Are you still a fan of Clint Eastwood?

You STILL a Clint Eastwood fan?

  • YES

    Votes: 19 15.4%
  • I can seperate from his work as a actor/director.

    Votes: 53 43.1%
  • NO

    Votes: 51 41.5%

  • Total voters
    123

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For a long time I couldn't watch Seinfeld because of that shit Kramer pulled...:smh:

My Dad introduced me to westerns as a kid and spoke so highly of him and his work...

I always heard rumors abot his true feelings on race especially on how he treated the actors in that Gran Tarino movie.

Clint Eastwood on his RNC performance: 'Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people'​

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Clint Eastwood has no regrets.

In the Oscar-winner’s first interview since his unconventional (and meme-worthy) remarks at the Republican National Convention last week, Eastwood stressed that he was proud of how things played out, but — as many suspected — Romney officials were unclear about what exactly would be taking place when the 82-year-old actor stepped out onstage. “They vet most of the people, but I told them, ‘You can’t do that with me, because I don’t know what I’m going to say,’” Eastwood explained to The Carmel Pine Cone, a local paper from the city where Eastwood once served as mayor.

Eastwood said he had three main points he wanted to get across in his speech: “That not everybody in Hollywood is on the left, that Obama has broken a lot of the promises he made when he took office, and that the people should feel free to get rid of any politician who’s not doing a good job,” he told the paper. “But I didn’t make up my mind exactly what I was going to say until I said it.”

The idea for the now-infamous empty chair came to the actor only 20 minutes before he was scheduled to speak. “There was a stool there, and some fella kept asking me if I wanted to sit down,” Eastwood said. “When I saw the stool sitting there, it gave me the idea. I’ll just put the stool out there and I’ll talk to Mr. Obama and ask him why he didn’t keep all of the promises he made to everybody.”

After his extemporaneous speech, Eastwood said that he wasn’t aware of the negative reaction in the press, saying that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan came backstage to thank him, and “They were very enthusiastic, and we were all laughing.”

“President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people,” Eastwood said. “Romney and Ryan would do a much better job running the country, and that’s what everybody needs to know. I may have irritated a lot of the lefties, but I was aiming for people in the middle.”
 
i never was
my dad was
my dad for whatever reason loved westerns so i've seen them all
all the ones he was in and all the ones he wasn't
and even bonanza

shit come to think of it i didn't even get to really watch anything else if he was home.

heat of the night
t.j. hooker
streets of sf
homicide
canon
barnaby jones
magnum p.i.
hunter
a man called hawk
spencer for hire

damn can't believe i even remember all those shows from memory :lol:
 
I'm more a fan of his spaghetti westerns so what he does now doesn't affect how I see those movies.
Plus, this is the same guy who they shot that commercial about the revival of Detroit and he may be a Republican but if you listened to some of his criticisms, he's not a "Tea Party" asshole.
 
i never was
my dad was
my dad for whatever reason loved westerns so i've seen them all
all the ones he was in and all the ones he wasn't
and even bonanza

shit come to think of it i didn't even get to really watch anything else if he was home.

heat of the night
t.j. hooker
streets of sf
homicide
canon
barnaby jones
magnum p.i.
hunter
a man called hawk
spencer for hire

damn can't believe i even remember all those shows from memory :lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

That was my granddad's lineup right there. Add Braves baseball and World Championship Wrestling at 6:05 pm Saturday and I would think you were talking about him.
 
sure am.....grew up on the speghetti westerns from sergio leone and the dirty harry movies...
 
Gran Torino
In the Line of Fire
Absolute Power
Unforgiven

All very good movies. Clint's retarded speech will not change that.
 
Maybe I missed the racist part. :dunno:

Gran Torino Actor Reveals Behind-the-Scenes Racism

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The Multicultural Center put on a program that opened the audience’s eyes to the racial stereotypes portrayed in Hollywood films in addition to the unfair treatment that minority actors receive backstage. The program was held on Tuesday, January 18.
Bee Vang, actor and second-year student at Brown University, and Dr. Louisa Schein, Hmong media expert, discussed the truth of what happened behind the scenes of the movie Gran Torino.

