AIDS Virus Came To USA Via HAITI In The 1960's + "The Origins of AIDS" Documentary

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AIDS virus invaded U.S. from Haiti: study

By Will Dunham
2 hours, 17 minutes ago



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The AIDS virus invaded the United States in about 1969 from Haiti, carried most likely by a single infected immigrant who set the stage for it to sweep the world in a tragic epidemic, scientists said on Monday.

Michael Worobey, a University of Arizona evolutionary biologist, said the 1969 U.S. entry date is earlier than some experts had believed.

The timeline laid out in the study led by Worobey indicates that HIV infections were occurring in the United States for roughly 12 years before AIDS was first recognized by scientists as a disease in 1981. Many people had died by that point.

"It is somehow chilling to know it was probably circulating for so long under our noses," Worobey said in a telephone interview.

The researchers conducted a genetic analysis of stored blood samples from early AIDS patients to determine when the human immunodeficiency virus first entered the United States.

They found that HIV was brought to Haiti by an infected person from central Africa in about 1966, which matches earlier estimates, and then came to the United States in about 1969.

The researchers think an unknown single infected Haitian immigrant arrived in a large city like Miami or New York, and the virus circulated for years -- first in the U.S. population and then to other nations.

It can take several years after infection for a person to develop AIDS, a disease that ravages the immune system.

DISEASE MULTIPLIES

"That one infection would have become two, and then it doubles again and the two becomes four," Worobey said. "So you have a period -- probably a fair number of years -- where you're dealing with probably fewer than a hundred people who are infected.

"And then, as with epidemic expansion, at some point the hundred becomes 200, you start getting into thousands, tens of thousands. And then quite rapidly you can be up into the hundreds of thousands of infections that were probably already there before AIDS was recognized in the early 1980s."

The study was published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The path the virus traveled as it jumped from nation to nation has long been debated by scientists.

The University of Miami's Dr. Arthur Pitchenik, a co-author of the study, had seen Haitian immigrants in Miami as early as 1979 with a mystery illness that turned out to be AIDS. He knew the government long had stored some of their blood samples.

The researchers analyzed samples from five of these Haitian immigrants dating from 1982 and 1983. They also looked at genetic data from 117 more early AIDS patients from around the world.

This genetic analysis allowed the scientists to calibrate the molecular clock of the strain of HIV that has spread most widely, and calculated when it arrived first in Haiti from Africa and then in the United States.

The researchers virtually ruled out the possibility that HIV had come directly to the United States from Africa, setting a 99.8 percent probability that Haiti was the steppingstone.

"I think that it gives us more clear insight into the history of it (the AIDS epidemic) and what path the virus took -- and hard objective evidence, not just armchair thinking," Pitchenik said in a telephone interview.

Studies suggest the virus first entered the human population in about 1930 in central Africa, probably when people slaughtered infected chimpanzees for meat. AIDS has killed more than 25 million people and about 40 million others are infected with HIV.






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CBC Documentary - The Origins Of AIDS

brief description of this documentary

"The Origin of AIDS" is a CBC Witness documentary on just what the title implies.

This isn't a raving conspiracy piece, but a well researched film which examines the theory that AIDS migrated from monkeys to humans during the late-1950s race to develop alternative polio vaccines. One experimental vaccine was tested and created using chimpanzee kidneys in central Africa where over a million Africans were innoculated. These pieces fit amazingly well into the agreed upon origins of AIDS and raises the question of whether medical science itself inadvertently is responsible for the AIDS crisis.

While the video sometimes plods along debating the pros and cons of some points, and cannot help but to do some "he said/she said" analysis, the film is unique in that it deals with an issue which mainstream science has ignored and shys away from.

All in all, it's a thought-provoking piece on a fascinating topic (but sadly, one which doesn't help the millions of people suffering from AIDS).


http://makkonnen.000webhost.org/CBC-The.Origins.Of.AIDS.torrent

If no one cops this after 2 days im deading it- I will share this via request anytime after that just PM me

Props to MoneyInTheBank on the main board for posting the story first
 
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Good drop Makk! Going to check it out!!
 
