Are A Majority Of Women Lame When It Comes To Men?

[Lucky7s]

Wow!

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

Fairytale syndrome and The whole "the man must make the first step" syndrome.

Fact is...all most women do now a days is focus on looking good...and not on how to have a good conversation which isn't about the usual cliche topics u see on television with a man.

I saw some bullshit on tyra the other night. She is saying that there are Three words to get a man to like you : " You are hot"

The chick I'm kicking it with had this until she realized I was about to head out of the door after she couldn't find the "feeling she was looking for"


A LOT of women look for the perfect feeling when most times the person they wind up with was someone they had NO interest in at all....especially women...they get their wants confused w/ their needs ALL THE TIME

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

women are born with vaginas. By default they are excluded from the approach because we have what they want. Couple that with ego, insecurity, and a lifetime of being put on the pedestal with the, "you're a queen, you're a princess, you don't have to work for shit" notion embedded in their brains, and there you have it. There's no need to present an approach, because 9 times out of 10 one will be provided.

the solution to this mental state? Money.

While it may seem shallow, it holds very true. It shakes the very foundation they're built on and nothing commands more respect than that. Get that paper, and they will approach. No matter how much they may not want to or know how.

ha!

This man speaks the truth. I've seen it too many times to let anyone convince me that it is not true.


Edit: I think I'm going to type like this forever. How ya'll cats like my size 7 red font?

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

Fuck game. I was too inconsistent anyway.

I can consistently be myself, though.

If I get shot down, I understand that's a risk I'm taking and keep it moving.

 

[geist]

I hear a lot of niggas talking about having game and we had the whole Mouthpiece Vs. Looks disscusion. But am I the only one noticing that a lot of chicks have no mouthpiece whatsover and that their main game is just looking good and hoping a nigga come scoop them up and marry them. They seem to just wait for a dude to say something but some don't even know how to let a dude know that they feeling him. A lot of women expect that you know when she is ready. Women will not go out of their way like men do to find their ideal men. So I guess it's all on us niggas to go out here and open our mouth and holla.

This last part is key, it's always been like that. Look at the animal world, males do the courting, females do the choosing. It's the way nature intended it to be. You will have to step in there and spit your game, for the most part. Don't get me wrong, I've had females step to me and I've had females buy me lunch. I look at it as an unsual treat, especially if the woman is fine. You have to look for other more subtle signs, like touching and mimicking.

The second thing is a lot of females don't have a lot in the way of conversation. That's why for hundreds of years people believed women were inferior. But that's because they really don't need it. Just ask an average female (on your scale) how many times she gets hit on a day. I'm not talking about a dime, just an average female. This is why a lot of women get caught up with men that ain't about shit, because those are the men that will step to just about any and every female. It's the "Throw enough shit on a wall..." theory.

 

[freshnclean]

You see, often times, a woman that does make the first move is labeled forward or fast.

True, but at the same time, 9 times out of 10, women that make the first move get the type of man they want. As a result, they have more promising relationships than women that dont. Women that are afraid to be the aggressors in situations, will always find themselves settling for men they dont want. As a collective, I dont think the woman's ego is built for rejection, so its unlikely that the majority of them can play that position, like men do.

 

[freshnclean]

Hes saying that females want to scream equality only when it suits them. When it doesnt they want men to be chivalrus and place them on pedestals. If youre our equal, then you should approach us, much like you expect us to.

^^^This...

Simply just be yourself. You might get less women...shit you will get less numbers but the quality of women will change for the better.

..Quality > Quantity

Another thing many young black women tend to over evaluate their looks, got 5's thinking in their heart, they are at least a good 9, its almost like they are convinced that their looks is the only thing they have to offer, and rather that deal with who they are, they'll rather lie to themselves and others, to make themselves feel more acceptable.

Gotta fault the men for this, because we are the leaders. You got alot of dudes that have low standards, and dont wanna jeopardize their chances at getting the pussy, so they gas these broads up. Its a shame, because one of the things about attraction is, whether you are real or fake initially, it wont change her preference in you.

So why are you against simply saying "HELLO" to a man that you may find attractive?

Why do black women say that they can't find a decent man, when the refuse to even speak to a man first?