Clint Eastwood’s Gran Torino is about a racist old man named Walt who overcomes his prejudice by helping his teenager neighbor Thao. Thao is part of the Hmong community, a small ethnic Asian group.

Though many of the people who have seen the film may have gotten a sense of satisfaction and joy from seeing that Walt overcame his racism, the people who acted as the Hmong members in the movie did not. They were offended by the traces of racism that were included in the movie and that they experienced themselves on set.

Vang, who played Thao in the film, said he and the other Hmong actors were treated unfairly. Eastwood would not allow them to tweak their lines (even though he claimed that he did allow them to when asked in interviews following the release of the movie) and would not give them any tips on character building.

The actors felt degraded when they were told to “make noise” by rambling words in their language. The Hmong actors were also left out by their fellow cast members who were white.

The cast members excluded them from cast events because they immediately assumed that Hmong actors were exactly like their character counterparts—unable to speak English clearly or to understand anything “American.”

Vang also mentioned that he was upset by the way the Hmongs were portrayed in the film. He did not want the Hmong community—his own community—to be seen in a negative light by the audience. He pointed out that tea ceremonies were not performed correctly, that some of their important political lines in the script were not subtitled into English, and that these inaccuracies led to misconceptions of the community.

UCSB first-year Jen Greenfield was surprised to hear about these truths.

“When I first saw Gran Torino, I thought that it was really good because I didn’t know about the whole background,” she said. “This discussion has made me realize that I do approach things with a white supremacy point of view. It was interesting to hear a different perspective.”
The movie itself contained many racial slurs about Asians that the speakers found insulting.

In the scene in which Walt takes Thao to his friend’s barber shop, Thao is called names such as “pussy kid,” “dick smoking Guk head” and “chink.” These degrading words imply that Asians are feminine and homosexual.

Vang explained that he accepted this role because he wanted to make changes to the script in order to get his view across that this discrimination was wrong.

“When I read the script, I thought that it was messed up,” he said. “I wanted to get the part and do something about it, but when I got there, I couldn’t.”

Unfortunately, no one can do much about the stereotypes because they go beyond Gran Torino.

The speakers note that many movies in which the original characters are supposed to be played by Asians are played by white people. These stereotypes are shown in movies so often that viewers may not even notice them or take them seriously.

UCSB English graduate student Ly Chong Janau recognized this observation and hopes that more people do, too.

“People pretend that they are in a society past racism, but that is not the case,” Janau said. “A lot of these stereotypes exist, but they are not acknowledged enough. It’s there all the time but there is a lot of resistance.”

In order to stop these racial stereotypes from being portrayed in movies, Vang and Schein propose that minority directors should get behind the camera and make movies to expose Hollywood, using the master’s tool against the master. They also suggest that people should speak out, both individually and in groups.

Vang wrote and directed his own parody of the barber scene in order to portray the stupidity of stereotypes. His spoof, which is on YouTube, switches the roles of Walt and Thao to exaggerate how ridiculous the situation is and to show that a dominant person cannot have power without having someone to oppress.

Schein thinks that videos like these are a good way to speak out against the media.

“Spoofs are effective even though they’ll take a long time to circulate through YouTube and create political intervention,” she said.
On the other hand, East Asian Studies Professor Mayfair Yang believes that speaking up in groups rather than by oneself would be a better way to get the message across.

“Each one of us has the opportunity to speak up. If we speak up together in organized groups, we can make a better difference over time,” said Yang.

MCC associate director Viviana Marsano, who is in charge of planning the MCC’s various events, was incredibly enthusiastic about providing this particular program.

“The content of this workshop is exactly what the MCC is about—breaking the stereotypes of colored communities and addressing the issues of sexuality and gender. It fulfills the mission of the MCC,” she said.

http://thebottomline.as.ucsb.edu/2011/01/gran-torino-actor-reveals-behind-the-scenes-racism
 
:lol::lol::lol:

That was my granddad's lineup right there. Add Braves baseball and World Championship Wrestling at 6:05 pm Saturday and I would think you were talking about him.

