Harry Potter 7.2 (which included said $43.5m midnight haul) and just ahead of the $80m Friday of The Avengers (which included $18.7m worth of midnight previews). Now for those keeping track, that means that Avengers 2 earned 32.6% of its first day via previews, compared to the 22% earned by Iron Man 3 two years ago. What that means is that Avengers 2 of 4 is indeed a little more front loaded for the weekend, playing less like a Marvel sequel and more like a Chris Nolan Batman sequel or a Hunger Games installment. Here’s another promising statistic: The $250 million Joss Whedon-directed sequel earned $56.86m on its “normal business hours” Friday, which makes it the third-best “normal Friday” take behind The Avengers ($62.7m) and Iron Man 3 ($53.25m) and ahead of the $51.6m “just Friday” haul of Furious 7 last month. Point being, by any other standards save our own perhaps unrealistic expectations, Avengers: Age of Ultron‘s opening day is a triumph.


There is talk that tonight’s receipts might be impacted by a pay-per-view boxing match between “Gosh, I haven’t followed boxing since Mike Tyson lost to Buster Douglas” and “Champs is a fantastic documentary about boxing which you should rent when it debuts on DVD a week from Tuesday.” If I am snarky toward said predictions, it’s because pundits are always claiming that some outside event is going to hurt a film’s opening weekend, and it usually doesn’t come to pass (remember when Iron Man was going to get hurt by Grand Theft Auto IV?). Besides, if you don’t get around to seeing Avengers: Age of Ultron because you’re busy watching the Mayweather v Pacquiao fight tonight, you’re still going to check it out in theaters eventually, so it’s merely money over there instead of money over here.

Anyway, if the film plays like a normal Marvel sequel (over/under 2.5x multiplier), we’re looking at a new record with $212 million. If it plays a bit more frontloaded, be it because it’s a sequel or because you’re getting slightly less “walk-ups” this time around, and maybe it has to settle for a Hunger Games/Dark Knight 2.3x weekend multiplier, it still gets to $195m. Split the difference and give it a 2.4x and a $202.7m, and I think offhand that’s what we’re looking at here. Worst-case scenario is a 2.0x multiplier, in line with The Dark Knight Rises and the later Twilight sequels, which gives the film a $169m debut weekend. Even if Avengers 2 scores a terrible 1.85x multiplier (Fault in Our Stars, Harry Potter 7.2) and scores an awful 2.15x weekend-to-final multiplier (Amazing Spider-Man 2, Godzilla), we’re still looking at a $156m debut and a $336m domestic final plus whatever bazillions of dollars it wracks up in China and elsewhere. Obviously none of that is going to happen, but that’s the bottom-rung worst case scenario and it would still be pretty huge. Speaking of overseas, it has now earned $425m worldwide heading into today.

What’s more likely is that the Robert Downey Jr. and Friends sequel notches a $202m debut weekend (2.4x) and nets a “low for Marvel” 2.35x (think Iron Man 3) and ends up with a sad and shameful $476.3m domestic which would still make it the 5th-biggest grossing movie of all-time, not adjusted for inflation. Anything even a little better than that still gets the film over the $500m domestic mark. For the record, there was zero chance that Avengers 2 was going to equal or surpass the $623m domestic haul of The Avengers, just as The Dark Knight Rises was never going to top The Dark Knight. What was once unique and impressive is now expected and somewhat taken-for-granted. Besides, Walt Disney has another big movie to market, with Brad Bird’s Tomorrowland dropping on May 22nd.

By the way, that the film earned comparatively inferior reviews (from myself and others) compared to the last few Marvel films doesn’t mean that the Marvel formula or the Marvel cinematic universe is in long term jeopardy. That’s a little like when you all whined about how the (relative) artistic failure of Cars 2 marked the end of Pixar as it failed all the way to $559 million worldwide, or how Brave “disappointed” all the way to $539m worldwide and an Oscar, or how Monsters University “rehashed” all the way to $743m worldwide while earning decent reviews (the last five minutes of that film are somewhat amazing). Also, I have been a bit grouchy about the sheer amount of promotional material that Disney has seen fit to unleash in the run-up to the release. While I still maintain that a film like Avengers: Age of Ultron doesn’t need 4 trailers, 16 clips, and 42 TV spots, the quality of the marketing campaign was a step up from the last go-around. Whether or not Avengers: Age of Ultron opened with $84.46m in one day because or despite the copious material or the somewhat disastrous press tour, the fact remains that the trailers and TV spots were of a relatively high quality. I can criticize the quantity, but I cannot criticize the quality.

