At&t tech says AT&T has special NSA room to intercept ALL communications they process

Makkonnen

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AT&T sued over alleged role in domestic spying effort
A privacy group is seeks billions of dollars in fines and a halt to the surveillance


News Story by <a href="mailto:todd_weiss@computerworld.com">Todd R. Weiss</a> <br>
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AT&amp;T Inc. is being sued by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) to try to stop the company from continuing any role it may have in divulging customer information to the U.S. government as part of surveillance operations undertaken since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The privacy group <a target="”new”" href="http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_01.php#004369">announced</a> the lawsuit yesterday.
<p>In the 27-page suit <a target="”new”" href="http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/att-complaint.pdf">(download PDF)</a> filed yesterday, the San Francisco-based EFF alleges that AT&amp;T violated U.S. law and customer privacy rules by providing phone records and other telecommunications access to National Security Agency agents without getting court orders as required by law.

</p><p>The government surveillance program became public last month, when <i>The New York Times</i> reported that President Bush had authorized the surveillance efforts in 2001 as part of the government’s efforts to fight terrorism. Bush has defended the legality of the ongoing surveillance program, which the EFF argues has been made possible with the help of AT&amp;T and other telecommunications firms.
</p><p>“AT&amp;T has opened up its network and databases to the National Security Agency to illegally intercept and analyze millions of ordinary Americans’ communications,” said Kurt Opsahl, a staff attorney for the EFF. “Congress has set up strong laws protecting the privacy of your communications, strictly limiting when telephone and Internet companies can subject your phone calls to government scrutiny. The companies that have betrayed their customers’ trust by illegally handing the NSA direct access to their networks and databases must be brought to account. AT&amp;T needs to put a sign on its door that reads, ‘Come back with a warrant.’ ”
</p><p>Jim Burns, a spokesman for AT&amp;T, said the company “declines to comment on matters relating to national security or customer privacy ... or things involving pending litigation.”
</p><p><!--beginpage2-->In the lawsuit, the EFF “challenges the legality of defendants’ participation in a secret and illegal government program to intercept and analyze vast quantities of Americans’ telephone and Internet communications, surveillance done without the authorization of a court and in violation of federal electronic surveillance and telecommunications statutes, as well as the First and Fourth Amendments to the United States Constitution.”
</p><p>The lawsuit further states that “AT&amp;T Corp. has opened its key telecommunications facilities and databases to direct access by the NSA and/or other government agencies, intercepting and disclosing to the government the contents of its customers’ communications as well as detailed communications records about millions of its customers, including Plaintiffs and class members.” The EFF alleges that AT&amp;T, in addition to allowing the NSA direct access to the phone and Internet communications passing over its network, has given the government unrestricted access to its more than 300TB “Daytona” database of caller information, which is one of the largest databases in the world.
</p><p>In September 2005, AT&amp;T Corp. was acquired by SBC Communications Inc., and AT&amp;T became a wholly owned subsidiary of SBC. The company was then renamed AT&amp;T Inc.

</p><p>The lawsuit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Northern District of California, is being pursued as a class-action lawsuit to represent all AT&amp;T customers nationwide. The EFF is seeking an injunction to stop AT&amp;T from participating in the NSA surveillance program, as well as fines that could total billions of dollars in damages for violation of federal privacy laws.
</p><p>The EFF alleges that the NSA uses massive computers to data-mine the contents of captured Internet and telephone communications for suspicious names, numbers and words, and to analyze data on callers and e-mail authors that can help identify persons who may be linked to suspicious activities, suspected terrorists or other investigatory targets of the government. <!-- End body content -->









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[April 07, 2006]

AT&T tech backs suit over NSA surveillance

(UPI Top Stories Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)A retired AT&T technician says the company provided the U.S. National Security Agency with facilities to monitor telephone and Internet traffic.

Mark Klein's affidavit was filed in federal court in San Francisco in support of a lawsuit by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Wired magazine reports. The foundation filed a class-action suit in January, claiming that AT&T broke federal and state laws by cooperating with warrantless wiretapping.


Klein, who says he was involved in helping to set up equipment for the NSA, decided to get involved in the lawsuit because he does not believe the Bush administration is being honest about its surveillance, Wired reported.

Despite what we are hearing, and considering the public track record of this administration, I simply do not believe their claims that the NSA's spying program is really limited to foreign communications or is otherwise consistent with the NSA's charter or with (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act), he said. And unlike the controversy over targeted wiretaps of individuals' phone calls, this potential spying appears to be applied wholesale to all sorts of Internet communications of countless citizens.

