A question that will cause hotep anti-Christians cognitive dissonance

[Hey Julian!]

Again notice the pattern of this thread. Mr answering questions while atheist duck mine. I mean it cool romans 3:3 i dont have to convert people. I just have to tell people. Thats all. Rather you accept or believe is on you.

But again ill answer your question
This book has prophecies in it* thats why it is more special than other books.

Next question you being facetious.

And no.

Now why do atheist allways duck questions while i can answer all yallz? What history does the land of israel have datinf back before 33AD?

Questions you have to duck

OK, I see then. You know a hell of lot about amazing things that was written in the past, cool. But, still can’t tell us about those same things happening today and why you haven’t seen it with your own eyes. Yadda, yadda miracles only in happen in front of the chosen ones(which you’re not one of). The only people that can communicate with God are chosen(which you’re not) and you can’t tell me of a living prophet who can speak directly with God or use his communication with God to ask for miracles that would instants convert billions. Supreme beings sure act like the temperamental powerless people they created.

 

[TooTrilla]

Religion is man made. All the particulars don’t matter. The sooner blacks ditch religion, the better off we will be. Think for yourself. If sky daddy was looking down, all the cops merking black men would be dealt with. Racists and pedophiles wouldn’t be church leaders and mega pastors. Religion is false hope shrouded in prosperity payments. Salvation on layaway.

Or He is letting it happen

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Miracle? Does the miracle have to have a scientific western white explanation or not?

OK, I see then. You know a hell of lot about amazing things that was written in the past, cool. But, still can’t tell us about those same things happening today and why you haven’t seen it with your own eyes. Yadda, yadda miracles only in happen in front of the chosen ones(which you’re not one of). The only people that can communicate with God are chosen(which you’re not) and you can’t tell me of a living prophet who can speak directly with God or use his communication with God to ask for miracles that would instants convert billions. Supreme beings sure act like the temperamental powerless people they created.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

He is making it happen

Or He is letting it happen

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

OK, I see then. You know a hell of lot about amazing things that was written in the past, cool. But, still can’t tell us about those same things happening today and why you haven’t seen it with your own eyes. Yadda, yadda miracles only in happen in front of the chosen ones(which you’re not one of). The only people that can communicate with God are chosen(which you’re not) and you can’t tell me of a living prophet who can speak directly with God or use his communication with God to ask for miracles that would instants convert billions. Supreme beings sure act like the temperamental powerless people they created.

Gods chosen people were black bruh. Self hate needs to stop. This entire book is talking about you.

 

[Hey Julian!]

Miracle? Does the miracle have to have a scientific western white explanation or not?

No, it just has have a make it happen in front me type of explanation. You got any prophet connections? Or do I have to read the entire history before it becomes real?

 

[Hey Julian!]

Gods chosen people were black bruh. Self hate needs to stop. This entire book is talking about you.

So then can your chosen ass communicate with God and make a miracle happen? It was done A LOT in the Bible , but you can’t find me one living prophet to make any of it happen today?

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

So then can your chosen ass communicate with God and make a miracle happen? It was done A LOT in the Bible , but you can’t find me one living prophet to make any of it happen today?

Yes. Does that mean everyone happens? No. I didnt say i have a direct hotline to him. I said his prophets. All of his chosen people arent prophets.

Have to have the faith of a mustard seed. But you first have to be honest with yourself. You deserve to know the truth.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

No, it just has have a make it happen in front me type of explanation. You got any prophet connections? Or do I have to read the entire history before it becomes real?

why is it that you cant answer 1 of my questions yet i answer 100% of yours?

This why i say be honest to yourself you have to be willfully ignorant.

 

[Hey Julian!]

why is it that you cant answer 1 of my questions yet i answer 100% of yours?

This why i say be honest to yourself you have to be willfully ignorant.

I can’t argue with you about shit that I haven’t read READ up on thoroughly , BUT what I’m asking requires no reading AT ALL. If you’re telling us what happened in the Bible is real and factual, then asking can any of those similar events be reproduced today shouldn’t be a problem? At some point we’ve all read history and have chosen wether to believe or not, agreed?

