Abortion topic: does choosing to terminate a pregnancy say anything about a woman moral character

is abortion murder


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the embryo/fetus is inside the woman and taxing her resources. Name one resource it gets on its own and not directly or indirectly through use of the mother's body (once it's viable and born it can at least get oxygen on its own). It is the woman's choice what to do with her body. The fetus doesn't get a choice because it isn't viable and therefore not an actual living person yet. Once its viable, the law says that it can't be aborted. That's the way it should be. A developing fetus that can only continue development inside the womb and taxing a woman's body/resources has not rights to do so if the woman doesn't want it to be doing so. Your opinion is just that, your opinion and you're welcome to it. I have a different opinion and thankfully the law is on my side. Is it selfish; maybe, but guess what.... selfishness is absolutely and perfectly legal. Show me the law that says you aren't allowed to be selfish...
Like I said before, it's an ugly decision to have to make, but it is HER right to make it. You have no say thankfully. You can keep arguing your point, but it matters not. It's not your body; it's not your choice. We all have the right to be selfish with our own bodies. I'm damn sure selfish with mine. If there ever comes a time when I may have to choose to save somebody by jumping in front of a bullet or putting myself between someone and a speeding car, it's a decision I'll make, because it's my body. There is no law stating that I have to take that bullet.
Brother rather or not a person is dependent or independent on others resources is not one of websters criteria to be considered a living soul. It is a child. A baby that feels pain.

You right you lawfully can murder a baby and lawfully can do a lot of things. Shit you can fuck someone wife in their house dont make it right. If the baby wasnt alive they couldn't use them for stem cells........oh cuz cells are alive
 
In today’s society morals, integrity, and character are no longer en vogue. Likes and retweets are what matters. We are a morally bankrupt society that rewards bad behavior. For the record, I don’t believe in abortion...personally. However, I also believe in a woman’s right to choose. Who am I to tell a woman what to do with her body.
 
Not even REMOTELY the same thing. :hmm:
Choosing to terminate a pregnancy is not the same thing as consciously choosing to neglect or abuse a child that's already here.
(I don't understand how you could even make that comparison...) :confused:
But I guess I shouldn't be surprised, seeing as how you already believe fathers who're poor shouldn't pay child support... :dunno:

Sounds like some of that sick MGTOW "logic"...:smh:
It's only different if you don't consider the fetus alive
 
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The thing with abortion is this. If you think it aint a life because it depends on another person.....well the moment it leaves the womb it cant provide for itself. Is it ok to just stomp on its head saying "hey he needs help he cant live on its own"
 
So, body parts have not been salvaged from cadavers and implanted into living humans right? Wrong, the can and have been.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/27/AR2006012701569.html

Legality is what matters. You can feel whatever way you feel and I can feel the way I feel. For me, the woman's choice is paramount. The non-viable developing fetus inside her gets no say and has no right over the woman's choice and neither do you or anybody else. Doesn't much matter how you feel about it.


Brother rather or not a person is dependent or independent on others resources is not one of websters criteria to be considered a living soul. It is a child. A baby that feels pain.

You right you lawfully can murder a baby and lawfully can do a lot of things. Shit you can fuck someone wife in their house dont make it right. If the baby wasnt alive they couldn't use them for stem cells........oh cuz cells are alive
 
false equivalence. Remember, pro choice is about the pregnant woman's choice. When it exits the womb a baby can actually live completely independent of that woman. He/she can breath oxygen and eat food without getting it from the woman. It'll need help from somebody, but not from that woman... it no longer needs that woman's body or her body's resources. So what you said below doesn't make sense in the context of this discussion. A baby out of the womb is viable and alive.... helpless, but able to sustain life without being attached to someone else's insides.


The thing with abortion is this. If you think it aint a life because it depends on another person.....well the moment it leaves the womb it cant provide for itself. Is it ok to just stomp on its head saying "hey he needs help he cant live on its own"
 
The thing with abortion is this. If you think it aint a life because it depends on another person.....well the moment it leaves the womb it cant provide for itself. Is it ok to just stomp on its head saying "hey he needs help he cant live on its own"
illogical and ignorant
here let me help you:

can it breathe on its own?
if not -
then its not alive

real simple...
same rules apply for all of us - if we can not breathe on our own - we are technically no longer considered "alive"...
thats why many people choose to sign a DNR
 
Brother rather or not a person is dependent or independent on others resources is not one of websters criteria to be considered a living soul. It is a child. A baby that feels pain.

