Any of you mess with 'Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide'

[John_Gault]

what a bunch of bullshit.



not so fast. The op made a post asking if anyone on the board is fucking with this stuff. I posted that i am. And so far i'm the only one doing so, op included.


I also posted what my results are so far. I can't speak for the claims the op states (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence). . . . But, i can speak on what my personal experience is thus far.

Fuck what you talkin' bout, i'm going hoopin' again.

And like i said in previously in this thread, i'm gonna post my results, and folks can make up their own mind. I couldn't care less, i'm sharing that's it. I got no horse in this race.


there's no magic pill or formula to good health. It's like everything else in life. You have to work for it or at least be smart enough to convince someone else to do the work for you i.e. Scams

i agree with this as well.

. . . .

Jg

 

[Mixd]

What a bunch of bullshit. There's no magic pill or formula to good health. It's like everything else in life. You have to work for it or at least be smart enough to convince someone else to do the work for you i.e. scams

I swear. If I didn't have any morals, I'd be a preacher or a televangelist.

You're right, it must be bullshit as all the claims on this page:
http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/hydrogen_peroxide.html

or the many who must be lying they cured herpes here:
http://www.racoon.com/dcforum/DCForumID7/811.html

or even the doctors who said they cure cancer here
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/HydrogenPeroxide.html
http://wup-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=12101


but still don't bother to look into this, I simply asked about it cause found no one else on BGOL posted anything about this. I'm not claiming there is no miracle drug, but the evidence is there that thousands have been healed by this, just google it. They weren't just treated of a disease, completely cured. I have not taken this nor claimed to be using it, just was surprised the brothas or sistas on the board have not posted anything on this.

Don't sleep on this...

 

[Mixd]

excerpt from the last link I posted

http://wup-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=12101

Let me first introduce the topic to you. I've done a little research, and I have found some really interesting information about treatments of various diseases including the incurable ones"". There is also a widely known subject surrounding the conspiracy done by the FDA and pharmaceutical companies who only seek profit. I'm not gonna talk to you about the conspiracy, I'll just give you some information about the curing effects of Hydrogen Peroxide, better recognized as H2O2.

It has been discovered that people with cancerous cells have varying levels of cancer growth due to the amounts of oxygen in the body. Cancer cells enjoy an environment with LESS OXYGEN as it allows them to grow more efficiently. Cancer also enjoys highly TOXIC body, thus it cannot survive in high ALKALINE based body.When oxygen is around cancer cells, it kills them off slowly and the body discards the cancerous growths with time. Special treatments including hydrogen peroxide can make it possible for patients with cancer to become survivors.

This is not the hydrogen peroxide that you will find in grocery stores or at the pharmacy. This is a food grade Hydrogen Peroxide I'm talking about.

Cancer, bacteria and viruses do not have an enzyme coating and are oxidized on contact with O1. The best sources of reactive oxygen are ozone, hydrogen peroxide and magnesium peroxide. The growth of cancer cells is initiated by a lack of oxygen. Lack of oxygen and high levels of acidity usually go together. All normal cells require oxygen. Deprive a cell of 60% of its oxygen and it will turn cancerous. Cancer cells can live without oxygen. Cancer cells will not survive in an oxygen environment. Cancer and all diseases do not like oxygen. Many of the new "miracle" drugs and nutritional supplements used to treat these conditions work by increasing cellular oxygen. Hydrogen peroxide is only one of the many components that help regulate the amount of oxygen getting to your cells.


David Farr, M.D., PhD. of the Genesis Medical Research Institute in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma is a major pioneer in the use of hydrogen peroxide to combat a variety of diseases. He claims that H2O2 therapy regulates tissue repair, cellular respiration, growth, immune function, the energy system, most hormone systems, and the production of cytokines. He also uses H2O2 therapy as a defense against bacteria, viruses, yeast, and parasites. Dr. Farr states that "there are few side effects with hydrogen peroxide therapy. In rare cases, inflammation of veins at the site of injection will occur. Some of the MANY conditions that Dr. Farr treats with H2O2 therapy:

* AIDS
* arthritis
* cancer
* candidiasis (yeast infection)
* chronic fatigue syndrome
* depression

Doctor Farr has use intravenous injection of Hydrogen Peroxide. However hydrogen peroxide can be home made. It can be also taken orally and topically, on the skin. There is a protocol using it orally :

There is a lot more to discuss about this topic, but this is just an insight so you can understand the basics. IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO USE H2O2, YOU WILL HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS. THERE ARE SEVERAL H2O2 TREATMENTS, BUT YOU WILL NEED TO KNOW EXACT INFORMATION HOW TO USE IT AS THE MISUSE CAN CAUSE YOU SERIOUS PROBLEMS.

