Any Ivy League Heads?

[jucurious]

You non-comprehending ass broad...doing too much as usual talking about I need to read.

I CLEARLY stated that I was talking about graduate degrees...I also CLEARLY stated that they would need THREE years experience to be a principal making about $85k in the Atlanta area...furthermore I was referring to an assistant principal...I didn't differentiate for convenience's sake when typing. People know you start out as AP first...cuz Principals here make $100k.

The point I was making was that Berkley Dude's starting salary wasn't ALL that for a person with a master's degree from a so-called "elite institution"...and that others in HIS field and OTHER FIELDS LIKE EDUCATION from so-called "lesser schools" were doing just as good as the salary he felt like could be commanded with a degree from UC Berkley.

WTF does a field being saturated have to do with any thing...the OP didn't ask about specific majors he was asking if the Ivy League degrees were worth it to which the obvious answer is yes but Berkley Dude chimed in his two cents about a starting salary of just $85k with no experience...like that's Ivy League money and it ISN'T not with a fucking MBA!!! LMAO...again, you doing too damned much.

And who the fuck is this "friend" you keep asking about?

The experience factor was already addressed in my previous posts...I see he ain't come back in here disputing shit I said...but here YOU go.

GTFO telling me shit I already know about principal certs.

yeah and what u r doing is back peddlin

my point was the quality of comparison

you can be a first time high school principal

you can be a first time assistant principal

there's a difference

also, a doctorate principal is more than likely gonna get paid more than a master's principal in addition to having experience

WHICH

the other poster said that his base salary had NONE of



so now that i have stated my point

i agree to disagree

 

[TENT]

Hmm. Brother Heist how off putting. You are the one being ignorant my man. Ignorant to my statement and it's meaning. Who one chooses to network with an associate with is his choice. If you wanna hang out with drug dealers and thieves then you will get the best prices on drugs and stolen shit if you network with them properly. If you have no need or value for those things then you will not do so.

Same goes for entertainers and their circle. I am sure the networking that Jay Z did with the likes of Diddy and Steve Stoute has afforded him the opportunity to make the deals that he has.

Fucking with Barack Obama and his elite circle did nothing for Jay Z so I don't know why Jay would need or want to hang with "Barack and his elite circle.

That is why is said , " 'fuck' Barack and his elite circle". I was speaking figuratively not literally or even specifically. Sorry you did not catch my sarcastic tone. It is not 100% your fault you responded the way you did.....To fully understand me. You would have no know me personality or "know" me as a writer........

So basically to sum it up. You are the ignorant one. Sorry for not fully explaining myself I take some of the blame. But you are hasty and illogical.

There is such a thing as a self made man so again. I say fuck a elite circle. I dont need to beg friends. People beg to be my friend. I work for people and I have people who work for me.

You lack logic Heist or you aint using it tonight... you need to work on that, dog.

Fuck Barack and his elite circle?

Dog, you know what - you just said the most ignorant, inane shit I've ever heard. Don't go to college. You don't get it.

An elite circle will make life so that you DON'T EVEN NEED MONEY.
It truely will have the value to you of what it is ... nothing.

Connections and contacts are WHAT IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT.
That's the true extrinsic value in a college education / Ivy League education.

There's nothing wrong with being successful and wanting to achieve financial success but the money isn't everything....
And if you go in with that approach, if everyone sniffs you to be a money grubbing whore, you'll start to find more doors closing in your face than opening.

 

[TENT]

I also know that if there is strong enough need... qualifications can be overlooked if even for a short time.

Back peddling how?

If you disagree then just say THAT...experience vs no experience and STFU.

You came up in here with all this EXTRA bullshit...posting job qualifications and what not.

 

[Heist]

Hmm. Brother Heist how off putting. You are the one being ignorant my man. Ignorant to my statement and it's meaning. Who one chooses to network with an associate with is his choice. If you wanna hang out with drug dealers and thieves then you will get the best prices on drugs and stolen shit if you network with them properly. If you have no need or value for those things then you will not do so.

Same goes for entertainers and their circle. I am sure the networking that Jay Z did with the likes of Diddy and Steve Stoute has afforded him the opportunity to make the deals that he has.

