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One Of The World's Poorest Countries Has One Of The World's Lowest COVID Death Rates​

May 4, 20218:22 AM ET
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Haiti's success is not due to some innovative intervention against the virus. Most people have given up wearing masks in public on the streets of Port-au-Prince and elsewhere. And Haiti hasn't yet administered a single COVID-19 vaccine.
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Haiti has one of the lowest death rates from COVID-19 in the world.
As of the end of April, only 254 deaths were attributed to COVID-19 in Haiti over the course of the entire pandemic. The Caribbean nation, which often struggles with infectious diseases, has a COVID-19 death rate of just 22 per million. In the U.S. the COVID-19 death rate is 1,800 per million, and in parts of Europe. the fatality rate is approaching 3,000 deaths per million.
Haiti's success is not due to some innovative intervention against the virus. Most people have given up wearing masks in public. Buses and markets are crowded. And Haiti hasn't yet administered a single COVID-19 vaccine.
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Dr. Jean "Bill" Pape says a combination of factors have kept the death rate so low.
Pape played a role similar to Dr. Anthony Fauci's in the U.S. The 74-year-old Haitian doctor served as the co-chair of a national commission in Haiti to deal with COVID-19, leading the country's effort to deal with the crisis. But the commission was dissolved earlier this year.
"The reason mainly is because we have very, very few cases of COVID," Pape says. The local health agency Pape heads, known as GHESKIO, actually shuttered its COVID-19 units last fall due to a lack of patients.
Last June, the country of 11 million was hit with a significant wave of infections. Hospital wards filled with COVID-19 patients. At the time, the country only had two places that could test for the virus, so the actual number of infections is unknown. Now, testing is far more available, but Pape says very few cases are detected each day.
"Sometimes it's two, sometimes zero, sometimes it's 20 cases," he says. "But we are not seeing a second wave, as we had thought would happen."
Pape says the country has pretty much gone back to the way life was pre-pandemic. Schools are open. Thousands of people packed the northern coastal Port-de-Paix for Carnival in February.

"Most people don't wear a mask," he says.
Not only have outdoor markets reopened; they were never completely closed.
Sheltering in place and working from home are luxuries most Haitians can't afford. As the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, Haitians on average earn less than $2,000 per year according to the U.N. And most, Pape says, have gone back to work.
"Because if they don't work, they don't eat, their family doesn't eat," he says.
Concern about the pandemic is so minimal that this April, when the World Health Organization-led COVAX program offered Haiti a shipment of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines, the government rejected it.
Dr. Jacqueline Gautier is on the national technical advisory group on COVID-19 vaccination.
She says ordinary Haitians and people in the medical community have heard reports of rare but severe side effects from the AstraZeneca vaccine in Europe, and they're in no rush to get that shot.
"Because COVID did not impact us as badly," she says, "people don't think it [the vaccine] is worth it actually."
Gautier is also the director of the St. Damien Pediatric Hospital on the outskirts of Port-au-Prince.
The pandemic may have had less of an impact in Haiti, she says, because it's a young country. The average age is 23. COVID-19 infections tend to be less severe in younger people. It's also possible, she says, that a significant number of people were infected by the virus last summer, showed no symptoms and built up immunity. Also houses tend to be open with plenty of ventilation – air flow can knock the pathogen out of the picture.
Whatever the reason, she says, COVID-19 hasn't become a daily concern for most Haitians.
"Also there are many other major problems the country is facing," she says. "So people don't see COVID as our major as a major problem for us. And who can blame them?"

The daily problems facing Haiti are many. There's poverty, political instability, wild fluctuations in the value of the local currency, corruption, armed gangs. Diarrhea remains a major killer of children.
"And kidnappings!" Gautier exclaims. "They are really a huge problem for the country."
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So Gautier was fairly sure that Haiti had dodged the COVID-19 bullet.
Then she saw the catastrophic COVID-19 wave in India, coming after a span of time when it seemed the country had been spared the worst of the virus. Now she worries that a deadly surge may be in Haiti's future, too.
"We don't know," she says. "This disease, it is full of surprises."
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One Of The World's Poorest Countries Has One Of The World's Lowest COVID Death Rates​

May 4, 20218:22 AM ET
Heard on Morning Edition
By
Jason Beaubien
LISTEN· 3:483-Minute Listen
Toggle more options

gettyimages-1231190032-1-_custom-59900f7a5c067961fd0b52f980be03e0384c7d31-s1100-c50.jpg