If you need the treatment protocols, I willing to show you.

Salamualaykoom

 

[Sango]

 

[Naha-Nago]

hmmmm.

*two cents*

 

[da_monumental_1]

MaxD, the article you posted that cites the work of David Farr can't even get the actual man's name right.

It's not David Farr, it's Charles Farr. He was a known quack.

When a reputed doctor makes statements like, "no longer is the double-blind study the gold standard in medicine", that person is full of shit.

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JG, this is a scam that is over 50 years old. Any feeling of euphoria/extra energy you might think you feel is the result of a placebo.

http://www.sram.org/1101/charlesfarr.html

 

[John_Gault]

MaxD, the article you posted that cites the work of David Farr can't even get the actual man's name right.

It's not David Farr, it's Charles Farr. He was a known quack.

When a reputed doctor makes statements like, "no longer is the double-blind study the gold standard in medicine", that person is full of shit.

Agreed

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JG, this is a scam that is over 50 years old. Any feeling of euphoria/extra energy you might think you feel is the result of a placebo.

http://www.sram.org/1101/charlesfarr.html

Da_monumental1,


As a skeptic, I generally dismiss claims UNLESS supported by something substantive and tangible to back them up. I'm not familiar with Charles Farr. . . Actually, it was as I was attempting to debunk the hp claims myself that I came across information that gave me pause. I thought it was bunk, because it offered up TOO many claims of extraordinary benefits at such a minimal cost (and I'm not just talking price).


That said, a placebo CANNOT cure rheumatoid arthritis . . . not saying I'm cured . . . but I am saying that in the many places where I experienced ACUTE pain and inflammation, I am no longer having that experience. My girl noticed I had lost swelling in my feet and other areas. I can't speak about cancer, hiv, candida or herpes . . . as I don't have these issues. And I'm not using an IV, I essentially make hp spiked distilled water . . . I was only looking for a way to manage my pain without ibuprofen every other day. This just happens to be working out.

I actually asked 'Tical' to chime in and explain to me, from a bio chemistry perspective, what this could mean. Which I hope he does. Call it snake oil if you want, but my pain has been eliminated or greatly diminished and there's been a visceral change in my range of motion an flexibility. If I somehow 'psyched' myself out of that much daily pain . . . I'm a bad mu'phuka or hypnosis is a cure all arthritis sufferers should get. However the jury is still out for me since I'm not done with this stuff yet.

JG

 

[DM5]

Man, Ya'll just finding out about this? Been using this shit for about 6 years on and off. H202 kills virtually every bactiera,virus or cancer known to man. It super oxgygenates your blood stream. As some one stated earlier, all bacteria, viruses and cancer cannot live in a highly oxygenated environment. Do a google on ozone therapy! Doctors in Germany use Ozone/H202 to heal cancer & HIV patients all the time! It also kills Herpes & HPV. The medical establishment does not want us to know about these alternatives like Mixd said because they won't make one red cent off of it! Also do a google on the Bob Beck protocol and Rife protocols!

 

[tical]

Doesn't "help" cleanse you. No disease can live in an body with oxygenated cells. NONE.

The reason we get cancer and all the other diseases is due to oxygen deprived to cells. AIDS and everything else cannot survive in an oxygenated cell, so it is annihilated.

This is why for many years the drug companies been shooting this down. They can't make money off this, so they make up claims that this is BS. But in Europe over 15k doctors have been treating patients successfully with it. They dont want us in the US to learn about this. People start curing themselves, then they will have to stop making drugs for every fricking lil thing. We wont have any probs.


I lost family members in the past along with friends to all kinds of ailments, we all have. I think you should all send the ebooks to your friends, family. Show them the truth and don't keep them on a life of poppin pills and being sick forever. Wish I knew about Peroxide a long time ago.