Finally, there are plenty of sequels, even to much-liked originals, that merely opened in the same ballpark as the previous entries. From Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets to The Hunger Games: Catching Fire to The Dark Knight Rises, there is no shame and no defeat in the next chapter debuting just below or just above the prior installment. Not every sequel makes the magic Casino Royale-to-Quantum QTM +1% of Solace jump, especially when said franchise was already at the top of the pile. Okay, that’s enough for one day of Avengers box office analysis. Join me tomorrow for the weekend estimates and holdover news (Furious 7 and The Age of Adaline are the only other films that made over $2m on Friday). And no, Avengers 2 is not a failure if it doesn’t outgross Furious 7 at the end of this weekend or even in the long run, but that’s a conversation for tomorrow.
 
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Box Office: 'Avengers: Ultron' No. 2 U.S. Debut of All Time With $187.7M; Hits $627M Globally
Continuing Marvel Studios and Disney's winning streak, Joss Whedon's Avengers: Age of Ultron opened to $187.7 million from 4,276 theaters in North America, the No. 2 opening of all time behind The Avengers.

Overseas, where the summer's first tentpole began opening last weekend, Age of Ultron earned another $168 million from 88 territories for a foreign total of $439 million and early worldwide haul of $627 million. In only 12 days, it has surpassed the lifetime global earnings of Captain America ($371 million), Thor ($449 million), Iron Man ($583 million) and Iron Man 2 ($622 million).

In North America, all eyes were on the sequel to see if it could beat the $207.4 million debut of the first Avengers on the same weekend in 2012 and become the new champ. Instead, it came in more than 9 percent behind.

As the weekend wore on, it became apparent that Saturday night's Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao fight was hurting Ultron in a big way. Some box office observers believe the movie could have approached $200 milion were it not for competition from the PPV event. Moviegoing tumbled 40 percent from Friday to Saturday in Los Angeles and San Francisco, for instance, and more than 50 percent in some Hispanic markets, such as El Paso, Texas.

Costing $89-$99 to watch, the fight is expected to have generated hundreds of millions in revenue. Additionally, thousands watched the fight on pirate sites. "The fight dinged all films across the board. The numbers on Ultron are still phenomenal but definitely less than they would have been," said one rival studio executive.

Males made up 59 percent of Ultron's audience, while nearly 60 percent of ticket buyers were 25 and over. Families represented 22 percent and teens 12 percent.

Disney and Marvel now boast the top three opening weekends of all time domestically, thanks to the two Avengers entries and Iron Man 3, which debuted to $174.1 million in May 2013. Age of Ultron pushes Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows — Part 2 ($169.2 million) to No. 4.

Dave Hollis, Disney's distribution chief, says it's a testament to the "extraordinary achievements of Marvel," as well as the vast resources of Disney, from the film division, to theme parks to consumer products, among other units.

"We are in a great place," says Hollis "And if someone didn't see Ultron Saturay night, they will see it today or next week. And overseas, in local currency, we are pacing 31 percent ahead of the first Avengers."

Only eight films in history have opened to $150 million or more domestically, with only Marvel cracking the $170 million threshold. In other words, when a film gets to the level of Age of Ultron, no one is going on the attack against Marvel and Disney.

The bigger question will be Age of Ultron's staying power, and whether it can ultimately match the $1.5 billion earned by Avengers worldwide in 2012. The latter had the cachet of being the first superhero mashup and earned an A+ CinemaScore, compared to an A for Age of Ultron.

On Friday, Age of Ultron grossed a massive $84.5 milion domestically, the biggest opening day for a superhero film and the second-biggest of all time after the final Harry Potter film ($91.7 million). In 2012, Avengers pulled in $80.8 million on its first Friday. However, Age of Ultron lagged behind Avengers on Saturday ($57.2 million versus $69.6 million).

Overseas, Ultron posted the biggest opening of all time in several markets this weekend, including Mexico ($25.5 million). Ditto last weekend in Brazil, Hong Kong and the Philippines. Overall, Korea leads with $55.4 million, followed by the U.K. ($48.1 million), Brazil ($29.5 million), Russia ($27.2 million), Australia ($23 million), France ($23 million), Germany ($19.7 million), Italy ($15.2 million), Taiwan ($14.3 million), India ($14 million) and Hong Kong (13.3 million), among other territories.

Imax theaters showing Whedon's film generated $25.2 million in worldwide ticket sales this weekend without the benefit of China, a new record, inlcuding $18 million in the U.S. Rival premium large format screens turned in $13.5 million in the U.S.

Age of Ultron, costing $250 million to make, returns Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk, Chris Evans as Captain America and Scarlett Johansson as the Black Widow. The ensemble cast also includes Jeremy Renner, Don Cheadle and Paul Bettany.

This time, the superheroes and their allies must work together to stop Ultron (James Spader), who intends to destroy the world.

Elsewhere, Universal's Furious 7 finished Sunday with a global gross of $1.429 billion, passing up Deathly Hallows ($1.341 billion) to become the No. 4 top-grossing title of all time at the worldwide box office behind Avengers, Avatar ($2.8 billion) and Titanic ($2.2 billion).