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/04/07/1552106.htm
 

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This is a long article and I'll admit I'm high as hell and didn't read all of it and prolly couldn't comprehend it if i did. I will say this tho. America is in a type war we never fought before, terrorism on the homeland, religious, ideological positions that people didn't fight over in the past, nations used to go to war over land, wealth now we going at it over religion. There are milllions of Muslims in the West, our borders can't be covered, we have 2 million people behind bars, the national debt is over 8 trillion dollars. My point is the people might not fully understand what's going on here but the president and his administration obviously feel our country is at serious risk, since he won the election fair and square maybe we should support him.
 

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:lol: Oh Boi!

You off course like that supposed plane that crashed in the field, in which there was no debris found!!! Have you never heard of the way Bush stole the election?? Just so happens that he "won" his final votes in his first run for office in 2000 vs. Gore(the sorry sap gave up!) with votes having to be recounted in a state where his brother Jeb is Govenor--Florida. Where it is documented that thousands of democratic absentee ballot votes were literally thrown into the garbage. Where there is documentation of alterations to voting machines. And in the past election where thousands of votes were stolen and change to favor him despite calculations telling us that he lost the election to Kerry. Man wake up!! Do you know the very machines that are used to count the electronic votes can be hacked into and votes changed??? That thosee very machines are produced by one of his CEO cronies??? There is alot of available information. Please look into this...

black box voting
diebold

"DELAND, Fla., Nov. 11 - Something very strange happened on election night to Deborah Tannenbaum, a Democratic Party official in Volusia County. At 10 p.m., she called the county elections department and learned that Al Gore was leading George W. Bush 83,000 votes to 62,000. But when she checked the county's Web site for an update half an hour later, she found a startling development: Gore's count had dropped by 16,000 votes, while an obscure Socialist candidate had picked up 10,000--all because of a single precinct with only 600 voters."
- Washington Post Sunday , November 12, 2000 ; Page A22
 

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20 Amazing Facts About Voting In The United States
February 9, 2006​

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the US voting machine industry.

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

5. 35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, a long-time friend of the Bush family, was caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice- presidential candidates.

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the US and counts almost 60% of all US votes.

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

12. Diebold employs 5 convicted felons as developers. These are the people who write the voting machine computer code.

13. Diebold's Senior Vice-President, Jeff Dean, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie at http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov.)

17. 30% of all US votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail. 18. Bush's Help America Vote Act of 2002 has as its goal to replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems with no paper trail.

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.

20. Major statistical voting oddities (odds on the order of 250 million to 1!) -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated by experts.


Such amazing odds, the equivalent of statistical miracles these were. Was it God? Or was it Diebold...?
By Angry Girl and Bob Rowe​
 

Makkonnen

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good post getyouhot - i had a thread about diebold's ohio bullshit and lawsuits against it there and how they were drummed out of north carolina for being fuck ups



i have no problem with respectable governmental agencies protecting the US and even eavesdropping to protect us- but these people are not respectable. Without checks and balances what stops them from becoming the Gestapo? Nothing at all.
 

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True, my main concern with eavsdropping is reminisant to Watergate, see where im going with this?
Who is to say that Bush, Republicans are not using this NSA to listen in on, track e-mails from and to, potential 2006 Democratic candidates.
Critical information is being tracked and recorded and used for???
There is also no checks and balances on how the NSA conducts business!
 

Makkonnen

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GET YOU HOT said:
True, my main concern with eavsdropping is reminisant to Watergate, see where im going with this?
Who is to say that Bush, Republicans are not using this NSA to listen in on, track e-mails from and to, potential 2006 Democratic candidates.
Critical information is being tracked and recorded and used for???
There is also no checks and balances on how the NSA conducts business!
why would they even have to listen to what democrats say? democrats are the same as republicans.

the biggest thing about watergate that the american people dont get is that certain people selected the democrat that they would be running against. :lol:
 

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Superfly Moderator
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Who certain people and why would they need to listen in on them then? :confused:
Anyhow "they" made sure any viable future democratic candidates died earlier on in a few plane crashes.
 

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Diebold Voting Machine Flaw Easily Exploitable

Computer engineers are calling a security flaw in Diebold Election Systems’ touch-screen voting machines, which are used in several states, the “worst ever”. Diebold programmers created a backdoor in the machines’ software to allow quick upgrades, but those same holes could potentially be used by hackers to upload software without leaving a trace. Hopkins University computer science professor Avi Rubin called it "the most serious thing I've heard to date…even describing why I think it's serious is dangerous.”
 

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Superfly Moderator
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GET YOU HOT said:
Who certain people and why would they need to listen in on them then? :confused:
Anyhow "they" made sure any viable future democratic candidates died earlier on in a few plane crashes.