Man, Ya'll just finding out about this? Been using this shit for about 6 years on and off. H202 kills virtually every bactiera,virus or cancer known to man. It super oxgygenates your blood stream. As some one stated earlier, all bacteria, viruses and cancer cannot live in a highly oxygenated environment. Do a google on ozone therapy! Doctors in Germany use Ozone/H202 to heal cancer & HIV patients all the time! It also kills Herpes & HPV. The medical establishment does not want us to know about these alternatives like Mixd said because they won't make one red cent off of it! Also do a google on the Bob Beck protocol and Rife protocols!

I will read through this thread, get caught up and then offer any meaningful prospectives i can on the subject. But i must address what is highlighted above first and foremost! Simply put either DM5 or especially Mixd where are you getting this information from?

**Update**

After watching the video i can make a few points:

First, a few drops of Hydrogen Peroxide added to water...okay let take a look at this reaction:

H-O-O-H + H-O-H ---> H-O-O + H3O+(HYDRONIUM);
This results in a propagation reaction as the (-) charge on the "O” element is not stable! Thus, ultimately it gets ingested as it constituent compounds (HOOH + H20).....Now the fun and unknown part as it goes through the digestive tract;


DM5/Mixd? Care to take it from here describing some of its possible interaction with natural flora that inhabit that region? the good and the bad, please?

 

[Mad Genius]

MaxD, the article you posted that cites the work of David Farr can't even get the actual man's name right.

It's not David Farr, it's Charles Farr. He was a known quack.

When a reputed doctor makes statements like, "no longer is the double-blind study the gold standard in medicine", that person is full of shit.

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JG, this is a scam that is over 50 years old. Any feeling of euphoria/extra energy you might think you feel is the result of a placebo.

http://www.sram.org/1101/charlesfarr.html

So you think JG's claims are a placebo effect? Give me some of that placebo then. Dude said he was living with pain everyday and now the pain is gone. There is obviously something greater at work here.

You might want to read the PDF that has a ton of case studies and doctor statements. Or not. But I think there is alot to the claims made for HP. Pretty much sounds like the same effects you get from a raw foods diet. Without the raw foods.

 

[Mixd]

@ tical, if you have the time RTFM

cause neither one of us is gonna break down biology lol.

 

[tical]

@ tical, if you have the time RTFM

cause neither one of us is gonna break down biology lol.

Ofcourse, as expected! Further for the record this would be BIOCHEMISTRY.


***Update 2***
It’s always interesting to me how many posters make these bold scientific claims, but yet when pressed to explain “how” it works, they tend to fold up.

1) What i wanted from mixd/d$% was to explain how a compound like HOOH with no surface appendages or universal conformation(no such thing) can differentiate between the numerous amounts of “the good and the bad microbes that thrive in that normal flora?” Hell, how does it tell the difference between “the good and the bad cancer?”, “viruses” which are particles(not built on cells)? In biology and biochemistry there are two methods for specificity

exhibit a: In something like a protein= Its conformational shape.
exhibit b: In microbe its appendages derived from glycocalyx= Capsule/S-layer etc
exhibit c: Antibodies fall between a and b


2) Query: Why does virtually every eukaryotic cell have a specialized organelle (Peroxisomes) strictly devoted to dealing with detoxification? In the case of our subject matter the enzyme “catalase” is employed reducing HOOH ---> H2O + Alkyl Group. The point is most likely having xxx concentration of HOOH floating around in the body is deleterious. Which brings me to a 3 thought:

3) Because of it non-specifity (killing good and bad cells etc) and others mentioned above apparently in the medical community its not the recommended antiseptic anymore

 

[Mixd]

Tical, the book here can break down why it works

http://www.foodgrade-hydrogenperoxide.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/TheTruthAboutFGHP.pdf

Have told you to read it. I am not technical in biochem, so can't answer what happens in a chemical reaction when it dissolves in H2O. The book can.

You asking someone on a porn board why nature works in certain ways? I'm not technically inclined to do so, nor have the mental energy to want to argue the why. I didn't write the book, someone who is technical in that aspect did. So read it, if not, I'm the wrong one to ask.