:lol:
what was i doing watching those shows?
i guess spending time was better than not spending time
we used to be able to catch wgn on basic cable in oakland so we'd end up watching the bulls and the cubs

i used to be into wrestling
took me to see the lex luger fight tatanka at the coliseum
and then i realized it was fake :(
 
like when all the cacs outed themselves around the OJ verdict

i never really fucked with them since

but

i still fucks wit

good-bad-ugly.jpg


:cool:
 
:lol:
what was i doing watching those shows?
i guess spending time was better than not spending time
we used to be able to catch wgn on basic cable in oakland so we'd end up watching the bulls and the cubs

i used to be into wrestling
took me to see the lex luger fight tatanka at the coliseum
and then i realized it was fake
:(

:lol::lol::lol:
I've always been a fan and I didn't want to see Luger and Tatanka.
 
Honestly,

I was never really a fan of Clint Eastwood. However, did his speech or anti-Obama stance affect ability to stand to see him in film? Absolutely no.

The same thing can be said for Kelsey Grammer and John Voight. I could care less what their political stance is. As long as they deliver on the silver screen.
 
i hate white people and i go see their films all the time. if youre a straight white male from the 50s more than likely youre a racist and they get treated accordingly.
 
Gran Torino
In the Line of Fire
Absolute Power
Unforgiven

All very good movies. Clint's retarded speech will not change that.

this

like him or not

cracka-azz-cracka-azz-clint has some hits under his belt :dunno:
 
He's white so there's a 99% chance that he's racist but I didn't get that from your original post. This post just shows typical euro behavior. The Hmong actors shouldn't have expected anything different. White people make movies like Gran Torino to delude themselves and others into believing they aren't like that in general. I don't buy it...from my experience.


Gran Torino Actor Reveals Behind-the-Scenes Racism

BVang-400x280.jpg


The Multicultural Center put on a program that opened the audience’s eyes to the racial stereotypes portrayed in Hollywood films in addition to the unfair treatment that minority actors receive backstage. The program was held on Tuesday, January 18.
Bee Vang, actor and second-year student at Brown University, and Dr. Louisa Schein, Hmong media expert, discussed the truth of what happened behind the scenes of the movie Gran Torino.

Clint Eastwood’s Gran Torino is about a racist old man named Walt who overcomes his prejudice by helping his teenager neighbor Thao. Thao is part of the Hmong community, a small ethnic Asian group.

Though many of the people who have seen the film may have gotten a sense of satisfaction and joy from seeing that Walt overcame his racism, the people who acted as the Hmong members in the movie did not. They were offended by the traces of racism that were included in the movie and that they experienced themselves on set.

Vang, who played Thao in the film, said he and the other Hmong actors were treated unfairly. Eastwood would not allow them to tweak their lines (even though he claimed that he did allow them to when asked in interviews following the release of the movie) and would not give them any tips on character building.

The actors felt degraded when they were told to “make noise” by rambling words in their language. The Hmong actors were also left out by their fellow cast members who were white.

The cast members excluded them from cast events because they immediately assumed that Hmong actors were exactly like their character counterparts—unable to speak English clearly or to understand anything “American.”

Vang also mentioned that he was upset by the way the Hmongs were portrayed in the film. He did not want the Hmong community—his own community—to be seen in a negative light by the audience. He pointed out that tea ceremonies were not performed correctly, that some of their important political lines in the script were not subtitled into English, and that these inaccuracies led to misconceptions of the community.

UCSB first-year Jen Greenfield was surprised to hear about these truths.

“When I first saw Gran Torino, I thought that it was really good because I didn’t know about the whole background,” she said. “This discussion has made me realize that I do approach things with a white supremacy point of view. It was interesting to hear a different perspective.”
The movie itself contained many racial slurs about Asians that the speakers found insulting.

In the scene in which Walt takes Thao to his friend’s barber shop, Thao is called names such as “pussy kid,” “dick smoking Guk head” and “chink.” These degrading words imply that Asians are feminine and homosexual.

