Atty General Gonzales Should Resign

Makkonnen · Apr 2, 2007

actinanass said:
destruction*

You missed the point that I was making, but its ok. Saddam is known for funding suicide bomber's families in Palestine. Perhaps he isn't directly supporting Al Queda, but who to say that some of his followers were. So I guess you want the "smoking gun" right?

Mr Cheney is that you?

How about this, LETS STOP ARGUING ABOUT PAST SHIT?

Funny, you are the one who keeps bringing up the past. :lol:

How about us winning this thing so our troops can come home?

How about bringing our troops home so the troops can come home?

*edits* Bush never said that Saddam had a hand in 9-11. He said that Iraq was a threat due to wmd's *in which they did find some, however the media downplayed it*.

He and Cheney did say it multiple times

actinanass · Apr 2, 2007

Makkonnen said:
Mr Cheney is that you?

Funny, you are the one who keeps bringing up the past.

How about bringing our troops home so the troops can come home?

He and Cheney did say it multiple times

Yea it is funny that I bring up the past, especially when it concerns CLINTON. However, I really meant that we need to be consistent about bringing up the past on BOTH sides. Sorry if it seemed like I was contradicting myself. I just want consistency on all fronts.

If I'm Cheney, then you are Pelosi... *at least I'll shoot someone...*

How about TRYING TO WIN A WAR, and quit bitching about why we are there? The point of the matter is, WE ARE THERE, and if we leave without establishing a somewhat solid government in Iraq, we more than likely will have to go back.

Here's my thing, if bush outright LIED about Iraq, why are the democrats scared to cut the funding? You say that they don't care, however they claim that majority of the American people want this war to end. So, why not END it?

muckraker10021 · Apr 3, 2007

QueEx said:
<center>Bush's long history of politicizing justice
It's not only the U.S. attorneys who are threatened
by partisan politics. Since Day One, the Bush administration
has been quietly dismantling the DOJ's Civil Rights Division.</center>

By Alia Malek
Salon
March 30, 2007

.........A principal witness at Thursday's hearings was Joe Rich, a 37-year veteran of the division and former chief of the Voting Rights Section, who left in 2005. In his testimony, Rich charged that under the Bush Administration, "the essential work of the division to protect the civil rights of all Americans is not getting done." He also said that the connection between the current prosecutors scandal and what happened to the division should not be minimized, telling senators, "The political decision-making process that led to the questionable dismissal of eight United States attorneys was standard practice in the Civil Rights Division years before these recent revelations."

The Civil Rights Division was established in 1957 by an act of Congress, with the mandate to enforce the nation's few federal civil rights statutes. With the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and 1965 Voting Rights Act, the division suddenly had a lot more work to do. Since 1957 and before the election of George W. Bush, there had been four Democratic and four Republican presidential administrations (counting Nixon-Ford as one).

The division is composed of 11 "sections," eight of which do litigation: Housing and Civil Enforcement, Employment, Education, Disability, Special Litigation, Criminal, Appellate and Voting Rights. The division's 700 employees, half of them lawyers, are spread out across several buildings in Washington. Long gone are the days when the whole Department of Justice and the FBI could fit into the art deco building on Pennsylvania Avenue known as Main Justice.

The leadership of the division -- known as the Front Office -- has always been appointed by the president. Most of those appointees have not been experts in civil rights law, says Brian K. Landsberg, a former division section chief and the author of "Enforcing Civil Rights: Race Discrimination and the Department of Justice." That lack of expertise was compensated for by the core of the division, its career attorneys who have the sophisticated understanding of the law that civil rights enforcement requires, says Landsberg, now a law professor at the University of the Pacific. "Even if the political appointees did have that expertise, there aren't enough of them to do the background work." In addition to career attorneys providing the political appointees the expertise they might lack, the dialogue, partnership and mutual respect between the two have been credited with keeping the division above the partisan fray.

The Bush administration's actions over the past six years seem almost prima facie evidence that it does view civil rights enforcement -- which had traditionally been on behalf of African-Americans, women and other racial, ethnic and religious minorities -- as a partisan matter. In perhaps a case of projection, it seems to have also expected career people to abuse their power on behalf of partisan goals.

Thus the administration sought to recast the division in its own image, by minimizing outside input, getting rid of career people and hiring loyal Bushies.................
http://salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/30/civil_rights/

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<img src="http://www.quibbles-n-bits.com/archives/bomber/kkk.gif" border="0" height="49" width="50">Anybody surprised at what the RepubliKlan <img src="http://www.smirkingchimp.com/images/topics/republicans.jpg"> under the orders of Cheney-Rove-bush was ordering their butt-boy Gonzales to do at the US Justice Department????


<img src="http://www.quibbles-n-bits.com/archives/bomber/kkk.gif" border="0" height="49" width="50"> The RepubliKlan Party is. 

• Unapologetically Racist
• Homophobic
• Anti-Sex Education
• Anti- Immigrant
• Anti- Minimum Wage
• Anti-Abortion Rights
• Anti-Consumer Protection (pro-tort reform)
• Anti-Social Security Insurance
• Anti- Environmental Conservation Laws
• Anti-Progressive Taxation
• Anti-Banning the Death Penalty
• Anti-Feminism
• Anti-Affirmative Action
• Anti-Small Business Administration
• Anti-Substantially Increasing Foreign Aid
• Anti-Government Student College Tuition Grants
• Anti-ANY Gun Control
• Anti- Non-Christian Religion Tolerance 

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Bush's Long History of Tilting Justice
The administration began skewing federal law enforcement before the current U.S. attorney scandal, says a former Department of Justice lawyer

by Joseph D. Rich

JOSEPH D. RICH was chief of the voting section in the Justice Department's civil right division
from 1999 to 2005. He now works for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rich29mar29,0,3371050.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail

March 29, 2007

THE SCANDAL unfolding around the firing of eight U.S. attorneys compels the conclusion that the Bush administration has rewarded loyalty over all else. A destructive pattern of partisan political actions at the Justice Department started long before this incident, however, as those of us who worked in its civil rights division can attest.

I spent more than 35 years in the department enforcing federal civil rights laws — particularly voting rights. Before leaving in 2005, I worked for attorneys general with dramatically different political philosophies — from John Mitchell to Ed Meese to Janet Reno. Regardless of the administration, the political appointees had respect for the experience and judgment of longtime civil servants.

Under the Bush administration, however, all that changed. Over the last six years, this Justice Department has ignored the advice of its staff and skewed aspects of law enforcement in ways that clearly were intended to influence the outcome of elections.

It has notably shirked its legal responsibility to protect voting rights. From 2001 to 2006, no voting discrimination cases were brought on behalf of African American or Native American voters. U.S. attorneys were told instead to give priority to voter fraud cases, which, when coupled with the strong support for voter ID laws, indicated an intent to depress voter turnout in minority and poor communities.

At least two of the recently fired U.S. attorneys, John McKay in Seattle and David C. Iglesias in New Mexico, were targeted largely because they refused to prosecute voting fraud cases that implicated Democrats or voters likely to vote for Democrats.

This pattern also extended to hiring. In March 2006, Bradley Schlozman was appointed interim U.S. attorney in Kansas City, Mo. Two weeks earlier, the administration was granted the authority to make such indefinite appointments without Senate confirmation. That was too bad: A Senate hearing might have uncovered Schlozman's central role in politicizing the civil rights division during his three-year tenure.

Schlozman, for instance, was part of the team of political appointees that approved then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's plan to redraw congressional districts in Texas, which in 2004 increased the number of Republicans elected to the House. Similarly, Schlozman was acting assistant attorney general in charge of the division when the Justice Department OKd a Georgia law requiring voters to show photo IDs at the polls. These decisions went against the recommendations of career staff, who asserted that such rulings discriminated against minority voters. The warnings were prescient: Both proposals were struck down by federal courts.

Schlozman continued to influence elections as an interim U.S. attorney. Missouri had one of the closest Senate races in the country last November, and a week before the election, Schlozman brought four voter fraud indictments against members of an organization representing poor and minority people. This blatantly contradicted the department's long-standing policy to wait until after an election to bring such indictments because a federal criminal investigation might affect the outcome of the vote. The timing of the Missouri indictments could not have made the administration's aims more transparent.

This administration is also politicizing the career staff of the Justice Department. Outright hostility to career employees who disagreed with the political appointees was evident early on. Seven career managers were removed in the civil rights division. I personally was ordered to change performance evaluations of several attorneys under my supervision. I was told to include critical comments about those whose recommendations ran counter to the political will of the administration and to improve evaluations of those who were politically favored.