But like I said, I simply asked why no one on this board brought this up or spoke on Peroxide b4, I have seen countless people on forums saying they healed themselves of countless diseases with this. The only ones discrediting the findings seems to be the gov't or drug companies, cause they are in jeopardy of people self healing themselves. They in turn can't make money off this and can't stop allowing manufacturers to make this, as practically every product we use today is cleaned inside with hydrogen peroxide cause it kills bacteria. Things like many food product, milk, juice and many containers our foods are sold in stores is cleaned with it.

As for it damaging good flora, it does not, it does no harm internally when used as the doses as told 3-25 drops in 8oz of distilled water. It enriches a cell. The Lourdes, in France is one of the highest concentrations of hydrogen peroxide in water in nature. Many natural sources in the world produce H2O2 naturally.

as for Peroxisomes, if you don't want to read the book, here's an excerpt:

PEROXISOMES

The next time that you visit your doctor, I suggest that you
ask them to tell you everything they know about peroxisomes!
My guess is that you will be greeted with a blank
stare followed by the question: “What is a peroxisome?”
Such is the pathetic state of the education provided by our
medical establishment. Peroxisomes are extremely important
compartments (organelles) that are located within every
cell of your body (except red blood cells). Some very
important processes (over 50) take place within these little
chemical plants which get their name (peroxisome) because
their activities produce and utilize peroxide.

Most textbooks completely ignore peroxisomes. Take a look
at a traditional diagram of a cell and you will probably see
that peroxisomes are nowhere to be found. Even if they are
included, they will probably be treated as if they are unimportant.
This is unfortunate, because every cell in your body
(except red blood cells), contain not one, not a few, but hundreds
of peroxisomes. Peroxisomes are very abundant in the
liver and kidneys where they actively detoxify a variety of
compounds. Peroxisomes also manufacture numerous
important compounds including bile acids (to aid digestion),
phospholipids (to build cell membranes) and DHA (a vital
omega-3 fatty acid that is found in the brain, nerve cells and
the retina of the eye).

Your body is supposed to be able to “burn” fat in order to
generate energy and heat. This process is known as the
“beta-oxidation of fatty acids”. Did you know that this happens
within peroxisomes? Does your doctor know this?
Obesity is a major epidemic in this country. Are you overweight?
Are you often fatigued? Do you often feel cold?
Maybe your peroxisomes are not functioning up to par!
When people first begin using hydrogen peroxide, one of
the most common reports is that they notice that their
body temperature rises. This is often misinterpreted as a
“fever” but, in fact, it is simply an indication that their former,
sluggish, hydrogen peroxide deprived metabolism is
finally kicking into gear. Do not be afraid of this rise in
temperature. It is a sign of improved health. Soon after,
users of hydrogen peroxide tend to notice increased energy
levels and reduced levels of body fat!

We have all heard of the dangers of artificially hydrogenated
oils (trans-fatty acids) and we have all been
warned about naturally occurring saturated fatty acids as
well. Did you know (and does your doctor know) that
enzymes found within your peroxisomes remove hydrogen
atoms from saturated fats (de-hydrogenation) and
then combine these hydrogen atoms with oxygen to produce
hydrogen peroxide?

(hydrogenated fatty acids)H2 + O2 >
(de-hydrogenated fatty acid) + H2O2)

Other enzymes found in peroxisomes function to break
down uric acid, amino acids and oxalate (which can combine
with calcium to form kidney stones). Energy (in the
form of ATP) which is released from all of these reactions
is exported out of the peroxisome into the cell for any and
all of its energy needs.

CATALASE
Another very important enzyme found in peroxisomes is
known as catalase. Catalase takes the hydrogen peroxide
created in the above mentioned reactions and uses it to
detoxify numerous compounds including alcohol, phenols,
formic acid and formaldehyde through a process
that, predictably, is known as the peroxidation reaction.