This is some real shit. Even worse, whenever you are friendly to some of the sistas, they put their heads down, or give off an uninterested demeanor. The irony is, thats usually the same chick that wants to be your girl....Lack of confidence and Social Skills send mixed signals to men.

 

[DeSiRe]

yes i think alot of women lack a mouthpiece...or what they think is a mouthpiece is consist of them barking orders

but honestly speaking tho i have found some men intimated or dumbfounded by a mouthpiece....yall say yall want the direct approach but get funny

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

True, but at the same time, 9 times out of 10, women that make the first move get the type of man they want. As a result, they have more promising relationships than women that dont. Women that are afraid to be the aggressors in situations, will always find themselves settling for men they dont want. As a collective, I dont think the woman's ego is built for rejection, so its unlikely that the majority of them can play that position, like men do.

You make this statement. Are there any facts and figures on this? Do you have any statistics that say, women who approach males first have longer lasting, better relationships than women who were approached?

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

yes i think alot of women lack a mouthpiece...or what they think is a mouthpiece is consist of them barking orders

but honestly speaking tho i have found some men intimated or dumbfounded by a mouthpiece....yall say yall want the direct approach but get funny

This is what i've heard and seen as well. There will be alot of "not me's" springing up to say this. And there will be some "you were approaching lames". Springing up. But i still believe that it's not really a woman's place to approach a male like this. The female presents to the male, or he approaches the female. This is part of the way females can tell if this guy is going to be a decent provider or not.

granted in this day of feminine so called males. I do understand that many females are confused and don't know how to properly behave in this enviornment. It's an unnatural 1.

 

[DeSiRe]

This is what i've heard and seen as well. There will be alot of "not me's" springing up to say this. And there will be some "you were approaching lames". Springing up. But i still believe that it's not really a woman's place to approach a male like this. The female presents to the male, or he approaches the female. This is part of the way females can tell if this guy is going to be a decent provider or not.

granted in this day of feminine so called males. I do understand that many females are confused and don't know how to properly behave in this enviornment. It's an unnatural 1.

lol u right..and its always the same deer in the headlight kinda looks

but i dont think there is anything wrong with being direct when needed....shouldnt be the default way to get things done as a woman....i feel like we have so many other ways to get what we want

 

[METHODIST]

yes i think alot of women lack a mouthpiece...or what they think is a mouthpiece is consist of them barking orders

but honestly speaking tho i have found some men intimated or dumbfounded by a mouthpiece....yall say yall want the direct approach but get funny

thats what men say but they don't really want to be approached by a woman. men with no confidence, men who are afraid of women, men who lack charisma and men who are horrible at attractin women say they want a woman to approach but in the end even those douches don't want a woman to approach. because men are hunters at the core and if a woman approached she takes away that from him. when that is taken away from for the most part he looses interest quickly.

women have game but its no mouth piece game like men, its different. such men as discribed above want women to act like men by having mouth piece game thats rubbish. such men expect women to throw their emotions/feelings aside and just say how they feel, watch football with them and be just like one of the guys.

let women be women and men be men

 

[mr_sparks]

This is one of the reasons why most of them are alone at30.Waiting for mr. right. when there looks and body fades its a wrap.

 

[LegalMoney]

i still believe that it's not really a woman's place to approach a male like this. The female presents to the male, or he approaches the female. This is part of the way females can tell if this guy is going to be a decent provider or not.

granted in this day of feminine so called males. I do understand that many females are confused and don't know how to properly behave in this enviornment. It's an unnatural 1.

I agree with the first bolded statement. I was always taught "men chase, women choose." That has, and will always be the doctrine. However, there is nothing wrong with a woman approaching a man, but IMO men should not expect this to be the general rule.

In my experiences, I've found that women and men have very differing expectations when they make the first move. When my partnas and I were out on the hunt, we didn't have high expectations of the women we went at. Those expectations were allowed to progress naturally.

However, my home girls have all types of outlandish expectations when they step to a dude. Because a dude may satisfy their physical requirements, they start projecting what they would like that image to sound like, talk like, move like, etc before a "hello". So with regards to females who have mouth piece and the dude appears "rattled", shit that may just be who that brotha is, not the smooth, GQ response they imagined.

 

[Rick Ronson]

no real pressure is put on a woman to be funny witty smart ambitious


its on her own if she is motivated to do so and if niggas kiss her ass
for being who she is then where is the strong motivation.