Morale plummeted, resulting in an alarming exodus of career attorneys. In the last two years, 55% to 60% of attorneys in the voting section have transferred to other departments or left the Justice Department entirely.

At the same time, career staff were nearly cut out of the process of hiring lawyers. Control of hiring went to political appointees, so an applicant's fidelity to GOP interests replaced civil rights experience as the most important factor in hiring decisions.

For decades prior to this administration, the Justice Department had successfully kept politics out of its law enforcement decisions. Hopefully, the spotlight on this misconduct will begin the process of restoring dignity and nonpartisanship to federal law enforcement. As the 2008 elections approach, it is critical to have a Justice Department that approaches its responsibility to all eligible voters without favor.
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actinanass · Apr 3, 2007

muckraker10021 said:
http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/1237/Bush_Finger.gif



<img src="http://www.quibbles-n-bits.com/archives/bomber/kkk.gif" border="0" height="49" width="50">Anybody surprised at what the RepubliKlan <img src="http://www.smirkingchimp.com/images/topics/republicans.jpg"> under the orders of Cheney-Rove-bush was ordering their butt-boy Gonzales to do at the US Justice Department????


<img src="http://www.quibbles-n-bits.com/archives/bomber/kkk.gif" border="0" height="49" width="50"> The RepubliKlan Party is. 

• Unapologetically Racist
• Homophobic
• Anti-Sex Education
• Anti- Immigrant
• Anti- Minimum Wage
• Anti-Abortion Rights
• Anti-Consumer Protection (pro-tort reform)
• Anti-Social Security Insurance
• Anti- Environmental Conservation Laws
• Anti-Progressive Taxation
• Anti-Banning the Death Penalty
• Anti-Feminism
• Anti-Affirmative Action
• Anti-Small Business Administration
• Anti-Substantially Increasing Foreign Aid
• Anti-Government Student College Tuition Grants
• Anti-ANY Gun Control
• Anti- Non-Christian Religion Tolerance 

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<table border="1" width="600" id="table1" bgcolor="#375D9C" cellspacing="1" height="100">
<tr><td><img src="http://www.latimes.com/images/standard/latimeslogo.gif"></td>
</tr></table>

Bush's Long History of Tilting Justice
The administration began skewing federal law enforcement before the current U.S. attorney scandal, says a former Department of Justice lawyer

by Joseph D. Rich

JOSEPH D. RICH was chief of the voting section in the Justice Department's civil right division
from 1999 to 2005. He now works for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rich29mar29,0,3371050.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail

March 29, 2007

THE SCANDAL unfolding around the firing of eight U.S. attorneys compels the conclusion that the Bush administration has rewarded loyalty over all else. A destructive pattern of partisan political actions at the Justice Department started long before this incident, however, as those of us who worked in its civil rights division can attest.

I spent more than 35 years in the department enforcing federal civil rights laws — particularly voting rights. Before leaving in 2005, I worked for attorneys general with dramatically different political philosophies — from John Mitchell to Ed Meese to Janet Reno. Regardless of the administration, the political appointees had respect for the experience and judgment of longtime civil servants.

Under the Bush administration, however, all that changed. Over the last six years, this Justice Department has ignored the advice of its staff and skewed aspects of law enforcement in ways that clearly were intended to influence the outcome of elections.

It has notably shirked its legal responsibility to protect voting rights. From 2001 to 2006, no voting discrimination cases were brought on behalf of African American or Native American voters. U.S. attorneys were told instead to give priority to voter fraud cases, which, when coupled with the strong support for voter ID laws, indicated an intent to depress voter turnout in minority and poor communities.

At least two of the recently fired U.S. attorneys, John McKay in Seattle and David C. Iglesias in New Mexico, were targeted largely because they refused to prosecute voting fraud cases that implicated Democrats or voters likely to vote for Democrats.

This pattern also extended to hiring. In March 2006, Bradley Schlozman was appointed interim U.S. attorney in Kansas City, Mo. Two weeks earlier, the administration was granted the authority to make such indefinite appointments without Senate confirmation. That was too bad: A Senate hearing might have uncovered Schlozman's central role in politicizing the civil rights division during his three-year tenure.

Schlozman, for instance, was part of the team of political appointees that approved then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's plan to redraw congressional districts in Texas, which in 2004 increased the number of Republicans elected to the House. Similarly, Schlozman was acting assistant attorney general in charge of the division when the Justice Department OKd a Georgia law requiring voters to show photo IDs at the polls. These decisions went against the recommendations of career staff, who asserted that such rulings discriminated against minority voters. The warnings were prescient: Both proposals were struck down by federal courts.

Schlozman continued to influence elections as an interim U.S. attorney. Missouri had one of the closest Senate races in the country last November, and a week before the election, Schlozman brought four voter fraud indictments against members of an organization representing poor and minority people. This blatantly contradicted the department's long-standing policy to wait until after an election to bring such indictments because a federal criminal investigation might affect the outcome of the vote. The timing of the Missouri indictments could not have made the administration's aims more transparent.

This administration is also politicizing the career staff of the Justice Department. Outright hostility to career employees who disagreed with the political appointees was evident early on. Seven career managers were removed in the civil rights division. I personally was ordered to change performance evaluations of several attorneys under my supervision. I was told to include critical comments about those whose recommendations ran counter to the political will of the administration and to improve evaluations of those who were politically favored.

Morale plummeted, resulting in an alarming exodus of career attorneys. In the last two years, 55% to 60% of attorneys in the voting section have transferred to other departments or left the Justice Department entirely.

At the same time, career staff were nearly cut out of the process of hiring lawyers. Control of hiring went to political appointees, so an applicant's fidelity to GOP interests replaced civil rights experience as the most important factor in hiring decisions.

For decades prior to this administration, the Justice Department had successfully kept politics out of its law enforcement decisions. Hopefully, the spotlight on this misconduct will begin the process of restoring dignity and nonpartisanship to federal law enforcement. As the 2008 elections approach, it is critical to have a Justice Department that approaches its responsibility to all eligible voters without favor.
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Lol@ this propaganda

I wonder if you actually go listen to the other side sometimes. All this "anti" this and "anti" that, but just think if everything was "pro" this instead. Would this be a better country?

Gay marriage is a scam.

I don't care about Affirmative Action.

I own a gun.

Feminism is the reason why black families are in a disarray.

How could the republicans be against small business if the tax cuts went STR8 to the small business owners. *I know because my grandfather own a cleaners in my hood, and he got hooked up during tax time*

Because Republicans cut some school grants do not mean that they are against government grants. The goal on the republican party is to keep taxes low. Would you rather pay $8 for a happy meal for your kids to pay some slacker way through college...?

Minimum wage is a scam. Minimum wage is for "start off jobs". Talking about anti small business, THIS WILL HURT SMALL BUSINESS MORE.

I wish before liberals talk about what conservatives do, go listen to the other side WITH AN OPEN MIND. Maybe you will understand how things actually work.

QueEx · Apr 6, 2007

Yo actinanass,

whats this propaganda I'm hearing that Monica Goodling is resigning ???

QueEx

QueEx · Apr 6, 2007

WHILE THE HEAT ON GONZALES SEEMS TO BE COOLING OFF l

<center>
Justice Department In New Fight
Over Papers on Firings</center>

Washington Post
By Paul Kane
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Friday, April 6, 2007; Page A04

The Justice Department is refusing to release hundreds of pages of additional documents related to the firings of eight U.S. attorneys, setting up a fresh clash with Capitol Hill in a controversy that continues to threaten Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales's hold on his position.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, whose investigators have been allowed to view, but not obtain copies of, the records in question, is preparing subpoenas for those papers as well as for all e-mails or documents from the Justice Department and the White House connected to the dismissals of the prosecutors.

The new sparring comes as Senate Democrats postponed a long-planned budgetary appearance by Gonzales that had been scheduled for next week. Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski (Md.), chairman of the Appropriations Committee panel overseeing the Justice Department budget, blamed Gonzales's "leadership failures" yesterday for the postponement and demanded that the prosecutor controversy be settled before he makes his plea for a budget increase.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) reiterated yesterday his call for Gonzales to resign and questioned whether the controversy had made it impossible for the attorney general to handle his day-to-day duties. "He cannot talk about the funding and functioning of the Justice Department until he clears the air on U.S. attorneys," Schumer said.

"Senator Leahy can certainly understand why Senator Mikulski did not want the attorney general to turn an important appropriations hearing on the department's budget priorities into a trial run for his appearance before the Judiciary Committee," said Tracy Schmaler, a spokeswoman for Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.).

The move to call off the budget hearing makes Gonzales's scheduled April 17 appearance before the judiciary panel even more of a make-or-break moment for Gonzales.