No other film dared open nationwide opposite Age of Ultron, leaving the rest of the box office battle to holdovers.
 
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Box Office: 'Avengers 2' Snags Super $187M In Near-Record Weekend
Walt Disney’s Avengers: Age of Ultron snagged not the best debut weekend of all-time, but the second-best debut weekend of all time, earning a still-absurd $187.7 million in its domestic debut. Yes we all wanted a new debut weekend record but second-best is good enough this time around, especially when the current record holder is the first Avengers film. Marvel and Walt Disney now have the top three opening weekend records, with The Avengers ($207m), Avengers: Age of Ultron ($187.7m), and Iron Man 3 ($174m) topping the list. They’ll get more chances to break their own record or merely take up more slots on the list over the next few years with the likes of Captain America: The War of Heroic Aggression, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, and Avengers: Look Who’s Got All The Infinity Stones Now, Losers?! parts 1 and 2. I would argue that Joss Whedon’s second Avengers film is the only movie you could think of where an $187.7m debut weekend could be discussed with anything beyond profanity-filled superlatives. And yes, I’m counting Star Wars: The Force Awakens in that category, as the biggest December opening is The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey with $83m. We’ll talk about that on another day, but that $207m Avengers opening weekend record might stay intact for awhile. But again, even in this current environment, this is a spectacular debut and an affirmation of the brand.

The film earned $27.6m on Thursday previews, which were folded into an overall $84.46m Friday (the second best single day, behind Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part II‘s $91m Friday gross). The film nabbed $57.2m Saturday gross (-33%, while Avengers dropped 13% back in 2012), and around $45.9m Sunday (-19%, versus an 18% drop for The Avengers). That $57m Saturday was the third-biggest Saturday gross of all-time, behind The Avengers ($69m) and Iron Man 3 ($62m). Said $45m Sunday was the second-largest behind only The Avengers ($57m). Yes the Thursday night figure made up a bit more of the Friday total (32% versus 22%) and yes the the weekend multiplier is troublesome (a mere 2.22x, better than Furious 7 but worse than any Marvel film by a distance) on its face. Also, the film did a hearty 14.7% of its weekend business on Thursday, which is way over the Marvel normal of 8-12%. Come what may, Avengers: Age of Ultron played less like a Marvel sequel and more like a feverishly anticipated “for fans only” sequel, at least for one weekend anyway.


In terms of overseas might, its $626.7 million worldwide cume is a bit under the $641m worldwide cume after the first 1.5 weeks of Avengers worldwide play. But overseas debuts are often apples-to-oranges comparisons due to films opening in different markets at different times in their global runs, and we still have that pesky deflation issue to account for. Nonetheless, it earned another $168m overseas this weekend for a new $439m overseas cume with rock-solid debuts in the likes of Korea ($55m), UK ($48m), Brazil ($30m), Russia ($27m), Mexico ($27m), Australia ($23m), France ($23m), Germany ($20m), Italy ($15m) and Taiwan ($14m). The two biggies still left are China (May 12th, and a major piece of the overall puzzle) and Japan on July 4th weekend.

I will admit that the alleged $400 million worth of pay-per-view sales for that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao boxing match that everyone was talking about may have maybe/possibly have dinged the Saturday night domestic numbers, if only just a tad. But the good news is that if that is the case then it’s just a matter of money being made this week or next weekend instead. It’s not like fans who otherwise would have seen Avengers: Age of Ultron last night but watched a fight instead are now never going to see the film in theatres. Avengers 2 earned $56 million (29%) in Real 3D auditoriums and $18m (9.5%) in IMAX alone. With $5m from Furious 7 in Japan and China and a $25m global total for Avengers 2, IMAX snagged its first $30m weekend. Also, the various PLF screens earned a record-for-them $13.5m (7.1%), meaning that at least 16.6% of domestic consumers chose to see Avengers 2 on the biggest screen they could find. That’s heartening to me.

The film played 59% male, 60% 25-and-up, 22% “families” and 12% “teens. Nonetheless, it is unlikely that the film pull a 3x multiplier that the first film did, as the so-called thrill is (comparatively) “gone” and the film is going to play this juncture (especially with Mad Max: Fury Road dropping in two weekends and Walt Disney having to ramp up the campaign for Tomorrowland) like a traditional front loaded sequel. I’d expect something closer to a 2.35x (Iron Man 3) or 2.43x (Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk,and Thor: The Dark World) than the 3x of The Avengers and Iron Man. So if we are playing with those figures, we’re looking at a final domestic total of $442m-$461m.

If it plays like The Dark Knight Rises, Captain America 1, Captain America 2, or Thor 1 (over/under 2.7x). it gets to around $506m domestic. In the absolute worst-case scenario, Avengers 2 plays like Spider-Man 3 or Amazing Spider-Man 2 (around 2.22x) for a pathetic $416m total. Geez, with numbers like that, plus whatever over/under $1 billion worldwide it makes (it has already earned $626.7m worldwide, and if it plays like the first it gets to $1.48b worldwide and that’s not accounting for a likely massive bump in China), Joss Whedon might not come back to direct the next one!

