Aus PS3 launch, "underwhelming"
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matt357 said:
Europeans Reject the PS3 Due to High Price
Although the media characterized PS3’s launch in Europe as “controversial”, regular gaming fans all over the continent reported that in their countries Sony’s console stalls on stores’ shelves.
Desperate to get good press after a series of disasters (both concerning the PR and the manufacturing circuit), Sony readied at least 1 million consoles for the European debut of its next-gen gaming console, in order to stop any type of criticism that might appear.
Sony's senior PR manager for Europe, Jonathan Fargher, made the best resume for this kind of situation, in an interview with GameSpot UK: ”We're almost in a lose-lose situation--if we sell out on day one, then people will ask why we couldn't possibly have met demand, and that we should have been aware of the high demand for the machine. But if we don't sell out on day one because we've put steps in place to make sure that there's a steady stream of stock into retail, there's a large number of units on day one, then people will question why we haven't sold out.”
That is of course true and perfectly logical. But despite Phil Harrison’s attempt to make the PS3 more attractive ("There are benefits for European consumers. There are more games available, more Blu-ray movies, and we've updated the online PlayStation network.") Euro-gamers treated the launch with more indifference than anywhere else in the world....
But the most “famous” failed debut by far was in the French territory, where 95% of the consoles available at launch site remained unsold. Although Sony officials were expecting at least 3000 persons- and for that had mobilized 40 police officers- only 50 true-blue fans showed up. The co-organizers of the Paris event called it…a “non-event”....
Despite the efforts, some fans were just not satisfied. One British fan said on GameSpot that: “As a hardcore gamer I've not missed a console launch since I got an Atari 2600 as an Xmas present in 1978, but I'd not pay £425 for a games console, I'm the demographic that Sony is aiming for, buys loads of games has money to burn. But at that price its not worth it. […] I'm lucky that I get to go on Business to Japan once in a while (I work for Honda), so I bought my PS3 for £260 in Tokyo 3 months ago, So how come the PS3 is £260 in Japan and £425 in Europe, Japanese wages are higher than European wages, Shipping don’t cost £165 a time. We are ripped off in Europe all the time and we let them do it....
However, outside Virgin Megastore on London’s Oxford Street there was only one person- 17-year-old Rihatsu Thomas- to stand in line to get his PS3: “I thought there would be more people here,” he said. “I hope some more people come soon.”
http://www.playfuls.com/news_06713_Europeans_Reject_the_PS3_Due_to_High_Price.html
PS3 PAL launch - a flop or not?
There has been a lot of talk about the Sony Playstation 3 launch. Much of the focus has been on the especially embarrassing Australian launch, where reportedly the press outnumbered the fans. But really, should Sony be concerned?
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/10806/1092/
trekei said:
ONCE AGAIN
Back on the weekday grind
Record-breaking 165,000 PS3s sold at UK launch
18:45, Mar 26th 2007 by Neil Long
New format becomes fastest-selling home console ever over its debut weekend.
ChartTrack has confirmed that 165,000 PS3 units were sold during the console's launch weekend.
The figure is three quarters of the total 220,000 UK launch stock for day one, and makes PS3 second only to PSP in the overall launch weekend sales stakes. The Sony handheld shifted 185,000 in its opening weekend back in September 2005.
PS3’s record-breaking debut for a home console comfortably beats the previous top seller Nintendo Wii, which sold 105,000 after its frantic launch weekend in December last year. Fellow format rival Xbox 360 racked up an estimated 70,000 at launch in December 2005.
The figure also means that Sony has not sold all of its opening weekend stock, something the platform holder claims is part of its overall strategy at retail.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/26261/Rec...ld-at-UK-launch
Can't Run From it bro...I'll use it all night
PS3 is "two, three years ahead of the market" says MS boss
UK senior regional director for MS has been speaking to the times about the arrival of PS3 across Europe last Friday.
"In the technology and gaming there's really little in the PS3 where I can say, 'Gosh, I wish we had that'," he told the Times online. "The biggest threat that Sony has for us is the brand that's been established around it."
While Thompson admitted that PS3's graphics would give 360 a run for its money, he said that Microsoft is leading the race in the online department: "More and more we're seeing that the online experience is a really important factor. Sony has come up with an online world that seems to let you do just about everything except gaming.
