AOC - "Just a Regular Old Democrat Now" or "The ‘AOC Left’ Has Achieved Plenty"?

The left left the left quite a while ago.
Now the real left is the middle and if you don't succumb to any and every outlandish left idea, then you are called a Trump-loving fascist.
 
The left left the left quite a while ago.
Now the real left is the middle and if you don't succumb to any and every outlandish left idea, then you are called a Trump-loving fascist.

More often, I have read the same thing about the so-called right.

The truth is there is no universal middle.
 
More often, I have read the same thing about the so-called right.

The truth is there is no universal middle.
I respectfully disagree.
There is most definitely a middle. "universal" is your word of choice, not mine but the internet has exposed more people to much more than they would be exposed to without it, thereby numbing people to a lot that they shouldn't be numb to.
The left and the right both have some absurd ideas among their fringe elements and "progressives" get almost as aggressive as the so-called Trump tradcons when the middle doesn't shift to their way of thinking.

For instance, there is a section of the right that believes that women shouldn't have the right to vote. That's insane and the reasoning behind it is just as insane but they will say that shit with a straight face to you like they just said water is wet.

People who always attempt to blur the lines have an agenda in doing so. Most people have a mix of traditional and liberal views and that is the middle. Some lean more left like being more for social programs that help people in poverty or at a social disadvantage gain some ground and some lean more right like those who want the government to collect less taxes from the working middle class. There is validity on both sides of that.
The fringe shit is what gets sensationalized but both extremes stand firm on their own ridiculous notions and name-call anyone who doesn't agree with them.
 
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The U.S. is a white dominated ethno political system (virtual) that is one party versus Conservative/Progressive. Which means they will infiltrate the other political party that is populist with minorities and dissuade them from voting with candidates like Biden Hillary, Bill, and Obama. Biden picked a person polling at 2% which is Kamala Harris as his running mate, that is an obvious red flag.

Similar to robocalls you get before the election giving you misinformation or telling you will go to jail if you have outstanding warrants. These robocalls are usually targeted in predominately black areas of a city.

1. Poor speaking skills, not charismatic (Kamala Harris or Biden)
2. Have a background that includes supporting mass incarceration or segregationist
3. Lackluster policies on supporting social welfare

This is why you see TYT attacking Democrats trying to get you not to vote so that the white uniparty can win easily.
 
Notice how he keeps stopping to say it's not just the donors, but the voters.
Notice also that he references no specific poll.

AOC is on point. The legal challenges alone would DEFINITELY throw the election process into the courts.

Look at what the scotus JUST did.

Listen to what he says. I would wager he knows next to nothing about polling.
Yet he keeps invoking "the polling, the polling".

This is what happens when young educated white folks take over. They don't know jack shit,
think they know every goddamned thing, and are given license to proceed because they are white.

This is what is essentially behind the effort to remove Biden. Rich, young white liberals (who are liberal
as long as they are ultimately in charge).

Food for thought.
 
Notice how he keeps stopping to say it's not just the donors, but the voters.
Notice also that he references no specific poll.
This is what is essentially behind the effort to remove Biden. Rich, young white liberals (who are liberal
as long as they are ultimately in charge).


 
Notice how he keeps stopping to say it's not just the donors, but the voters.
Notice also that he references no specific poll.

AOC is on point. The legal challenges alone would DEFINITELY throw the election process into the courts.

Look at what the scotus JUST did.

Listen to what he says. I would wager he knows next to nothing about polling.
Yet he keeps invoking "the polling, the polling".

This is what happens when young educated white folks take over. They don't know jack shit,
think they know every goddamned thing, and are given license to proceed because they are white.

This is what is essentially behind the effort to remove Biden. Rich, young white liberals (who are liberal
as long as they are ultimately in charge).

Food for thought.

He was right about the Democratic party. They got rid of the voters' opinions many years ago and now they don't know what to do. They're lost.
 
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gtfoh

Results based on interviews with 1,253 U.S. adults conducted July 11-15, 2024 The margin of error is ±3.8 percentage points for the full sample.Source: The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research

...using a sample drawn from NORC’s probability-based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population.
 
gtfoh

Results based on interviews with 1,253 U.S. adults conducted July 11-15, 2024 The margin of error is ±3.8 percentage points for the full sample.Source: The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research

...using a sample drawn from NORC’s probability-based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population.

Yeah, that’s a good poll. You expect them to speak to 100,000 people? That’s not how polling works.
 
Yeah, that’s a good poll. You expect them to speak to 100,000 people? That’s not how polling works.
maybe more like 10k to 15k
ok -1273 sample to represent a voting pool that exceeds 150,000,000 voters....

statistics aside here is why its bullshit

-no demographic sampling info provided

- survey takers picked using probability
- NORC claims they recruit pool of survey takers using mail via usps (means they are blind to a huge swath of younger voters - which might explain the reason why pollsters were so wrong for the 2018 & 2022 midterms and 2020 general)
 
maybe more like 10k to 15k
ok -1273 sample to represent a voting pool that exceeds 150,000,000 voters....