Brian Roehrkasse, a Justice Department spokesman, called Mikulski's decision "regrettable" and said the attorney general should be able to make his budget pitch for an agency that helps "protect the nation from terrorism and violent crime."

But trust in Gonzales among Capitol Hill Democrats has evaporated amid revelations from the almost 4,000 pages of documents the Justice Department has released to date, some of which have contradicted a string of statements from the attorney general about the dismissals. Gonzales first told the Judiciary Committee, during a hearing 11 weeks ago, that there was no intent to avoid Senate confirmation for the replacements of the fired prosecutors.

He made similar remarks to Leahy and other senators at a private meeting in the Capitol early last month.

And at a March 13 news conference, Gonzales declared that he had been part of "no discussions" about the firings, casting the blame on his chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson, who has since resigned.

But Sampson testified last week that Gonzales's statements were "not accurate" and that the attorney general was, in fact, regularly briefed about the evolving two-year plan to oust the prosecutors. Sampson also noted that Gonzales was aware of a staff-level idea to avoid Senate confirmation for the replacements.

Senate Democrats now want all Justice Department documents related to the firings, including the previously unreleased ones deemed too sensitive for release by the agency. Democratic investigators were upset to learn about the additional batch of records in recent visits to the department, according to a Senate aide who requested anonymity to talk freely about the standoff.

The aide said the Senate Judiciary Committee "has lodged objections several times" about not being given the new documents. They were discovered over the past two weeks as staff investigators for the House and Senate judiciary panels, working in a special office inside the Justice Department, reviewed the censored portions of e-mails and other records that had already been sent to Capitol Hill in redacted form, according to Justice Department and Senate aides.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/05/AR2007040502374.html?hpid=topnews

muckraker10021 · Apr 7, 2007

actinanass said:
Lol@ this propaganda

The dramatic paucity of comprehension you display regarding elementary truths, authenticates that your fealty to republiklan dogma has defiled your reality, and you have become nothing more than a chimerical automaton.

This is a sad but not unique condition. Thousands of current and upcoming republiklan acolytes willfully choose this path. They consciously attend universities that DON'T teach peer reviewed science, DON'T teach modern literature, DON'T teach philosophy, DON'T teach modern psychology.

These schools DO teach an American History where George Washington, who was a mason is depicted as a Christian fundamentalist, they DO teach an American History where the chattel slavery of Africans is justified as biblically legitimate.

Where do graduates of such universities find employment????

They are highly sought out by and hired by RepubliKlan senators and RepubliKlan members of congress.

They are working for butt-boy Gonzales at the US Justice department. 
(The Gonzales staffer Monica Goodling who is taking the 5th amendment rather than testify under oath is a graduate of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School, and her undergraduate university was Messiah college)

They are also working in the White House working for Karl Rove, Darth Cheney, and baby bush! Are you surprised?? You shouldn't. Who else besides willfully brain dead sycophants would fully support RepubliKlan talking points such as "Intelligent Design" & "There is no-such-thing as global warming."

You can read all about these 'university graduates???????' in the article linked below.
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/06/27/050627fa_fact?currentPage=1

You are more pitiable than the dolts, like Monica Goodling, who have lived their entire lives in a bubble drinking the toxic American Theocracy RepubliKlan kool-aid. As a loyal brainwashed brownnoser at least she got a job and a paycheck. What do you get for you slavish adherence to the RepubliKlan?????????????


Now let's quickly smack down your imagined reality, with empirical "reality based" data, in no particular order.

1. The SBA (Small Business Association) under "the bush crime family" has had its budget cut 40% from $1.1 billion+ per year under the Clinton administration to the $624 million per year it currently receives. In fact "the bush crime family" has tried every year to cut the SBA even more but even a Tom Delay bossed RepubliKlan majority congress wouldn't go for it. To put the paltry $624 million per year into perspective realize that "the bush crime family" is burning 2 BILLION DOLLARS PER WEEK on this Iraq occupation. 2 Billion per week!!!!!!

2. FEMINISM - Black women have been feminist centuries before the word "feminist" had a definition. From before Queen Nzinga to today, Black women have kept African people alive. I took the train to Yankee Stadium earlier this week for the season opener. The train that pulled into the station was being driven by a Black women, the conductor who opened the doors was a Black women, as I entered the train the two police officers who were on patrol were Black women. No, feminism hasn't hurt Black men, institutionalized racism has. If you want a society where women are second & third class citizens you need look no further than most of the theocratic Arab-Persian -North African world. The men who run those countries are fools. They have taken at least 50% of their potential intellectual capital ( their woman) and condemned them to domestic-housewife-harem status.

3. GUNS- The RepubliKlan is against ANY GUN CONTROL, ANY AT ALL.
I have no problem will legal licensed guns. I own registered hand guns, I use them for target shooting. I do have a problem with someone being able to go into any Southern State and in a matter of days purchase crates full of fully automatic military assault rifles with only a bogus cursory background check. On the receipt for the machine guns it will say "hunting rifles". The RepubliKlan has no problem with this. I do.

4. MINIMUM WAGE - without a minimum wage and overtime pay laws you have slavery. It is a simple as that. If you are over the age of 18 and have completed at least a GED you understand this. Look down at your feet. If you are wearing shoes or sneakers they weren't made in the US. Are you wearing sneakers? They were made by a young women in Indonesia, China, Philaphines, Vietnam, Myramar who work 6 days a week, 12-14 hours a day for 20 -50 cents per hour. Here in the US the RepubliKlan talking point, that those earning the minimum wage are just teenagers and entry level workers is a LIE. You see the RepubliKlan talking point creators know that their dumb followers are too stupid, lazy and ignorant to go check the statistics to see if their "Dear Leaders" are liars. They know that the 28% who still swallow their shit listen to Rush, Hannity, Savage, and Beck for their information. For those of us in the "reality based community" we still believe in those stubborn empirical facts. Here are the actual statistics about minimum wage workers compiled by career government employees at The Department of labor for "the bush crime family". If you are too lazy to look at the spread sheets, here are the key numbers - 58% of men earning the minimum wage were between the age of 25- 54 years old and 64% of woman earning the minimum wage were between the age of 25- 54 years old. Here is the link below, look at the numbers , you don't need my MBA or wall street career to add up the 'official' government statistics.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR BUREAU OF LABOR -Statistics Table 7. -Employed wage and salary workers paid hourly rates with earnings at or below the prevailing Federal minimum wage by age and sex, 2002 annual averages

5. GAY MARRIAGE- Gay people deserve the same opportunity to FAIL at marriage as heterosexual couples. Slightly more that 1 out of 2 heterosexual marriages fail. In the Black community that number is higher. In many European countries gay marriage has been legal since the early 1960's; guess what?, the institution of heterosexual marriage was not destroyed.

6. FEDERAL EDUCATION FUNDING - Federal education funding has been cut drastically by "the bush crime family" and interest rates on federal student loans have been raised. If you can't figure out why this is severely detrimental to the US read my post in this thread http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=163499

7. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION - American Apartheid, white supremacy, was such an integral, normal part of the American status quo, that without affirmative action, Black lawyers, MBA's, PhD's would still be working in the post office as they were in the 1940's -1950's. Affirmative action as it relates to employment simply says that employers are mandated to look at and consider ALL QUALIFIED CANDIDATES when staffing a position. And they have to prove that they made that effort. These laws have resulted in qualified Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and white women entering the fortune 1000 companies. Prior to these laws many of the nations largest firms (IBM, Texaco, E.F. Hutton, etc.) were lily-white. Affirmative action as it relates to college entrance is an entirely different topic that I won't comment on here.

And let's see what J.C. Watts' father had to say about Republicans and the Republican Party. He said ... "A black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders."



 
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actinanass · Apr 7, 2007

muckraker10021 said:


The dramatic paucity of comprehension you display regarding elementary truths, authenticates that your fealty to republiklan dogma has defiled your reality, and you have become nothing more than a chimerical automaton.

This is a sad but not unique condition. Thousands of current and upcoming republiklan acolytes willfully choose this path. They consciously attend universities that DON'T teach peer reviewed science, DON'T teach modern literature, DON'T teach philosophy, DON'T teach modern psychology.

These schools DO teach an American History where George Washington, who was a mason is depicted as a Christian fundamentalist, they DO teach an American History where the chattel slavery of Africans is justified as biblically legitimate.

Where do graduates of such universities find employment????

They are highly sought out by and hired by RepubliKlan senators and RepubliKlan members of congress.