She has nothing to prove except that she can do her hair and dress.

thats the biggest difference


A sorry bitch will still get love.....a sorry nigga gets none.

 

[True Real Info]

its "women choose, men accept"...the "chase" is nothing but a man letting woman know that she has been accepted before she chose him...and many men will accept another woman at the same time as well,women can choose all day long but if the men are not accepting it will be in vain...

checkout any bitter and desperate chick over 30 for confirmation...

 

[DeSiRe]

thats what men say but they don't really want to be approached by a woman. men with no confidence, men who are afraid of women, men who lack charisma and men who are horrible at attractin women say they want a woman to approach but in the end even those douches don't want a woman to approach. because men are hunters at the core and if a woman approached she takes away that from him. when that is taken away from for the most part he looses interest quickly.

women have game but its no mouth piece game like men, its different. such men as discribed above want women to act like men by having mouth piece game thats rubbish. such men expect women to throw their emotions/feelings aside and just say how they feel, watch football with them and be just like one of the guys.

let women be women and men be men

love it...totally agree

 

[LegalMoney]

its "women choose, men accept"...the "chase" is nothing but a man letting woman know tha
t she has been accepted before she chose him...and many men will accept another woman at the same time as well,women can choose all day long but if the men are not accepting it will be in vain...

checkout any bitter and desperate chick over 30 for confirmation...

Damn, I like how you laid that out bruh. Bout to amend the doctrine lol

 

[Rick Ronson]

Keep in mind the government made laws to try to stop niggas from leaving bitches.

which means its always been a problem

think about that deeply

you are in total control until you marry or nut in a woman.

She has only the leverage/power over you that you give her until then.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

lol u right..and its always the same deer in the headlight kinda looks

but i dont think there is anything wrong with being direct when needed....shouldnt be the default way to get things done as a woman....i feel like we have so many other ways to get what we want

I hit on women, i come on to males only for fun. To goof off. When i do apply pressure, they buckle. I tell my young female charges constantly, always have. When you fully realize the power you have as a woman your force is quite formidable.

We have MANY ways to get what we want. MANY. And we have to teach our younger sisters the proper ways to use those abilities.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

thats what men say but they don't really want to be approached by a woman. men with no confidence, men who are afraid of women, men who lack charisma and men who are horrible at attractin women say they want a woman to approach but in the end even those douches don't want a woman to approach. because men are hunters at the core and if a woman approached she takes away that from him. when that is taken away from for the most part he looses interest quickly.This is all i keep trying to say. smh Only the weak wants the prey to come to them. smh

women have game but its no mouth piece game like men, its different. such men as discribed above want women to act like men by having mouth piece game thats rubbish. such men expect women to throw their emotions/feelings aside and just say how they feel, watch football with them and be just like one of the guys.

let women be women and men be men

 

[Alumni]

someone said it earlier...

women are conditioned to be passive or allow themselves to be prey when it comes to men

the aggressive ones are looked at like whores and often intimating

i think most men prefer a woman without a mouthpiece

I'm not sure where women are getting this foolishness from, but it is not true. This ideal likely came from other women, because women are quick to call another a woman a whore for doing things that she can't do for lack of courage or fear of rejection. If women get this out of their head they would likely have better chances at marriage or at having the man of their dreams.

Tell 'em again fam. They ain't listening .

no real pressure is put on a woman to be funny witty smart ambitious


its on her own if she is motivated to do so and if niggas kiss her ass
for being who she is then where is the strong motivation.

She has nothing to prove except that she can do her hair and dress.

thats the biggest difference


A sorry bitch will still get love.....a sorry nigga gets none.

TRUTH.COM

Like a female BGOLer said, why does she need to change her game up when cats are coming at her non-stop? I can't even be mad at her for saying that shit either... she's speaking the 100% gospel.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

I agree with the first bolded statement. I was always taught "men chase, women choose." That has, and will always be the doctrine. However, there is nothing wrong with a woman approaching a man, but IMO men should not expect this to be the general rule.I hear you. This is a new day and age. Not better. Just new.

In my experiences, I've found that women and men have very differing expectations when they make the first move. When my partnas and I were out on the hunt, we didn't have high expectations of the women we went at. Those expectations were allowed to progress naturally.