(toxic compound)H2 + H2O2 >
(de-hydrogenated toxic compound) + 2H2O

 

[Mixd]

Also Charles Farr wasn't a quack. The gov't will try and discredit people like him if he makes too many headlines as someone's out there curing people without drugs that they can push and keep you on to make you keep big pharm rich.

another excerpt:
http://www.tolifehealth.com/HydrogenPeroxideTherapy.html

Hydrogen peroxide therapy is not new. It has been around since 1929 when doctors had no antibiotics available. It was first reported by Dr. T. H. Oliver in Lancet, The British Medical Journal! (Oliver TH, Cantab BC and Murphy DV. Influenza / Pneumonia: The Intravenous Injection of Hydrogen Peroxide, Lancet 1, 1920:432-433.) Antibiotics were discovered twenty four (24) years later.

Charles Farr, MD is generally considered to be the pioneer and father of oxidative medicine in the United States. He took patients dying from influenza pneumonia and gave them hydrogen peroxide therapy. Almost half of those patients lived. Influenza killed 30-40 million people worldwide and actually stopped World War 1 because the world was sick.

Remember that this is a treatment that predates antibiotics! We are also currently losing our effectiveness of antibiotics. This occurred as early as two years after penicillin was discovered and began being used. So, this treatment is certainly worth your consideration as it worked then and works now.

Hydrogen peroxide is a natural substance manufactured in all of our bodies. It is a product of what is called intermediary metabolism in the body and it participates in a significant number of biochemical reactions in the body. However, when we infuse hydrogen peroxide into your vein, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) considers this natural substance to be a “drug”. As such, the FDA considers its use in an intravenous form to be experimental. This does not mean that the procedure is illegal or dangerous or harmful-just unproven to the FDA. Aspirin, our old friend, is also an unproven drug to the FDA but it has been around for over 100 years now. As the procedure is not approved by the FDA your insurance company will not pay for the treatment.

In hydrogen peroxide therapy we are interested in the redox (oxidative-reduction) reactions involved. This is the chemical reaction whereby electrons are removed (called oxidation) from chemicals in the body being oxidized and transferred to other atoms which are being reduced(reduction). The body causes a rapid reduction of hydrogen peroxide to water and oxygen-the two components which actually compose hydrogen peroxide- by an enzyme called catalase. This enzyme is found in most body tissues.

Catalase is the enzyme which is of the oxidative-reductase class which catalyzes(breaks down) the reaction of hydrogen peroxide plus water to oxygen plus two water molecules. Catalase is found in nearly all cells and organs and acts as a catalyst in the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide. When hydrogen peroxide comes into contact with catalase, the catalase enzyme breaks down the hydrogen peroxide to oxygen and water. This increased presence of oxygen creates the oxidative reactions which chemically increase the positive charges on an atom or the loss of negative charges. Most biological oxidations are accomplished by the removal of a pair of hydrogen atoms (dehydrogenation) from a molecule. Such oxidations must be accompanied by reduction of an acceptor molecule (Dorland’s Medical Dictionary-27th edition).

The aim of this increase in oxidative reactions in the body is to help regulate tissue repair, cellular respiration, immune functions, the energy system, most hormone systems and the production of cytokines. Cytokines are no-antibody proteins released by one cell population on contact with specific antigens which then act as intercellular mediators to generate the increase in immune response. This is the body’ mechanism of self-help and improved immunity or resistance to disease.

The oxidation created in the body by hydrogen peroxide therapy changes the chemistry of the body from reduction reactions and acid pH to oxidative reactions and basic pH. This creates theoretically more oxygen than that of a very expensive hyperbaric oxygen chamber.

Many medical studies demonstrate that hydrogen peroxide therapy stimulates the immune system, kills a dozen different pathogenic bacteria and many viruses as well as many yeast and fungi. It helps to improve circulation and helped to clear arteries like chelation does in our experience. Debris deep in the lungs has the ability to be expelled instead of chronically being stored as the chemistry of the body changes. Many chronic pains are relieved for as yet unknown reasons.

Emphysema, asthma and chronic lung disease respond very well to hydrogen peroxide therapy. You will end up coughing up the debris at the base of your lungs. You will end up coughing more instead of less for awhile. However, that is what you want to do to clean out your lungs of all the debris from our dirty environment. It may take several treatments for this to occur or it may occur on the first treatment.

Many patients find that their blood pressure is actually brought down to a better level with hydrogen peroxide. The reason is yet unknown. However, we have a lot of unknowns in medicine despite our current trend toward evidence based medicine.