Look, at the end of the day we’re still looking at the second-biggest debut weekend of all-time and a number that is near the top of pretty much every short term box office record. For the record, there was zero chance that Avengers 2 was going to equal or surpass the $623m domestic haul of The Avengers, just as The Dark Knight Rises was never going to top The Dark Knight. What was once unique and impressive is now expected and somewhat taken-for-granted.

Also, I have been a bit grouchy about the sheer amount of promotional material that Disney has seen fit to unleash in the run-up to the release. While I still maintain that a film like Avengers: Age of Ultron doesn’t need 4 trailers, 16 clips, and 42 TV spots, the quality of the marketing campaign was a step up from the last go-around. Whether or not Avengers: Age of Ultron opened with $187.7 million in one weekend because or despite the copious material or the somewhat (hilariously?) disastrous press tour, the fact remains that the trailers and TV spots were of a relatively high quality. I can criticize the quantity, but I cannot criticize the quality of said campaign. That “No Strings On Me” teaser was a work of genuine art.

There isn’t much holdover news to discuss, as the drops were pretty harsh all around. Furious 7 earned $6.1 million (-65% because “duh”) and Age of Adeline earned $6.25m (-53%) this weekend, bringing their cumes to $330m and $23.4m respectively. Oh, and Furious 7 has now earned $1.4b worldwide, becoming the fourth-biggest worldwide grosser behind The Avengers ($1.5b), Titanic ($2b), and Avatar ($2.7b). That’s pretty astounding, and I wish I had time this morning to pen a separate piece about it (I would not be shocked if it outgrosses Age of Ultron overseas if not worldwide). I’ll correct the omission when it passes The Avengers.

It Follows surpassed Spring Breakers with a new $14.28m cume while Ex Machina earned around $2.2m for the weekend (-60%) for a new $10.6m domestic cume. For what it’s worth, that’s a bigger drop than the 34% drop that It Follows took against the opening weekend of Furious 7 in its fourth weekend. They are both solid small-scale hits, but I’m overcompensating because I took a needless dump on It Follows when it went wide last month. In limited debuts, Far From the Maddening Crowd earned $172k from 10 theaters while Kristen Wiig’s Welcome to Me (coming to VOD on May 8th) earned $38k on two screens. Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2 earned another $5.55m for a new $51.19m cume, Home earned $4m for a new $158m cume, and everything else made under $2.5m for the weekend. Unfriended earned $2m to bring its domestic cume to $28m and its worldwide cume to $32m.


I know that’s skimpy, but I’ll try to make it up to you this week with a Box Office Catch-Up column. Join us next weekend for the Reese Witherspoon/Sofia Vergara comedy Hot Pursuit and the 700+ screen debut of The D Train, an IFC comedy with Jack Black, Jack Black, Kathryn Hahn, and James Marsden. Of note, it’s the first remotely wide theatrical release in IFC’s history (even My Big Fat Greek Wedding opened on 100 screens) and their first aside from MBFGW and Boyhood to ever play on more than 286 screens, period. So I’ll try to be nice when the numbers come in. Anyway, enjoy this Rentrak top-ten:

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Thoroughly enjoyed this movie.

IMO it ranks second in these MCU movies.

Winter Soldier is just that shit.
That's one of those movies that, if you flipping channels and u see it's on, you put the remote down and finish watching it.

I'm just here so I don't get fined


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It's funny to see how some reviewers preferred "Guardians" to this movie. "GotG" was surprisingly good but this beat out even the first Avengers and Iron Man movie to me and ranks only behind
Winter Soldier.

Was looking forward to it from the moment we knew there would be a sequel. Lived up to the hype.

Action aside the real star of the movie is the little nuances in the way they interacted with each other.

Hawkeye stole the show imo. He's like the Avenger that knows he's not a God but holds the team together and doesn't try to make sense of anything. When they went to his house and met his family.. everyone sans Nat is just like ok lol we thought this was one dude but he's just a regular joe.

When Capt made the hammer lift a lil and Thor was like.... wait hold up...

When War's story didn't impress Tony and Thor he felt like shit. went to the regular crowd and they loved it and he had the nod of approval like..yea ok i know my story is the shit.

Everything Banner and Nat related was great

Ultron was awesome. Bizarro stark done only the way spader could deliver. he had me laughing the entire time while realizing he is really fucking insane and really wants to kill everything lol

They can do as many of these as they want to.


I didn't think Ultron needed lips but otherwise, I got why his dry but menacing wit--Bizarro Stark, as you said.

