A Republican's View of History

[thoughtone]

Fact!
2+2=4
Fact!
The Soviet Union Failed

So did the Confederacy. Join the 21st century.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

The point is your not damned to have just take a rationed pain pill like you would be if you lock down the healthcare market.

Re-type that so it makes sense and is relevent to what I said.
Or explain to me how what we have right now isn't rationing.

I am assuming you are talking about me When you said his beliefs? You say they are contrary to facts, history, and math, but I never see your facts history or Math. I study history, math (I have Math up to the graduate level have a masters degree in Info Science, and computer science minoring in statistics and physics... ie I am NOT on gubment handouts) and on message boards facts are "flexible".

Fact!
2+2=4
Fact!
The Soviet Union Failed

Your opinion!
Obama is a good president
Your opinion!
Republicans are RacistsYour opinion!
Markets don't work and therefore we need to "hire" (more like be subjugated to) pointed-hatted, all-knowing, geniosus who can plan a 14trillion dollar economy down to what lightbulbs to produce (though they may be poisonous).
Your opinion!
The socialists want to take away the means of production from the rich (which in your mind means "white people"- I suspect of course) and distribute the proceeds between the rest of us fairly?

You don't have to put words in my mouth or try to figure out how I feel or think: ask me. As you normally do, you make up an argument that I never said and then attack it. Neither of those things are my opinion and I've never stated otherwise. If you can't dispute my actual words, don't waste your or my time with foolishness.

Here are my opinions (based on how I know people really act and how Socialism/Communism has worked throughout the world)!

1) Socialists will establish a political class like they always do and that class, which will be very hard to get into btw, will have all the power, get all the bitches and money, the rest of will end of at worst scraping around starving to death, or at best be reclined to a life of perpetual adolescence like in Europe. Never working to improve your own life and situation but always relying on our government overlords to give us our daily bread... "Yip skippie, sounds like fun"~Upgrade Dave
My opinion, living like that is pointless and depressing. I would much rather work hard and earn my way in this world... But that's just my opinion...

2) Obama is a lousy president who will lead us down that road AT BEST, at worst the currency will hyperinflate, the country will disolve and break up into smaller weaker countries susceptable to attack/annexation from other basket-case nations/regimes (Venezuela, PRC, Canada wouldn't be too bad-they've gone conservatively recently)

Just stupid beyond words and unworthy of reply.

3) Democrats and Republics can be racists... It has nothing to do with there policies however, it has do with how they feel about black people. If black people embrace self-reliance and upward mobility they too will be the rich-gettin-richer...

Agreed.
Black people already embrace self-reliance and upward mobility which is why most of us aren't poor and we've been able to maintain a middle class despite taking serious blows in the last recession. To believe otherwise is very telling.

4) If you want to stop being part of the poor-gettin-poorer, get the fuck off welfare, educate your kids with real-world skills not community organizing bs... Again, just an opinion, I don't have the cold hard stats to back it up.

That's not an opinion, that's a lie. This same "community organizing" you seem to have a problem with is what gets people to participate in elections, builds youth centers in poor communities where children go to do homework and learn those skills you were talking about and meet to deal with things going on in their neighborhoods.
I don't know how community organizing became a bad thing to Republicans (not all). Maybe you guys want to dislike Obama so much you attack people who aren't even connected to him because they're "community organizers".

You have zero facts bruh, just your opinions based of your biases. I have opinions based off my biases based off my experience in the real world getting skills and pulling myself out of poverty. I am not smarter than anyone I know, infact, I might be the least intellectually gifted of all the people I know. I just learned at a real early age, that I better get my shit in order first... then everything else will fall into place...

I post facts that expose your opinions as untrue all the time. Go back and check the threads (Clarence Thomas was the last).
This is how the mentally fragile work: your opinions are based off your bias and experiences but mine are just based on my biases. Huh? So there's just no way I've had experiences in my life to mold me the way you have?
I have no doubt you are the least intellectually gifted person you know. You show us that everytime you post.

Seems like the only way people need to represent our founding is to talk about the atrocities instead of the accomplishments.