Well, the nature of the things that are written about in the Bible have a certain unbelievability(ie men walking on water), but that can be easily overcome if somebody, anybody can do it today. Can you find me that person who can do any those things today. Not someone who can sit me down and recite history, but someone who can call on God and make shit happen in the here and now. Do you or anyone you know have the ability to do that? If I can see it and you can see it ,we’d have nothing to argue about, but it doesn’t seem you have that ability. All YOU want to do is argue about the text, not the actual action.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

I can’t argue with you about shit that I haven’t read READ up on thoroughly , BUT what I’m asking requires no reading AT ALL. If you’re telling us what happened in the Bible is real and factual, then asking can any of those similar events be reproduced today shouldn’t be a problem? At some point we’ve all read history and have chosen wether to believe or not, agreed?

Well, the nature of the things that are written about in the Bible have a certain unbelievability(ie men walking on water), but that can be easily overcome if somebody, anybody can do it today. Can you find me that person who can do any those things today. Not someone who can sit me down and recite history, but someone who can call on God and make shit happen in the here and now. Do you or anyone you know have the ability to do that? If I can see it and you can see it ,we’d have nothing to argue about, but it doesn’t seem you have that ability. All YOU want to do is argue about the text, no the actual action.

Sure....some of them have been some have not. Miracles of exorcising evil spirits happens till this day. Do you believe in witchcraft and evil spirits?

 

[Hey Julian!]

Sure....some of them have been some have not. Miracles of exorcising evil spirits happens till this day. Do you believe in witchcraft and evil spirits?

I’m Jamaican, I’ve heard enough Obia stories and seen countless people get the “Holy Spirit” in church, but still not convinced. You see the same “spirit” in ritual African ceremonies, Hindu ceremonies and so on. I can’t decipher whether it’s evil or not or just some mental break than can be induced with enough effort, I need something much simpler. Turn some water into wine, walk on water, make someone turn into a pillar of salt (I know vengeance god, but still),Samson’s strength, Etc. Something two people can acknowledge and experience at the same time that would be pretty undeniable. Remember Im not asking for what hasn’t been done before. I don’t know what people are experiencing when they claim the “spirit “. Why are those other type of miracles so scarce today?

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

I’m Jamaican, I’ve heard enough Obia stories and seen countless people get the “Holy Spirit” in church, but still not convinced. You see the same “spirit” in ritual African ceremonies, Hindu ceremonies and so on. I can’t decipher whether it’s evil or not or just some mental break than can be induced with enough effort, I need something much simpler. Turn some water into wine, walk on water, make someone turn into a pillar of salt (I know vengeance god, but still),Samson’s strength, Etc. Something two people can acknowledge and experience at the same time that would be pretty undeniable. Remember Im not asking for what hasn’t been done before. I don’t know what people are experiencing when they claim the “spirit “. Why are those other type of miracles so scare today?

One second

 

[bububang]

lol, fuzzy out here on the 1 star campaign

 

[Dannyblueyes]

No. Um i know religion is man made. I wont duck that.

I known the bible was written by man. Um the bible tells you who wrote what books or what scribes wrote it.

But God is the one that inspired them. Big difference.

These men are writing down what God told them hence why you see "thus saith the lord".

So lets try this again. Culture is man made. Only thing is this african culture was not inspire by God . So the question stilm remains

Should be abandon culture and heritage since it is man made? This is another question that will cause cognitive dissonance or will make you think.

It is a easy

Yes
Or
No

Question

I honestly don't know if the Christian bible was inspired by god through or not. What I do know is that these scriptures were heavily edited by man alone. They took out all the gnostic texts except for Revelations, the book of Solomon (aka the apocrypha) and possibly many others.

Likewise it has had parts added to it (Islam, Mormonism) had parts taken away (Judaism) and had existing verses essentially Photoshopped to accommodate all sorts of different beliefs.

The Christian bible is an interesting, though imperfect, oral history of how a group of desert nomads became a nation state. The New Testament is an even more fascinating story of how that nation state was overthrown by a revolutionary carpenter who literally became larger than life. It also tells about how this movement was contradicted and co-opted by the Roman government through a self-appointed apostle.

The bible is a huge part of our world's heritage and is an essential cultural artifact. It should never be abandoned.

However it never be considered an accurate historical document, scientific manuscript, or guide for morality either.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

I honestly don't know if the Christian bible was inspired by god through or not. What I do know is that these scriptures were heavily edited by man alone. They took out all the gnostic texts except for Revelations, the book of Solomon (aka the apocrypha) and possibly many others.

Likewise it has had parts added to it (Islam, Mormonism) had parts taken away (Judaism) and had existing verses essentially Photoshopped to accommodate all sorts of different beliefs.