For the old, old school Avengers comic fans, this was not just the movie sequel it also gave a big screen treatment to the second issue except it's the Scarlet Witch who plays the role of the Space Phantom and turns them against each other.
And it's a big screen adaptation of the changing of the guard. It is not the Avengers if they don't rotate the membership.
This one sets up a lot of other movies. Falcon and Cap are still looking for Bucky. This is the most direct mention of Wakanda to date. The first real crack in the team's trust of Stark. The reveal of all the Infinity Gems. And of course, there's Thanos.

I appreciate them making this a world wide crisis and not just in New York City.


You find the dumbest shit to complain about.

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Grey Hulk Was Almost Included In ‘Avengers: Age of Ultron’
Hulk is one of the founding members of the Avengers and one of the most recognizable Marvel Comics characters of all-time, but many fans of his appearances in live-action films and television may not realize that he wasn’t always green.

The alter ego of Dr. Bruce Banner was originally intended to be grey but due to issues with inking comic pages in the early ’60s, his color was changed by creators Stan Lee and Jack Kirby to be green. The grey color however, remained part of the character’s identity and history, and as we learned over the weekend, almost made its way into Avengers: Age of Ultron as well.

There have been many Marvel Comics storylines over the decades that delve into the mindset of Banner, some of which even point towards the character having dissociative identity disorder long before a science experiment granted him the ability of turning into The Incredible Hulk. So, his personality issues are not as simple as Banner vs. Angry Hulk.

The Hulk himself has different personalities, and each can considered a different aspect of Banner’s own psyche: the angry and green (most common) savage Hulk we see in the movies, and another, more calm and intelligent Grey Hulk persona who at one point wore a suit and served as a bouncer named “Joe Fixit” in the comics.

Speaking with the Industrial Light & Magic special effects crew who worked on the Avengers films, Wired learned that during at least one sequence in Age of Ultron, the Hulk was almost going to change color to grey when he hit a whole new level of rage.

“Initially, Hulk was actually planned to turn grey when he’s angry Hulk in the Hulkbuster sequence but hey, everybody wanted the green guy. So, in the end, ILM just changed his eyes to make them look more sullen when he’s under the control of Scarlet Witch.”

Without getting into spoilery details, the Hulkbuster sequence – as revealed in Avengers: Age of Ultron trailers and clips – features the long-awaited bout between Iron Man suited up in his largest armored suit yet battling the Hulk in an effort to prevent the uncontrollable beast from hurting civilians.

Seeing another color of Hulk wouldn’t be a surprise to us for the Marvel Cinematic Universe given the company’s desire for each franchise film to introduced new looks/designs/costumes for almost every character for marketing and merchandising opportunities. After all, there are quite a few versions of the Hulk in the Marvel Comics.

Since Mark Ruffalo has several pictures left on his contract with Marvel, there’s still room for his Hulk to evolve in design. Whether that means a new color of skin, weapons (see: Planet Hulk/World War Hulk comics) or even an advanced armor suit (see: modern Avengers comics), there are plenty of ways for the MCU to augment the strongest Avenger.
 
loved it. really like when thor went wtf for a split sec when cap budged the hammer.

when the vision had it in his hand, everyone in the theatre went 'ooooh'

hawkeye when he said 'we're fighting robots and i have a bow and arrow. i know this doesn't make sense':lol:

quiet as kept, Hawkeye might've stolen the show.

he refused to be mindfucked two movies in a row, was the one who set Scarlet Witch on the right track, had the secret family life, gave the Avengers an off radar location to hide out in, and had THE BEST QUOTES of the movie.

on contemplating killing Quicksilver: "Nobody would know. Nobody. When I found him, Ultron was sitting on him. Yeah, he’ll be missed, quick little bastard. I miss him already."

on explaining to FANBOYS why they shouldn't over think the movie: "The city is flying...THE CITY IS FLYING... we’re fighting an army of robots and I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense."

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Kinda agree on the Ultron part


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'Avengers' Review: 5 Things 'Age Of Ultron' Gets Dead Wrong
Well, I’ve finally seen Avengers: Age of Ultron.

I shuffled out of the packed theater feeling…letdown.

That’s not to say I didn’t enjoy myself.

Aside from all the insane people who brought their very young, very noisy children to a movie wholly inappropriate for them, I had a pretty good time.

But I didn’t have the same sort of good time I had at the first Avengers. Compared to the last major Marvel movie I saw—Guardians of the Galaxy—Age of Ultron simply pales.
In fact, I’m enjoying the Netflix Original Marvel TV show, Daredevil, quite a lot more than anything I saw today, though Ultron is a lot funnier. The running “watch your language” joke is cute. I chuckled many times, though not enough times to justify the price of admission on comedy alone.

So where did Age of Ultron g0 wrong? It’s filled with action, wise-cracks, and some great special effects, but something is still missing. It’s the perfect recipe on paper, but the final meal is…underwhelming.

Warning: There will be spoilers.