They are working for butt-boy Gonzales at the US Justice department. 
(The Gonzales staffer Monica Goodling who is taking the 5th amendment rather than testify under oath is a graduate of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School, and her undergraduate university was Messiah college)

They are also working in the White House working for Karl Rove, Darth Cheney, and baby bush! Are you surprised?? You shouldn't. Who else besides willfully brain dead sycophants would fully support RepubliKlan talking points such as "Intelligent Design" & "There is no-such-thing as global warming."

You can read all about these 'university graduates???????' in the article linked below.
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/06/27/050627fa_fact?currentPage=1

You are more pitiable than the dolts, like Monica Goodling, who have lived their entire lives in a bubble drinking the toxic American Theocracy RepubliKlan kool-aid. As a loyal brainwashed brownnoser at least she got a job and a paycheck. What do you get for you slavish adherence to the RepubliKlan?????????????


Now let's quickly smack down your imagined reality, with empirical "reality based" data, in no particular order.

1. The SBA (Small Business Association) under "the bush crime family" has had its budget cut 40% from $1.1 billion+ per year under the Clinton administration to the $624 million per year it currently receives. In fact "the bush crime family" has tried every year to cut the SBA even more but even a Tom Delay bossed RepubliKlan majority congress wouldn't go for it. To put the paltry $624 million per year into perspective realize that "the bush crime family" is burning 2 BILLION DOLLARS PER WEEK on this Iraq occupation. 2 Billion per week!!!!!!

2. FEMINISM - Black women have been feminist centuries before the word "feminist" had a definition. From before Queen Nzinga to today, Black women have kept African people alive. I took the train to Yankee Stadium earlier this week for the season opener. The train that pulled into the station was being driven by a Black women, the conductor who opened the doors was a Black women, as I entered the train the two police officers who were on patrol were Black women. No, feminism hasn't hurt Black men, institutionalized racism has. If you want a society where women are second & third class citizens you need look no further than most of the theocratic Arab-Persian -North African world. The men who run those countries are fools. They have taken at least 50% of their potential intellectual capital ( their woman) and condemned them to domestic-housewife-harem status.

3. GUNS- The RepubliKlan is against ANY GUN CONTROL, ANY AT ALL.
I have no problem will legal licensed guns. I own registered hand guns, I use them for target shooting. I do have a problem with someone being able to go into any Southern State and in a matter of days purchase crates full of fully automatic military assault rifles with only a bogus cursory background check. On the receipt for the machine guns it will say "hunting rifles". The RepubliKlan has no problem with this. I do.

4. MINIMUM WAGE - without a minimum wage and overtime pay laws you have slavery. It is a simple as that. If you are over the age of 18 and have completed at least a GED you understand this. Look down at your feet. If you are wearing shoes or sneakers they weren't made in the US. Are you wearing sneakers? They were made by a young women in Indonesia, China, Philaphines, Vietnam, Myramar who work 6 days a week, 12-14 hours a day for 20 -50 cents per hour. Here in the US the RepubliKlan talking point, that those earning the minimum wage are just teenagers and entry level workers is a LIE. You see the RepubliKlan talking point creators know that their dumb followers are too stupid, lazy and ignorant to go check the statistics to see if their "Dear Leaders" are liars. They know that the 28% who still swallow their shit listen to Rush, Hannity, Savage, and Beck for their information. For those of us in the "reality based community" we still believe in those stubborn empirical facts. Here are the actual statistics about minimum wage workers compiled by career government employees at The Department of labor for "the bush crime family". If you are too lazy to look at the spread sheets, here are the key numbers - 58% of men earning the minimum wage were between the age of 25- 54 years old and 64% of woman earning the minimum wage were between the age of 25- 54 years old. Here is the link below, look at the numbers , you don't need my MBA or wall street career to add up the 'official' government statistics.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR BUREAU OF LABOR -Statistics Table 7. -Employed wage and salary workers paid hourly rates with earnings at or below the prevailing Federal minimum wage by age and sex, 2002 annual averages

5. GAY MARRIAGE- Gay people deserve the same opportunity to FAIL at marriage as heterosexual couples. Slightly more that 1 out of 2 heterosexual marriages fail. In the Black community that number is higher. In many European countries gay marriage has been legal since the early 1960's; guess what?, the institution of heterosexual marriage was not destroyed.

6. FEDERAL EDUCATION FUNDING - Federal education funding has been cut drastically by "the bush crime family" and interest rates on federal student loans have been raised. If you can't figure out why this is severely detrimental to the US read my post in this thread http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=163499

7. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION - American Apartheid, white supremacy, was such an integral, normal part of the American status quo, that without affirmative action, Black lawyers, MBA's, PhD's would still be working in the post office as they were in the 1940's -1950's. Affirmative action as it relates to employment simply says that employers are mandated to look at and consider ALL QUALIFIED CANDIDATES when staffing a position. And they have to prove that they made that effort. These laws have resulted in qualified Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and white women entering the fortune 1000 companies. Prior to these laws many of the nations largest firms (IBM, Texaco, E.F. Hutton, etc.) were lily-white. Affirmative action as it relates to college entrance is an entirely different topic that I won't comment on here.

And let's see what J.C. Watts' father had to say about Republicans and the Republican Party. He said ... "A black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders."



 
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for one, I went to college, and was a journalism major. I had every type of class YOU claim many "conservatives" don't take.

Think about this, how long has our people followed the Democrats, and actually PROGRESS under their followship? Do you see any BROKE black republicans? Another thing, please don't think I'm a str8 republican, or anything. However, to act like the republicans are the only ones who act racist, homophobic, and snobbish is just plain ludicrous.

This is propaganda because you do not offer the REASON of such actions the republicans take. You are not being balance in your beliefs, therefore, you seem like a blind activist. BTW, the only reason I really don't feel the democrats is the fact that the ones I DO LIKE, they don't want them to have any power. I would support a Senator like Harold Ford Jr, but look how they did him. I would support Liberman, and look they drove him out of the senate *as a democrat*. This party is too left for me. I don't agree with global warming, I can't stand gay marriage *its a scam*, and I hate any type of gun control. The gun don't kill anyone, its the PERSON. I guess the democratic party do not want the independent vote during the 08 elections...

actinanass · Apr 7, 2007

muckraker10021 said:


The dramatic paucity of comprehension you display regarding elementary truths, authenticates that your fealty to republiklan dogma has defiled your reality, and you have become nothing more than a chimerical automaton.

This is a sad but not unique condition. Thousands of current and upcoming republiklan acolytes willfully choose this path. They consciously attend universities that DON'T teach peer reviewed science, DON'T teach modern literature, DON'T teach philosophy, DON'T teach modern psychology.

These schools DO teach an American History where George Washington, who was a mason is depicted as a Christian fundamentalist, they DO teach an American History where the chattel slavery of Africans is justified as biblically legitimate.

Where do graduates of such universities find employment????

They are highly sought out by and hired by RepubliKlan senators and RepubliKlan members of congress.

They are working for butt-boy Gonzales at the US Justice department. 
(The Gonzales staffer Monica Goodling who is taking the 5th amendment rather than testify under oath is a graduate of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School, and her undergraduate university was Messiah college)

They are also working in the White House working for Karl Rove, Darth Cheney, and baby bush! Are you surprised?? You shouldn't. Who else besides willfully brain dead sycophants would fully support RepubliKlan talking points such as "Intelligent Design" & "There is no-such-thing as global warming."

You can read all about these 'university graduates???????' in the article linked below.
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/06/27/050627fa_fact?currentPage=1

You are more pitiable than the dolts, like Monica Goodling, who have lived their entire lives in a bubble drinking the toxic American Theocracy RepubliKlan kool-aid. As a loyal brainwashed brownnoser at least she got a job and a paycheck. What do you get for you slavish adherence to the RepubliKlan?????????????


Now let's quickly smack down your imagined reality, with empirical "reality based" data, in no particular order.

1. The SBA (Small Business Association) under "the bush crime family" has had its budget cut 40% from $1.1 billion+ per year under the Clinton administration to the $624 million per year it currently receives. In fact "the bush crime family" has tried every year to cut the SBA even more but even a Tom Delay bossed RepubliKlan majority congress wouldn't go for it. To put the paltry $624 million per year into perspective realize that "the bush crime family" is burning 2 BILLION DOLLARS PER WEEK on this Iraq occupation. 2 Billion per week!!!!!!

2. FEMINISM - Black women have been feminist centuries before the word "feminist" had a definition. From before Queen Nzinga to today, Black women have kept African people alive. I took the train to Yankee Stadium earlier this week for the season opener. The train that pulled into the station was being driven by a Black women, the conductor who opened the doors was a Black women, as I entered the train the two police officers who were on patrol were Black women. No, feminism hasn't hurt Black men, institutionalized racism has. If you want a society where women are second & third class citizens you need look no further than most of the theocratic Arab-Persian -North African world. The men who run those countries are fools. They have taken at least 50% of their potential intellectual capital ( their woman) and condemned them to domestic-housewife-harem status.

