ANOTHER PLANE CRASH 2/10/2025 Scottsdale Arizona

[KA$H]

My dad was a pilot & instructor...

See. That's dope. I've been considering taking flying lessons for the last few months. I hope to start some time this year. Especially since I see that one could purchase a Cessna 340 for under $200K ($150K+ or so) & a private airport by me has hangar space for rent for around $500/month and under, with tie down spots for like a $150/month and less. Airports further out are under $300/month for hangars. Maintenance and gas are the only downside. That can get costly, depending. However; date night is going to hit different. Jokes

And honestly; all these recent crashes haven't deterred me from wanting to learn to fly. If anything it's bolstered my resolve.

 

[Drayonis]

I hate that this is the flavor of the month in news cycles now. Planes used to crash all the time before. Especially the smaller jawns due to pilot error, but it never made it to be national news. Feels like we're about to hear about all of them until Trump does something else. Then that thing will trigger the new buzz words that they'll use to spark fear in the hearts of the people.

News outlets probably love that he's back in office. People are tuning in on an hourly basis to see what new stupid thing he's doing to fuck people over.

Right up there with shark attacks and the debate on brand muffins.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Please stop...
Globally, there are around 3,700 car accidents that result in death every day. This means that about 1.35 million people die in car accidents each year.

Car Accident Statistics you Need to Know in 2024 | Darrigo & Diaz

In the U.S., a car accident occurs every 13 minutes. Don't be part of these car accident statistics. Please drive safely.

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The global aviation industry operates around 100,000 flights per day, but there are usually fewer than 50 commercial aviation accidents each year.

Aviation and Plane Crash Statistics | Updated 2025

Statistics and facts about aviation accidents worldwide, including private and commercial aircraft. Up to date list with the latest data.

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Bit of context.

70 million people commute by cars every day. Meanwhile, there's people who have never flown in a plane before in their lives.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

If you get into a minor car accident, you most likely can survive if your plane drops out of the air you have little no chance of surviving

Even if you survive a minor car crash it could cause a life-changing injury or life-changing financial crisis

 

[PlayerR]

See. That's dope. I've been considering taking flying lessons for the last few months. I hope to start some time this year. Especially since I see that one could purchase a Cessna 340 for under $200K ($150K+ or so) & a private airport by me has hangar space for rent for around $500/month and under, with tie down spots for like a $150/month and less. Airports further out are under $300/month for hangars. Maintenance and gas are the only downside. That can get costly, depending. However; date night is going to hit different. Jokes

And honestly; all these recent crashes haven't deterred me from wanting to learn to fly. If anything it's bolstered my resolve.

For your first plan unless you're filthy rich, don't spend anywhere near that much. And I'd probably say find another pilot or two and buy as a group. My dad got his first plane with 2 other guys he flew helicopter with in the army. Thing is he flew a lot more than them so there was rarely any conflicts. Next plane was a Mooney, he brought into that with 4 other guys & once again none of them really had a lot of time, all ended up selling to my dad. My dad taught a lot of folks how to fly who immediately ran out and bought planes only to sell them after a few years & they just ended renting when they were looking to go somewhere. Like you posted above the monthly cost stack up quick and when you're paying all that solo it gets to be a drag real quick. Plus life hits most folks & they just don't have the time to fly & the plane just sits there.

 

[jack walsh13]

Take offs & landings will more than likely always have a human element. Most higher end private planes & commercial airliners will damn near fly the plan from point A to B without a lot of human help. Where it gets dicey is when weather situations happen, not to mention automated systems & mechanical failures which will always be a possibility no matter

True

 

[KA$H]

For your first plan unless you're filthy rich, don't spend anywhere near that much. And I'd probably say find another pilot or two and buy as a group. My dad got his first plane with 2 other guys he flew helicopter with in the army. Thing is he flew a lot more than them so there was rarely any conflicts. Next plane was a Mooney, he brought into that with 4 other guys & once again none of them really had a lot of time, all ended up selling to my dad. My dad taught a lot of folks how to fly who immediately ran out and bought planes only to sell them after a few years & they just ended renting when they were looking to go somewhere. Like you posted above the monthly cost stack up quick and when you're paying all that solo it gets to be a drag real quick. Plus life hits most folks & they just don't have the time to fly & the plane just sits there.

Thanks for the advice. Definitely not filthy rich. I was more surprised that the initial cost of a passenger plane was way lower than I thought. However; you could end up paying half of the cost of the plane in majntenance, inspections, hangar fees, insurance, & fuel; yearly.

One of my former bosses has his dad's old family plane, a Piper Navajo from the 60s which he's converted to a more modern spec. He uses it mainly to mainly fly his printing equipment from location to location & to take his family on short trips, but said that when I get my PPL he'll let me use it for fuel costs. That shit is still a few hundred dollars.

I've flown with him on short flights to NC, Tennessee, and such on sales/delivery runs a few times and liked the idea of an air utility vehicle. However; I wouldn't entertain actually purchasing one if I didn't have my CPL and could make money doing it. That would be a 5 year goal type of thing since CPLs can take years to satisfy. I'm more than likely going to start for my PPL this year and then slowly and patiently (cost effectively) work on the rest, lol.

 

[keone]

7.8 billion on this planet… so that means we got 100s of millions of cars on the road daily so of course it’s more likely a car accident will occur cause there’s 100s to 1000 times more cars on the road than planes in the air ..now put 100 million planes in the air per day and let’s see if them plane crashes don’t increase.. Also planes naturally are given space between each other not necessarily cars another reason why more car crashes than planes

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[PlayerR]

Thanks for the advice. Definitely not filthy rich. I was more surprised that the initial cost of a passenger plane was way lower than I thought. However; you could end up paying half of the cost of the plane in majntenance, inspections, hangar fees, insurance, & fuel; yearly.

One of my former bosses has his dad's old family plane, a Piper Navajo from the 60s which he's converted to a more modern spec. He uses it mainly to mainly fly his printing equipment from location to location & to take his family on short trips, but said that when I get my PPL he'll let me use it for fuel costs. That shit is still a few hundred dollars.

I've flown with him on short flights to NC, Tennessee, and such on sales/delivery runs a few times and liked the idea of an air utility vehicle. However; I wouldn't entertain actually purchasing one if I didn't have my CPL and could make money doing it. That would be a 5 year goal type of thing since CPLs can take years to satisfy. I'm more than likely going to start for my PPL this year and then slowly and patiently (cost effectively) work on the rest, lol.

Used plane prices can be reasonable depending on what models & years you're looking for, most folks tend to buy older planes from the 70's on back. Mainly because most companies aren't making that many new planes per year. My dad's Mooney was a 69's, he brought it in '79 but by the early to mid 90's he had upgraded the console/avionics and a bunch of other stuff. I just saw a 2017 Mooney similar to the one he had that sold for $525k on the Mooney site.

 

[KA$H]

Another one...

2 dead in small plane crash at metro Atlanta airport

Airport officials said there was no communication from the plane after takeoff.

www.wsbtv.com