"It's two, three years ahead of the market. People won't want to replace their entire DVD collections, and they'll get a better resolution with a standard DVD on an Xbox than a PS3. It's nowhere near the importance of the format war between VHS and DVD. The internet is becoming an increasingly important medium. Surely online is going to be the distribution method for much of the high-definition content.
You can read our exclusive interview with Stephen McGill, Microsoft's head of gaming and Entertainment and Devises Division UK, here, where he asks where Sony's killer games are.
ok im done for another week of throwing fuel in the fire
UK senior regional director for MS has been speaking to the times about the arrival of PS3 across Europe last Friday.
"In the technology and gaming there's really little in the PS3 where I can say, 'Gosh, I wish we had that'," he told the Times online. "The biggest threat that Sony has for us is the brand that's been established around it."
While Thompson admitted that PS3's graphics would give 360 a run for its money, he said that Microsoft is leading the race in the online department: "More and more we're seeing that the online experience is a really important factor. Sony has come up with an online world that seems to let you do just about everything except gaming.
"It's two, three years ahead of the market. People won't want to replace their entire DVD collections, and they'll get a better resolution with a standard DVD on an Xbox than a PS3. It's nowhere near the importance of the format war between VHS and DVD. The internet is becoming an increasingly important medium. Surely online is going to be the distribution method for much of the high-definition content.
You can read our exclusive interview with Stephen McGill, Microsoft's head of gaming and Entertainment and Devises Division UK, here, where he asks where Sony's killer games are.
ok im done for another week of throwing fuel in the fire
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trekei said:PS3 is "two, three years ahead of the market" says MS boss
UK senior regional director for MS has been speaking to the times about the arrival of PS3 across Europe last Friday.
"In the technology and gaming there's really little in the PS3 where I can say, 'Gosh, I wish we had that'," he told the Times online. "The biggest threat that Sony has for us is the brand that's been established around it."
While Thompson admitted that PS3's graphics would give 360 a run for its money, he said that Microsoft is leading the race in the online department: "More and more we're seeing that the online experience is a really important factor. Sony has come up with an online world that seems to let you do just about everything except gaming.
"It's two, three years ahead of the market. People won't want to replace their entire DVD collections, and they'll get a better resolution with a standard DVD on an Xbox than a PS3. It's nowhere near the importance of the format war between VHS and DVD. The internet is becoming an increasingly important medium. Surely online is going to be the distribution method for much of the high-definition content.
You can read our exclusive interview with Stephen McGill, Microsoft's head of gaming and Entertainment and Devises Division UK, here, where he asks where Sony's killer games are.
ok im done for another week of throwing fuel in the fire
well..looks like we're set for the future...and um that $479.00 black box
should be here in what about 2-3 weeks?
Akuma said:
I agree with you that $600 or $500/400 is too much for a videogame system......but I don't see my PS3 just as a game system so thats why I had no problem getting it.....
I basically believe that half way through the PS2 life, Sony said to themselves "we are in alot of homes" this is the best time to take advantage of this and make more money in the LONG run and have some control in how disk media in delivered........so the main reason the PS3 is that expensive is because of its BluRay capabilities..... now this is the question, when sony releases the next PS4 they say their game software will be e-distributed or something (just downloaded)......so if the next Playstation is still 600 or 500 then I'll have a problem, but I can understand why the PS3 has its price.....
there is an article somewhere out there about this "other" war that is going on........
for a while now more consumers have left their living rooms and have been spending more time in front of a computer.....
Sony and alot of friends.......
movie studios (BluRay backers)
hardware companies (fellow BluRay players) who also make HDTVs etc
are trying to bring you back in front of your TV (one reason PS3 doesn't have a VGA cable to hook up to a monitor where as 360 does)
Microsoft and some friends want to keep you in front of computers/set top boxes that use Microsoft software..... they entered the Gaming market and want to unify console gamers with PC gamers (good for some, while others don't care)
what is crazy is that I read somewhere where Sony is working on an OS that involves Linux to rival Windows......shit could get ugly in the next few years
either way both are just trying to make Money.......
Me personally, I can't wait to start fucking with Nintendo again (left after the N64, loved PilotWings) but then the GameCube threw me off and I'm not too much into the NintendoWii........ Xbox games remind me too much of PC gaming/PCgames and I don't trust the system itself........