However, my home girls have all types of outlandish expectations when they step to a dude. Because a dude may satisfy their physical requirements, they start projecting what they would like that image to sound like, talk like, move like, etc before a "hello". So with regards to females who have mouth piece and the dude appears "rattled", shit that may just be who that brotha is, not the smooth, GQ response they imagined.

lmaoooo I can't even lie....the underlined part is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO true roflmao

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

I can't wait to Revisit this thread.

"working" right now.

 

[cincitystudios]

I've talked to more than my fair share of women... some approach me but most of the time I holla 1st... I think in those cases when women say they tried to get at a guy an he was acting lame, he probably just wasn't interested. That's happened a time or 2 for me.

I've also had chicks be forward who I was feeling an that was just as exciting...


basically I said all that to say, it comes down to the case by case basis...

 

[Mentor B]

Most of the time, I know when a woman is feeling me. I usually catch them hawking me heavy. Some of them actually initiate conversation with cool/mundane questions. The other chicks who keep starring but never even say a harmless what's up or hello to a nigga I deem as straight lame.

 

[UniqueStyles82]

no real pressure is put on a woman to be funny witty smart ambitious


its on her own if she is motivated to do so and if niggas kiss her ass
for being who she is then where is the strong motivation.

She has nothing to prove except that she can do her hair and dress.

thats the biggest difference


A sorry bitch will still get love.....a sorry nigga gets none.

C/S

its "women choose, men accept"...the "chase" is nothing but a man letting woman know that she has been accepted before she chose him...and many men will accept another woman at the same time as well,women can choose all day long but if the men are not accepting it will be in vain...

checkout any bitter and desperate chick over 30 for confirmation...

The fucking absolute truth. I've always thought that yeah the woman does choose the man but ultimately its the man who has to put the ring on her finger and propose.

As far as the thread topic, besides the whole who is pursued or pursuits, in terms of how women engage men, you can definitely make the case that women are lame. I've met chicks who had zero personality just in the way the conversation went. Just dull, bland, and boring. Call it social awkwardness. Call it whatever you want. Then you got the chicks who do talk alot with absolutely no substance. The worst ones are by the chicks who dont have no type of social/conversing skills but always feel the need to keep caling you and you have to pull teeth to get a conversation out of them. When I was younger didnt mind it so much but now that Im older that shit is for the birds.

A chick will cry about why they are never promoted from jump-off status. Well if a dude knows she aint nothing more than a skeet machine, then what would be the incentive to upgrade her.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

C/S


As far as the thread topic, besides the whole who is pursued or pursuits, in terms of how women engage men, you can definitely make the case that women are lame. I've met chicks who had zero personality just in the way the conversation went. Just dull, bland, and boring. Call it social awkwardness. Call it whatever you want. Then you got the chicks who do talk alot with absolutely no substance. The worst ones are by the chicks who dont have no type of social/conversing skills but always feel the need to keep caling you and you have to pull teeth to get a conversation out of them. When I was younger didnt mind it so much but now that Im older that shit is for the birds.

Back when I was first coming up, I thought I was the problem... Like I wasnt asking the right questions, or something... Chicks would literally just hold the phone and not say shit. Call YOU and not really say shit!!! Then the once I started dealing with more mature, well rounded women I noticed that convos would just flow, regardless of the subject matter. Most females lead boring lives by male standards, so thats the real reason for it. I mean cliche questions are one thing, in depth convos are entirely different. Lame females expect males to dominate every aspect of their lives, so most chicks feel like the status quo of us approaching them is fine, because on some real shit... Most chicks are just wack to talk to, most dont have the balls to walk up to a random dude and even say hello, let alone "holla." Chicks are hypocrites, love to talk the talk, but cant/wont even lace up their shoes to try to walk it. So they like to keep the "old way" intact as to not have to grow up emotionally...

 

[LSN]

That's why I value a chic w/ a fun personality and her wits about her

 

[True Real Info]

many women are lame when it comes to men but are experts when it comes to what they think is wrong with them....truth is alot of those older black women and even younger ones who throw dudes under the bus will not make 1/2 of 1/2 of the effort to meet a decent dude as men are told to when they want decent women.....



and threads like this need to be stickied more often..there is far to much diversity on this board in terms of opinion for us to sit on the gold mine...