Haiti's success is not due to some innovative intervention against the virus. Most people have given up wearing masks in public on the streets of Port-au-Prince and elsewhere. And Haiti hasn't yet administered a single COVID-19 vaccine.
Valerie Baeriswyl /AFP via Getty Images
Haiti has one of the lowest death rates from COVID-19 in the world.
As of the end of April, only 254 deaths were attributed to COVID-19 in Haiti over the course of the entire pandemic. The Caribbean nation, which often struggles with infectious diseases, has a COVID-19 death rate of just 22 per million. In the U.S. the COVID-19 death rate is 1,800 per million, and in parts of Europe. the fatality rate is approaching 3,000 deaths per million.
Haiti's success is not due to some innovative intervention against the virus. Most people have given up wearing masks in public. Buses and markets are crowded. And Haiti hasn't yet administered a single COVID-19 vaccine.
Sponsor Message


Dr. Jean "Bill" Pape says a combination of factors have kept the death rate so low.
Pape played a role similar to Dr. Anthony Fauci's in the U.S. The 74-year-old Haitian doctor served as the co-chair of a national commission in Haiti to deal with COVID-19, leading the country's effort to deal with the crisis. But the commission was dissolved earlier this year.
"The reason mainly is because we have very, very few cases of COVID," Pape says. The local health agency Pape heads, known as GHESKIO, actually shuttered its COVID-19 units last fall due to a lack of patients.
Last June, the country of 11 million was hit with a significant wave of infections. Hospital wards filled with COVID-19 patients. At the time, the country only had two places that could test for the virus, so the actual number of infections is unknown. Now, testing is far more available, but Pape says very few cases are detected each day.
"Sometimes it's two, sometimes zero, sometimes it's 20 cases," he says. "But we are not seeing a second wave, as we had thought would happen."
Pape says the country has pretty much gone back to the way life was pre-pandemic. Schools are open. Thousands of people packed the northern coastal Port-de-Paix for Carnival in February.

"Most people don't wear a mask," he says.
Not only have outdoor markets reopened; they were never completely closed.
Sheltering in place and working from home are luxuries most Haitians can't afford. As the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, Haitians on average earn less than $2,000 per year according to the U.N. And most, Pape says, have gone back to work.
"Because if they don't work, they don't eat, their family doesn't eat," he says.
Concern about the pandemic is so minimal that this April, when the World Health Organization-led COVAX program offered Haiti a shipment of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines, the government rejected it.
Dr. Jacqueline Gautier is on the national technical advisory group on COVID-19 vaccination.
She says ordinary Haitians and people in the medical community have heard reports of rare but severe side effects from the AstraZeneca vaccine in Europe, and they're in no rush to get that shot.
"Because COVID did not impact us as badly," she says, "people don't think it [the vaccine] is worth it actually."
Gautier is also the director of the St. Damien Pediatric Hospital on the outskirts of Port-au-Prince.
The pandemic may have had less of an impact in Haiti, she says, because it's a young country. The average age is 23. COVID-19 infections tend to be less severe in younger people. It's also possible, she says, that a significant number of people were infected by the virus last summer, showed no symptoms and built up immunity. Also houses tend to be open with plenty of ventilation – air flow can knock the pathogen out of the picture.
Whatever the reason, she says, COVID-19 hasn't become a daily concern for most Haitians.
"Also there are many other major problems the country is facing," she says. "So people don't see COVID as our major as a major problem for us. And who can blame them?"

The daily problems facing Haiti are many. There's poverty, political instability, wild fluctuations in the value of the local currency, corruption, armed gangs. Diarrhea remains a major killer of children.
"And kidnappings!" Gautier exclaims. "They are really a huge problem for the country."
India Is Counting Thousands Of Daily COVID Deaths. How Many Is It Missing?

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India Is Counting Thousands Of Daily COVID Deaths. How Many Is It Missing?

So Gautier was fairly sure that Haiti had dodged the COVID-19 bullet.
Then she saw the catastrophic COVID-19 wave in India, coming after a span of time when it seemed the country had been spared the worst of the virus. Now she worries that a deadly surge may be in Haiti's future, too.
"We don't know," she says. "This disease, it is full of surprises."

Nice drop OP, notice the agents cant debunk the facts, so all they can do is attack

the messenger, its crazy how thats the ONLY trick they know.... shit is played out,

and lets you KNOW who the parrot brained, non critical thinkers amongst us are...