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This was a widely held belief when the AIDS crisis first came to the forefront back in the late 70's - early 80's. INS banned Haitans fro entering the US for a time & the Red Cross would not take blood from them for years. They, of course, were branded as racist.:rolleyes:
 
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This is bullshit!!! There was a documentary on a year ago telling the truth about what was actually occurring at that time. Scientists in Germany gave the U.S. a sample of a "sheep wasting"
virus called the "VISHNA" virus. It was prodded and poked until it mutated to the point that it "jumped" species. The species it began to affect were apes. The U.S. had a few scientist set up shop in Africa and began to experiment in a lab there. It was there that they injected monkeys with the modified virus and set them loose in the jungle to be caught and consumed by African hunters. The World Health organization gave tainted vaccines to the African population at the same time. That is how it is allegedly all began.
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This is bullshit!!! There was a documentary on a year ago telling the truth about what was actually occurring at that time. Scientists in Germany gave the U.S. a sample of a "sheep wasting"
virus called the "VISHNA" virus. I was prodded and poked until it mutated to the point that it "jumped" species. The species it began to affect were apes. The U.S. had a few scientist set up shop in Africa and began to experiment in a lab there. It was there that they injected monkeys with the modified virus and set them loose in the jungle to be caught and consumed by African hunters. The World Health organization gave tainted vaccines to the African population at the same time. That is how it is allegedly all began.
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You know, I don't know whether the story line is true or not. You say its not, but can you take the story point by point and show how its wrong ??? I know, that might be beyond your competence (certainly is beyond mine) -- but, I'm not calling it bullshit, either.

QueEx
 
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This is bullshit!!! There was a documentary on a year ago telling the truth about what was actually occurring at that time. Scientists in Germany gave the U.S. a sample of a "sheep wasting"
virus called the "VISHNA" virus. I was prodded and poked until it mutated to the point that it "jumped" species. The species it began to affect were apes. The U.S. had a few scientist set up shop in Africa and began to experiment in a lab there. It was there that they injected monkeys with the modified virus and set them loose in the jungle to be caught and consumed by African hunters. The World Health organization gave tainted vaccines to the African population at the same time. That is how it is allegedly all began.
:hmm::hmm::hmm:
If you search this board you will see a documentary alluding vaccination programs infecting people in the Congo in the 60s. Do you know the title of the documentary you mentioned?
 
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Mothafuckaz stay wondering where it came from instead of working on a cure:smh::smh::smh:
 
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Knowing where it came from could help with curing it and the people with the expertise in virology(the ones who actually make the cures) are not the people with the expertise in investigative journalism or researching the path of disease across continents, countries and 40 years.
 
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Knowing where it came from could help with curing it and the people with the expertise in virology(the ones who actually make the cures) are not the people with the expertise in investigative journalism or researching the path of disease across continents, countries and 40 years.

Respect and you are very correct my frustration is that it still seems like an enigma wrapped in an enigma....and the sense of urgency far outweighs any resources devoted to that which has been speculative too long...

First it came from Africa.

Then it came from a Canadian tourist traveling back and fourth from Africa.

Then it came from WWII German scientist,

Then it came from the US govt. fucking with bio weapons.

Then it came from space.

Then it came from Gods wrath on gays.

Now it comes from Haitians.

WTF....I'm in no way saying the powers that be should not be open minded but....really.:confused::smh:


They have samples of the most virulent strains of HIV and they can map DNA....once DNA is fully mapped they can kill it from the source of it's own cellular growth and mitosis, hell naw I'm no scientist or no medical genius.....but I know bullshit when I see it and for the last 25 years all I've heard is new bullshit, upon more new bullshit about AIDS/HIV research medial and journalistic....I say people are making an industry out of this disease without a real care in the world for removing it from the planet.:smh:


Anyhow I just don't see how this so called discovery could be 100% accurate or ensure cure if discovered to be true.

Just seems like another way to shit on Haiti but that's just my opinion.
 
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I share your frustration, but I don't see it the same way at all. It had been said that the disease came from Haiti via American males having contact with male prostitutes in Haiti. That had been circulating since the 80s. This says something different but along the same lines. It also doesn't say it originated in Haiti, just that the first infections came from a Haitian.
 
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I just don't believe this. Why?

Because the 1960s and 1970s were full of promiscuous sex. Straight, gay, threesomes, coke-fuled orgies dominated those two decades in particular. EVERYBODY at Studio 54 would've had AIDS. So would half of the hippies. People weren't sayin' no at that point. Also, there was a huge speed epidemic in the 1960s in places like Haight-Ashbury and Greenwich Village and those place. Those places would've been AIDS city in the 1970s, but large amounts of people didn't start really getting sick and dying until 1982? Really?

My personal belief is that it came from the smallpox vaccines that they were handing out in the "AIDS capitals". Magically, the virus shows up in the countries where they happened to be "helping". Brazil, Haiti, and the continent of Africa come to mind.

I don't know if it was on purpose or by accident, but that's where I believe it started. There's been cases of these drug companies givin' people AIDS.

 
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It came from Fort Detrick MD.It wasn't an accident that it happened.It was manufactured to wipe out a majority of non white population on the planet..
 
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Looks at Title. Who knows?
 