Can you provide an example of a political poll that meets your standard of a 10-15K respondent sample?

pollsters were so wrong for the 2018 & 2022 midterms and 2020 general

Where do you get this idea that 2022 midterm polling was “so wrong”?
 
maybe more like 10k to 15k
ok -1273 sample to represent a voting pool that exceeds 150,000,000 voters....

statistics aside here is why its bullshit

-no demographic sampling info provided

- survey takers picked using probability
- NORC claims they recruit pool of survey takers using mail via usps (means they are blind to a huge swath of younger voters - which might explain the reason why pollsters were so wrong for the 2018 & 2022 midterms and 2020 general)
You only need 1,000 people. No more. However, the results heavily depend on who they polled. They can manipulate the data to fit any narrative.
 
You only need 1,000 people. No more. However, the results heavily depend on who they polled. They can manipulate the data to fit any narrative.
Bullshit.

1k people is a shitty sample size for a population of tens of millions.

HOW they polled determines WHO they polled.

Random selection is necessary (not that it matter with such a dismal sample size), and soliciting
responses via U.S. mail is NOT random, as those of us who are poor are far likely to be transient.

They are essentially polling those most likely to respond in kind with their political positions and assumptions.

You basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about, yet you keep talking.

Hmmmm.

You under suspicion.
 
Bullshit.

1k people is a shitty sample size for a population of tens of millions.

HOW they polled determines WHO they polled.

Random selection is necessary (not that it matter with such a dismal sample size), and soliciting
responses via U.S. mail is NOT random, as those of us who are poor are far likely to be transient.

They are essentially polling those most likely to respond in kind with their political positions and assumptions.

You basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about, yet you keep talking.

Hmmmm.

You under suspicion.
I hate stupid people. I really do.
:smh:
 
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I hate stupid people. I really do.:smh:

I interpreted stats for a living after getting my second degree.

What is your experience with polling? What backward assed school of economics, business,
or education taught you that a sample size of 1000 is all that is needed to generalize to a population
of several million?

Hate yourself if you must.

My sources are graduate level classes in multivariate analysis, among
other social science oriented statistical methodologies, leading to my second degree combined with a few years actually writing surveys.

The weakness in your argument was pointed out earlier by someone else.

Where did you get your expertise?
 
I interpreted stats for a living after getting my second degree.

What is your experience with polling? What backward assed school of economics, business,
or education taught you that a sample size of 1000 is all that is needed to generalize to a population
of several million?

Hate yourself if you must.

My sources are graduate level classes in multivariate analysis, among
other social science oriented statistical methodologies, leading to my second degree combined with a few years actually writing surveys.

The weakness in your argument was pointed out earlier by someone else.

Where did you get your expertise?
Kid, you are not intelligent enough to speak to me about anything. Go back to drinking bleach or sniffing glue or whatever or it is you do for your weekend entertainment.
 
Kid, you are not intelligent enough to speak to me about anything. Go back to drinking bleach or sniffing glue or whatever or it is you do for your weekend entertainment.

I notice you have not challenged my contention.

You don't know what you are talking about.

I'll take being called kid.

Cheers.
 
I notice you have not challenged my contention.

You don't know what you are talking about.

I'll take being called kid.

Cheers.
Dude has a weird superiority complex. Tried to hang 2 degrees over my head, but then got his feelings hurt when I work for a top 5 company in the world, and he cant even get paid for said degrees.

Theres a lot of generation X black men who have thrown away the opportunities given to them in this country, and try to cling to credentials or "Intelligence" to hold over on other black people.

Think this, but in a 1st world country:
 
Dude has a weird superiority complex. Tried to hang 2 degrees over my head, but then got his feelings hurt when I work for a top 5 company in the world, and he cant even get paid for said degrees.

Theres a lot of generation X black men who have thrown away the opportunities given to them in this country, and try to cling to credentials or "Intelligence" to hold over on other black people.

Think this, but in a 1st world country:



Actually, 3. More like 3 degrees.

Yes, I am intelligent. You are not.

It has nothing to do with degrees.

Look at the record.

I write like a man with evidence to support his reasoning.

You write like a 50 year old waste of ribonucleic acid, still sitting on his
momma's front porch every day "philofosizin'" about what black
folks should do between sips of liquid crack.

I got no problem with it. Keep talking.
 
Actually, 3. More like 3 degrees.

Yes, I am intelligent. You are not.

It has nothing to do with degrees.

Look at the record.

I write like a man with evidence to support his reasoning.

You write like a 50 year old waste of ribonucleic acid, still sitting on his
momma's front porch every day "philofosizin'" about what black
folks should do between sips of liquid crack.

I got no problem with it. Keep talking.
Oh you are the same as him....a troll.

Gracias.
 
Bullshit.

1k people is a shitty sample size for a population of tens of millions.

HOW they polled determines WHO they polled.

Random selection is necessary (not that it matter with such a dismal sample size), and soliciting
responses via U.S. mail is NOT random, as those of us who are poor are far likely to be transient.

They are essentially polling those most likely to respond in kind with their political positions and assumptions.

You basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about, yet you keep talking.

Hmmmm.

You under suspicion.

What is a sample size you'd respect for a national poll?
 
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