The normal course of therapy for lung problems is weekly for at least ten treatments over a period of ten weeks. Remember, that lung disease is a chronic problem. Do not expect any treatment to work instantly. Chronic problems require chronic treatment.

Hydrogen peroxide can help change the pH of the system so that the body can better fight cancer cells also. This is considered by many to be controversial. However, cancer cells don’t like the extra oxygen created with hydrogen peroxide therapy. They also don’t like the change of the acid base chemistry since the pH of the body returns to normal. Cancer cells seem to survive better in an acid media.

With hydrogen peroxide therapy, the acid media of cancer is gradually changed toward normal basic pH of the body (7.35-7.45). The oxidation created in the body by hydrogen peroxide changes the chemistry of the body from reduction reactions and an acid pH to oxidative reactions and a more basic pH-more nearly normal.

Other types of problems respond to hydrogen peroxide therapy as well. Each problem has to be handled individually. Sometimes, a combination of hydrogen peroxide therapy and chelation usually works best. Each case must be individually evaluated. Remember all these problems are chronic. Short therapy does not work!

Acute problems such as colds or flu may respond in as little as one to two treatments.

Nutritional supplements are a necessary fact of life today. They are necessary for your health and recovery from disease. What you need will be discussed with you on an individual basis. Supplements are not optional!

What are the risks involved with hydrogen peroxide therapy? The most common side effect with any IV (intravenous) therapy is vein inflammation and some pain with the infusion at the site of the needle or the vein. You may also experience vasculitis and / or thrombophlebitis. Sometimes this goes away in twenty minutes and other times the needle location has to be changed. An occasional patient may experience chest discomfort including a shortness of breath feeling. We slow the infusion rate down when this occurs and just wait and observe. Usually nothing else needs to be done.

Occasionally patients may experience a feeling of chills as hydrogen peroxide is an exothermic reaction (gives off heat) which decreases the body temperature on a short-term basis. Part of this reaction is included in what is known as a Herxheimer reaction. It is perfectly normal.

Whatever your problem if you choose to consider hydrogen peroxide therapy, you must be seen by Dr. Resk first for an examination and evaluation..

Sometimes, depending on the condition, we can start you on hydrogen peroxide immediately. If the problem is chronic or serious we will need some lab work drawn prior to initiation of any treatment.

 

[malaki]

man quit drinkin that poison

fuck a pdf....drink some fucking coconut water

 

[redcee]

hyperbaric chamber

 

[New York's Tyrant]

Will look into this..

 

[quickflip]

for those who are trying it where did you get it from?...what brand?

 

[nimrod-x]

Back in Atlanta, I worked for a Doctor. His name was Eddelson. He was into holistic medicine, I was into getting paid. I found myself preparing all types of concoctions for him. I did ozone treatments, chelations, and the like. He also worked with DMSO and MSM with chondroitin. I quit after some issues at the job.
A few years later I discovered that some of the stuff he used actually worked and went to talk to him about them, I kept seeing other doctors refer to him and him unorthodox techniques.When I got to the Eddelson center I noticed his name was gone from the building. I went inside and found out the FEDs got him. He was fukkin up their money by showing folks how to heal themselves and avoid getting sick. It's a crazy worldd we live in.

 

[John_Gault]

for those who are trying it where did you get it from?...what brand?

I use a brand called Oxy Tech. They're based in Texas.

JG

Btw, the bottle came rubber banded with these directions:

 

[tical]

I use a brand called Oxy Tech. They're based in Texas.

JG

Btw, the bottle came rubber banded with these directions:

Yo JG, what the hell?

 

[Mixd]

I found this spot selling them 1/2 gal for $27.99 with 5.99 shipping

http://www.thebetterhealthstore.com...oxide-35-Food-Grade-12-Gal-Liquid-1-Half-Gall

But they have one quart and 4oz. sizes as well

UPDATE: I just ordered some from this site, and this PROMO CODE on checkout worked for me RMN055
Got it from RetailMeNot.com saves you 10%

 

[John_Gault]

Yo JG, what the hell?

. . . I scanned them in UPRIGHT . . . but the pic host had different plans.



But yo man, all jokes aside. Can you posit an explanation as to how this 'seems' to be working? By my count I've avoided, conservatively, at least 20 GRAMS of ibuprofen over the past 3 some odd weeks. And I haven't changed my diet or eating/drinking habits.