I wish more people would actually talk to ethic Africans, and listen at how they view African Americans.

It's very convenient to forget how our ancestors became slaves in the first place.

Everyone wants to focus on how this country is built off murder, and social injustices. I ask you this. What purpose does this serves really?

To prove that this country is just down right wrong in its existence? To prove that we need to have NO countries, but a world with out borders?

If that's your answer, do you think NO atrocities would come from that?

A world without borders would probably push a "no religion" mandate. Most of our community would go against that. Who do you think they will exterminate? Think about it...

Another one who types out wild assumptions and cast them on someone else to make their vapid arguments.
Show one time anyone has said that garbage you posted, just once.
The point is being historically accurate instead of believing the constant spin that politicians and tv talking heads hide behind.
If you need a concrete reason why the true history of this country should be discussed (all the good and the bad), see how Texas had decided to rewrite the history books for it's children. Listening to you, those of us who like the truth would be disarmed while Conservatives (a brand name, not a fact) would be free to alter whatever history they see fit. To them, history means something, so it should mean something to everyone.

I have no idea what an ethnic Africans view on Black Americans has to do with anything. I've made many different friends from many different African nations. They're no more monolithic than Black Americans or anyone else.

 

[actinanass]

Another one who types out wild assumptions and cast them on someone else to make their vapid arguments.
Show one time anyone has said that garbage you posted, just once.
The point is being historically accurate instead of believing the constant spin that politicians and tv talking heads hide behind.
If you need a concrete reason why the true history of this country should be discussed (all the good and the bad), see how Texas had decided to rewrite the history books for it's children. Listening to you, those of us who like the truth would be disarmed while Conservatives (a brand name, not a fact) would be free to alter whatever history they see fit. To them, history means something, so it should mean something to everyone.

I have no idea what an ethnic Africans view on Black Americans has to do with anything. I've made many different friends from many different African nations. They're no more monolithic than Black Americans or anyone else.

1. It's called beating someone to the punch. Thus, why I said "if".

2. I was just asking what's the point of this thread. Hell, not to far from that time, some of our ancestors OWNED slaves. It was a wrong, yet popular practice. What everyone should be talking about is how wrong it was at that time, and forgiving the people who partake in that practice. What are you teaching that makes this discussion productive?

3. It's always the TV fault huh? GTFOH!!

4. My point in bringing the African statement is that our ancestors would never had been slaves if their ancestors didn't sold us out. Africans swear up and down *kaya for example* that this didn't happen. Yet, they always look down on other people. *I've dealt with such things personally* I wouldn't semi-generalize if this didn't happen as often to me, and other people I know. Don't believe me, go try to marry an African chick.

 

[QueEx]

Leaving aside whatever his point might be, the statement that "slavery *during that time* was a necessary evil" is, in my mind, simply assinine! To put it quite simply, if those enslaved would have agreed with you, they would have volunteered for the all that was meted out to them by the low-life bastards whom you now faithfully defend. Not only did they not volunteer to be enslaved, they actively, willfully, courageously and often to their demise - tried to escape their bondage. You sir, may need to consider escaping yours.

Peace,

QueEx

Bottomline, all of this is ancient history.

Wrong. Your "slavery *during that time* was a necessary evil" comment made it a present day, though grossly erroneous, declaration regarding a past event, hence, present day comment was and is relevant and necessary to dispel the blasphemous statement.

No ???

QueEx

 

[Upgrade Dave]

1. It's called beating someone to the punch. Thus, why I said "if".

But no one said anything like that, so don't go into wild speculation when there are perfectly clear argument actually being made.

2. I was just asking what's the point of this thread. Hell, not to far from that time, some of our ancestors OWNED slaves. It was a wrong, yet popular practice. What everyone should be talking about is how wrong it was at that time, and forgiving the people who partake in that practice. What are you teaching that makes this discussion productive?

Can't speak for thought1 but there seems to be a very clear revisionist remembering of history that's taking over the Republican party and not just on slavery.
I don't have to forgive anyone because they're dead and didn't do anything to me. I don't think most people are walking around with some hatred of old, dead White men over slavery but there needs to be constant pushback when people try to alter history for their own advantage.