PSone, PS2, and so far the PS3 have been great too me....but again thats just me......everyone has their own taste.....
now know I wrote "read somewhere" a couple of times this post....but I'm too lazy right now to look up the links.......
and yall could put up the Colin Powell pic now......
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Afrikan said:
spot on...i can make a server between my pc and ps3 and still create hi def movies on the fly as well to play on it.. i know its expensive but i get my money's worth and thats what counts...
matt357 said:
You getting one arent ya? dont front at least you wont be bored
im kidding when you get one(cause we know you are) let me get your gamertag . anyways im off to go play the wii and test it out, a friend of mine brought it with him while we out here in dayton , ohio on some business. Yo Merced Ill give props when due, i havent officially played that motostorm but it was looking pretty tight while i was watching someone else play it.
trekei said:You getting one arent ya? dont front at least you wont be bored
Yo Merced Ill give props when due, i havent officially played that motostorm but it was looking pretty tight while i was watching someone else play it.
honestly i might for geow if anything but theres nothing else there i want to get ..I may just peep my neighbors
motorstorm is the truth (headed off to win a few races)
the demo don't hold a stick to it, it's night and day
merced hit me up I'll set up a server
wii sports is addicitve me and my gf play it all the time..be whipping my ass
You forget they were giving away free 46" HDTV's with those PS3's at one event. So even the biggest Sony hater would've gotten one for that and the free ride home. I would have and then I would've given the PS3 to someone who wanted it and took the HDTV. Shit it's a free HDTV!
Shit it's a free HDTV!
Afrikan said:
@ ThisIf Sony knows that you will pay $600 for their machine, especially when the majority of the games come out on both systems, you can guarantee that if they sell more than the 360 and Wii, the ps4 will cost more.
Just by buying the ps3 you let them know that you are willing to pay top dollar to play your precious video games. If you would have been "outraged" like the people in Japan when they first heard the price, Sony probably would have dropped the price from Jump like they did with them.
So don't get mad if the price is higher, because you contributed to it.
What Does TEAM NINJA SAY.....
Has it been difficult to develop for the PS3 overall?
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=107423
For us it's not a question of being easily to develop for, that's a relative term. When we first got our hands on the hardware it took us a while to get back into the flow of working with Sony, because they way they do things is a little different. The developers that say it's too hard to develop for and complain about it are missing the point. It sounds like an excuse to the consumer to us.--Yosuke Hayashi, director for Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PlayStation 3.
There are a lot of people out there that bought the PS3, and it's not a question of whether it's easy or hard. If your going to do a project you have to do the best you can. It's like if you bought a CD and it sounded bad and the singer said it was because the studio and the engineer were no good. Ultimately it's up to that person to make sure they have the quality that's needed. Look at what were able to do and the quality we are able to achieve and that speaks for it self. I think people will be satisfied with what we were able to do. If we can do it then other people will be able to do it as well.
Has it been difficult to develop for the PS3 overall?
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=107423
For us it's not a question of being easily to develop for, that's a relative term. When we first got our hands on the hardware it took us a while to get back into the flow of working with Sony, because they way they do things is a little different. The developers that say it's too hard to develop for and complain about it are missing the point. It sounds like an excuse to the consumer to us.--Yosuke Hayashi, director for Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PlayStation 3.
There are a lot of people out there that bought the PS3, and it's not a question of whether it's easy or hard. If your going to do a project you have to do the best you can. It's like if you bought a CD and it sounded bad and the singer said it was because the studio and the engineer were no good. Ultimately it's up to that person to make sure they have the quality that's needed. Look at what were able to do and the quality we are able to achieve and that speaks for it self. I think people will be satisfied with what we were able to do. If we can do it then other people will be able to do it as well.
Pretty much.Rebel-INS said:
If Sony knows that you will pay $600 for their machine, especially when the majority of the games come out on both systems, you can guarantee that if they sell more than the 360 and Wii, the ps4 will cost more.
Just by buying the ps3 you let them know that you are willing to pay top dollar to play your precious video games. If you would have been "outraged" like the people in Japan when they first heard the price, Sony probably would have dropped the price from Jump like they did with them.
So don't get mad if the price is higher, because you contributed to it.
