Instead of building up ADOS/DOAS they busy tearing down other folks.
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Instead of building up ADOS/DOAS they busy tearing down other folks.
Naw we just put boundaries on our ethnic group like everyone else. We learned tribalism and "weaponizing" heritage from the Caribbean. The islands mastered it.
And to my knowledge im the only poster on the board to even acknowledge Earl Little. Malcolms mom's Grenadan ancestry is pointed out constantly to distinguish him.
You should be setting boundaries. Kudos on that. But...
The world is bigger then this board. I know ive read a whole lot more about his father and his father's siblings then his mom.
Can you show me the posts where people pretended Malcolm was born of immaculate conception?
Having a Grenadian mother doesnt distinguish anyone from anything. Its just stating the facts. Malcolm is far from being the only one with "mixed" heritage. Malcolm's heritage was never an issue until the "weaponizing" started. Its still not an issue to people like me.
From my experience many feel this way
And that's cool.
We simply doing the same
Some random bitch on twitter saying she's Jamaican first means people from the Caribbean weaponize their heritage?
What kind of moronic, generalizing bullshit is that?
From my experience many feel this way
And that's cool.
We simply doing the same
Thats not an example of weaponizing heritage.
No one in their right minds would have a problem with ados saying they ados first, black second, american third.
The more they quote and take Tariq Nasheed's sound bites, the more they sound like fucking idiots.
Also, who is " weaponizing their heritage"
I keep hearing this, and literally have not ONE example of such.
Distinction =\= tearing down.
Those groups are here and prospering because of the work of the so-called black native americans so if any reparations or restitution are given, they should be disallowed:
1) they didn’t put in the work to earn it
2) most don’t support uplifting the natives that were relegated to the bottom of the hierarchy and distinguish themselves constantly saying they are “[insert country]-American” and work to uplift their own communities.
The only reason you would be against distinction is because you are an immigrant/immigrant ancestry or you are a globalist (shill for the caucasian leftist)
From my experience many feel this way
And that's cool.
We simply doing the same
So because she says this, that means she hates American blacks? Is that your assumption?
*plus it's stupid anyway. I'm black first in my mind. Loving your roots don't elevate you from anything in this world. You black.
I've always considered myself Black and American, and I claim the only homeland I've ever known, which is America. I've never once referred to myself as Jamaican-American, though I don't see a problem with those who do, just like I absolutely don't have an issue with those who refer to themselves or celebrate their ADOS heritage.
My issue is with KT's claim that Caribbean immigrants weaponize their heritage. I'm just asking How?
Your random tweet does nothing to substantiate this.
The distinction is built in. If your ancestors were not victims of American chattle slavery, you dont qualify. The demonization of other black peoples does not move us closer to the goal of reparations, so why waste energy on it? If someone speaks out against reparations or forms an anti reparations, anti black organization targeting us, I could understand. To my knowledge this hasn't happened.
From what has been said previously, y'all have disavowed allies, so unless someone is coming against you, why do they have your focus?
It comes across as creating a foil to manipulate folks.
Right now they're fighting over who will get a piece of the pie, and they don't even have the recipe for the pie, let alone the ingredients.
On top of that they will tell you they aren't going to lobby a Republican to obtain their goal, and half of them are hoping for four more years of Trump. So at a minimum, reparations are 5 years off, longer unless they can get majority dem or 3rd party candidates in office and on board as the GOP have been declared off limits.
So basically the only thing left to do while they sit and wait is attack folks to keep the energy and interest going.
I keep asking that same question over and over again and what you get from them is name-calling. "Dirty sandal-wearing immigrants". If your goal is reparations it seems like you'd be building a coalition among all black people to support your cause instead you go out and attack? That's what makes me say the people who are really behind this whole thing (or at least working in the shadows to co-opt it) are conservative whites vested in seeing blacks fight among themselves.
Notice they started out attacking black immigrants, now they themselves are fighting amongst each other. FBA vs. ADOS. Drawing lines in the sand. And you have people on this board that think those thoughts (to attack everyone) are their own thoughts vs. implanted ones.
I'm letting the ADOS folks fight their fight. No more debating & arguing with them. I'm focusing on entrepreneurship. I just hope their fight is with the actual white supremacists and not other black people. So far, seems like most of their energy is towards the latter.