 

[True Real Info]

Keep in mind the government made laws to try to stop niggas from leaving bitches.

which means its always been a problem

think about that deeply

you are in total control until you marry or nut in a woman.

She has only the leverage/power over you that you give her until then.

this is so true fam, alot of women think they have the game sowed up just b/c they use their pussy as bargaining chip...that shit only works for so long and is dependent upon the thirst of men...one reason why some women are so competitive with other ethnic groups for men in different groups is that they know that the mans options have expanded and they have dropped on his pussy quotient...


alot of women hide their lameness behind the damsel in distress hustle...see those girls from the ABC news special about "single and professional black women"...them chicks werent fooling anybody who paid attention....black men dont have that luxury, to play the victim even though its a boldfaced lie and still be believed so we have no sympathy for those women.....

from my experience and observation, an easy way to spot these lame broads is to let them define men as they choose, usually it will be men(-) and women (+)....they will blow their own egos up, like simp niggas and bitter niggas, and focus on the negative aspects of men...see oprah,and others...

 

[creepin]

I hear a lot of niggas talking about having game and we had the whole Mouthpiece Vs. Looks disscusion. But am I the only one noticing that a lot of chicks have no mouthpiece whatsover and that their main game is just looking good and hoping a nigga come scoop them up and marry them. They seem to just wait for a dude to say something but some don't even know how to let a dude know that they feeling him. A lot of women expect that you know when she is ready. Women will not go out of their way like men do to find their ideal men. So I guess it's all on us niggas to go out here and open our mouth and holla.

I call it player syndrome. Women mess with players that just want some poontang and they become lazy. He so-calls "puts it on them" so they do not have to do much but let him do his thang. These women in turn can not do a proper seduction or present themselves to a man properly. I have seen so many of these chicks that it makes me sick.

 

[Bigskinn2]

Bump

 

[HAR125LEM]

What's lame about the majority of Chicks these days is that Pussy is all they got to offer. Bitches don't have fuckin' anything else to contribute. And most of them know it. So they think that this puts them in control.

But fact is many men are starting to know this, and no longer want to be bothered. So the game has changed. And these lame-ASS Bitches are having a hard time dealing with it. Many men nowadays are focusing on taking care of their business first and foremost. Most women can't stand not being the focal point.

The only way they can deal with it is by labeling a buy a "fag" and shit. But that just shows how extremely juvenile they are.

Either that or become GAY themselves.
Which poses extreme irony.

 

[musicchick]

Yes but the feminist movement.. has rebuffed nature. Women have chosen not to play their natural roles, so hence here we are.
Our society has changed, to accomodate women in a variety of ways that go against the natural order of things.

So why are you against simply saying "HELLO" to a man that you may find attractive?

Why do black women say that they can't find a decent man, when the refuse to even speak to a man first?

On the contrary, I understand you completely. I have to play the game, but I still see flaws in it. Yes I understand that playing "eyetag," a smile, a "look," her walking close to you with out saying something is her telling you she wants your attention. But sometimes Ill ignore them just to see if they have the guts to speak. Those little "games" are for the birds, miss me with that shit. All you have to do is say hello and Ill do the rest, but some of you cant even do that. It seems like the vast majority of females overlook the fact that the ratio in most public places are atleast 2 to 1, so why play coy when you have more competition than I do???

yes i think alot of women lack a mouthpiece...or what they think is a mouthpiece is consist of them barking orders

but honestly speaking tho i have found some men intimated or dumbfounded by a mouthpiece....yall say yall want the direct approach but get funny

This is what i've heard and seen as well. There will be alot of "not me's" springing up to say this. And there will be some "you were approaching lames". Springing up. But i still believe that it's not really a woman's place to approach a male like this. The female presents to the male, or he approaches the female. This is part of the way females can tell if this guy is going to be a decent provider or not.

granted in this day of feminine so called males. I do understand that many females are confused and don't know how to properly behave in this enviornment. It's an unnatural 1.

thats what men say but they don't really want to be approached by a woman. men with no confidence, men who are afraid of women, men who lack charisma and men who are horrible at attractin women say they want a woman to approach but in the end even those douches don't want a woman to approach. because men are hunters at the core and if a woman approached she takes away that from him. when that is taken away from for the most part he looses interest quickly.