More...More I Say
Namco Bandai Plans PS3 Arcade Board
Published: 31 minutes ago
Officials from Japanese publisher and arcade manufacturer Namco Bandai have announced that the company is developing a series of new arcade games which will use the Cell microprocessor, according to a new Reuters report.
The new arcade hardware will also use the same Nvidia designed RSX graphics chip as the PlayStation 3, which will make conversions between future arcade titles and the PlayStation 3 relatively easy.
Further details obtained by Japanese newspaper the Mainichi Daily News has revealed that Namco Bandai's Tekken 6, the latest iteration of its popular fighting game series, will be the first game to debut on the new hardware, due out later this year.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=13270
Namco Bandai Plans PS3 Arcade Board
Published: 31 minutes ago
Officials from Japanese publisher and arcade manufacturer Namco Bandai have announced that the company is developing a series of new arcade games which will use the Cell microprocessor, according to a new Reuters report.
The new arcade hardware will also use the same Nvidia designed RSX graphics chip as the PlayStation 3, which will make conversions between future arcade titles and the PlayStation 3 relatively easy.
Further details obtained by Japanese newspaper the Mainichi Daily News has revealed that Namco Bandai's Tekken 6, the latest iteration of its popular fighting game series, will be the first game to debut on the new hardware, due out later this year.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=13270
matt357 said:More...More I Say
Namco Bandai Plans PS3 Arcade Board
Published: 31 minutes ago
Officials from Japanese publisher and arcade manufacturer Namco Bandai have announced that the company is developing a series of new arcade games which will use the Cell microprocessor, according to a new Reuters report.
The new arcade hardware will also use the same Nvidia designed RSX graphics chip as the PlayStation 3, which will make conversions between future arcade titles and the PlayStation 3 relatively easy.
Further details obtained by Japanese newspaper the Mainichi Daily News has revealed that Namco Bandai's Tekken 6, the latest iteration of its popular fighting game series, will be the first game to debut on the new hardware, due out later this year.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=13270
As soon as i saw arcade board and namco i knew it was going to be the ps3. this sucks cause that just pretty much guarantees tekken exclusive which prob means no online and then prob soul calibur . Not good.
I WANT TEKKEN ONLINE , and i dont want to hear your virtua fighter propaganda rock!
Tekken not being online on a console is a disgrace.
Man, just give it up. You've own3d yourself and made a fool outta yourself in here with your rampant, mindless fanboyism. That EBGames shit you pulled was sad as fuck and proof of your sadness. You ain't gonna recover from that, man. Just stop it.matt357 said:oh you mean by you, gemni, lightbrite, Freaky, Rocky...never thought of it that way..STUPID
Rocky Miavia said:Man, just give it up. You've own3d yourself and made a fool outta yourself in here with your rampant, mindless fanboyism. That EBGames shit you pulled was sad as fuck and proof of your sadness. You ain't gonna recover from that, man. Just stop it.
go watch wrestling and asian porn
and wonder why chicks don't talk to you
and yet you and ya boys still coming at me..what does that make u?
besides a dumbass?
FOr real. That was not even close to being able to recover from. That was the true definition of self-ownage. He's mad nw and trying to save face, won't happen. I never post on nuetral game site forums, too many Sony lovers on there for me. I post on XBOX sites and only one for that matter and I use my gamer-tag. So your post trying to say it was me is complete bullshit and everyone saw it. Get a life loser it's not that serious.Rocky Miavia said:Man, just give it up. You've own3d yourself and made a fool outta yourself in here with your rampant, mindless fanboyism. That EBGames shit you pulled was sad as fuck and proof of your sadness. You ain't gonna recover from that, man. Just stop it.
freaky_1 said:
must be y
your still replying
trekei said:You getting one arent ya? dont front at least you wont be bored
Yo Merced Ill give props when due, i havent officially played that motostorm but it was looking pretty tight while i was watching someone else play it.
***comes out of retirement of pointless arugments***
thanx Trekei for the acknowledgement. thats all I've really ever asked for is for peeps to give props when they are due.
***goes back to avoid the haters before they say anything***
matt357 said:honestly i might for geow if anything but theres nothing else there i want to get ..I may just peep my neighbors
motorstorm is the truth (headed off to win a few races)
the demo don't hold a stick to it, it's night and day
merced hit me up I'll set up a server
wii sports is addicitve me and my gf play it all the time..be whipping my ass
for sure matt.
i'll try to get on tonite. just been busy as fuck.