Also, who is " weaponizing their heritage"
I keep hearing this, and literally have not ONE example of such.
Here are examples.
"Roland Martin disagrees with us. Its because his great great great grand father on his mothers side immigrated from Haiti, never mind the fact that he never been to Haiti, doesnt speak a word of creole and wouldnt know Kompa if he ever heard it.
Same with Angela Rye.
Same with Talib. In Talib's case its completely false, but apparently being Haitian is something to hide now.
No the whole point is that is PERFECTLY FINE to be where the fuck you are from.
The latter. None of this is about what's owed black Americans.
They imagine people who have foreign roots somehow have a different American experience than they do.
Nobody is stopping you from doing that. You need to talk to your brothers in arms who aren't in this for reparations but are in for something else.
We hate them faggits because they are against and want to discredit the our movement.
We point to their origins as the one of the reasons they are most likely against us as they wont be included (and they are Democrat shills)
Does that make sense?
We hate them faggits because they are against and want to discredit the our movement.
We point to their origins as the one of the reasons they are most likely against us as they wont be included (and they are Democrat shills)
Does that make sense?
No it doesnt make sense.
First, you didnt even hate them until someone on the internet told you to hate them. Think about that.
Point is, their ADOS roots run ALOT deeper then their immigrant roots, so they would still be included.
Thats the weaponizing game Im talking about. I talk on the internet, but if you disagree with anything i say, im gonna accuse you of having distant relatives with a different heritage and proclaim that you aint one of us whether its true or not.
Doesnt work. Its base level thinking that doesnt have its place in a political discussion.
Umm no. Them 2 that you are vehemently supporting are Democrat 1st.
I'm my own man. Stop putting your own thought(less) patterns on me.
Your ilk has an infantile mindset when it come to politics.
There is no discussion I'd like to have with you.
By promoting nationality first to differentiate themselves from each other. Haitians, Jamaicans, Trini's etc rep tribe first. There are inter caribbean beefs based off nationality (ex: Haitians being looked down upon in the Caribbean, beefs with Jamaicans). And also promoting the superiority of their tribe (ex: dudes putting a pretty womans nationality in thread titles to distinguish her as a beauty standard and not just saying she black so she wont be grouped with ADOS women). Us ADOS have watched and learned and are promoting our nationality first. We dont promote it as superior tho, no need to, everyone emulates or tries to deebo our shit anyway so no need to flex.
Its the opposite, on the internet non ADOS and immigrants are very vocal and often nasty towards us. But in real life where we can see people and hear them speak and dwarf them in numbers its a different ballgame. All that "Im just as ADOS as yall" stuff goes out the window. Its harder to "pretend" offline than online. Our cultural differences become more pronounced.
If someone isnt down with us or doesnt associate with us they can only do so much online. Thats why ADOS took off despite resistance, people can say what they want on a computer, but if it dont match reality it doesn't matter.
You guys do. Especially you 1st and 2nd geners. If I move to Ghana, I will view the country differently than someone thats rooted there and is native. Thats just a fact. Im not gonna grasp all the nuances of their country instantly or better yet insist arrogantly I understand better than then them. Only you anti-ADOS try to convince us American immigrants understand race and society better than native Americans rooted here
Actually i didnt support them.
You asked for examples of weaponizing heritage and i simply gave you 3.
I understand if at this point you want to end the convo.
We hate them faggits because they are against and want to discredit the our movement.
We point to their origins as the one of the reasons they are most likely against us as they wont be included (and they are Democrat shills)
Does that make sense?
"Won't be included" in what? Imaginary money that you foolishly believe white people are going to give you?
Nobody is jealous of you man. That seems like projection to me. You've felt excluded, now you want to exclude.
Im sorry I have no idea what any of this has to do with the subject at hand.
Or maybe you quoted the wrong post.
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So this is just a paragraph version of Soul On Ice's tweet of a Jamaican woman saying she's Jamaican first. A bunch of anecdotal bullshit of feelings being hurt with no explanation of how immigrants "weaponize" their heritage.
I'm starting to think ya'll are trolling at this point. Shitting on other black people because fucking thread titles? This is real life?
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