The Christian bible is an interesting, though imperfect, oral history of how a group of desert nomads became a nation state. The New Testament is an even more fascinating story of how that nation state was overthrown by a revolutionary carpenter who literally became larger than life. It also tells about how this movement was contradicted and co-opted by the Roman government through a self-appointed apostle.

The bible is a huge part of our world's heritage and is an essential cultural artifact. It should never be abandoned.

However it never be considered an accurate historical document, scientific manuscript, or guide for morality either.

These scriptures were heavily edited by man and still are. You have a queen James version on the bible that appeals to homos.

No arguement there. In fact no book has more versions and translation than the bible.

But what black history has not been tampered with by cacs?

 

[gene cisco]

Is this another debate on who made which fairy tale first? The one good thing about the western world is that they are outgrowing this bullshit.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Is this another debate on who made which fairy tale first? The one good thing about the western world is that they are outgrowing this bullshit.

Look you one of the few guys i have hope for. Are you anti bible or anti culture?

Because most african cultures have a god(s) in them.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

I’m Jamaican, I’ve heard enough Obia stories and seen countless people get the “Holy Spirit” in church, but still not convinced. You see the same “spirit” in ritual African ceremonies, Hindu ceremonies and so on. I can’t decipher whether it’s evil or not or just some mental break than can be induced with enough effort, I need something much simpler. Turn some water into wine, walk on water, make someone turn into a pillar of salt (I know vengeance god, but still),Samson’s strength, Etc. Something two people can acknowledge and experience at the same time that would be pretty undeniable. Remember Im not asking for what hasn’t been done before. I don’t know what people are experiencing when they claim the “spirit “. Why are those other type of miracles so scarce today?

If you jamican then you know that Jamicans are the tribe of benjamin. Jamicans will tell you babylon is falling. Aka America.

What happend?

And evil spirit i dont mean possessing someone.

Anyways i know that shake rattle and roll dance you see in church is wicked.
Why dont we see these signs....

Matthew 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

Is this not a wicked and adultrous generation that Yahawashi warned us about? Ironically he gave us signs but you want miracles.....see above quote

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Just look at the atheist in here examine them closely. And their reasons for not accepting the bible. Also notice white atheist are waaay less emotional. A white atheist if you never talked to one look up debates with white atheist....are much calmer and genuinely dont believe. They dont believe because they havent seen proof nor talked to god

Black atheist.

They dont believe in god because

*Eddie long raped a boy
*they grandma died of cancer
*the white man edited the bible
*white man wrote the bible


But then when you talk to them and say axioms they cant deny something interesting happens.

Tell a black atheist "ya know the first popes were black

That kinda fucks them up they will not deny it but will not acknowledge it.

They say "white man tampered with it" bring up "what history hasnt the white man tampered with, all egyptian history isnt engraved in stone they had papyrus as well"

That fucks them up

They say "religion is man made" then you respond to them "culture is man made to, do you disregard culture because it is man made"

It fucks them up and they allways get mad

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Just look at the atheist in here examine them closely. And their reasons for not accepting the bible. Also notice white atheist are waaay less emotional. A white atheist if you never talked to one look up debates with white atheist....are much calmer and genuinely dont believe. They dont believe because they havent seen proof nor talked to god

Black atheist.

They dont believe in god because

*Eddie long raped a boy
*they grandma died of cancer
*the white man edited the bible
*white man wrote the bible


But then when you talk to them and say axioms they cant deny something interesting happens.

Tell a black atheist "ya know the first popes were black

That kinda fucks them up they will not deny it but will not acknowledge it.

They say "white man tampered with it" bring up "what history hasnt the white man tampered with, all egyptian history isnt engraved in stone they had papyrus as well"

That fucks them up

They say "religion is man made" then you respond to them "culture is man made to, do you disregard culture because it is man made"

It fucks them up and they allways get mad

 

[gene cisco]

Look you one of the few guys i have hope for. Are you anti bible or anti culture?

Because most african cultures have a god(s) in them.

Not anti-culture, but I am anti-religion. All ancient cultures invented gods and religions. It's what people needed to explain the world and death. More advanced things get, the less a need for religions and gods.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Not anti-culture, but I am anti-religion. All ancient cultures invented gods and religions. It's what people needed to explain the world and death. More advanced things get, the less a need for religions and gods.

Right so if you not anti culture ("which glad you didnt say that cuz every adopts culture white culture being the default culture").