JG

 

[Mixd]

. . . I scanned them in UPRIGHT . . . but the pic host had different plans.



But yo man, all jokes aside. Can you posit an explanation as to how this 'seems' to be working? By my count I've avoided, conservatively, at least 20 GRAMS of ibuprofen over the past 3 some odd weeks. And I haven't changed my diet or eating/drinking habits.


JG

It's the placebo effect, don't worry about it, your illusions of grandeur will soon pass... (sarcasm)

 

[John_Gault]

It's the placebo effect, don't worry about it, your illusions of grandeur will soon pass... (sarcasm)

As long as the painlessness doesn't pass I'm GOOD!


JG

 

[John_Gault]

Back in Atlanta, I worked for a Doctor. His name was Eddelson. He was into holistic medicine, I was into getting paid. I found myself preparing all types of concoctions for him. I did ozone treatments, chelations, and the like. He also worked with DMSO and MSM with chondroitin. I quit after some issues at the job.
A few years later I discovered that some of the stuff he used actually worked and went to talk to him about them, I kept seeing other doctors refer to him and him unorthodox techniques.When I got to the Eddelson center I noticed his name was gone from the building. I went inside and found out the FEDs got him. He was fukkin up their money by showing folks how to heal themselves and avoid getting sick. It's a crazy worldd we live in.

Please elaborate.

JG

 

[redcee]

Back in Atlanta, I worked for a Doctor. His name was Eddelson. He was into holistic medicine, I was into getting paid. I found myself preparing all types of concoctions for him. I did ozone treatments, chelations, and the like. He also worked with DMSO and MSM with chondroitin. I quit after some issues at the job.
A few years later I discovered that some of the stuff he used actually worked and went to talk to him about them, I kept seeing other doctors refer to him and him unorthodox techniques.When I got to the Eddelson center I noticed his name was gone from the building. I went inside and found out the FEDs got him. He was fukkin up their money by showing folks how to heal themselves and avoid getting sick. It's a crazy worldd we live in.

http://www.heroturko.com/documentaries/1269662-cancer-is-serious-business-full-documentary.html

 

[Mixd]

^^^^^I posted a link previously in an earlier post where to buy some.

and here's another "placebo" guy I saw a vid of on Youtube

 

[therealjondoe]

Sounds a lot like sun gazing lol

 

[quickflip]

Did you ever buy from here?

I did...it took 2 days

 

[Mixd]

Did you ever buy from here?

Yeah I bought it, started taking this Monday. Took 3 days to come last week. They have a chart on their site to tell you the timeframe.

I'm now on my second day using this.

I have been using it as drops orally and using it at 3% as a debriding agent orally b4 brushing. Will update the progress. But personally don't have any ailments. Just want to be sure. My mother in law is taking it as she has a thyroid condition and started the same time as myself. I am confident this is going to help her out.

Both my kids have sickle cell which is why I wanted to look into this as a form of helping them if they ever have a crisis or as maintenance. I have been looking at Alkaline/Acid diets or nutrition and came across this as this is what many holistic docs use in therapy.

 

[Lucky7s]

This is what you can rinse your mouth with or pour into your bath water and soak. They say the cleaning effects of all the toxins and mites that live on your body are killed.

What fuckin' mites? I bathe twice a day! Post a link to this fuckery!!! I could see in the hair/scalp maybe, most black folks don't wash their hair every day...

 

[Andros the magician]

Yea that article hits it on the head.

It still amazes me in this day and age that people will damn near believe, try, and follow anything they see online. Cures cancer? Stops disease? How can some of you be that stupid?

When I was in the military and was apart of drill cadre, I would often be around the new recruits. Usually, once every few days, someone would collapse or pass out from the heat or being pushed to hard. So the paramedics would come out and inject saline into their veins but they would tell the recruits it was antibiotics to get them on their feet. Within moments, they would start to feel better, walk, and were ready to get back in formation. All from self healing from their minds, thats it. (placebo) Although, they swore up and down, it was the medication they received. Ha no.