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Hey!!.....I feel your frustrations. The World Health Organization (W.H.O.) distributed the tainted vaccine to many third world nations in the late 60's. This is a part of a population protocol devised by the Zionists. It is called "the protocols of the learned elders of Zion". There are many ways to slow down, inhibit or kill the H.I.V virus. First there is Oxygen, then there is electricity, last there is Silver. The reason for not using these methods are obvious, they don't cost much and are too effective. Anti-viral drugs are expensive and ultimately terminal. Low voltage current running through your body would cause the virus to be repelled from blood cells and be expelled from the body oxygen saturated blood causes the virus to explode. Silver stops the virus from replicating itself. The reason for not using a cure is financial. AIDS is about slowing down the population growth. It is the best form of birth control. Condom sales have gone through the roof. I should have bought stock in all the condom companies. Birth rates have dropped in minority communities and third world nations due to AIDS.:hmm:
 
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There is a movie called the "Constant Gardner" It is really about Bayer Pharmaceuticals who 3 years ago sent tainted clotting factor-H to France which infected thousands of hemopheliacs with HIV. They did it, were fined a few hundred thousand but made millions at the cost of many lives. This is American business.

The movie takes place in Africa where Bayer experiments on sick Africans dying from AIDS
 
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In 2003 a company called Marantech Holdings Announced a new find.
It was called Tetrasil. It was a mixture of Silver and Oxygen in a stabilizing base. Was supposed to be able to aggressively attack the AIDS virus, like a nanobot molecule, and destroy it completely. The company was taken over by the US Gov't and production of the stronger more effective versions of tetrasil were halted.
 
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Hey!!.....I feel your frustrations. The World Health Organization (W.H.O.) distributed the tainted vaccine to many third world nations in the late 60's. This is a part of a population protocol devised by the Zionists. It is called "the protocols of the learned elders of Zion". There are many ways to slow down, inhibit or kill the H.I.V virus. First there is Oxygen, then there is electricity, last there is Silver. The reason for not using these methods are obvious, they don't cost much and are too effective. Anti-viral drugs are expensive and ultimately terminal. Low voltage current running through your body would cause the virus to be repelled from blood cells and be expelled from the body oxygen saturated blood causes the virus to explode. Silver stops the virus from replicating itself. The reason for not using a cure is financial. AIDS is about slowing down the population growth. It is the best form of birth control. Condom sales have gone through the roof. I should have bought stock in all the condom companies. Birth rates have dropped in minority communities and third world nations due to AIDS.:hmm:

There is a movie called the "Constant Gardner" It is really about Bayer Pharmaceuticals who 3 years ago sent tainted clotting factor-H to France which infected thousands of hemopheliacs with HIV. They did it, were fined a few hundred thousand but made millions at the cost of many lives. This is American business.

The movie takes place in Africa where Bayer experiments on sick Africans dying from AIDS

In 2003 a company called Marantech Holdings Announced a new find.
It was called Tetrasil. It was a mixture of Silver and Oxygen in a stabilizing base. Was supposed to be able to aggressively attack the AIDS virus, like a nanobot molecule, and destroy it completely. The company was taken over by the US Gov't and production of the stronger more effective versions of tetrasil were halted.

Damn good drops, brotha!!!

I included the Bayer vids in my post, just in case somebody missed it.
 
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While I wouldn't put it past most governments to do something like that; I don't buy it as a theory of the origin of HIV. It would make absolutely no sense to to release a virus that would have no problem being transfered from race to race or from/to people of the same race. It's affecting black folks at higher percentages right now because for whatever reason, a large percentage of us are not taking the extremely inexpensive and easy precautions needed to drastically decrease the chances of passing it on/catching it.
To create a virus like this, they would have to theorize that releasing this extremely equal opportunity virus would take hold more heavily in non-white communities simply because whites would learn to take precautions and non-whites would not, at least to a large extent. That would be like shooting a shot gun into a mixed race crowd just to get the black guy standing among them, rather than using a sniper's rifle...





It came from Fort Detrick MD.It wasn't an accident that it happened.It was manufactured to wipe out a majority of non white population on the planet..
 
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While I wouldn't put it past most governments to do something like that; I don't buy it as a theory of the origin of HIV. It would make absolutely no sense to to release a virus that would have no problem being transfered from race to race or from/to people of the same race. It's affecting black folks at higher percentages right now because for whatever reason, a large percentage of us are not taking the extremely inexpensive and easy precautions needed to drastically decrease the chances of passing it on/catching it.
To create a virus like this, they would have to theorize that releasing this extremely equal opportunity virus would take hold more heavily in non-white communities simply because whites would learn to take precautions and non-whites would not, at least to a large extent. That would be like shooting a shot gun into a mixed race crowd just to get the black guy standing among them, rather than using a sniper's rifle...
If you pay attention you will see that there are a select set of whites who are immune. And another set that simply don't socialize outside of their circle. AIDS was made for the homos and poor class primarily.It's purpose was to slow down population growth. Have you ever heard of collateral damage?
 