Fucking with Barack Obama and his elite circle did nothing for Jay Z so I don't know why Jay would need or want to hang with "Barack and his elite circle.

That is why is said , " 'fuck' Barack and his elite circle". I was speaking figuratively not literally or even specifically. Sorry you did not catch my sarcastic tone. It is not 100% your fault you responded the way you did.....To fully understand me. You would have no know me personality or "know" me as a writer........

So basically to sum it up. You are the ignorant one. Sorry for not fully explaining myself I take some of the blame. But you are hasty and illogical.

There is such a thing as a self made man so again. I say fuck a elite circle. I dont need to beg friends. People beg to be my friend. I work for people and I have people who work for me.

You lack logic Heist or you aint using it tonight... you need to work on that, dog.

What you just wrote was the most illogical dribble I've read since AIG said they were giving out bonuses. My head hurt trying to understand all your contradictions and misinformation/misunderstanding.

You clearly said, FUCK BARACK AND HIS ELITE CIRCLE.
What's to be misinterpreted in that?


You say fuck an elite circle? Why's that? Because you can't get in one?
You make it seem like having an elite circle is a BAD thing...
That's like saying fuck a Rolls Royce ... because you want to build your own car. Which is fine...but it still be far from a Rolls.

Then you go into some pantomime about wanting to be "self made."
If such is the case, fuck it --- you're whole thread is MOOT because you've already made up your mind. As I said, Ivy Leagues really do nothing more in the beginning then open some more doors and give you some alternative windows of opportunity and contacts.

But like I said in reply to one of your responses - some people are always trying to ice skate uphill.
If I know taking course: X will get me closer to my goals easier and leave me with alternatives, than plowing headlong into course: Y, then I'd be foolish (or headstrong) to take Y.
Again, if you go back to my original response - it's why I would go to Georgetown and Wharton for their recruitment fairs vs. my school's.


Beg for friends? What?!
You think socializing is begging?
People BEG to be your friend? C'mon pal, get off your pedestal.


Hanging out with Barack was supposed to immediately do "something" for Jay-Z? Huh?
Jay didn't start doing anything for Barack until 2007. Until then, he probably thought a Barack Obama was some new designer who's jeans or shoes he had to rock.

You make certain contacts not for what they can do you now - but how an association with them may help you in the future. And often contacts outside your "circle" helps you help people in need which in turn often open doors and brings new opportunities your way which you would have NEVER known about.

It's one of the ways I landed two positions over the last 7 years. Just being in different circles outside of my normal clique of friends and industry associates.

 

[BullaCake]

I’m at CU; as in Cornell University. I Got a B.S and working on a Masters.

In short! I think it is worth going Ivy even if you have a lot of loans. Understand that these schools have very large endowments and if you know how to work the system you can graduate with very little money to pay back.

For instance, I came from a busted ass high school, graduated valedictorian picked up a few scholarships to help out with college tuition. Now I only have 700 worth of loans after finishing undergrad, I also got a fellowship for grad school too.

As for the Ivy name, it’s like no other; people take you seriously because of your potential. However, sometimes this can be bad.

 

[TENT]

Wow. Like I said reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

What you just wrote was the most illogical dribble I've read since AIG said they were giving out bonuses. My head hurt trying to understand all your contradictions and misinformation/misunderstanding.

You clearly said, FUCK BARACK AND HIS ELITE CIRCLE.
What's to be misinterpreted in that?


You say fuck an elite circle? Why's that? Because you can't get in one?
You make it seem like having an elite circle is a BAD thing...
That's like saying fuck a Rolls Royce ... because you want to build your own car. Which is fine...but it still be far from a Rolls.

Then you go into some pantomime about wanting to be "self made."
If such is the case, fuck it --- you're whole thread is MOOT because you've already made up your mind. As I said, Ivy Leagues really do nothing more in the beginning then open some more doors and give you some alternative windows of opportunity and contacts.

But like I said in reply to one of your responses - some people are always trying to ice skate uphill.
If I know taking course: X will get me closer to my goals easier and leave me with alternatives, than plowing headlong into course: Y, then I'd be foolish (or headstrong) to take Y.
Again, if you go back to my original response - it's why I would go to Georgetown and Wharton for their recruitment fairs vs. my school's.