You right you lawfully can murder a baby and lawfully can do a lot of things. Shit you can fuck someone wife in their house dont make it right. If the baby wasnt alive they couldn't use them for stem cells........oh cuz cells are alive
woefully misinformed... and brings us back again to:

OMG tumor cells are also alive!
- why aren't you out raged at murderous cancer patients?
 
Feeling pain does not make you alive. Just as many adults would prefer not to live with the assistance of machines, if a fetus is incapable of living outside the mothers womb then abortion is not murder.

Is the cutoff 5 months?

Abortion supporters don't let republicans change the narrative. These are the same people that are pro guns and pro death penalty. They have never problem with killing as long as they get to decide who dies.
Her body....hee choice.....



 
If you're not gonna spend 18 years of your life helping her if she keeps it, who tf are you to tell her what to do?

I don't have a problem with a woman choosing what she wants to do with HER life.
 
If you're not gonna spend 18 years of your life helping her if she keeps it, who tf are you to tell her what to do?

I don't have a problem with a woman choosing what she wants to do with HER life.
I dont have the money or resources to help someone that long so stop it. And further more there are people willing to help the child for 18 years it is called adoption.

Thks is dumb ass logic. This is like a heroin seller telling people "aye if you not gonna hire me or support me finacially for the rest of my life who are you to judge me for selling dope to the black community". Some of yall i wonder about....:smh:
 
If you're not gonna spend 18 years of your life helping her if she keeps it, who tf are you to tell her what to do?

I don't have a problem with a woman choosing what she wants to do with HER life.
Guess you cant complain about the president if you not gonna pay his bills. No one has a issue with a woman choosing what she wants to do with her life. Its what she choose to do with someone elses life
 
I dont have the money or resources to help someone that long so stop it. And further more there are people willing to help the child for 18 years it is called adoption.

Thks is dumb ass logic. This is like a heroin seller telling people "aye if you not gonna hire me or support me finacially for the rest of my life who are you to judge me for selling dope to the black community". Some of yall i wonder about....:smh:

Hmmm let's unscramble this...

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I dont have the money or resources to help someone that long...

We could end this here but I have time before work, so let's keep going...

This is like a heroin seller telling people "aye if you not gonna hire me or support me finacially for the rest of my life who are you to judge me for selling dope to the black community". Some of yall i wonder about....:smh:

Thks is dumb ass logic.

There we go. Now we're getting somewhere. Your answer was correct, just in the wrong order. Don't worry, it happens.

Always remember that BGOL is here for you.
Helping dumb mothafuckin newbs since 1996.
 
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Hmmm let's unscramble this...

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We could end this here but I have time before work, so let's keep going...





There we go. Now we're getting somewhere. Your answer was correct, just in the wrong order. Don't worry, it happens.

Always remember that BGOL is here for you.
Helping dumb mothafuckin newbs since 1996.
I knew it. Makes too much sense for you to respond intellectually to. I suspect you are a coon. With that logic you would also subcribe to the idea of "why judge another man for standing for the national anthem if you not going to pay his entire nfl salary"

For some reason holding people accountable for their actions esp the actions they do that affect others is against your moral code:clown
 
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I knew it. Makes too much sense for you to respond intellectually to.

Respond intellectually to? The first words outta your mouth were, "this is dumbass logic." Yet I'm the one with a limited train of thought? Those with ACTUAL intellect can respond without resorting to beratement but I digress.

When your posts start making sense, you will be heard.

Moving forward, an infamous conservative, republican tactic is to resort name calling when all else fails and your answer is logically shredded, so you can save the desperate coon talk. You're simply in your feelings because someone disagrees with your POV which speaks volumes about your trolling self and towing the white mans line.

Furthermore, I only respond to intellects and the humble around here, which going off your posts around here as of late, involve neither. I simply entertain children like you for fun.

However, I've wasted enough time with your rookie status, so this will be the last time I'll be engaging with you. You've been warned.
 