But here is the thing. Whats wrong with the culture of the bible? If you can accept a culture and not it's god's why cant you accept the culture of the bible and not the god?

Whats wrong with: thou shalt not kill
Dont be a homo
Dont kidnap a man
Dont commit adultry
Love your own people.


Whats wrong with that

 

[Hey Julian!]

If you jamican then you know that Jamicans are the tribe of benjamin. Jamicans will tell you babylon is falling. Aka America.

What happend?

And evil spirit i dont mean possessing someone.

Anyways i know that shake rattle and roll dance you see in church is wicked.
Why dont we see these signs....

Matthew 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

Is this not a wicked and adultrous generation that Yahawashi warned us about? Ironically he gave us signs but you want miracles.....see above quote

Well, playa I don't know what to tell you. Ain't good enough for me. I'm sure there's enough literature on reading teas leaves and how to interpret them. Enough to start seeing signs in everything, but it's still more of that grey area subject-to-interpretation thing. You had at least one thing right and that's tradition and heritage is manmade and does bond a people. For generations of Africans affected by the slave trade, the bible ain't gonna cut. Most Blacks across the Atlantic already hold Christianity in common with different interpretations outside of white Jesus, but that isn't waking anybody up. If ever it happens, it will be a practical tradition/solution and not some splintered religion with 30 different denominations and ways to interpret said religion. Just my IMO.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Well, playa I don't know what to tell you. Ain't good enough for me. I'm sure there's enough literature on reading teas leaves and how to interpret them. Enough to start seeing signs in everything, but it's still more of that grey area subject-to-interpretation thing. You had at least one thing right and that's tradition and heritage is manmade and does bond a people. For generations of Africans affected by the slave trade, the bible ain't gonna cut. Most Blacks across the Atlantic already hold Christianity in common with different interpretations outside of white Jesus, but that isn't waking anybody up. If ever it happens, it will be a practical tradition/solution and not some splintered religion with 30 different denominations and ways to interpret said religion. Just my IMO.

I wanna focus on this in bold right here.

Brother this is the furthest thing from thr truth.

Brothers are waking up.

Did you know every slave revolt on america was started by blacks that realized they were actually the people written from the book? Do you know the history of nat turner? And his slave revolt?

It was lead by....the bible.

No other culture gets black people together like this book.

Denmark vessy (if i spelled it right) led slave revolt. With the bible. Gabriel prossor same thing.

 

[gene cisco]

Right so if you not anti culture ("which glad you didnt say that cuz every adopts culture white culture being the default culture").

But here is the thing. Whats wrong with the culture of the bible? If you can accept a culture and not it's god's why cant you accept the culture of the bible and not the god?

Whats wrong with: thou shalt not kill
Dont be a homo
Dont kidnap a man
Dont commit adultry
Love your own people.


Whats wrong with that

Even if we eliminate the god aspect, the culture was kind of fucked up. I mean, being able to rape women and then make them your wife. The genocide? It's only modern social evolution that has tamed some of the nonsense in religion. That's lead to most people basically being deists who thump a bible cherrypicking the text.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Even if we eliminate the god aspect, the culture was kind of fucked up. I mean, being able to rape women and then make them your wife. The genocide? It's only modern social evolution that has tamed some of the nonsense in religion. That's lead to most people basically being deists who thump a bible cherrypicking the text.

Rape women and make them your wife.....do you realize this wasnt exclusively the bible culture. You couldnt rape a woman and make them your wife she had to be single, in a field, and you had to have the money to pay the dowry which was 50 shekels. If you didnt you couldnt.

Genocide is part of every culture. You dont think african nations had civil wars? Every culture has it's taboo. Shit in american culture you can mutate into a woman....so you rather have this culture then then black culture?

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Well, playa I don't know what to tell you. Ain't good enough for me. I'm sure there's enough literature on reading teas leaves and how to interpret them. Enough to start seeing signs in everything, but it's still more of that grey area subject-to-interpretation thing. You had at least one thing right and that's tradition and heritage is manmade and does bond a people. For generations of Africans affected by the slave trade, the bible ain't gonna cut. Most Blacks across the Atlantic already hold Christianity in common with different interpretations outside of white Jesus, but that isn't waking anybody up. If ever it happens, it will be a practical tradition/solution and not some splintered religion with 30 different denominations and ways to interpret said religion. Just my IMO.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

These scriptures were heavily edited by man and still are. You have a queen James version on the bible that appeals to homos.

