if they stole billions of dollars from a ponzi scheme they would have got 5 years.
That's ridiculous. Fuck that prosecutor.
They face 20,haven't been sentenced yet. Shit is sad we can't trust our own to educate our kids
Who are the true victims? How are they being marginalized? And how does sentencing teachers to hard time make them whole?
Thats fine but the questions still linger. The students are not marginalized by the teachers. They are marginalized by a system of standardized testing that places more value on raw numbers than it does on actually teaching and educating and preparing students to become productive members of society. Sentencing teachers to murder numbers doesnt change a fucking thing.My good brother, if you're asking these questions then there's no need for our discourse. We can agree to disagree.
Egg-Fuckin-Zactly!Every policy in place says learning doesn't matter. Just pass the tests so you can get money..not extra money, we cut your pay so with these bonuses you'll be making what you were making before we cut them. Then charge them for doing what you told them to do which is make sure they pass them tests so everybody gets paid.
Then wonder why the kids don't know anything at all. 20 years.
Fuck the kids physically you get a slap on the wrist.
Fuck with the system in place you get 20 years if you don't take the plea deal.
What's the appeal of being a public school teacher again?
You can't even teach then have to force tests to get a check
Keep it business as usual tho.
They'll be sentenced next week, but the prosecutor has already said that there'll be no leniency. A RICO charge for this shit was over the top. What they did was inexcusable, but a RICO charge? GTFOH!
Every policy in place says learning doesn't matter. Just pass the tests so you can get money..not extra money, we cut your pay so with these bonuses you'll be making what you were making before we cut them. Then charge them for doing what you told them to do which is make sure they pass them tests so everybody gets paid.
Fuck with the system in place you get 20 years if you don't take the plea deal.
What's the appeal of being a public school teacher again?
They received bonuses based on their test scores.
… While Superintendent of APS, Beverly Hall set annual performance objectives for APS and the individual schools within it, commonly referred to as “targets.” If a school achieved 70% or more of its targets, all employees of the school received a bonus. Additionally, if certain system-wide targets were achieved, Beverly Hall herself received a substantial bonus. Targets for elementary and middle schools were largely based on students’ performance on the Criterion Referenced Competency Test a standardized test given annually to elementary and middle school students in Georgia. Additionally, student attendance was a contributing factor to achieving targets and obtaining bonuses.
These niggas are foul and hurt black youth, fuck them, they should have took the plea.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...lanta-teachers-cheated-on-standardized-tests/
What was the initial plea offer given to them?They're stupid and should have accepted the plea that was offered to them.
Fuck them.
The got damn GBI was investigating them, they should have accepted their plea deal.
Once again, fuck them.
Every policy in place says learning doesn't matter. Just pass the tests so you can get money..not extra money, we cut your pay so with these bonuses you'll be making what you were making before we cut them. Then charge them for doing what you told them to do which is make sure they pass them tests so everybody gets paid.
Then wonder why the kids don't know anything at all. 20 years.
Fuck the kids physically you get a slap on the wrist.
Fuck with the system in place you get 20 years if you don't take the plea deal.
What's the appeal of being a public school teacher again?
You can't even teach then have to force tests to get a check
Keep it business as usual tho.
THIS!
I volunteered at one of the schools in this scandal some years back. The point is that they accepted $$$ for cheating. Beverly Hall should have taken the heat...but unfortunately, she died.
You gotta look at the big picture of this. Atlanta is gentrifying like crazy. Other than crime, the quality of schools is the biggest factor to property values. This could have tainted the image of the city far worse and cost in millions in tax revenue. Not justifying the potential sentences, just providing a better perspective.
They need to go to jail, but I highly doubt they will get anywhere near 20 years.
Not disagreeing with anything you said here.
If you (teachers in this case) don't like the policy then stand up for it while educating instead of finding ways to defraud the system and cheat the children.
Hundreds if not thousands of kids will directly feel what these teachers did.
For the love of children and education plus long vacations.