Paul Wellstone was the only progressive in the U.S. Senate. Mother Jones magazine once described him as, "The first 1960s radical elected to the U.S. senate." He was also the last. Since defeating incumbent Republican Rudy Boschowitz 12 years ago in a grassroots upset, Wellstone emerged as the strongest, most persistent, most articulate and most vocal Senate opponent of the Bush administration.

Wellstone now joins the ranks of other American politicians who died in small plane crashes. Another recent victim was Missouri's former Democratic governor, Mel Carnahan, who lost his life in 2000, three weeks before Election Day, during his Senatorial race against John Ashcroft. Carnahan went on to become the first dead man to win a Senatorial race, humiliating and defeating the unpopular Ashcroft posthumously. Ashcroft, despite his unpopularity, went on to be appointed Attorney General by George W. Bush. Investigators determined that Carnahan's plane went down due to "poor visibility."

Carnahan was the second Missouri politician to die in a small plane crash. The first was Democratic Representative Jerry Litton, whose plane crashed the night he won the Democratic nomination for senate in 1976. His Republican opponent ultimately captured the seat from his successor in November.

While an article in the New York Times on Saturday pointed out the danger politicians face due to their heavy air travel schedules, the death of a senator or member of Congress is still relatively rare, with only one other sitting U.S. Senator, liberal Republican John Heinz, dying in a plane crash since World War II. Heinz, who entered office as an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War, later emerged as a strong proponent of health care, social services, public transportation and the environment. He also urged reconciliation with Cuba. He died when the landing gear on his small plane failed to function, and a helicopter dispatched to survey the problem crashed into his plane.

One former senator, John Tower, also died in a small plane crash. Tower was best known as the chair of the Tower Commission, which investigated the Reagan/Bush era Iran/Contra scandal.

Another member of a prominent government commission who died in a small plane crash was former Democratic representative and House Majority Leader Hale Boggs. Boggs was best known as one of the seven members of the Warren Commission, which investigated the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The commission found that Lee Harvey Oswald was acting alone when he killed the president. Boggs, it turns out, had "strong doubts" that Oswald acted alone, but went along with the commission findings. Later, in 1971 and 1972, he went public with his doubts. He was presumed dead after the small plane carrying him and Democratic Representative Nicholas Begich disappeared in 1972.

Texas Democratic Representative Mickey Leland also died in a plane crash. In his case, the six-term member of Congress and outspoken advocate of sanctions against the apartheid government of South Africa, died while traveling in Ethiopia. Another American politician to die overseas in a plane crash was the Clinton administration's Commerce Secretary, Ronald Brown, whose plane went down in the Balkans.

When I heard Wellstone's plane went down, I immediately thought of Panamanian General Omar Torrijos, who in 1981 thumbed his nose at the Reagan/Bush administration and threatened to destroy the Panama Canal in the event of a U.S. invasion. Torrijos died shortly thereafter when the instruments in his plane failed to function upon takeoff. Panamanians speculated that the U.S. was involved in the death of the popular dictator, who was replaced by a U.S. intelligence operative, Manuel Noreiga, who previously worked with George Bush Senior.

http://www.alternet.org/story/14399/
 

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This story contains links to PDF...Lots of Important information Here..Please Read!
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70944-0.html

Whistle-Blower's Evidence, Uncut
02:00 AM May, 22, 2006

Former AT&T technician Mark Klein is the key witness in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's class-action lawsuit against the telecommunications company, which alleges that AT&T cooperated in an illegal National Security Agency domestic surveillance program.

Whistle-Blower's Precognition
Years before the NSA's warrantless surveillance program made national headlines, then-AT&T technician Mark Klein suspected his company was colluding with the government to spy on Americans. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70910-0.html

The Ultimate Net Monitoring Tool
A little-known company called Narus makes the packet-inspection technology said to be the basis of the NSA's internet surveillance. Here's how it works.
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70914-0.html

Plus:
Daily updates from 27B Stroke 6, the Wired News security and privacy blog.
http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/

In a public statement Klein issued last month, he described the NSA's visit to an AT&T office. In an older, less-public statement recently acquired by Wired News, Klein goes into additional details of his discovery of an alleged surveillance operation in an AT&T building in San Francisco.