I’ve boiled it down to five major complaints that encompass all the little ways this Avengers film fell short. Let’s start with…

1. ‘Age of Ultron’ is too sappy for no reason, and without a payoff.
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The movie constantly tries to tug at your heart-strings (but there are no strings on me!) and almost always fails to land a real emotional punch.


Black Widow and Hulk have a nice moment as she calms the “big guy” down. But that transforms weirdly, quickly, into an oddly forward Natasha Romanoff hitting on a Bruce Banner almost as confused as me.

By the end of the film, Banner is gone and Natasha is all bummed out, and the audience is pretty much unmoved. It’s a weird little side plot that doesn’t add anything but confusion to the story.

Meanwhile, Hawkeye, now questioning his relevance to the team (much as audiences did back when the first Avengers came out) reveals his wife and family to his more super-heroic pals. This is an attempt to humanize him, one presumes, but it just feels…off.

What’s the point? Why do we need to humanize Hawkeye? Just give him more funny lines and let him shoot things with exploding arrows. All these little touchy-feely distractions are used to slow down what’s an otherwise action-packed adventure.

Which leads us to…

2. ’Age of Ultron’ has a serious pacing problem.
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It’s pretty standard in action movies to sprinkle in slower moments, comic relief, and so forth in between the action to give everyone time to catch their breath.

This works okay in Age of Ultron, but for some reason a lot of the slower scenes—not all, but a lot—just don’t work at all, and serve only to muck up the film’s momentum.

The “lift Thor’s hammer” scene is a good example of how to do humor in an action movie (though mostly everyone had already seen it thanks to the over-marketing campaign moviegoers have been subjected to.)

But many other slow scenes felt bogged down, and there was rarely a sense that our heroes were really in enough trouble to need to catch their breath in the first place.

Hiding out at Hawkeye’s farm? Yeah, these guys don’t even look beat up. Why not just turn around and beat up Ultron. He’s not at all scary (like he’s supposed to be.) More on that later.

The wood-chopping was funny—there are lots of funny bits scattered about the film—and the dream sequences were interesting, but most of the slower moments were just boring.

Not even Samuel L. Jackson could save the day.

3. Unfortunately, the action scenes don’t improve matters.
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I could make a mini-list about everything wrong with the action scenes in this movie. Other than a couple gems, the action in Age of Ultron fell well short of its predecessor.

I rather enjoyed watching the Hulk duke it out with an over-sized Iron Man, especially with all the macho talk and testosterone-fueled posturing (turns out, size really does matter!)

The Hulk/Iron Man fight reminded me of the best fights of the last movie, which often included our super-heroes facing off against one another. And I think one reason I liked these fights so much, is because we didn’t know who would win or what the outcome would be.

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But we pretty much do know the outcome of the fights in Age of Ultron. That robot army doesn’t stand a chance. There’s not even a moment in the entire film when it seems like they’re even all that hard-up.

The one possible threat that might put a dent in our Avengers’ plot to save the earth was the creation of an Infinity-stone powered version of Ultron. Instead, we got Vision—a Jarvis-bot reprogrammed with Tony Stark’s Jarvis AI (which is even more awesome than Ultron’s AI, I guess) and released by Thor’s Mighty Hammer.


I think Vision is a cool character, and I like how he’s portrayed here, but talk about a serious letdown from a plot perspective. They castrate the big bad’s plans well before the final showdown.

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The final showdown, meanwhile, is wholly lackluster except for the death of newly-introduced Flash, er, Quicksilver, who has one of the coolest powers and looks pretty dead by the end (but who knows…)

The stakes are rarely, if ever, high in these action sequences, or in the entire film for that matter (we are all fairly sure that Ultron will fail and that none of our heroes will die, nothing horrible will happen, etc.)

Meanwhile, the most bombastic action sequences are simply too messy and chaotic. When you’re trying to watch six or seven different heroes at once fight off (rather lame) robot attackers, it can be a little hard to follow.

While there’s some terrific special effects at play, and some decent fight choreography, there just aren’t all that many “wow” moments, either, to make these fights feel distinct. Maybe that’s just because so much stuff is going on all the time.

Maybe it’s because some of the “so much stuff” involved we’ve kind of seen before, in the last Avengers movie.

Think of the scene in the first Avengers when they’re trying to stop the SHIELD hellicarrier from crashing. Iron Man and Captain America and co. are all trying furiously to save the ship from crashing. It’s a great, tense scene. We move back and forth between this battle and other action, but it all flows together really well.

Fast-forward to Age of Ultron and Iron Man trying to get to “the core” of the big machine Ultron has built in a giant flying city and it not only doesn’t really make sense, it’s just hard to follow. The same dynamic is at play, making it less interesting, but it’s much, much messier.

4. We’re introduced to too many new (and old) characters, but not all the best characters.
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There’s also the matter of an ever-growing cast of characters. That’s something of an inevitability when you’re making something like the Marvel Cinematic Universe (which, ya know, is making an Ant-Man movie of all things.)