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If you pay attention you will see that there are a select set of whites who are immune. And another set that simply don't socialize outside of their circle. AIDS was made for the homos and poor class primarily.It's purpose was to slow down population growth. Have you ever heard of collateral damage?

Name them please.

QueEx
 
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While I wouldn't put it past most governments to do something like that; I don't buy it as a theory of the origin of HIV. It would make absolutely no sense to to release a virus that would have no problem being transfered from race to race or from/to people of the same race. It's affecting black folks at higher percentages right now because for whatever reason, a large percentage of us are not taking the extremely inexpensive and easy precautions needed to drastically decrease the chances of passing it on/catching it.
To create a virus like this, they would have to theorize that releasing this extremely equal opportunity virus would take hold more heavily in non-white communities simply because whites would learn to take precautions and non-whites would not, at least to a large extent. That would be like shooting a shot gun into a mixed race crowd just to get the black guy standing among them, rather than using a sniper's rifle...

You do know that there was just a "study" that came out saying that Black people have an evolutionary susceptibility to AIDS virus, right?

Supposedly, our immune systems are more susceptible, because we evolved certain defenses against malaria and that makes us MORE susceptible to AIDS than other groups of people.

The article was posted on BGOL a few months ago.

Oh yes, here it is.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4345263.ece


Scientists make gene link to African HIV epidemic

Mark Henderson, Science Editor

A genetic variant peculiar to Africans substantially raises their risk of infection with HIV, according to research that suggests evolved susceptibility may be helping to drive the continent’s Aids epidemic.

The 90 per cent of Africans who carry the DNA variation are 40 per cent more likely to contract HIV than those without it, after similar exposure to the virus, scientists from Britain and America have found.

As the genetic change is common among people of African ancestry but virtually unknown among other ethnic groups, it could explain in part why HIV-Aids is more prevalent in sub-Saharan Africa. The United Nations estimates that 22.5 million people there are HIV-positive, more than two thirds of the global total of approximately 33.2 million.

The variant, known as “Duffy-negative”, is so common in Africa that it could be responsible for about 11 per cent of the continent’s HIV burden, or 2.5 million cases, scientists said.

“It is an Africa-specific variant, which is why it’s so interesting in the context of Aids research,” said Robin Weiss, Professor of Infection and Immunity at University College London, a member of the study team.

“It could certainly be a contributing factor to the scale of the epidemic in sub-Saharan Africa. It’s the first time, so far as we understand, that a genetic factor that increases susceptibility to infection has come into play.”

Sexual behaviour is also involved in the epidemic in Africa, the only part of the world in which it predominantly affects heterosexuals.

The Duffy-negative gene has probably spread so widely through the African population because it provides resistance to a form of malaria called Plasmodium vivax. Professor Weiss believes it may also once have increased resistance against a precursor of the most deadly malaria parasite, Plasmodium falciparum.

These traits would have been highly advantageous in evolutionary Africa. As HIV is a new human pathogen, thought to have jumped from chimpanzees to people between 1910 and 1950, the gene’s effect on the virus would have had no negative consequences until recently. “Something that protected against malaria in the past is now leaving the host more susceptible to HIV,” Professor Weiss said.

Matthew Dolan, of the San Antonio Military Medical Centre in Texas, said: “After thousands of years of adaptation, this Duffy variant rose to high frequency because it helped protect against malaria. Now, with another global pandemic on the scene, this same variant renders people more susceptible to HIV. It shows the complex interplay between historically important diseases and susceptibility in contemporary times.”

For the study, published in the journal Cell Host & Microbe, scientists examined a group of US Air Force personnel, of whom more than 1,200 are HIV-positive, and who have been followed for nearly 22 years. The Duffy-negative genotype was seen almost exclusively in African-Americans.

A continent cursed

— Sub-Saharan Africa is the globe’s most Aids-affected region. In 2005, 24.5 million of its people were living with HIV and of all Aids sufferers, 64 per cent live there

— In 2005, about 2.7 million people became infected with HIV and more than two million died

— More than two million children under 15 are HIV-positive and more than 90 per cent live in Africa

— About 12 million African children under 17 have lost one or both parents to Aids

— About 72 per cent of all people needing anti-retroviral treatment live in Africa, and only one in six receives the necessary medicine

— Swaziland has the highest HIV rate, at 33.4 per cent of population. Botswana has 24.1 per cent and Zimbabwe 20.1 per cent

Source: UNAids


I'm not saying that it definitely IS a "government conspiracy", just that it's not out of the question, with Blacks being 40% MORE susceptible to HIV/AIDS and the Whites that would catch AIDS would mostly be poor or homosexual.
 
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