AOC: "In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party"

They're no different than the Trump supporters. They live in a bubble.
Once to move outside of that little world, then they will discover that the world is much larger.
And this is the problem. They want EVERYTHING their way nit realizing that shit won y fly in the district of their fellow congressman. And they won t listen to reason.
 
What these progressives dont understand is that they hang their fellow democrats in red and purple districts out to dry with their bullshit.

"Fellow Democrats."

These people would leave you out to hang literally if it played well in their districts.


 
That progressive shit is why congress is coming down to two run off elections in which democrats likely will lose.

What agenda is getting done now with Mcconnell holding the Senate hostage. I ll wait?
doesn't change the point...ADOS is progressive
 
The autopsy is on the losses in the House
and less on the senate
Exactly. Most of the Senators are trailing the top of the ticket in the statewide count and Dems still are in control of the house. Although even they lost seats.

The progressive left is killing this party on the purple and red states which are needed for any agenda to have even a remote possibility of happening.
 
"Fellow Democrats."

These people would leave you out to hang literally if it played well in their districts.



I don t think you all get it. Laws get changed when you have enough votes. You all on the left have to work with these folks to get your agenda done. Wake up.
 
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I don t think you all get it. Laws get changed when you have enough votes. You all on the left have to work with these folks to get your agenda done. Wake up.
and how does the agenda of reparations for black Americans and tangibles for us work in all of this???
 
you think some majority white district in anywhere USA sees a difference??
Fuck the majority white districts .......the modern day progressive movement doesn t compare to the anti slavery abolitionist movement.... crying because they want wind energy doesn t compare FOH man.
 
"Fellow Democrats."

These people would leave you out to hang literally if it played well in their districts.



You can not get to the meat and oatagoe if you are on the outside of teh farms and slaughter houses. Liberals are dreaming and taht coukd for when you a kid but when you grow up to be a adult. You have to kove out of the dream world and into the practical world.
The dem party has been comprised, just like the so called "black leaders" have been compromised. The dems have to stop placating to the far left and "black leaders" have stop fighting for everybody and focus on black folk.

It easy to see why dems have been losing because you can't win a fight with one hand tied behind your back and lead shoes on your feet. We need representatives that actually represent us and not people who simply talk loud.
 
Fuck the majority white districts .......the modern day progressive movement doesn t compare to the anti slavery abolitionist movement.... crying because they want wind energy doesn t compare FOH man.
your missing the point of the political strategy of it... you said it before but when the focus is on things YOU believe in now suddenly its a different thing. you think the push for reparations and the push for the green new deal are different when pelosi et al politically sees them as radical non starters...you can try to nuance the argument if you want to but YOU KNOW that's the political reality...
 
AOC is intelligent, political astute with regards to organizing, and still mad at her? Trump won with FORCE and quick wit. Folks always talk about how Dems need to be harder and tougher...welp here she is. She is the only one talking about what Black people have EARNED and deserve, she calls out Republicans on bullshit and tackles Democrats that are already capitulating to big banks (Jefferies). Shit I am conservative on most things military, immigration and fiscal, but fuck all this make friends with Republican zealot bullshit.

Centrist Democrat can't find friends in insane Red locales, its a waste of time and funding..see Kentucky. 140 million wasted.

We had Al Franken and sacrificed for a white female. Now what do the dems have to fight Mcconnell? Id take her in the Senate Bill over Shumer. Id take her as House leader over fucking Pelosi.
100% Truth!
 
The progressives should start the ground work. For starting a new party. Because the democrats clearly don't give a fuck about them. And it will be their downfall.
Trump’s removal will jump start the “purple party”.

I wonder what side BGOL political pundits will join? :rolleyes:
The hate for Trump is keeping this shitshow together. Someone tell me what in theeeeeee fuck AOC/Squad have in common with Joe/Harris/Pelosi other than hatred for Trump.

The dems going to need a new boogerman to keep them together and that potential boogeyman is Mitch. Instead of trying to compromise with Mitch, Biden can choose to say he'll do what the far left wants knowing Mitch will play boogeyman. That will keep them as one. Choosing to compromise with Mitch ain't going to fly with AOC and the far left. It will cause a big divide.

Them far left folks who dominate social media are addicted to the likes. Think they going to give that high up now that Trump is gone? AOC has a fucking army at her command and FOX follow her to pump up anything see says or does. On paper, Pelosi and Harris got the juice, but AOC got that 2020 social media power on fucking lock. With Trump gone, she is the social media of DC.

It's going to be interesting. AOC the young, hungry capo. Can the old OGs get her to fall in line and play the game?
 
The AOC/Squad/far left vs Biden/Harris/Pelosi wars will be epic. With Trump out the way, the moderates getting all that heat. :popcorn:
Pelosi and Biden are going to prevail. Someone needs to shut that
fucking waitress down. Defund the police and their reckelss bs
cost the Democrats ... This is America, and when you weaken your
own side, Donald Trump wins
 
AOC is intelligent, political astute with regards to organizing, and still mad at her? Trump won with FORCE and quick wit. Folks always talk about how Dems need to be harder and tougher...welp here she is. She is the only one talking about what Black people have EARNED and deserve, she calls out Republicans on bullshit and tackles Democrats that are already capitulating to big banks (Jefferies). Shit I am conservative on most things military, immigration and fiscal, but fuck all this make friends with Republican zealot bullshit.