Beg for friends? What?!
You think socializing is begging?
People BEG to be your friend? C'mon pal, get off your pedestal.


Hanging out with Barack was supposed to immediately do "something" for Jay-Z? Huh?
Jay didn't start doing anything for Barack until 2007. Until then, he probably thought a Barack Obama was some new designer who's jeans or shoes he had to rock.

You make certain contacts not for what they can do you now - but how an association with them may help you in the future. And often contacts outside your "circle" helps you help people in need which in turn often open doors and brings new opportunities your way which you would have NEVER known about.

It's one of the ways I landed two positions over the last 7 years. Just being in different circles outside of my normal clique of friends and industry associates.

 

[TENT]

Thanks for your input Bullacake. This is what I am talking about a specific personal response.

What was your undergrad GPA if you dont mind. I am curious.
Also are you Jamaican?

I’m at CU; as in Cornell University. I Got a B.S and working on a Masters.

In short! I think it is worth going Ivy even if you have a lot of loans. Understand that these schools have very large endowments and if you know how to work the system you can graduate with very little money to pay back.

For instance, I came from a busted ass high school, graduated valedictorian picked up a few scholarships to help out with college tuition. Now I only have 700 worth of loans after finishing undergrad, I also got a fellowship for grad school too.

As for the Ivy name, it’s like no other; people take you seriously because of your potential. However, sometimes this can be bad.

 

[TENT]

One thing I have realized; alot of the jerkoffs that graduate from these schools think that they are the smartest, most logical people on earth.

They fucking love to argue thinking that they are always write about shit.

The love to fucking post up some citations and "argue the facts"

If they were to take a standardized test in reading comprehension they would realize that they are not as smart as they appear.

All the big words and tests and research paper don't stop you from being a fucking asshole....

 

[ditto101]

One thing I have realized; alot of the jerkoffs that graduate from these schools think that they are the smartest, most logical people on earth.

They fucking love to argue thinking that they are always write about shit.

The love to fucking post up some citations and "argue the facts"

If they were to take a standardized test in reading comprehension they would realize that they are not as smart as they appear.

All the big words and tests and research paper don't stop you from being a fucking asshole....

lol.. on the one hand you wanna be one of them..

on the other hand you despise them...

haha.. u seem real conflicted......


just do you homie damn..

 

[jwilliam85]

I came in here hoping to hear brothers sharing their ivy school experinces and its so ironic this thread turned out to be one of the most ignant' threads I read today.

 

[Heist]

lol.. on the one hand you wanna be one of them..

on the other hand you despise them...

haha.. u seem real conflicted......


just do you homie damn..

We have a winner!

 

[Heist]

I came in here hoping to hear brothers sharing their ivy school experinces and its so ironic this thread turned out to be one of the most ignant' threads I read today.

The OP has made it such.

We tried to give him some honest insight ...

Then he turned around and started blasting...

Weird.

 

[TENT]

Where did I say I despise them.
Where did I say I wanna be one of them?

You seem like you are a bit of a moron. I could be wrong but I think I am right.

Go read where I said why I created this post.

lol.. on the one hand you wanna be one of them..

on the other hand you despise them...

haha.. u seem real conflicted......


just do you homie damn..

 

[TENT]

Oh please go on with your bullshit. We got two or three assholes just wanting to argue with the fucking OP which be me!

My fucking thread so break the fuck out if ya dont like it.

I came in here hoping to hear brothers sharing their ivy school experinces and its so ironic this thread turned out to be one of the most ignant' threads I read today.

 

[ditto101]

Where did I say I despise them.
Where did I say I wanna be one of them?

You seem like you are a bit of a moron. I could be wrong but I think I am right.

Go read where I said why I created this post.

your tone on that post "a lot of the jerkoffs from these schools....."...seems one of anger and resentment at them...

u say they have an elitist attitude when in reality they're not worth much...but yet you wanna join that club...thats the main purpose of this thread isnt it... u're asking ppl who are in this "club" to give their opinion of it cuz you're on the fence about joining them...

if you dont want to join them..then i ask you what the purpose of this thread is...?

 

[BullaCake]

Thanks for your input Bullacake. This is what I am talking about a specific personal response.

What was your undergrad GPA if you dont mind. I am curious.
Also are you Jamaican?

3.4 and yea