But still, it means we have a lot of divvying up of screen-time and not a ton of focus. We have Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver (but not the X-Men version of Quicksilver!) as well as Don Cheadle’s War Machine, and Falcon (though black Avengers are still just getting cameos here and we’ll see if Scarlet Witch is anything other than a bit part in future films.)

Seriously, the X-Men look positively diverse compared to the Avengers. Regardless, we still have an overly-crowded cast, with Nick Fury and various SHIELD agents also making an appearance. Meanwhile some of our favorite characters—or at least, Loki—don’t appear at all.

Which leads us to the most important new character in the entire movie: Ultron himself.

5. Unfortunately, the villain is lame.
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Ultron is the funniest evil robot I’ve seen in a movie in a long time, maybe ever. He’s a lot like his “maker” Tony Stark, but with a dark, demented side.

But he’s not as scary as the Winter Soldier, or as interesting or entertaining as duplicitous Loki, or as ominous as say, hyper-intelligent Ava from Ex Machina.

In fact, Ultron is a really terrible super-villain. He’s a “villain of the week” at best, and not even a very good one. He’s supposed to be this enormously powerful AI that can use the internet however he pleases, yet he barely does anything other than find ways to blow things up. That doesn’t sound like a hyper-intelligent and adaptable being, it sounds like a cartoon villain.

So instead of using his tech to shut down global banking systems, hack military servers, start a nuclear war*, or do really anything intelligent at all, Ultron builds a great big bomb that requires him to lift an entire city out of the ground in order to detonate.

*Note: I realize in the film Ultron was stymied in his attempts to gain access to nuclear codes. That does not mean a more clever villain couldn’t have used his technological capabilities to start a war. He didn’t bother to create any chaos, any distractions for the heroes outside of the twins. A better villain would have thrust the world into chaos prior to his big destroy the world segment. Ultron failed to do anything particularly interesting in this regard.

This entire bad guy was devised in order to pull off a special effects gimmick. That’s the extent of thought that went into Ultron. Never once (or at least not for more than a split second if we watched a preview) do we think Ultron will be good. We aren’t given any time for him and Stark to form a relationship that could later turn to hatred.

There is none of the passion that makes a Frankenstein’s Monster actually work as a dramatic element. Stark is no Frankenstein, and Ultron is no Monster. They barely have any interaction at all. There is never that process that allows us to accept Ultron first as Stark’s “child” and then as his antagonist. It feels so rushed, so pointless.

(Note: I’m definitely feeling a little extra biased here having just watched Ex Machina, but I think I would feel this way regardless. If you’re going to go for Frankenstein’s monster, go for broke.)

The villain poses very little threat, very rarely puts any of the heroes into any sort of bind (save once, with the help of Scarlet Witch) and fails to impress at every turn. And my god, the Pinocchio song that he sings in the previews, and again in the movie—let this go down as one of the greatest of MCU’s mistakes since Disney acquired the comic book company.

How disappointing.

All of these complaints aside, I still had fun at the Avengers sequel. Yes, there were some very irritating parents in the audience who brought kids far too young to a very long and violent movie, but aside from that I had fun. It was an entertaining sequel, but very much (one hopes) the middle-child of the Avengers films.

Let’s hope Infinity War and the Guardians of the Galaxy sequel fare better.
 
quiet as kept, Hawkeye might've stolen the show.

he refused to be mindfucked two movies in a row, was the one who set Scarlet Witch on the right track, had the secret family life, gave the Avengers an off radar location to hide out in, and had THE BEST QUOTES of the movie.

on contemplating killing Quicksilver: "Nobody would know. Nobody. When I found him, Ultron was sitting on him. Yeah, he’ll be missed, quick little bastard. I miss him already."

on explaining to FANBOYS why they shouldn't over think the movie: "The city is flying...THE CITY IS FLYING... we’re fighting an army of robots and I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense."

:lol:

:yes::yes::yes::yes:
 
Was looking forward to it from the moment we knew there would be a sequel. Lived up to the hype.

Action aside the real star of the movie is the little nuances in the way they interacted with each other.

Hawkeye stole the show imo. He's like the Avenger that knows he's not a God but holds the team together and doesn't try to make sense of anything. When they went to his house and met his family.. everyone sans Nat is just like ok lol we thought this was one dude but he's just a regular joe.

When Capt made the hammer lift a lil and Thor was like.... wait hold up...

When War's story didn't impress Tony and Thor he felt like shit. went to the regular crowd and they loved it and he had the nod of approval like..yea ok i know my story is the shit.

Everything Banner and Nat related was great

Ultron was awesome. Bizarro stark done only the way spader could deliver. he had me laughing the entire time while realizing he is really fucking insane and really wants to kill everything lol

They can do as many of these as they want to.

