Adams endorses dropping college requirement for cops

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Adams endorses dropping college requirement for cops

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By Curtis Brodner

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NEW YORK (1010 WINS) -- Mayor Eric Adams suggested at a press conference in Chicago that he’s considering dropping college requirements to join the NYPD in order to attract more recruits.

Mayor Adams joins another mayor to discuss recruiting new police officers, Hizzoner now considers dropping a major requirement - 1010 WINS On-Demand

Carol D'Auria reports.

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The NYPD currently requires recruits to have at least 60 college credits and a 2.0 grade point average before joining the academy.
Adams, who is a former NYPD captain, praised Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s decision to drop a similar requirement in Chicago at a joint press conference with her that followed a closed-door meeting.

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“I like what the mayor is doing in the recruitment. We’re hearing all over the country that there is a requirement problem with police officers,” said Adams. “We’re going to look to duplicate that in New York City.”
Lightfoot’s policy requires new Chicago Police Department recruits who don’t have college credits to have work experience in certain trade or public service industries like healthcare, education or security.
Adams’ push for more police recruits comes as he seeks to cut 10,200 city employees across all city agencies except the police department in his preliminary budget proposal.

 

[DragonXJC]

Good luck NYC.

 

[durham]

NY sure picked the wrong new leader. This guy is a fucking idiot.

 

[Flawless]

So now Mcdonalds has higher requirements than the NYPD?

 

[PsiBorg]

Cops need all of the fucking education that they can possibly get.

Some of these police officers are totally incompetent, greedy, abusive, and power hungry. The last thing they need is less education.

 

[FLoss]

trojan horse nigro

 

[Duece]

Cops need a four year degree, a physical combine and something similar to the wonderlink.

 

[Gazoo]

A great idea. Enough of the classism that exists in our country where someone with a college degree is deemed more intelligent than someone that didn't go.

College has more to do with opportunity and discipline than intelligence and experience.

Would you hire someone that was a MP in the Marines that doesn't have a degree or Mary Jane with a degree in Art History?

 

[trstar]

A great idea. Enough of the classism that exists in our country where someone with a college degree is deemed more intelligent than someone that didn't go.

College has more to do with opportunity and discipline than intelligence and experience.

Would you hire someone that was a MP in the Marines that doesn't have a degree or Mary Jane with a degree in Art History?

60 credits is an associate degree from a community college. I would hope we would want a minimum level of academic intelligence serving as LEO. Plus hopefully the maturity it take to complete said courses.
im sure this theoretical MP would qualify from his previous background and training.
There’s nothing classicist about want an intelligent and well trained LEO.

 

[stizz3000]

great........more stupid pigs

 

[yureeka9]

I don't think he has any desire for a second term. I have a feeling he's angling for a much higher office where he needs to pacify the fears of white people. Dude wants to be governor, senator or head on down to DC for an appointment.

 

[Sango]

I don't think he has any desire for a second term. I have a feeling he's angling for a much higher office where he needs to pacify the fears of white people. Dude wants to be governor, senator or head on down to DC for an appointment.

And that's why he ain't shit. The power to make an impactful difference and is indifferent bc of his greedy ambitions. The people can vote you in if you support them, but these politicians prefer their cowardly cycle.

 

[Da Backshot Champ]

Shit they were already just going to John Jay College and that shit is like midway between a comprehensive high school and an online junior college.

 

[Flawless]

A great idea. Enough of the classism that exists in our country where someone with a college degree is deemed more intelligent than someone that didn't go.

College has more to do with opportunity and discipline than intelligence and experience.

Would you hire someone that was a MP in the Marines that doesn't have a degree or Mary Jane with a degree in Art History?

The reason they required a degree in the first place was to filter out the minority candidates, now that less white people are going to college they are moving the goal post again.

 

[Gazoo]

60 credits is an associate degree from a community college. I would hope we would want a minimum level of academic intelligence serving as LEO. Plus hopefully the maturity it take to complete said courses.
im sure this theoretical MP would qualify from his previous background and training.
There’s nothing classicist about want an intelligent and well trained LEO.

I agree with you bro. I'm just saying we should look beyond a person's specific credentials in SOME instances. Having a degree, in any form, does not adequately define a person. I'm guessing that you know people with degrees that are not the brightest bulb on the tree. At the same time I suspect you know people that don't have a degree that might make excellent law enforcement officers. Those that don't measure up to being police of some type will get weeded out during the exams and boot camp. But to simply pass someone along because they have a degree in Theater Arts is not sufficient. Being a cop is not performing surgery, or operating a NASA vehicle. It's definitely not a job where a person should be stopped at the application process.

You see classism in many parts of the world. The USA is not exempt.

 

[Gazoo]

The reason they required a degree in the first place was to filter out the minority candidates, now that less white people are going to college they are moving the goal post again.

Right. College degrees have always been used as a discriminator. The employer knew that many blacks would not qualify right off the bat.

I'm not saying a degree is worthless. It's just not needed in every goddamned situation. And the business world is just now becoming to recognize this as many programs, accountants and management personnel don't have college degrees.