3. GUNS- The RepubliKlan is against ANY GUN CONTROL, ANY AT ALL.
I have no problem will legal licensed guns. I own registered hand guns, I use them for target shooting. I do have a problem with someone being able to go into any Southern State and in a matter of days purchase crates full of fully automatic military assault rifles with only a bogus cursory background check. On the receipt for the machine guns it will say "hunting rifles". The RepubliKlan has no problem with this. I do.

4. MINIMUM WAGE - without a minimum wage and overtime pay laws you have slavery. It is a simple as that. If you are over the age of 18 and have completed at least a GED you understand this. Look down at your feet. If you are wearing shoes or sneakers they weren't made in the US. Are you wearing sneakers? They were made by a young women in Indonesia, China, Philaphines, Vietnam, Myramar who work 6 days a week, 12-14 hours a day for 20 -50 cents per hour. Here in the US the RepubliKlan talking point, that those earning the minimum wage are just teenagers and entry level workers is a LIE. You see the RepubliKlan talking point creators know that their dumb followers are too stupid, lazy and ignorant to go check the statistics to see if their "Dear Leaders" are liars. They know that the 28% who still swallow their shit listen to Rush, Hannity, Savage, and Beck for their information. For those of us in the "reality based community" we still believe in those stubborn empirical facts. Here are the actual statistics about minimum wage workers compiled by career government employees at The Department of labor for "the bush crime family". If you are too lazy to look at the spread sheets, here are the key numbers - 58% of men earning the minimum wage were between the age of 25- 54 years old and 64% of woman earning the minimum wage were between the age of 25- 54 years old. Here is the link below, look at the numbers , you don't need my MBA or wall street career to add up the 'official' government statistics.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR BUREAU OF LABOR -Statistics Table 7. -Employed wage and salary workers paid hourly rates with earnings at or below the prevailing Federal minimum wage by age and sex, 2002 annual averages

5. GAY MARRIAGE- Gay people deserve the same opportunity to FAIL at marriage as heterosexual couples. Slightly more that 1 out of 2 heterosexual marriages fail. In the Black community that number is higher. In many European countries gay marriage has been legal since the early 1960's; guess what?, the institution of heterosexual marriage was not destroyed.

6. FEDERAL EDUCATION FUNDING - Federal education funding has been cut drastically by "the bush crime family" and interest rates on federal student loans have been raised. If you can't figure out why this is severely detrimental to the US read my post in this thread http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=163499

7. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION - American Apartheid, white supremacy, was such an integral, normal part of the American status quo, that without affirmative action, Black lawyers, MBA's, PhD's would still be working in the post office as they were in the 1940's -1950's. Affirmative action as it relates to employment simply says that employers are mandated to look at and consider ALL QUALIFIED CANDIDATES when staffing a position. And they have to prove that they made that effort. These laws have resulted in qualified Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and white women entering the fortune 1000 companies. Prior to these laws many of the nations largest firms (IBM, Texaco, E.F. Hutton, etc.) were lily-white. Affirmative action as it relates to college entrance is an entirely different topic that I won't comment on here.

And let's see what J.C. Watts' father had to say about Republicans and the Republican Party. He said ... "A black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders."



 
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for one, I went to college, and was a journalism major. I had every type of class YOU claim many "conservatives" don't take.

Think about this, how long has our people followed the Democrats, and actually PROGRESS under their followship? Do you see any BROKE black republicans? Another thing, please don't think I'm a str8 republican, or anything. However, to act like the republicans are the only ones who act racist, homophobic, and snobbish is just plain ludicrous.

This is propaganda because you do not offer the REASON of such actions the republicans take. You are not being balance in your beliefs, therefore, you seem like a blind activist. BTW, the only reason I really don't feel the democrats is the fact that the ones I DO LIKE, they don't want them to have any power. I would support a Senator like Harold Ford Jr, but look how they did him. I would support Liberman, and look they drove him out of the senate *as a democrat*. This party is too left for me. I don't agree with global warming, I can't stand gay marriage *its a scam*, and I hate any type of gun control. The gun don't kill anyone, its the PERSON. I guess the democratic party do not want the independent vote during the 08 elections

Another thing, I wonder if anything the democrats pass in the house actually pass in the senate...?

Makkonnen · Apr 7, 2007

actinanass said:
for one, I went to college, and was a journalism major. I had every type of class YOU claim many "conservatives" don't take.

Think about this, how long has our people followed the Democrats, and actually PROGRESS under their followship? Do you see any BROKE black republicans? Another thing, please don't think I'm a str8 republican, or anything. However, to act like the republicans are the only ones who act racist, homophobic, and snobbish is just plain ludicrous.

This is propaganda because you do not offer the REASON of such actions the republicans take. You are not being balance in your beliefs, therefore, you seem like a blind activist. BTW, the only reason I really don't feel the democrats is the fact that the ones I DO LIKE, they don't want them to have any power. I would support a Senator like Harold Ford Jr, but look how they did him. I would support Liberman, and look they drove him out of the senate *as a democrat*. This party is too left for me. I don't agree with global warming, I can't stand gay marriage *its a scam*, and I hate any type of gun control. The gun don't kill anyone, its the PERSON. I guess the democratic party do not want the independent vote during the 08 elections...

You need more people.

QueEx · Apr 16, 2007

<center>Conservatives to Bush: Fire Gonzales
"Mr. Gonzales has presided over an unprecedented crippling
of the Constitution's time-honored checks and balances," it
declares. "He has brought rule of law into disrepute, and
debased honesty as the coin of the realm." Alluding to
ongoing scandal, it notes: "He has engendered the
suspicion that partisan politics trumps evenhanded
law enforcement in the Department of Justice." </center>

TIME Magazine
By ADAM ZAGORIN/WASHINGTON
April 16,, 2007

In what could prove an embarrassing new setback for embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on the eve of his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, a group of influential conservatives and longtime Bush supporters has written a letter to the White House to call for his resignation.

The two-page letter, written on stationery of the American Freedom Agenda, a recently formed body designed to promote conservative legal principles, is blunt. Addressed to both Bush and Gonzales, it goes well beyond the U.S. attorneys controversy and details other alleged failings by Gonzales. "Mr. Gonzales has presided over an unprecedented crippling of the Constitution's time-honored checks and balances," it declares. "He has brought rule of law into disrepute, and debased honesty as the coin of the realm." Alluding to ongoing scandal, it notes: "He has engendered the suspicion that partisan politics trumps evenhanded law enforcement in the Department of Justice."

The letter concludes by saying, "Attorney General Gonzales has proven an unsuitable steward of the law and should resign for the good of the country... The President should accept the resignation, and set a standard to which the wise and honest might repair in nominating a successor..." It is the first public demand by a group of conservatives for Gonzales' firing. Signatories to the letter include Bruce Fein, a former senior official in the Reagan Justice Department, who has worked frequently with current Administration and the Republican National Committee to promote Bush's court nominees; David Keene, chairman of the influential American Conservative Union, one of the nation's oldest and largest grassroots conservative groups, Richard Viguerie, a well-known GOP direct mail expert and fundraiser, Bob Barr, the former Republican congressman from Georgia and free speech advocate, as well as John Whitehead, head of the Rutherford Institute, a conservative non-forit active in fighting for what it calls religious freedoms.

Fein, speaking for the signatories, told TIME that Gonzales' planned testimony to Congress tomorrow, the text of which has been released by the Justice Department, was a "terrible disappointment" that left unanswered key questions on which his job may now depend. "Gonzales testimony before the Judiciary Committee resorts to a truly Clintonesque defense of his own previous false statements," says Fein. "In fact," he says, "Gonzales' latest declarations really do call into question the forthrightness and honesty indispensable for America's chief law enforcement officer."

In testimony to be delivered before the Senate Judiciary Committee tomorrow — and in an op-ed in Sunday's Washington Post — Gonzales says he has "nothing to hide," and that there were no political motives for seeking the resignations of any U.S. attorney involved in the current controversy. He acknowledges that he made various mistakes in the controversy and apologizes to the U.S. attorneys and their families.

"I also have no basis to believe that anyone involved in this process sought the removal of a U.S. attorney for an improper reason," Gonzales asserted. "I firmly believe that these dismissals were appropriate." But he did not offer specifics about any of the firings, and specifics seem likely to dominate Tuesday's Senate hearings. Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the top Republican on the committee, said yesterday that Gonzales has a "steep hill to climb" to keep his job, noting that, "He's going to be successful, in my opinion, only if he deals with the [specific] facts."