Klein supports his claim by attaching excerpts of three internal company documents: a Dec. 10, 2002, manual titled "Study Group 3, LGX/Splitter Wiring, San Francisco," a Jan. 13, 2003, document titled "SIMS, Splitter Cut-In and Test Procedure" and a second "Cut-In and Test Procedure" dated Jan. 24, 2003.llegedly describe AT&T's efforts to install splitters on internet fiber-optic cables at the company's San Francisco switching center. Page 2 describes the splitter and lists the equipment at the receiving end of the purportedly tapped lines. Page 3 is a diagram depicting the alleged tap, and Page 4 details connections between the splitter cabinet and what Klein calls a "secret room" housing the equipment.

"Since the San Francisco 'secret room' is numbered 3, the implication is that there are at least several more in other cities (Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego are some of the rumored locations), which likely are spread across the U.S.,"
Klein wrote.

Here we present Klein's statement in its entirety, with inline links to all of the document excerpts where he cited them. You can also download the complete file here pdf).
http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/att_klein_wired.pdf.
The full AT&T documents are filed under seal in federal court in San Francisco.
 

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Below is a link to NOW with David Brancaccio about email and internet spying by the government and ISP. Our emails should be protected the same way as our mail and telephone calls. Just because my email is stored on your server, doesn't make it a business record of the ISP. My mail is "stored" at the post office before it is sent to somebody. Does that mean the post office can open my mail?

STEVEN WARSHAK vs UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, look at the strange legal arguments of the government in regard to your email. Your stored email is considered a postcard, open to the view of the government. Or consider AT&T legal argument that E-mails is a business record of the company. How would you like your phone call to become a business record of AT&T? You can't create a TOS that allows you to listen in on phone calls, the ISP TOS is illegal and unenforceable.

I don't care what is in the forced Terms of Services by the monopoly ISP or the government legal arguments. These entities can not monitor my email or internet activity without court approval as required by the Fourth Amendment.

Next we will see the government putting key loggers on computers. With open wifi, the government won't be able to monitor people directly since they can use unknown access points. All the security holes and backdoors in Windows XP, the government can gain access to your computer at any time and plant trojans.

[FRAME]http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/307/index.html[/FRAME]
 
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The NSA's Eavesdropping at AT&T

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Re: The NSA's Eavesdropping at AT&T

And you know they are doing it elsewhere in other telecommunication companies. Once real AI is achieved expect a future knock on the door by your not-so-friendly "morality brigade."
 

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Re: At&t tech says AT&T has special NSA room to intercept ALL communications they pro

bump
have you guys been keeping up with this?
 

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AT&T engineer says Bush Administration sought to implement domestic spying within two weeks of taking office
12/16/2007 @ 6:45 pm
Filed by John Byrne

Nearly 1,300 words into Sunday's New York Times article revealing new details of the National Security Agency's domestic eavesdropping program, the lawyer for an AT&T engineer alleges that "within two weeks of taking office, the Bush administration was planning a comprehensive effort of spying on Americans’ phone usage.”
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In a New Jersey federal court case, the engineer claims that AT&T sought to create a phone center that would give the NSA access to "all the global phone and e-mail traffic that ran through" a New Jersey network hub.

The former AT&T employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity to the Times said he took part in several discussions with agency officials about the plan.

"The officials, he said, discussed ways to duplicate the Bedminster system in Maryland so the agency “could listen in” with unfettered access to communications that it believed had intelligence value and store them for later review," Times reporters Eric Lichtblau, James Risen and Scott Shane wrote. "There was no discussion of limiting the monitoring to international communications, he said."

“At some point,” he told the paper, “I started feeling something isn’t right.”

"Two other AT&T employees who worked on the proposal discounted his claims, saying in interviews that the project had simply sought to improve the N.S.A.’s internal communications systems and was never designed to allow the agency access to outside communications."

AT&T's spokesman said they didn't comment on national security matters, as did a spokesman for Qwest, which was also approached but apparently rebuffed the plan. The lawyer for the engineer and others in the New Jersey case says AT&T's internal documents would vindicate his clients.

“What he saw,” Bruce Afran, a New Jersey lawyer representing the plaintiffs, told the Times, “was decisive evidence that within two weeks of taking office, the Bush administration was planning a comprehensive effort of spying on Americans’ phone usage.”

http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=8594

NY Times article http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/washington/16nsa.html?ei=5065&en=03d7b2d9209d9d7d&ex=1198472400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print
 

Makkonnen

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Re: At&t tech says AT&T has special NSA room to intercept ALL communications they pro

A vote is up for a bill giving retroactive immunity to the telecomm companies for breaking the fuckin law

Chris Dodd is going to filibuster it

support chris dodd - he's the only one steadily against this shit

Russ Feingold says he's against it but will he filibuster too?

More proof harry reid and pelosi are just fuckin Republicans with donkey pins on their jackets
 

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Great post + great replies! Good look on the info BGOL!
 
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