No arguement there. In fact no book has more versions and translation than the bible.

But what black history has not been tampered with by cacs?

In that case there's no reason to be a Christian because there's no telling what could be in those original books.

Of course, that's assuming that Scrolls were actually inspired by God and not just the ramblings of Iron Age peasants. That is far too big of a leap of faith for me.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

In that case there's no reason to be a Christian because there's no telling what could be in those original books.

Of course, that's assuming that Scrolls were actually inspired by God and not just the ramblings of Iron Age peasants. That is far too big of a leap of faith for me.

This is where faith comes in.

Again black history has been tampered with. All egyptian history is not written in stone most of it is papyrus and texts.

So by your own logic throw all black history out since whites have tampered with it.

Who do you think translated these african literature for us? You have to have faith that it is preserved.

So do you toss out all history tampered with by whites or just the bible because it was tampered with by whites?

 

[gene cisco]

Rape women and make them your wife.....do you realize this wasnt exclusively the bible culture. You couldnt rape a woman and make them your wife she had to be single, in a field, and you had to have the money to pay the dowry which was 50 shekels. If you didnt you couldnt.

Genocide is part of every culture. You dont think african nations had civil wars? Every culture has it's taboo. Shit in american culture you can mutate into a woman....so you rather have this culture then then black culture?

I'd rather have advanced culture. Doesn't matter what race we are comparing culture too. The scientific achievements of the last 150-200 years are cultural in nature, correct? Secular minds made the shift and tamed religious nonsense as much as can be expected.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

I'd rather have advanced culture. Doesn't matter what race we are comparing culture too. The scientific achievements of the last 150-200 years are cultural in nature, correct? Secular minds made the shift and tamed religious nonsense as much as can be expected.

Advanced culture is homosexual feminism you better than that bruh

 

[Dannyblueyes]

This is where faith comes in.

Again black history has been tampered with. All egyptian history is not written in stone most of it is papyrus and texts.

So by your own logic throw all black history out since whites have tampered with it.

Who do you think translated these african literature for us? You have to have faith that it is preserved.

So do you toss out all history tampered with by whites or just the bible because it was tampered with by whites?

Logic says that you don't live your life or claim religious affiliation to a book with such a huge astrix on it. Especially one where its most prolific writer constantly contradicts its most important character.

History has been tampered with too, but at least nobody shuns you for not following ancient Ethiopian law. Nobody goes to war over the words of a 3,000 year old Ghanaian prophet. We're free to take African spiritual systems on our own terms. Accepting what works and rejecting the test without any fear of burning in a mythical hell (the product of an Italian drug addict from the middle ages).

Now if you'll excuse me I'm about to eat a scroll that is like honey to my lips but bitter to my stomach and dream of many revelations.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Logic says that you don't live your life or claim religious affiliation to a book with such a huge astrix on it. Especially one where its most prolific writer constantly contradicts its most important character.

History has been tampered with too, but at least nobody shuns you for not following ancient Ethiopian law. Nobody goes to war over the words of a 3,000 year old Ghanaian prophet. We're free to take African spiritual systems on our own terms. Accepting what works and rejecting the test without any fear of burning in a mythical hell (the product of an Italian drug addict from the middle ages).

Now if you'll excuse me I'm about to eat a scroll that is like honey to my lips but bitter to my stomach and dream of many revelations.

Um you missed it and i threw it to you.

You saying because no one shuns you for not following ancient Ethiopian law (which is ironic because have you heard of the ethopian Jews, they black and follow torah) is why you regard ancient texts that have been tampered with by white men. Makes 0 sense at all.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Um you missed it and i threw it to you.

You saying because no one shuns you for not following ancient Ethiopian law (which is ironic because have you heard of the ethopian Jews, they black and follow torah) is why you regard ancient texts that have been tampered with by white men. Makes 0 sense at all.

I'm saying don't devote your entire life and understanding of the universe to the teachings of a book that has been tampered with. Read from it, learn from it, use the parts that work, but don't follow it. There is nothing holy or divine about the Bible at all.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

I'm saying don't devote your entire life and understanding of the universe to the teachings of a book that has been tampered with. Read from it, learn from it, use the parts that work, but don't follow it. There is nothing holy or divine about the Bible at all.

Do you know what the word holy means? Holy simply means seperate. And yes it is.

The prophecies make it divine. You can't get around them. This what makes this book holy/seperate from others. Whatever book you reading about dont have prophecies in it.