Signers of the letter says that it is also aimed at fellow Republicans — and especially GOP members of Congress — whom they hope to encourage to call for the attorney general's ouster, a step they argue is crucial to ending damage to the Department of Justice, as well as GOP standing on Capitol Hill.

Conservatives have long distrusted Gonzales, but until now many hesitated to criticize him publicly in the current controversy out or respect for the broad latitude they believe a President should have in selecting his cabinet. Behind the scenes, however, their opposition helped dissuade Bush from nominating Gonzales to the Supreme Court and, over the years, they have regularly disparaged him as too soft on key issues such as affirmative action and abortion. But as the President's popularity and political clout continue to decline, the group's assault on the Attorney General is designed to rally a growing number of Republicans who seem to hope that Gonzales will finally step aside. His testimony, however, gives no indication that he intends to do so.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1610738,00.html

QueEx · Apr 16, 2007

THE LETTER:

AMERICAN FREEDOM AGENDA
910 SEVENTEENTH STREET, NW SUITE 800
WASHINGTON, DC 20006
WWW.AMERICANFREEDOMAGENDA.ORG

April 16, 2007

Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States of America
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500

Honorable Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Dear Mr. President and Attorney General:

We, the undersigned co-founders of the American Freedom Agenda, urge the Attorney General to submit his resignation and the President to accept.

Mr. Gonzales has presided over an unprecedented crippling of the Constitution's time-honored checks and balances.

He has brought the rule of law into disrepute, and debased honesty as the coin of the realm.

He has engendered the suspicion that partisan politics trumps evenhanded law enforcement in the Department of Justice.

He has embraced legal theories that could be employed by a successor to obliterate the conservative philosophy of individual liberty and limited government celebrated by the Founding Fathers.

In sum, Attorney General Gonzales has proven an unsuitable steward of the law and should resign for the good of the country.

The President should accept the resignation, and set a standard to which the wise and honest might repair in nominating a successor, who will keep the law, like Caesar's wife, above suspicion.

Sincerely,

//Bruce Fein, Chairman
Richard Viguerie
David Keene
Bob Barr
John Whitehead//

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http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1610767,00.html

Makkonnen · Apr 16, 2007

gonzalez testimony postponed until thursday because of the shooting at vtech

QueEx · Apr 17, 2007

Makkonnen said:
gonzalez testimony postponed until thursday because of the shooting at vtech

Damn @ the massacre.
2X Damn @ Gonzales hiding behind it.

QueEx

Makkonnen · Apr 17, 2007

QueEx said:
Damn @ the massacre.
2X Damn @ Gonzales hiding behind it.

QueEx

Thing is this crap is so big now he can't even hide behind the nation's largest college massacre.

Sampson gave testimony this past weekend in private which contradicts the written statement Gonzo released for Thursday's testimony.

Worst thing I have learned so far - They used the Patriot Act to replace the DC US Attorney without oversight after the Repubs lost the elections in November and they knew oversight was coming. So now their boy is in place to head up and sabotage all DC prosecutions.

Couldnt someone somewhere try to prosecute these assholes using the Rico Act? Seems like an ongoing criminal enterprise especially if they all are conspiring to perjure themselves and aid perjury etc

Makkonnen · Apr 19, 2007

wow the carnage.......................

live on cspan3 or video at cspan online

Lyndsey Graham just anally raped Gonzo right after Schumer made him look like an asshole.

This shit is Alberto Gharaib

QueEx · Apr 19, 2007

I caught a quick glimpse at Arlen Specter going at him and that wasn't nice either. I was thinking then a bloodbath might ensue.

QueEx

Makkonnen · Apr 19, 2007

QueEx said:
I caught a quick glimpse at Arlen Specter going at him and that wasn't nice either. I was thinking then a bloodbath might ensue.

QueEx

Man............
How the hell does King George figure that a cabinet member telling the senate oversight panel that he can't remember anything is adequate?

How did...... no recollection
When did..... dont recall
Who did.........don't recollect
Why didn't..........we did(lie)

I guess Georgie wont lose faith in him until he's on trial for perjury.

QueEx · Apr 20, 2007

One protester counted how many times Alberto Gonzales said
"I don't recall." Another, Cindy Sheehan, offered an Iraq body count.

Makkonnen · Apr 20, 2007

Did you hear them singing "nah nah nah nah.......nah nah nah nah hey hey hey goodbye......"?

Makkonnen · Apr 25, 2007

update-------

Rick Renzi Repub from Arizona who is being investigated for corruption------- they fired the US Atty who was investigating him too and he even sent an email to DOJ asking what to tell the press if they asked about if he was fired for investigating Renzi

The DOJ didnt give the judiciary committee the documents stating that Renzi contacted the US Atty asking about the investigation.

The bitches at DOJ in DC also tried to tank the case. The investigation started no later than august 2005 and they didnt approve the search warrants until a week ago. :hmm:

blackIpod · Apr 25, 2007

New York Times :lol:

Who else will they ask to resign next GOD!
The president has the power to fire the U.S. attorneys.
He does not need to explain why.
I wish the white house would get more aggressive in defending it's positions and policies!
Keep General Gonzales at the Justice Department.
The department is not falling apart and no laws where broken with the removal of the 8 U.S. attorneys.
Do not give one inch of ground to the DNC, Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi.

Makkonnen · Apr 25, 2007

Removing a US Attorney because they wont prosecute political opponents of the Republican Party or because they are investigating Republicans is against the law.
Perjury is against the law.
Performing official government duties on non-governmental computers and attempting to delete all record of the activity is against the law.
Deleting emails after being told by the special prosecutor not to is against the law.

QueEx · Apr 26, 2007

<center>Delays in Renzi Case Raise
More Gonzales Questions</center>

Wall Street Journal
By JOHN R. WILKE and EVAN PEREZ
April 25, 2007; Page A2

WASHINGTON -- As midterm elections approached last November, federal investigators in Arizona faced unexpected obstacles in getting needed Justice Department approvals to advance a corruption investigation of Republican Rep. Rick Renzi, people close to the case said.

The delays, which postponed key approvals in the case until after the election, raise new questions about whether Attorney General Alberto Gonzales or other officials may have weighed political issues in some investigations. The Arizona U.S. attorney then overseeing the case, Paul Charlton, was told he was being fired in December, one of eight federal prosecutors dismissed in the past year. The dismissals have triggered a wave of criticism and calls from Congress for Mr. Gonzales to resign.

Investigators pursuing the Renzi case had been seeking clearance from senior Justice Department officials on search warrants, subpoenas and other legal tools for a year before the election, people close to the case said.

The Justice Department denied any foot-dragging in the Renzi case. "There was no such delay," said Bryan Sierra, a spokesman. Mr. Gonzales has said none of the firings of U.S. attorneys was related to corruption cases, and that the department is committed to pursuing such cases. Public-corruption staffing and prosecutions nationwide have increased during his tenure.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.), a Judiciary Committee member who has called for Mr. Gonzales's resignation, said his panel is planning to pursue whether the Renzi case was a factor in Mr. Charlton's firing. "I'm not saying there's evidence and I'm not making allegations," Mr. Schumer told reporters Monday. "But it's something we should look into."

Complex investigations commonly take a year or more, and it isn't known what issues figured in the Renzi case. Many details remain shrouded in the secrecy of a Tucson grand jury that has been at work since last year. Court filings remain under seal. The precise sequence of events likely won't become public unless formal charges are filed.

But the investigation clearly moved slowly: Federal agents opened the case no later than June 2005, yet key witnesses didn't get subpoenas until early this year, those close to the case said. The first publicly known search -- a raid of a Renzi family business by the Federal Bureau of Investigation -- was carried out just last week.

Mr. Renzi is the subject of a criminal inquiry into land deals, among other things. The Wall Street Journal reported last week that federal agents are focusing on a $200,000 cash payment Mr. Renzi received from a former business partner in 2005 following a land sale that was to be part of a proposed government land-exchange bill.

A lawyer for Mr. Renzi, Grant Woods, has denied any impropriety and said that the money was repayment of a debt, not a kickback. In a statement last night, Mr. Renzi denied wrongdoing, calling recent stories about the investigation "conjecture and false attacks" and saying that "none of them bear any resemblance to the truth." But he said he intends to "take a leave of absence" from all of his committee posts, including the natural-resources committee and House intelligence panel.

Normally, local U.S. attorneys may seek court approval for warrants and wiretaps without Washington's approval. But the Renzi case -- like many that involve members of Congress -- is being handled jointly by the local U.S. attorney and the department's public-integrity section. In such cases, a senior department official must approve requests for wiretaps and warrants and other formal legal steps.