MercedMike said:
hit me up
on there i'll set it up around 9ish EST
dips out before the xbox circle committee comes out .......(slips out back door)
Hey Sony, No Lying In South Africa!
No one will argue that the PLAYSTATION 3 is powerful. But more get up and go than a computer? A PS3 ad that appeared in South Africa stated:
The PS3 is built on the revolutionary cell-processor, which is 8 times more powerful than most computers... [and] RSX Graphics Technology — twice as powerful as the most advanced computer graphics engine available today.
Four South Africans actually disputed these remarks on the grounds that the advertising was misleading and that there was no proof to support these claims. What's more, the country's Advertising Standards Authority actually upheld these complaints and had the ads withdrawn. Now that's powerful. Brian Ashcraft
SA Has PS3 Ads Removed [My Broadband, Thanks Funky J!]
No one will argue that the PLAYSTATION 3 is powerful. But more get up and go than a computer? A PS3 ad that appeared in South Africa stated:
The PS3 is built on the revolutionary cell-processor, which is 8 times more powerful than most computers... [and] RSX Graphics Technology — twice as powerful as the most advanced computer graphics engine available today.
Four South Africans actually disputed these remarks on the grounds that the advertising was misleading and that there was no proof to support these claims. What's more, the country's Advertising Standards Authority actually upheld these complaints and had the ads withdrawn. Now that's powerful. Brian Ashcraft
SA Has PS3 Ads Removed [My Broadband, Thanks Funky J!]
No wonder they sold so many
March222007
London PS3 Launch Gives Out TVs to All
How's this for nice?
The BBC is reporting that everyone who purchased a PS3 at the London launch of the console received a free 46-inch HD television and a taxi ride home.
Holy!
That's About GBP 250,000 worth of televisions and cab rides to more than 100 gamers. The guy at the front of the line waited a whopping 36 hours.
So let me get this straight. Wait two days in the U.S. for a PS3 and you get a gut full of shot. Wait two days in the UK for a PS3 and you get a free cab ride and television.
OK, no more whining about how you guys had to wait longer.
March222007
London PS3 Launch Gives Out TVs to All
How's this for nice?
The BBC is reporting that everyone who purchased a PS3 at the London launch of the console received a free 46-inch HD television and a taxi ride home.
Holy!
That's About GBP 250,000 worth of televisions and cab rides to more than 100 gamers. The guy at the front of the line waited a whopping 36 hours.
So let me get this straight. Wait two days in the U.S. for a PS3 and you get a gut full of shot. Wait two days in the UK for a PS3 and you get a free cab ride and television.
OK, no more whining about how you guys had to wait longer.
Sigma: Constant 60 FPS, 1080P & Real Time Self-Shadowing..."Never Been Done"
In a Q&A interview with Team Ninja game dev Yosuke Hayashi he states the following in response to a question ask to him by Gamepro.
GamePro: Can you talk about the overall graphics and what people can expect technically from Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PS3?
Yosuke: It's not so much that we brought the game over to the PS3 as it is we more or less are recreating Ninja Gaiden with the most up-to-date graphic techniques in order to take advantage of the hardware. In order to have this be a great experience for both people who are new to the series as well as those who've enjoyed it since the beginning, we want to provide an experience that looks totally new and fresh. One of the best ways to do that was to have a game that runs at a 1080p with a constant 60 fps, and utilizes real-time self-shadowing. No other game as accomplished all three of these goals at once.
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=107423
In a Q&A interview with Team Ninja game dev Yosuke Hayashi he states the following in response to a question ask to him by Gamepro.
GamePro: Can you talk about the overall graphics and what people can expect technically from Ninja Gaiden Sigma on the PS3?
Yosuke: It's not so much that we brought the game over to the PS3 as it is we more or less are recreating Ninja Gaiden with the most up-to-date graphic techniques in order to take advantage of the hardware. In order to have this be a great experience for both people who are new to the series as well as those who've enjoyed it since the beginning, we want to provide an experience that looks totally new and fresh. One of the best ways to do that was to have a game that runs at a 1080p with a constant 60 fps, and utilizes real-time self-shadowing. No other game as accomplished all three of these goals at once.
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=107423
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