Vang explained that he accepted this role because he wanted to make changes to the script in order to get his view across that this discrimination was wrong.

“When I read the script, I thought that it was messed up,” he said. “I wanted to get the part and do something about it, but when I got there, I couldn’t.”

Unfortunately, no one can do much about the stereotypes because they go beyond Gran Torino.

The speakers note that many movies in which the original characters are supposed to be played by Asians are played by white people. These stereotypes are shown in movies so often that viewers may not even notice them or take them seriously.

UCSB English graduate student Ly Chong Janau recognized this observation and hopes that more people do, too.

“People pretend that they are in a society past racism, but that is not the case,” Janau said. “A lot of these stereotypes exist, but they are not acknowledged enough. It’s there all the time but there is a lot of resistance.”

In order to stop these racial stereotypes from being portrayed in movies, Vang and Schein propose that minority directors should get behind the camera and make movies to expose Hollywood, using the master’s tool against the master. They also suggest that people should speak out, both individually and in groups.

Vang wrote and directed his own parody of the barber scene in order to portray the stupidity of stereotypes. His spoof, which is on YouTube, switches the roles of Walt and Thao to exaggerate how ridiculous the situation is and to show that a dominant person cannot have power without having someone to oppress.

Schein thinks that videos like these are a good way to speak out against the media.

“Spoofs are effective even though they’ll take a long time to circulate through YouTube and create political intervention,” she said.
On the other hand, East Asian Studies Professor Mayfair Yang believes that speaking up in groups rather than by oneself would be a better way to get the message across.

“Each one of us has the opportunity to speak up. If we speak up together in organized groups, we can make a better difference over time,” said Yang.

MCC associate director Viviana Marsano, who is in charge of planning the MCC’s various events, was incredibly enthusiastic about providing this particular program.

“The content of this workshop is exactly what the MCC is about—breaking the stereotypes of colored communities and addressing the issues of sexuality and gender. It fulfills the mission of the MCC,” she said.

http://thebottomline.as.ucsb.edu/2011/01/gran-torino-actor-reveals-behind-the-scenes-racism
 
He's white so there's a 99% chance that he's racist but I didn't get that from your original post. This post just shows typical euro behavior. The Hmong actors shouldn't have expected anything different. White people make movies like Gran Torino to delude themselves and others into believing they aren't like that in general. I don't buy it...from my experience.

:yes:
That sounds more like Clint being a cranky, hard headed, arrogant, old White man who looks at those young guys like "Who the fuck are you to tell me, ME, about moviemaking?" Not saying he wasnt being a cracka but I'm sure if people were honest, there would be other stories like that from other actors who were White.
And you blame the cast's racist and ignorant behavior on Clint.
 
I don't like things I've been seeing Clint say for a few years now. I think he's talented as a director and marginally talented as an actor...kind of one note. I never was a big fan to begin with. From recent interviews as well as this RNC debacle, I perceive him as a disrespectful, right-wing racist moron. At this stage in my own life, if I don't have to give a CAC a pass, I won't. Things he's said in the past few years regarding race colors my perception of both him and his work. Knowing his expressed viewpoints makes me see the movie, Gran Torino in a different light. Not to mention the symbolism of him as Dirty Harry shooting down Black men portrayed as criminals - in a day in which those kind of roles (pimps, petty criminals, etc) were the only work open to most brothas in films directed by whites.
 
I never was.He's a terrible actor who damnnear played the same character for every movie,the scenes and actors changed but his acting didn't.But he didn't,same voice,same look,same manner-isms.
 
I grew up watching Hollywood Shuffle repeatedly so I was hip to his bullshit from an early age.
 
The only common ground me and Clint stood on was his love of Jazz music. He puts it in everyone of his films and Eastwood After Hours (Carnegie Hall concert featuring several Jazz artists) was epic. Beyond that, that fool can suck ass...
 
I can separate his political views from his work...

I still Fucks with Walker, Texas Ranger, too.
 
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