People briefed on the case said investigators in Arizona asked Washington for clearance -- among other tools -- for a wiretap of Mr. Renzi's telephones, a highly unusual step against a sitting member of Congress, months before Election Day. The wiretap eventually was approved, and was in place by late October, these people said.

On Oct. 26, just days before the election, two political Web sites carried the first public word of the probe. In subsequent news accounts, an unidentified Washington law-enforcement official described the matter as "preliminary." Few details emerged, but the leak disrupted prosecutors' wiretap.

Meanwhile, Mr. Renzi, first elected to Congress in 2002, was fighting to hold on to his seat. In September, President Bush hosted a fund-raiser in Scottsdale on his behalf. About the same time Mr. Charlton was added to a list of prosecutors "we should now consider pushing out," wrote Mr. Gonzales's then-chief of staff, Kyle Sampson, in a Sept. 13, 2006, email to then-White House counsel Harriet Miers. The email is among thousands that the Justice Department has released in response to congressional inquiries into the dismissal of the U.S. attorneys.

In November, Mr. Renzi won re-election to a third term, beating his challenger by 51% to 44%. A month later, on Dec. 7, Mr. Charlton was told he was being dismissed. Two weeks later, he emailed William Mercer, a senior Justice Department official: "Media now asking if I was asked to resign over leak in Congressman Renzi investigation." He asked for advice, but never got a response, according to the emails released by the Justice Department.

Mr. Sierra, the department spokesman, said it would be inappropriate to comment on any ongoing case. Generally, though, cases move along on their own pace, he said. "We don't operate under artificial deadlines," he said. "To artificially put deadlines or to rush the time could damage the integrity of the investigation."

Brian Roehrkasse, another Justice Department official, said the department under Mr. Gonzales "has never retaliated against a United States attorney for conducting or failing to pursue a public corruption investigation."

Mr. Charlton, a Republican with 16 years as a federal prosecutor, was named by President Bush in 2001 to lead the Phoenix office. Now in private practice in Phoenix, he has refused to discuss any details of the Renzi investigation -- even when asked about it at a March 6 hearing of the House judiciary committee.

Write to Evan Perez at evan.perez@wsj.com

http://online.wsj.com/public/articl...0Cy6ieok4EIJGcFSnMnek_20070502.html?mod=blogs

Makkonnen · Apr 26, 2007

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013837.php

April 25, 2007 -- 04:18 PM EDT)</h2>
Quite a few of you have been writing in asking: Why the sudden explosion of movement on the Abramoff and other GOP corruption investigations? Is it tied in some way to the Purge story? It's always hard to infer just what the delays and speed-ups in <img src="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/images/carollam.jpg" align="right" hspace="15" vspace="15"> these investigations mean. Most of the big developments we don't know about until long after the investigation is completed. Sometimes we never know. And that leaves us like the proverbial blind men and the elephant, each speculating based on our little patch of facts with little understanding of the big picture.

That said, there's been such an avalanche of developments in recent days and weeks, that I think it's now quite reasonable to conclude that the turnaround is related to the fact that Gonzales and his crew are flat on their backs and aren't able to block them any more. This is the sort of question or charge people only make sheepishly and with some embarrassment. I've been reluctant to come to this conclusion as well. But now I think there are solid reasons to believe this is true.

It may seem like a leap. But there's more circumstantial evidence for it than you might think. 

We already know, for instance, that Main Justice made Carol Lam <a set="yes" href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013555.php">wait months for permission</a> to issue indictments against the crooks and bribers in the Cunningham investigation. Today we learned that DOJ sources are coming forward to say that Main Justice was <a set="yes" href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003091.php">playing a very similar game</a> in Arizona with the Renzi investigation. And remember, that US Attorney, Paul Charlton, got canned just like Lam. 

We now have some good evidence of a pattern of 'soft' obstruction of Republican corruption investigations by officials at Main Justice -- in the Cunningham-Lewis-Wilkes-Foggo investigation and the Renzi probe. If that's their MO, it shouldn't surprise us to learn they've done the same in the Abramoff probe. Nor should it surprise us that Gonzales's slow-motion fall -- along with the resignations of Sampson, Goodling and others -- is opening up the flood gates. 
 
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Makkonnen · Apr 26, 2007

Update on why so many repubs are actually being served with search warrants and being prosecuted NOW

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muckraker10021 · May 8, 2007

QueEx · May 11, 2007

<center>Attorney general frustrates Democrats
Gonzales deflects most questions about prosecutor
resignations and firings in House testimony.</center>

Los Angeles Times
By Richard B. Schmitt, Times Staff Writer
May 11, 2007

WASHINGTON — Atty. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales acknowledged for the first time Thursday that U.S. attorneys might have resigned under pressure from the Justice Department, but said their departures were unrelated to the controversial firings of eight prosecutors last year.

In an often-testy House Judiciary Committee hearing, Democrats sought to expand their inquiry beyond the eight prosecutors to broader questions about political interference in Justice Department cases. But Gonzales calmly deflected most of their questions.

And unlike the bipartisan grilling he endured in the Senate last month, several Republicans came to his defense, indicating that Gonzales may have passed the worst of the crisis that put his job in jeopardy.

Democrats pressed him on recent revelations about an exodus of federal prosecutors, in some cases in battleground states central to Republican political fortunes.

Gonzales confirmed the resignation last year of Todd P. Graves, the former U.S. attorney in Kansas City, Mo. But he denied charges by Democrats that Graves had been forced out for balking at a voter fraud lawsuit pushed by the Justice Department.

Gonzales said the department had "issues" with another U.S. attorney, Thomas Heffelfinger of Minneapolis, whose resignation last year has touched off an office coup of sorts aimed at his successor.

Gonzales also addressed the resignation last year of Debra Wong Yang, the former U.S. attorney in Los Angeles.

Responding to suggestions that Yang was eased out with a lucrative private-sector job offer to take the heat off Republicans who were being investigated in Southern California, Gonzales said Yang's resignation was "entirely voluntary" and for reasons he understood to be personal and financial.

The daylong hearing produced some revelations, including the fact that the Justice Department and White House aides behind the firings had once considered targeting the U.S. attorney in Milwaukee, Steven Biskupic.

The prosecutor was spared, according to documents released at the hearing, because of concern that his firing would alienate Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.), who was seen as a supporter of Biskupic.

Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) suggested that Biskupic had succumbed to Republican pressure to bring a corruption case against a state purchasing official who worked for the Democratic governor — a case that was tossed out by a judge.

Gonzales defended the case, noting that some Democrats in Wisconsin had backed it.

Democrats, unable to get answers to many of their questions, at times were angry and attacked Gonzales' competence.

When the attorney general could provide no details on how his former top aide, D. Kyle Sampson, had assembled the list of U.S. attorneys to be fired, Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said: "Tell me, just tell me how the U.S. attorney termination list came to be and who suggested putting most of these U.S. attorneys on the list and why. Now, that should take about three sentences."

Gonzales said that Sampson "presented to me what I understood to be the consensus recommendation" of the Justice Department's "senior leadership."

"OK, in other words, you don't know," Conyers replied.

Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Fla.) was incredulous that Gonzales "won't tell us who made the recommendation" to fire the prosecutors.

"Are you the attorney general? Do you run the Department of Justice?" asked Wexler, raising his voice in irritation.

Gonzales responded that "out of respect for the integrity of this investigation," he had not spoken to the people who might know the answer.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) quizzed Gonzales about voter fraud in her state. She was angry that the administration had focused on a few cases but did not pursue broader corruption that would have targeted both political parties.

Gonzales said investigating voter fraud was "important to the administration," but he could not recall the cases she cited.

At that, the lawmaker erupted. "I've had a hard time today trying to figure out what you do know," she said.

Several Republicans came to the defense of Gonzales, who seemed more relaxed than he did before the Senate Judiciary Committee on April 19.

"The list of accusations has mushroomed, but the evidence of wrongdoing has not," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the committee's senior Republican. "If there are no fish in this lake, we should reel in our lines of questions, dock our empty boat and turn to more pressing issues."

Gonzales disputed reports that Graves, the former U.S. attorney in Kansas City, was asked to leave in January 2006.

Graves has said that he believes he was forced out for not backing a voter fraud lawsuit against Missouri — a suit launched by his successor but dismissed by the courts.

"I have no basis to believe that case had anything to do with Mr. Graves' departure," Gonzales said.

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), whose district includes Minneapolis, questioned the attorney general about three veteran supervisors in the U.S. attorney's office there who have publicly clashed with their boss, Rachel Paulose.