The trailer for Batman showed- going to see that

Trailer for Jurrasic park showed- going to see that


Some bullshit with clooney showed and some bullshit with adam sandler showed

will not be going to see those
:angry:

didn't see any of those

and i thought ultron was a little too funny....
 
Where the fuck is my nigga anothony Mackie ????????????

They showed him at the party then at the end

He coulda helped them a whole lot

And the fuck is Bucky????????????????????????
 
quiet as kept, Hawkeye might've stolen the show.

he refused to be mindfucked two movies in a row, was the one who set Scarlet Witch on the right track, had the secret family life, gave the Avengers an off radar location to hide out in, and had THE BEST QUOTES of the movie.


o"

:lol:

didnt he had beef with marvel or something? saying that he wanted more for character or he would walk. and the promised him he would get a bigger role.

anyway he was ok
 
So everyone is prepping for the fight and Scarlet Witch decides to stay in her mini dress and knee high boots and puts on a red jacket

Her and quicksilver didn't have any uniforms or equipment. They were wearing euro trash gear throughout the entire movie. All quicksilver did was grab some new sneakers before the last fight.

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wasnt a bad movie but i agree with all points except 4.
This is another good review and a crucial issue with Marvel's storytelling style of packing action to attract casual moviegoers, and having pretty much everything else as nods and winks to the fanboys.

You have no idea what any of these things are unless you already knew what they are going into the movie. That's not good storytelling IMO.

To put it another way, there comes a point at which Marvel needs to stop worrying about who’ll be pissed if they don’t mention the infinity stones and start communicating why we should give a sh*t about the infinity stones. Not that I don’t understand the weight of those expectations and empathize, somewhat. I can already hear the sound of a thousand outraged fanboys hurriedly logging in to scream at me in the comments section with a copy and pasted wall of text about the infinity stones and why they’re important to the larger Ultron universe, and why was I even watching this if I haven’t read Hank Thorsonssen’s landmark infinity stone quadrilogy? But look, some of us actually want to be told a story, not just reminded of storylines through an elaborate cross-platform synergistic teaser campaign. HEY, REMEMBER THANOS? HE’S HERE, GIVING YOU THE THUMBS UP FROM THE CORNER OF THE FRAME! ISN’T THAT AWESOME???

http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2015/04...k-inside-an-obnoxious-marketing-presentation/
 
Ultron has artificial intelligence but how does he have artificial emotions ?

Information and analysis is one thing but mood, instinct and intuition are developed over time
 
Ultron has artificial intelligence but how does he have artificial emotions ?

Information and analysis is one thing but mood, instinct and intuition are developed over time
The concept is that being able to access and retain such information quickly and then make decisions based upon that is why people are afraid of AI.

It's developed over time because we have to develop physically as well. Our brains are developing from childhood until early adulthood. But what if you didn't have to do that, and you simply came into existence, fully formed and fully developed? Again, add to that the capability of having the knowledge of the world at your immediate access, within you.

You need the computer you type on to post here. Ultron doesn't.
 
quiet as kept, Hawkeye might've stolen the show.

he refused to be mindfucked two movies in a row, was the one who set Scarlet Witch on the right track, had the secret family life, gave the Avengers an off radar location to hide out in, and had THE BEST QUOTES of the movie.

on contemplating killing Quicksilver: "Nobody would know. Nobody. When I found him, Ultron was sitting on him. Yeah, he’ll be missed, quick little bastard. I miss him already."

on explaining to FANBOYS why they shouldn't over think the movie: "The city is flying...THE CITY IS FLYING... we’re fighting an army of robots and I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense."

:lol:

he stole the entire movie for me. so much so i had those bad tv vibes where you get to see a character and how they really shine when normally you don't right before they kill him lol. i kept waiting for it.. like fuck here it comes! :lol:
 
:yes:

It's funny to see how some reviewers preferred "Guardians" to this movie. "GotG" was surprisingly good but this beat out even the first Avengers and Iron Man movie to me and ranks only behind
Winter Soldier.




I didn't think Ultron needed lips but otherwise, I got why his dry but menacing wit--Bizarro Stark, as you said.

For the old, old school Avengers comic fans, this was not just the movie sequel it also gave a big screen treatment to the second issue except it's the Scarlet Witch who plays the role of the Space Phantom and turns them against each other.
And it's a big screen adaptation of the changing of the guard. It is not the Avengers if they don't rotate the membership.
This one sets up a lot of other movies. Falcon and Cap are still looking for Bucky. This is the most direct mention of Wakanda to date. The first real crack in the team's trust of Stark. The reveal of all the Infinity Gems. And of course, there's Thanos.

I appreciate them making this a world wide crisis and not just in New York City.




:lol::lol:

Agreed. it's a world issue glad they went around the world this time.

The little things stood out so much more than the action for me. The vision was great man. it really acted like "i am" in all scenes. in the middle of a fight he swings thor's hammer then they're discussing the balance of weight :lol:
 
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