This nonsense is under the same psychological basis. People risking their health for some get healed scheme they came across online. Instead of a proper diet, proper hygiene, physical activity, and normal visits to their doctor. Seeing a professional that has been trained for years how to treat, medicate, and heal people.

Damn I need to write up some nonsense so I can make some money off of you people.

 

[Andros the magician]

Please read this people.

The FDA is warning people not to buy or ingest high-strength hydrogen peroxide for medicinal purposes.

High-strength hydrogen peroxide has been falsely touted to treat AIDS, cancer, and other serious illnesses, but it has no approved medical uses, says the FDA.

In fact, high-strength hydrogen peroxide may kill or cause serious harm if ingested, even if it is labeled "food-grade," according to the FDA.

Drinking high-strength hydrogen peroxide can cause gastrointestinal irritation or ulcers. Taking it intravenously can inflame the blood vessels at the injection site, cause bubbles in blood vessels (gas embolisms), and prompt potentially life-threatening allergic reactions, the FDA warns.

The FDA's advice: If you're using high-strength hydrogen peroxide for medical reasons, stop immediately and call your doctor.

Warnings to Sellers

On July 19, the FDA issued warning letters to two Texas-based online marketers of high-strength hydrogen peroxide: Frad-35, Inc. and DFWX.

According to the FDA, the two firms' web sites were illegally selling "35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide" to treat AIDS, cancers, emphysema, and other serious and life-threatening diseases.

"This concentration is not approved by FDA for any purpose," says Steven Galson, MD, MPH, in an FDA news release. Galson directs the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research.

"No one has presented any evidence that hydrogen peroxide taken internally has any medical value," Galson continues. "In fact, consuming hydrogen peroxide in the manner touted by these web sites could lead to tragic results."

High-strength hydrogen peroxide has never been approved by the FDA for internal use. It's more than 10 times stronger than the solution used in over-the-counter drugs to disinfect minor cuts.

Dangerous to Use

It is also highly corrosive. The FDA considers the substance to be dangerous, even if handled according to manufacturers' directions.

This isn't the FDA's first warning about high-strength hydrogen peroxide.

In April 1989, the FDA issued a news release about the illegal promotion of industrial-strength hydrogen peroxide to treat AIDS and cancer. That warning followed at least one related death in Texas and several injuries requiring hospitalization.

http://www.webmd.com/news/20060728/high-strength-hydrogen-peroxide-danger

I feel as much as I love getting good advice here and the good times, that I owe it try and educate some of you. I mean really, look at this thread. Some people took a glimpse at this nonsense and were 100% ready to commit to trying it.

Dammit people.

Stop believing every damn thing you read online. Research it, research it, research it, and then search for some more information. Check the sources of the articles and credibility of the websites they are being posted on. Most importantly, stop instantly believing any damn thing you see on you-tube!

Dammit I expect more from you people.

 

[Mixd]

What fuckin' mites? I bathe twice a day! Post a link to this fuckery!!! I could see in the hair/scalp maybe, most black folks don't wash their hair every day...

Yea that article hits it on the head.

It still amazes me in this day and age that people will damn near believe, try, and follow anything they see online. Cures cancer? Stops disease? How can some of you be that stupid?

When I was in the military and was apart of drill cadre, I would often be around the new recruits. Usually, once every few days, someone would collapse or pass out from the heat or being pushed to hard. So the paramedics would come out and inject saline into their veins but they would tell the recruits it was antibiotics to get them on their feet. Within moments, they would start to feel better, walk, and were ready to get back in formation. All from self healing from their minds, thats it. (placebo) Although, they swore up and down, it was the medication they received. Ha no.

This nonsense is under the same psychological basis. People risking their health for some get healed scheme they came across online. Instead of a proper diet, proper hygiene, physical activity, and normal visits to their doctor. Seeing a professional that has been trained for years how to treat, medicate, and heal people.

Damn I need to write up some nonsense so I can make some money off of you people.

Here's a list of doctors i just googled real quick

http://www.oxygenhealingtherapies.com/my_ozone_doctor.com.html

Fail to realize, there's no money for physicians, big pharmaceutical companies and hospitals if we are all healed, so they try to suppress this info, but medical findings over and over show that it works.

Here's a link to over 5k articles on Hydrogen Peroxide therapy from US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=hydrogen%20peroxide%20therapy