Centrist Democrat can't find friends in insane Red locales, its a waste of time and funding..see Kentucky. 140 million wasted.

We had Al Franken and sacrificed for a white female. Now what do the dems have to fight Mcconnell? Id take her in the Senate Bill over Shumer. Id take her as House leader over fucking Pelosi.
AOC gets away with her reckless bullshit because she is New York.
 
your missing the point of the political strategy of it... you said it before but when the focus is on things YOU believe in now suddenly its a different thing. you think the push for reparations and the push for the green new deal are different when pelosi et al politically sees them as radical non starters...you can try to nuance the argument if you want to but YOU KNOW that's the political reality...
The polical reality is that you don t have enough votes which makes it fantasyland.
 
The hate for Trump is keeping this shitshow together. Someone tell me what in theeeeeee fuck AOC/Squad have in common with Joe/Harris/Pelosi other than hatred for Trump.

The dems going to need a new boogerman to keep them together and that potential boogeyman is Mitch. Instead of trying to compromise with Mitch, Biden can choose to say he'll do what the far left wants knowing Mitch will play boogeyman. That will keep them as one. Choosing to compromise with Mitch ain't going to fly with AOC and the far left. It will cause a big divide.

Them far left folks who dominate social media are addicted to the likes. Think they going to give that high up now that Trump is gone? AOC has a fucking army at her command and FOX follow her to pump up anything see says or does. On paper, Pelosi and Harris got the juice, but AOC got that 2020 social media power on fucking lock. With Trump gone, she is the social media of DC.

It's going to be interesting. AOC the young, hungry capo. Can the old OGs get her to fall in line and play the game?

I am far from the AOC camp and I will have a problem with comprising, just for comprising sake. The republicans have had their fill for over a decade. No way should the dems compromise with mitch and he doesn't do the same in return. I say fuck mitch and that the dems should get whatever they can get done, done (even by way of executive order). If Mitch wants to contiue to be a bitch. Then the dems need to do like Trump did and continue campaigning against the republicans until they have the majority.
 
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I swear the progressive movement is full of dense people. You are verbalizing shit that congressmen in red and purple districts can t sell.

NEWSFLASH: The mindset of the purple and red districts aint changing in 2 years when those congressmen have to run for reelection. So what's the plan????????

Is it to sit there scream and cry about a world you wish was?
 
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Pelosi and Biden are going to prevail. Someone needs to shut that
fucking waitress down. Defund the police and their reckelss bs
cost the Democrats ... This is America, and when you weaken your
own side, Donald Trump wins
She ain't about to shut up now. The last 10 months of her backing Biden and falling in line as good as it gets.

What's keeping Pelosi up more at night these days? A 2021 with Mitch or dealing with AOC questions every day in 2021? :lol:
8 am far from the AOC camp and I will have a problem with comprising, just comprising sake. The republicans have had their fill for over a decade. No way should the dems compromise with mitch and he doesn't do the same in return. I say fuck mitch and that the dems should get whatever they can get done, done (even by way of executive order). If Mitch wants to contiue to be a bitch. Then the dems need to do like Trump did and continue campaigning against the republicans until they have the majority.
Say man, I 1000000 agree with you. Fuck a Mitch. Man I can't say that loud enough. Fuck a goddamn Mitch. Don't give that bitch shit. Make this the most miserable 2 years of his fucking punk ass life.

I just am going over the scenarios in my head on how this all going to play out.
 
Very much really. Calling something different names doesn't speak to if people care about the cost or not.
Example Hialeah, FL
The city is almost entirely right wing Cuban
It also leads the nation in Obamacare enrollment
 
Example Hialeah, FL
The city is almost entirely right wing Cuban
It also leads the nation in Obamacare enrollment
That means nothing. They're looking at their wallets and making a choice thatbit is cheaper and better for their family to have Obamacare, than to not haven't it. That's beyond what the name of the program/law and whether or not it's called Obamacare or the ACA.

Let me put it to you like this. If you plan taking friends out to eat and you say we going to the no niggas allowed restaurant. You'd get a negative feedback on that choice. Yet if you say you were going to Waffle House, you get a better response.
Now you go to the restaurant and you're planning of picking up the tab. Now do you tell everybody that fact before or after the bill is put on the table?

Here's the likely scenario that would happen if you would tell them beforehand. A good number would starting things they would not have ordered and more of it. If you tell them afterwards...what they would have done on their own tabs would be conservative compared to what they did on your tab.
 
And noone is addressing this fact.
Most elected officials are in same districts with a few being thrown to the wolves. What need to happen to get a better representation of the people is for a nonpartisan group of people or better yet a computer program that logs in the data and draws up a nonpartisan district map.
Now you'll have most representatives in a competitive race.
 
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