Hatians still have a lot of our natural healing culture left, they KNOW how to heal themselves

if they are NOT too cac jeebus Christianized....!

funny how all the folks they claim were unvaccinated and died from "covid"

all died in a hospital, but those that die from the vaccine, died before they got to the hospital,

think Bob Seget, Think Kevin Samuels....!!

muthafuckas so slow they STILL cant put two and two together!

Keep dropping them INFORMATIVE non MISINFORMATION FACTS!!
 
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Well, at least Noone tried to discredit the site . NPR..... So only what, 1 or 2 people actually read the article .
He posted the whole page...... must be wearing you panties to make that statement.
Fuck the scientific conclusion I have the " Man in the Hood ", sho nuff reasons why Haiti has a low covid death totals.


CLOWN WORLD !
 
3rd leading cause of death = medical error.

Most MDs and ER nurses would die before being treated at their respective hospitals.

Let that sink in....
My sista was an ER nurse during 2020-2022

She say she can’t wait to see some of the horror stories that come out.

She say she found it kinda fishy some doctors pushed for a vaccine but choose not to get vaccinated…

She advised us to do what we felt was best for us
 
Well, at least Noone tried to discredit the site . NPR..... So only what, 1 or 2 people actually read the article .
He posted the whole page...... must be wearing you panties to make that statement.
Fuck the scientific conclusion I have the " Man in the Hood ", sho nuff reasons why Haiti has a low covid death totals.


CLOWN WORLD !
Trust me, we're all praying you don't get that or any other vaccination.
 
There were many factors for the discrepancy in covid deaths reported before the vaccine rollout.
1- They reported any death as covid related
2- The use of the drug Remdisvevier ( check 44spelling) caused many deaths in hospitals and nursing homes.
3- Hospitals used ventilators which were set at the wrong pressure and killed a lot of patients.
4- Hospitals were incentavised with $500,000 payments for each covid death
 

Ivermectin Reduces Excess Deaths by 74%, New Study Shows​

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A groundbreaking new peer-reviewed study has found that ivermectin use in COVID-19 patients during the pandemic resulted in a staggering 74 percent reduction in excess deaths.
According to the ecological study, a natural experiment occurred when the government of Peru authorized ivermectin for use during the pandemic.
The Peruvian government’s decision resulted in evidence of the drug’s effectiveness and ability to reduce excess deaths.
The situation in Peru was unique as other governments around the world had banned the use of ivermectin for Covid patients in an effort to promote mRNA vaccines.
The paper’s results were published on August 8 in the renowned peer-reviewed Cureus Journal of Medical Science.
 
There were many factors for the discrepancy in covid deaths reported before the vaccine rollout.
1- They reported any death as covid related
2- The use of the drug Remdisvevier ( check 44spelling) caused many deaths in hospitals and nursing homes.
3- Hospitals used ventilators which were set at the wrong pressure and killed a lot of patients.
4- Hospitals were incentavised with $500,000 payments for each covid death

Remdesivir wasn't approved for use until Oct 2020 and was not widely available. Once it did become available that cut deaths, it didn't increase them. We still had over 6 months where people were dropping like flies until treatments and vaccines were available. People who were put on ventilators were put on as a last resort and weren't expected to survive. This is all just a combination of conspiracy theories.

You act like covid only hit here. I still remember the mass graves in Iran and people in Italy dying in huge numbers before vaccines were available. The entire world had a high number of excess deaths and covid deaths are believed to be undercounted, and other places werent being "incentavised".

I'm really starting to lose my patience with this conspiracy nonsense to the point I'm ready to start locking threads for GP. These threads are an insult and a slap in the face to BGOL members who have lost family and friends and suffered themselves due to covid. We have people here who actually worked in hospitals at the height of covid, but yall want to sit on right wing propaganda sites and bring all sorts of trash here. We have a Herman Cain thread full of people who didn't take the vaccine, and it didn't work out well for them or their families.
 
The tin foil hat crew is tireless.

Ask them why they don't stop going to the hospital when they are sick with this shit since doctors/science/medicine are actually ineffective at best and most realistically involved in a plot along with hunter biden's laptop and "big pharma" to kill people. You will get every possible logical fallacy...:smh: :lol:

It’s wild. We in September of ‘23. They only trying to convince themselves at this point.
 
Ask them why they don't stop going to the hospital when they are sick with this shit since doctors/science/medicine are actually ineffective at best and most realistically involved in a plot along with hunter biden's laptop and "big pharma" to kill people. You will get every possible logical fallacy...:smh: :lol:
Why would Merck sit on the only cure for the greatest pandemic in a century and let people buy it from feed stores for cheap when they could increase the price by 10000%?
 
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