Paulose, a young lawyer, was sent from Washington to Minneapolis to replace veteran prosecutor Heffelfinger, whom Gonzales said "was identified as someone perhaps we might have issues with."

Gonzales conceded that there were problems with Paulose's leadership, and that a Justice Department official from Washington had been sent to Minneapolis to sort out why the U.S. attorney was so disliked.

Gonzales was asked whether Paulose would remain as the top prosecutor in Minneapolis.

"If things do not change, that is something we would have to consider," he said.

Heffelfinger, who has said that his decision to leave was his own and that he had no indication that the Justice Department was dissatisfied with his performance, said Thursday that he was "pleased to hear they're concerned about the situation" in Minneapolis and that corrective steps were being taken.

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rick.schmitt@latimes.com

Times staff writers Richard A. Serrano and Tom Hamburger contributed to this report.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...ack=crosspromo&coll=la-news-politics-national

QueEx · May 20, 2007

<center>Gonzales likely to resign before no-confidence vote</center>

Washington Post
May 20, 2007

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is likely to resign before the Senate takes up a no-confidence resolution, according to Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.), the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee. A vote on such a measure could come as early as this week.

"I have a sense ... that before the vote is taken, that Attorney General Gonzales may step down" because of the likelihood that such a resolution would pass, Specter said on CBS's "Face the Nation." "It is a very forceful, historical statement. ... And I think ... that he would prefer to avoid that kind of an historical black mark."

Specter has been critical of Gonzales, and yesterday he called testimony last week by James Comey, a former acting attorney general, about Gonzales's actions in March 2004 "very damaging to Attorney General Gonzales."

But Specter declined to say whether Gonzales should resign or how he would vote on a no-confidence resolution.

Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee that Gonzales, then White House counsel, and former White House chief of staff Andrew Card went to an ailing John Ashcroft's hospital room to press the then attorney general to renew the administration's warrantless wiretapping program. Ashcroft refused.

Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), one of the sponsors of the no-confidence resolution, signaled that he would seek to widen the inquiry into the hospital episode. He said that he is sending letters to President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Cheney's chief of staff, David Addington, inquiring as to who ordered Gonzales and Card to make the request of Ashcroft.

"The only person who thinks the attorney general should remain attorney general is the president," Schumer said on "Fox News Sunday."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-talk/2007/05/may_20_gonzales_likely_to_resi.html?hpid=topnews

actinanass · May 21, 2007

and what does this have to do with REAL issues again?

QueEx · Jun 18, 2007

<center>2 Former Aides to Bush Get Subpoenas
Miers, Taylor Had Roles in Firings Of U.S. Attorneys</center>

Washington Post
By Dan Eggen and Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, June 14, 2007; Page A01

The decision by two congressional panels to issue subpoenas to the White House yesterday escalates a constitutional showdown over the Justice Department's firing of nine U.S. attorneys that could end up being decided by the federal courts.

The subpoenas from the House and Senate judiciary committees are the first to be served directly on the White House or its staff since the start of the uproar over the prosecutor firings. They signal that Democrats are willing to pursue protracted litigation to determine whether President Bush or his top aides played a significant role in identifying U.S. attorneys to be removed.

The demands target former White House counsel Harriet E. Miers, who first suggested a mass firing of prosecutors after the 2004 elections, and Sara M. Taylor, a former White House political director who figured prominently in efforts to name a former colleague as the U.S. attorney in Little Rock. The two panels also issued subpoenas to the White House for documents related to the prosecutor dismissals.

The White House gave no indication that it intends to comply with the demands. "It's clear that they're trying to create some media drama," said spokesman Tony Snow, referring to Democratic lawmakers.

By targeting two former administration officials, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) and Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) are hoping that Miers and Taylor might decide to reach accords with the House and Senate committees, regardless of the administration's interests, according to congressional aides.

A similar tactic resulted in damaging public testimony earlier this year from D. Kyle Sampson and Monica M. Goodling, two former senior aides to Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, who were at the center of the prosecutors' dismissals.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Democrats are keenly interested in obtaining testimony from presidential adviser Karl Rove but must first question other White House officials. A succession of Justice Department officials have denied responsibility for placing prosecutors' names on the firing lists, which Sampson compiled.

"We still haven't found out who actually concocted this scheme," Schumer said.

Taylor's attorney, W. Neil Eggleston, suggested yesterday that his client is open to cooperating, saying in a statement that Taylor "takes her responsibilities as a citizen very seriously."

"She is hopeful the White House and the Congress are quickly able to work out an appropriate agreement on her cooperation with the Senate's proceedings," Eggleston said.

Miers did not respond to a message left yesterday with her law office in Dallas.

Yesterday's move by the judiciary panels followed an unsuccessful attempt by Senate Democrats on Monday to hold a vote of no confidence in Gonzales. The attorney general has Bush's support and has deflected demands from Democrats and some Republicans that he resign over his management of the Justice Department.

Conyers said that "this subpoena is not a request, it is a demand on behalf of the American people." Leahy said that the administration "cannot stonewall congressional investigations by refusing to provide documents and witnesses while claiming nothing improper occurred."

White House spokesman Tony Fratto said that Congress should accept the administration's offer to let Rove and other officials be interviewed privately and not under oath.

"The committees can easily obtain the facts they want without this confrontational approach," he aid.

Nine federal prosecutors were removed last year -- seven on one day -- sparking a subsequent furor in Congress over shifting explanations for the dismissals by Gonzales and other Justice officials. Three of the prosecutors have alleged that before they were removed, they were contacted by lawmakers or their staffs about politically sensitive criminal investigations.

The Justice Department has begun an investigation that also is examining whether senior department officials violated federal law by taking political affiliation into account when hiring career prosecutors and immigration judges.

Yesterday's subpoenas were issued more than three months after Congress first authorized some for current and former administration officials -- a group that now numbers more than 20, including six of the fired prosecutors. About half of those subpoenas have been issued.

The Senate panel demanded that Taylor appear on July 11. The House committee called on Miers to testify the next day.

One constitutional-law expert said yesterday that the White House is in a difficult legal position, with little ability to refuse the subpoenas. "They're in the unsustainable position of refusing to explain the increasing evidence of a coverup," said Charles Tiefer of the University of Baltimore Law School.

Tiefer, a former deputy House counsel, said the White House does not have standing to try to quash the subpoenas preemptively. That leaves White House counsel Fred F. Fielding with the choice of a negotiated settlement or a showdown in federal court.

If the White House refuses the subpoenas, Leahy and Conyers could move to hold the White House in contempt, then forward those citations to the full House and Senate for approval. The contempt citations would then be sent to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Jeffrey A. Taylor, who is required to empanel a grand jury to consider indictments. Taylor may have to recuse himself because of his involvement in events as a U.S. attorney.

The top Republican on the Senate panel, Arlen Specter (Pa.), said that he supports the decision by Leahy and Conyers to issue the subpoenas. Specter said he called Fielding again yesterday in a final attempt to work out a compromise. Leahy also met privately with Fielding last Friday in his Senate offices, according to a senior aide.

Justice Department e-mails and other documents turned over to Congress show that Miers was in regular contact with Sampson about the progress of the firings, and was involved in administration debate over how to respond to the growing uproar earlier this year. Miers resigned in January.

Testimony and documents show that Sara Taylor was also involved in the firings and their aftermath, particularly in connection with the plan to replace Bud Cummins, the U.S. attorney in Little Rock, with former Rove aide Tim Griffin.

Staff writers Michael Abramowitz and Peter Baker contributed to this report.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/13/AR2007061300733.html?referrer=email

GET YOU HOT · Jul 26, 2007

Olbermann makes a point of matters at hand, watch him in action...!

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Gotta love it, i can hardly wait to see more of Bush's corrupted miscalulations become more apparent, more here...

http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/07/26/alberto-gonzales-lying-liar/

shanebp1978 · Jul 27, 2007

I am truly enjoying seeing Bush's Texas sycophants getting their just deserts, getting torn new assholes. They can't even defend their bullshit in any manner whatsoever, they are the most incompetent nitwit, scumbag fuckups ever! Dumber than a 2nd coat of paint.

I hope other persons of Hispanic descendant, who think that their hair texture, skin color, and smile will work for them with white persons, realize that when the chips are down, all those accolades, such as first Latino Attorney General, don't mean shit.

Fall on the sword, your on your own.

Alberto ain't shit anyway and fuck him. He and Bush only over-turned one death sentence. Blood thirsty coward.

QueEx · Aug 27, 2007

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Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Punch · Aug 27, 2007

QueEx said:
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Good for this clown! Looking all sour like he drinking pickle juice and eating lemonheads!

Atty General Gonzales Should Resign

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