 

[ronmch20]

He's the reason why I was for Maya Wiley for Mayor. I knew when this creature from the Black Lagoon looking asshole starting talkin' that law and order bullshit he was not gonna be a friend to black and brown folks. Now he's all for putting more uneducated cops on the street like that's a good thing.

 

[trstar]

I agree with you bro. I'm just saying we should look beyond a person's specific credentials in SOME instances. Having a degree, in any form, does not adequately define a person. I'm guessing that you know people with degrees that are not the brightest bulb on the tree. At the same time I suspect you know people that don't have a degree that might make excellent law enforcement officers. Those that don't measure up to being police of some type will get weeded out during the exams and boot camp. But to simply pass someone along because they have a degree in Theater Arts is not sufficient. Being a cop is not performing surgery, or operating a NASA vehicle. It's definitely not a job where a person should be stopped at the application process.

You see classism in many parts of the world. The USA is not exempt.

Ok, I understand your point here. But LEO needs more training for the job. Including empathy and understanding, not just quick draw McGraw. A deeper understanding of the law and rights of the individual I would love to have MPs as cops because they understand and have worked under regulations

 

[blackpepper]

I think it would be OK to hire non-degreed individuals as officer trainees. But, they should do so with the stipulation that they'll have 5 or 6 years to obtain a bachelors degree.

 

[phanatic]

60 credits is an associate degree from a community college. I would hope we would want a minimum level of academic intelligence serving as LEO. Plus hopefully the maturity it take to complete said courses.
im sure this theoretical MP would qualify from his previous background and training.
There’s nothing classicist about want an intelligent and well trained LEO.

I would demand they need to complete sociology, psychology, and philosophy classes. You can't work with people if you don't understand people.

 

[Africanama]

Cops need a four year degree, a physical combine and something similar to the wonderlink.

Cops outside the US have their academy for at least a full year. Imagine, Train Operator for NYC Transit have more training time than police officers.
In my opinion, NYPD need more hand to hand combat train, police officer getting a degree in actual law enforcement, be in the academy for a full year.

 

[dHustla]

Cops need a four year degree, a physical combine and something similar to the wonderlink.

And routine psych evals. Like every 6 months.

 

[blackbull1970]

What the police need is a apprenticeship program like labor unions.

You in the apprentice program for 3 years making minimum wage.

You in the academy for 6 months, next 6 months you walk the beat. No Gun, only a badge, ticket book and baton.

Go back to academy after a year for training on a taser. Back on the beat with more responsibility.

After another year back to the academy. Extensive training on the use of a sidearm. After you pass you assigned to a cop with more than 10 years experience and a clean record. And a cop who never used his firearm.

You test out back at the academy as a Full Police Officer with full pay and benefits.

They need something like that. Gives them enough time to weed out the idiots.

 

[Don Coreleone]

I don't think I'll be going to New York until this coon is out of office

 

[rude_dog]

I have seen no evidence of the college-educated being better cops. Some of the best cops I know only have a high school diploma. Some of the worst cops have college degrees. Veteran status isn’t a good indicator either. Many of these posts presume that 60 college credits are evidence of higher intelligence, it’s not. It’s more of an indicator of their social-economic level. Typically the college graduates are better administratively but not necessarily smarter or better. They’re not better in the streets.

Most cops went to non-selective universities and completed liberal arts degrees. It’s rare to meet one who attended a selective university. I have noticed that one’s who attended a more selective school do tend to be better cops, but not always. I’ve met a couple of idiots from Rutgers, Syracuse and Ohio State. I can count on one hand the cops that took Calculus or had a STEM major.

Very few local cops gave up careers to join the force. Most were working general labor at a plant or construction, even the ones with college degrees. I did know a few teachers.

The police are a reflection of the society they come from. Most are mediocre white men of average intelligence with a sense of entitlement. The college graduates have a bigger sense of it because there were told their liberal arts degree was the pathway to fortune and have found out that’s not true.

 

[World B Free]

Just what we need, the dumb cops get even dumber.......

 

[illdog]

The last thing the system wants is educated free thinkers or...why free college for Cali residences went away/why armed forces still hunt 17y/o h.s. dropouts..

 

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[phanatic]

The last thing the system wants is educated free thinkers or...why free college for Cali residences went away/why armed forces still hunt 17y/o h.s. dropouts..

When I was doing a play last year, the director told me that because I don't have any real training, I don't have any habits to break. When it comes to this type of policing, why would they want someone that went to college and had to be mixed in with all types of people, you all have a common good in mind, so you see these people as fellow humans? Adam's wants people that never left their neighborhoods, so they ignorantly have preconceived ideas about other people. Those make the best shock troopers because they follow orders without question.

 

[illdog]

When I was doing a play last year, the director told me that because I don't have any real training, I don't have any habits to break. When it comes to this type of policing, why would they want someone that went to college and had to be mixed in with all types of people, you all have a common good in mind, so you see these people as fellow humans? Adam's wants people that never left their neighborhoods, so they ignorantly have preconceived ideas about other people. Those make the best shock troopers because they follow orders without question.

Excellent point...or why l.e. loves young marines with combat experience above all..folks programed to follow orders/not over-think killin too much.

 

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