women have game but its no mouth piece game like men, its different. such men as discribed above want women to act like men by having mouth piece game thats rubbish. such men expect women to throw their emotions/feelings aside and just say how they feel, watch football with them and be just like one of the guys.

let women be women and men be men

Dhustla

^^^^ I have a problem with above three posts ^^^^

Ok, consider this... I'm a selfmade nigga. Always walked my own path, never taken the beaten path. Everything I have or have ever had, I worked for and/or made! A closed mouth don't get fed.
This applies for human beings! Men and women!
Life has taught me that you don't get what you deserve, YOU GET WHAT YOU WORK FOR!
So for me to want a bitch that doesn't have a problem opening her mouth and speaking to me means that I'm a weak, uncharismatic, non-confident, feminine male?

How 'bout I'm a boss nigga and I want a boss bitch that goes after what she wants in life!
If I can be self-employed, have enough confidence to put my nuts on the line when it matters, have the courage to build on my mistakes, the resilience to dig myself out of holes in life.... why don't I deserve a woman capable of, at the very least, saying "Hey, how you doing?" in passing on her way to the restroom? I'll catch her on the way back and take it from there! And I know I just said that people don't get what they deserve, they get what they work for, so this is me working for it... by not accepting just the smile, or the "eye games", by requiring that she, whoever she may be, have some self-sacrifice and put herself out there, even with the fear of rejection or let down, to make not only her presence known, but also her attraction to me. Requiring her to make that specific decision. Requiring her to have more than just generic marketing to get this "specialist".
Who is really the weak one in that situation? It ain't me because I'ma be aiight with or without the bitch.

no real pressure is put on a woman to be funny witty smart ambitious


its on her own if she is motivated to do so and if niggas kiss her ass
for being who she is then where is the strong motivation.

She has nothing to prove except that she can do her hair and dress.

thats the biggest difference


A sorry bitch will still get love.....a sorry nigga gets none.

love it...totally agree

Ay! Sit down somewhere.

Most of the time, I know when a woman is feeling me. I usually catch them hawking me heavy. Some of them actually initiate conversation with cool/mundane questions. The other chicks who keep starring but never even say a harmless what's up or hello to a nigga I deem as straight lame.

Call me whatever you want, but I've never been great at reading people. I've missed out on tons of pussy because of it.

I'm a literal person. I need it explicitly stated. I say what I mean and mean what I say... and that's how I like people to deal with me. Forthright.

Back when I was first coming up, I thought I was the problem... Like I wasnt asking the right questions, or something... Chicks would literally just hold the phone and not say shit. Call YOU and not really say shit!!! Then the once I started dealing with more mature, well rounded women I noticed that convos would just flow, regardless of the subject matter. Most females lead boring lives by male standards, so thats the real reason for it. I mean cliche questions are one thing, in depth convos are entirely different. Lame females expect males to dominate every aspect of their lives, so most chicks feel like the status quo of us approaching them is fine, because on some real shit... Most chicks are just wack to talk to, most dont have the balls to walk up to a random dude and even say hello, let alone "holla." Chicks are hypocrites, love to talk the talk, but cant/wont even lace up their shoes to try to walk it. So they like to keep the "old way" intact as to not have to grow up emotionally...

And this is what I'm talking about. One way to avoid these lame, wack women is to require more. Raise the stakes in an effort to get a thoroughbred! ( @ Preakness, DeSiRe)

What's lame about the majority of Chicks these days is that Pussy is all they got to offer. Bitches don't have fuckin' anything else to contribute. And most of them know it. So they think that this puts them in control.

But fact is many men are starting to know this, and no longer want to be bothered. So the game has changed. And these lame-ASS Bitches are having a hard time dealing with it. Many men nowadays are focusing on taking care of their business first and foremost. Most women can't stand not being the focal point.

The only way they can deal with it is by labeling a buy a "fag" and shit. But that just shows how extremely juvenile they are.

Either that or become GAY themselves.
Which poses extreme irony.

vvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvv

I hit on women, i come on to males only for fun. To goof off. When i do apply pressure, they buckle. I tell my young female charges constantly, always have. When you fully realize the power you have as a woman your force is quite formidable.

We have MANY ways to get what we want. MANY. And we have to teach our younger sisters the proper ways to use those abilities.

^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^