3. It's always the TV fault huh? GTFOH!!

Who said that? C'mon, man.

4. My point in bringing the African statement is that our ancestors would never had been slaves if their ancestors didn't sold us out. Africans swear up and down *kaya for example* that this didn't happen. Yet, they always look down on other people. *I've dealt with such things personally* I wouldn't semi-generalize if this didn't happen as often to me, and other people I know. Don't believe me, go try to marry an African chick.

To the first part, there is truth to that but many were also kidnapped by Whites and/or sold by Arabs so there's plenty of blame to lay around.
You had negative interactions with Africans, I have not, so that automatically disqualifies your blanket generalization (not me because I never made one). You can find Black people who will look down on Black folks right here in America (not rich enough, too light/dark),so why should Africans be any different? Still not relevent to what we're talking about.

 

[Dmain_Event]

Re-type that so it makes sense and is relevent to what I said.
Or explain to me how what we have right now isn't rationing.

It is rationing... Irrational rationing. The cost of healthcare goods and services (medicine, doctors visits etc...) go through the roof so you can't pay out of pocket for the cost of simple care, and you have to take what they give you cause nobody is making anything else cause its illegal to compete with the government (Ask Natural-Paths what an FDA raid on their herbal pills looks-like... very enlightening).
Markets act like a natural rationing mechanism. Work harder if you want more or expensive care... Sounds ruff, but the alternative is lousy medicine at INSANE costs. Most of the medical stuff we have we don't need anyway.

You don't have to put words in my mouth or try to figure out how I feel or think: ask me. As you normally do, you make up an argument that I never said and then attack it. Neither of those things are my opinion and I've never stated otherwise. If you can't dispute my actual words, don't waste your or my time with foolishness.

What am I doing right now?
Like I said, you talk big, but you aint said shit!!!!
This dude's on a porn board talking about wasten time

Just stupid beyond words and unworthy of reply.

^^^So what do you call that^^^... BTW I like the tone... Insulting my thoughts...
Now I can go back to calling you, a Commi...

Agreed.
Black people already embrace self-reliance and upward mobility which is why most of us aren't poor and we've been able to maintain a middle class despite taking serious blows in the last recession. To believe otherwise is very telling.

I know I do. I know several other black people that do... I will get to the poverty pimps later...

That's not an opinion, that's a lie. This same "community organizing" you seem to have a problem with is what gets people to participate in elections, builds youth centers in poor communities where children go to do homework and learn those skills you were talking about and meet to deal with things going on in their neighborhoods.
I don't know how community organizing became a bad thing to Republicans (not all). Maybe you guys want to dislike Obama so much you attack people who aren't even connected to him because they're "community organizers".

An opinion can be an untruth... And the fact that you think that that's a lie is just your Opinion. What's the point of participating in elections if they just vote for more Reds????
What about all these people that get roused up to go to CEO's home and badger them and there kids... after Bailing them out?
They should be spending there energy doing something constructive. They would if they had a better education that encouraged them to think outside the box and not to hate CEO's and other producers.

I post facts that expose your opinions as untrue all the time. Go back and check the threads (Clarence Thomas was the last).
This is how the mentally fragile work: your opinions are based off your bias and experiences but mine are just based on my biases. Huh? So there's just no way I've had experiences in my life to mold me the way you have?
I have no doubt you are the least intellectually gifted person you know. You show us that everytime you post.

I will get to the other threads in due time (very busy... can't spend all my time on a porn board debating Commies on economic policy... That's like arguing with special edd students). I guess I am more intellectually gifted than you then, cause everytime you post something I aint impressed

So... Lets recapp...

You aint said shit... and I blew your arguments out of the water again...
Any questions????

 

[thoughtone]

As a black man, it hurts me to say this, but slavery *during that time* was a necessary evil.

With thought like this, perhaps, his being the so-called loudest, is a badge of honor most deserved.

QueEx

It's that Texass education!

Notice periodically AAA always prefaces some of his posts with 'As a black man'. Evidentially if he didn't make us aware of this assumption, we would assume a republican was writing his posts.

Oh, one is....