Respond intellectually to? The first words outta your mouth were, "this is dumbass logic." Yet I'm the one with a limited train of thought? Those with ACTUAL intellect can respond without resorting to beratement but I digress.

When your posts start making sense, you will be heard.

Moving forward, an infamous conservative, republican tactic is to resort name calling when all else fails and your answer is logically shredded, so you can save the desperate coon talk. You're simply in your feelings because someone disagrees with your POV which speaks volumes about your trolling self and towing the white mans line.

Furthermore, I only respond to intellects and the humble around here, which going off your posts around here as of late, involve neither. I simply entertain children like you for fun.

However, I've wasted enough time with your rookie status, so this will be the last time I'll be engaging with you. You've been warned.
I stopped reading after the first sentence

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Your logic is dumb and for reasons i explained in which you cant refute.

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Guess you cant complain about the president if you not gonna pay his bills. No one has a issue with a woman choosing what she wants to do with her life. Its what she choose to do with someone elses life
I stopped reading after the first sentence

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Your logic is dumb and for reasons i explained in which you cant refute.

:colin:Ed your post

Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet: murderers!

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you talk of "belief" and soul but want to argue about what is alive?
by your logic abortion isn't as deadly as masterbation
by your logic oncologists and cancer patients are mass murders
I can explain my logic better than you can explain my logic. So stop. Sperm is not a human being. Same reason why we dont value a dogs life as much as a person life. It is a dog. Its sperm.....sperm is not a human being
 
I can explain my logic better than you can explain my logic. So stop. Sperm is not a human being. Same reason why we dont value a dogs life as much as a person life. It is a dog. Its sperm.....sperm is not a human being
lol... you still haven't explained "what" is a human being...
I'm never explaining your "logic" -I'm poking at your deficit

Son, your logic through this entire thread is flawed and I've shown you why multiple times

whats the difference between an embryo and a tumor?
 
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JR Smith and his wife, Jewel, today (Jan. 7) shared an update on social media regarding what they have been through the past five days as a family.

In a video clip, the Cleveland Cavaliers player, with the help of his wife, reveals the painful news that their baby daughter has been born five months prematurely.

In the beginning of the clip, Smith addresses his recent thumb injury, thanking fans for their support following his surgery, but then goes on to explain he and his wife have been going through something much more serious than his injured finger.

Following addressing his fans, Smith lets his wife do the talking, detailing their decision to publicly share the deeply personal news regarding their third daughter.

"We know we’re not the only family going through this, who has been through this, and who will ever go through it," Jewel says, on Uninterrupted, the video platform created by Smith's teammate LeBron James. "That’s why we decided to share what we’re going through with you guys. Please keep us in your prayers and we’ll do the same for everybody else."

The couple also share their daughter's name, Dakota, as well as the difficult fact she currently weighs one pound and is five days old.

We're keeping the Smith family and their baby girl in our thoughts and prayers. See their latest message in the video clip below.

In the beginning of the clip, Smith addresses his recent thumb injury, thanking fans for their support following his surgery, but then goes on to explain he and his wife have been going through something much more serious than his injured finger.

Following addressing his fans, Smith lets his wife do the talking, detailing their decision to publicly share the deeply personal news regarding their third daughter.

"We know we’re not the only family going through this, who has been through this, and who will ever go through it," Jewel says, on Uninterrupted, the video platform created by Smith's teammate LeBron James. "That’s why we decided to share what we’re going through with you guys. Please keep us in your prayers and we’ll do the same for everybody else."

The couple also share their daughter's name, Dakota, as well as the difficult fact she currently weighs one pound and is five days old.

We're keeping the Smith family and their baby girl in our thoughts and prayers. See their latest message in the video clip below.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealJRSmith">@TheRealJRSmith</a> and his wife share difficult family news. <a href="https://t.co/efNsDANUo8">pic.twitter.com/efNsDANUo8</a></p>&mdash; UNINTERRUPTED (@uninterrupted) <a href="">January 7, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Why?

If you feel someone isnt responsible enough with their own body why would they be responsible for taking care another human life? The responsibility now falls on society. And to be frank, society does not care about children after they leave the mothers womb.

No mater what you feel about it, nobody has the right to tell someone what to do and how to feel. Whether you agree or disagree, it's their choice. We have to accept it.
Called adoption
 
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