Teachers love being able to reach and teach children. Making them memorize standard tests isn't teaching. Not being paid for the summer is not the same as having a long vacation. Most teachers take summer school jobs around here because they NEED the money.
my gf is a teacher & all of this was true for her. she became a teacher because she truly loved to teach, but a decade in the classroom...the goal shifted from making sure kids achieve milestones per grade to cramming all year to pass this or that standardized test. It's no longer about making sure a kid can read or write or draw logical conclusions or problem solving...its all about passing these damn tests.
What was the initial plea offer given to them?
2. employees of APS who failed to satisfy targets were terminated or threatened with termination, while others who achieved targets through cheating were publicly praised and financially rewarded.
This means not only were they getting paid but they were fucking up the livelihood of the teachers who didn't want to cheat. So the victims were the teachers who didn't want to participate. Who will now have to sue to get their jobs back and pensions.
GUILTY PLEAS SO FAR
What about the judge that signs off on it?
I shit you not! http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/aps-judge-says-hes-somewhat-doubtful-about-rico-ch/njJ9Z/
"The judge overseeing the Atlanta Public Schools test-cheating trial on Tuesday said he is “somewhat doubtful” about the most serious charge — that of racketeering — facing each of the 12 former educators on trial."
The very next day he comes in a basically tells the Defendants to take a deal.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/aps-judge-tells-sides-to-consider-compromise/njKwB/
“This RICO count is real,” Baxter said. “I understand the law. (Jurors) could find RICO in this case.”
"The racketeering count carries a maximum punishment of up to 20 years in prison. Eleven of the 12 defendants on trial also face lesser felony charges, which also carry potential prison time.
Baxter added, “I’m just saying usually if there’s some division, there’s a compromise. I’m just letting everybody know. Everybody is sitting around like this is a fun ride. But it’s serious.”"
This Judge was trying to let'em know, but.....![]()
They were specifically told take the plea but they wanted to roll the dice.
They rolled and crapped out after being 100% in the wrong.
Anyone that thinks this punishment was too harsh go volunteer at Gideon Elementary or the middle school they feed into.
Those kids and the teachers that have to deal with them now were cheated.
u woudlnt be saying that shit, if your kid was in 10th grade, and reading on 3rd grade level.
we got grown MEN who can even read a box that say
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yet, will run a generator inside the kitchen, because his power out, and then kills his entire family. because simply he could NOT read the box.
i have grown men who cannot read job applications. (atlanta)
ya'll also missed the part, where teachers got a $2000 PAY BONUS, if their kids passed a certin % level.
u woudlnt be saying that shit, if your kid was in 10th grade, and reading on 3rd grade level.
we got grown MEN who can even read a box that say
yet, will run a generator inside the kitchen, because his power out, and then kills his entire family. because simply he could NOT read the box.
I don't give a fuck want anybody sats. There is no way these folk should be facing more time than murders.
update.
The Atlanta Board of Education voted last month to award Hall a bonus of $78,115 on top of her $279,985 base salary.
Under Hall’s contract, she can earn a performance bonus of up to 30 percent if students meet objectives in such areas as reading, language arts, mathematics, enrollment in higher level classes, attendance and test scores. The school system analyzed the data for 2008-09 and found students met 57 percent of the 72 objectives, yet Hall’s bonus will be more than 90 percent of the maximum available.
That’s because the goals were “stretch objectives” — goals that were difficult to achieve, schools spokesman Keith Bromery said. In other words, not easy A’s.
Hall’s contract also entitles her to a tax-sheltered annuity equal to 11.5 percent of her base salary — or $32,198 — as well as a $10,000 expense allowance and use of a late-model, full-size car. She also gets a life insurance policy for twice her base salary and additional contributions to her retirement.
then on TOP of that shit, when she LEFT APS, she got another job in another state.
they gave that hoe like $100,000 sign on bonus, before learning about the APS scandal
they fired her, she never worked a single day, but the contract was already signed, they STILL had to give her the sign on bonus..![]()
This parent that has a kid at one of the schools was jumping for joy at the verdict, saying that the teachers ruined their kids' lives, while another parent said, "This doesn't let us parents off the hook. We could've done more for our children."